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Submitted by kaos-king (antius777) (View user info) at 2007-05-01 17:20:07 EDT
Inspired by Chaos Jester's post... http://www.ubersite.com/m/101225
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As Generation X moves kicking & screaming into its late 20's and early 30's, we take with us some of the subcultures we helped to create or define. The youth behind us have taken these divisions and ran with them, making the life styles bolder and even less traditional; and of course, therefore more marketable.
Trends are always going to exist, hip ideas that people follow to fit in somewhere and feel a part of something larger than themselves. Subculture ideals are almost religious in that regard, it gives back to the individual something to feel involved in. They feel as if they can find their uniqueness through a diversity than has been carefully constructed. However, this narrow field of type actually puts limits on the concept of self-actualization, preferring that its members hold up to a certain "standard" in various realms of tastes.
In the book "Food Court Druids, Cherohonkees and Other Creatures Unique to the Republic" by Robert Lanham, the author takes a satirical look at dozens of different subcultures that populate the American landscape. He has quirky names he has given to each 'tribe' and skews them in an anthropological fashion. Without his vast research material at hand, I thought I would simply go over the four main subcultures that I personally come across on a daily basis and my reaction to them.
THE GOTH - A trend that started back in the early 1980's, it was originally an attempt to recall a stylized romance of centuries prior. Based upon the interpretation of past and new literature, a kind of darkness crept into the group, the concepts of Love & Death intertwined. Brooding and miserable, Goths infiltrated all the major areas effecting trend including fashion and music, coming back around to further have a new impact on literature. As years have past, the Goth Movement has splintered off into various factions, from the original romanticized to a more industrial neophyte or to a pagan-based metal oxymoron.
I can see why the Goth scene can have its attraction to many youth and young adults. There is certainly a sense of 'community' among them, a quickly recognizably quality that they share. Goth's are bonded in mutual self-perceived pain, the glass always half empty. And while much of their trends I find acceptable, I suppose I've always been just too optimistic to be one. I can't see wallowing in negativity on purpose, let alone surrounding yourself with others that do the same.
THE PUNK - Shouting and throwing fists all the way back from the 1970's, this group began almost simultaneously in London with the "Sex Pistols" and in New York with "The Ramones." Oh, and Iggy Pop was running around there somewhere, too. They were the voices of a disenfranchised underclass, a subculture of youth who didn't like what they were seeing from the parents' actions. Centered around obscenities and the occasional fight, the Punks were both apathetic and anarchists at the same time, depending on the question or what time of day. Liberty 'Hawks spiked high, they've been around around for so long now that the grandkids are making the new music on sellout tours with financial backing by Miller Lite.
The Punks are all about rage, a rebellion that leads back to the old quote "Whadya Got?" It's all about upsetting the Status Quo and questioning authority, something I can get behind. However, the generally uneducated way of going about these things, the methods the Punks would implement, are woefully inadequate. And most of the time they're too busy fighting each other. The movement has been in existence for so long that it's become mainstream hip, last year's Warped Tour the highest grossing concert festival in America. To be honest, most of the elder statesmen of the group are cashing in as well, leaving the last few hold outs to weep outside a boarded up CBGB.
THE EMO - The Sensitive Ones. The bizarre combination of Punk, Goth, Metal and Marketing. The Emo is the latest of the subculture groups to spring up, the bastard hybrid of various others, still trying to find its face. More recognizable for its fashion than its music (which is often hard to truly categorize), Emo has its look squarely set. It has a certain style of hair, makeup and clothing; often these items indistinguishable between male and female practitioners. Already the group has begun to split apart and the term "Emo" becoming a dirty word to even those who clearly are of that persuasion.
Their was Emo music over a decade ago. Back then it was good; before it was called Emo. Then marketing reps got a hold of it, Hot Topics filled every mall and pop versions of it blasted on every radio station. In this media driven instant age, the movement never really was one, just a simple instance of a manufactured trend. The Emo subculture in primarily geared towards suburban white kids with disposable income, elements of it saturated into any aspect they desire. There are a few bands that fall into the dreaded Emo category that I don't mind, but god forbid I want a tee shirt with their logo on it; I can only find them in waif sizes.
THE HIPPIE - The aging Baby-Boomers left one lasting impression upon their kids and grandkids, and that was one of fashion and music. A throwback to the late 1960's, the "New" Hippies have been rejuvenated in the last decade with the digital age and such bands as Dave Matthews and Phish. Less human rights concerned except for an occasional war rally, this breed are more Eco-Centric; save the planet and eat Vegan. Knocking a hacky sack around while passing a joint, they wear the same colorful clothing as their ancestors and debate endlessly about political affairs that don't actually effect them. Many have taken to such earth-based faiths as Wicca and wear their hair in dreadlocks, the rich scent of patchulli surrounding them.
They mean well, they really do. However, the New Hippies have all the world provided to them and it's easy to be outraged when scrolling the internet for global atrocities. Many of these group get the urge to belong to this subculture through a sense of heritage; founded or not. And it's a much simpler time for them now when there's no draft or riots and the parents' credit card is paying for the loft apartment. Unfortunately, even with the spirit of that bygone era, this group lacks the struggle. And personally, I love read meat. And I like to take showers.
SO... I suppose I understand these groups a bit, their needs and their followers. I, myself, have never wanted to be defined like that, never wanted to be so easily placed into a category. I listen to all types of music, read all types of literature, wear clothing that I find comfortable and suitable for all occasions. My ears have been pierced for a decade and the eyebrow ring I got after I left a job I held for years, stuck in a tie. Hell, I only shave my head because my hair is so thick it pisses me off to mess with it. The closest I ever got to a subculture was when I was in High School back in the mid 1990's and wore flannel, but even then, I couldn't really stand Nirvana.
I'll continue to listen to Peter Gabriel as I edit this and tonight I'll throw on a pair of jeans with a tee shirt and my black suit jacket over top if it's cold. I'll go to my favorite bar that serves all these types on a regular basis and hear The Clash, followed by Bloc Party then Faith No More, rounded out by Johnny Cash. I'll sit back with some friends and watch as the Goths stroll past a table of Punks who are making fun of the Emos buying some pot off the Hippies...
... and everything will be just fine.
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Submitted by Crystle (user info) at 2007-05-04 16:30:44 EDT (#)
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shameless self promotion below
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-04 13:30:05 EDT (#)
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Blah, Blah, Blah...
Come read my new post.
There's a picture of a monkey in it!!!
http://www.ubersite.com/m/101399
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I firmly believe you are a talented and unique person. Not just on this site, but in life where the stakes are higher and STD's are frighteningly real.
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Submitted by pandora (user info) at 2007-05-03 11:31:47 EDT (#)
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Do they still call people in their 20's "Generation X"? Is there one "Generation X", or is everyone who goes through this period considered "Generation X"? They were using this term a lot in the 80's to describe the children of baby-boomers. The first usage of it that I know of was in the 60's; it was the title of a book about the Mod subculture.
Submitted by GnarlsBarkley (user info) at 2007-05-03 00:10:14 EDT (#)
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auto +2 fellow art lover.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2007-05-02 16:30:26 EDT (#)
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These are all subcultures of the culture "people indo wants to kick in the throat"
Submitted by Crystle (user info) at 2007-05-02 16:17:20 EDT (#)
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mmmmmmmmmmmm caramel.............
Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2007-05-02 08:55:25 EDT (#)
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Submitted by MANICMOTHER (user info) at 2007-05-01 23:54:34 EDT (#)
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30 YEAR OLDS OF THE WORLD UNITE!!!!!
and do stuff or something.
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I concur. Hot butter and caramel orgy at your place, then?
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2007-05-02 08:02:33 EDT (#)
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You left out two of the biggest GenX subcategories: The Grunger and The Metrosexual. The Grungers are on the endangered species list, and most metro's are now coming out of the closet.
Submitted by ChaosJester (user info) at 2007-05-02 05:42:10 EDT (#)
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Ah, Kaos-King, you never cease to be a breath of fresh air.
You, Drogo and Fey are definately my favorite three Uber-cats (but HurtByTheSun is getting up there and, despite all the heat, Kurfsec has potential if she would start posting stuff with actual content)
I'd like to say that I agree whole-heartedly with just about everything on the post/reviews. I, myself, chose to mingle with the Goths because I just feel at home with all the beautifully ugly people and I've always had a blast hangin' around them. Now, that being said, I definately understand how so many people see the goth sub-culture as something for immature Emo-fucktards with too much time/money on their hands, 'cause there sure a lot of examples to choose from. Still, I've met some really, really interesting people in those dark niches where the eldritch-lovers gather and those places just feel so much safer and closer than all the other scenes.
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But, then again, perhaps that's just me.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2007-05-02 04:46:53 EDT (#)
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im a hipster
Submitted by Merlina (user info) at 2007-05-02 04:36:42 EDT (#)
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I'm safely in the Hippy category.
Submitted by MANICMOTHER (user info) at 2007-05-01 23:54:34 EDT (#)
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30 YEAR OLDS OF THE WORLD UNITE!!!!!
and do stuff or something.
Submitted by Crystle (user info) at 2007-05-01 22:48:49 EDT (#)
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the characters are arch-types of cliches found running rampant 'round (oh crap, not another R!) the country (Phew...that was close, could have been region. GRRRRRR)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-01 20:29:59 EDT (#)
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tv shows are clichés?
wtf? does it really work that way in ur country?
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-01 22:40:34 EDT (#)
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i think we should all get back to wearing renaissance wigs and uniforms.
that way no more hair care (and receding) and everybody would look like those 80's bands.
(and i wouldn't feel bad about cross dressing)
Submitted by Sacrilicious (user info) at 2007-05-01 22:13:21 EDT (#)
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Yeah what about us hipsters? We're so ..hip.
Submitted by Sacrilicious (user info) at 2007-05-01 22:11:54 EDT (#)
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Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:40:56 EDT (#)
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I was all dressed in black, she was all dressed up in black.
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Everything was fine down here what you call it here call it what you will here way down in this subbacultcha
Submitted by Bohme (user info) at 2007-05-01 21:59:05 EDT (#)
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Like I haven't seen this a million billion times, everywhere.
Submitted by UTOCKIN2ME (user info) at 2007-05-01 21:30:34 EDT (#)
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I like to strike up conversations with Emos
and then as soon as they start to whine and become too emotional.....
smack 'em across the yap with the back of my hand.
But there is a slight problem.....
Some of them come back looking for me and they say
"that was good,master,please smack my yap again!"
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-01 20:29:59 EDT (#)
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tv shows are clichés?
wtf? does it really work that way in ur country?
Submitted by Crystle (user info) at 2007-05-01 19:39:40 EDT (#)
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you'd HOPE they'd leave it behind. Instead there seems to be a movement to jumping into new cliche's
Sex and the City, par example. or King of the Hill.
Submitted by Lisa (user info) at 2007-05-01 19:37:12 EDT (#)
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Actually, it's pretty bad in Ohio. There are a bunch of immature 20-somethings mentally stuck in high school and college. But yeah, I'd guess that most relatively normal people leave their cliques behind when they abandon high school for grown-up land.
Submitted by Crystle (user info) at 2007-05-01 19:36:55 EDT (#)
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:-(
*lurk, lurk*
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-01 19:22:24 EDT (#)
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Oh, BTW Lisa...
I'm seriously not trying to stir shit, but I recall you did a post on that main chick from The PussyCat Dolls once.
My last post concerned the reality show based around the group. http://www.ubersite.com/m/101194
I really am curious about your take on it...
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-01 19:18:14 EDT (#)
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Crystle - - Oohhh, good luck on all that hon!
Pen Name - - Perhaps at one time they were "Counter," but as Juls so perfectly put, now they're so marketed that they're more simply "Sub." You raise an interesting point, however! Is there anything that is TRULY counterculture anymore???
Lisa - - Do you really think so? I see a lot of different types of people that fall into these groups here around the University and up in Cleveland. Granted, I think most people "grow out of it," but I believe it last longer for many past High School.
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2007-05-01 19:11:40 EDT (#)
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IM THE JUGGERNAUT, BITCH
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-05-01 19:05:21 EDT (#)
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Yes, Warped looks better this year but The Buzzcocks - despite being old farts - were worth the price of admission last year.
...because I got free tickets...but my analogy stands.
Submitted by Lisa (user info) at 2007-05-01 19:03:41 EDT (#)
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Most people leave this stuff behind after high school.
Submitted by Sinistral (user info) at 2007-05-01 19:02:42 EDT (#)
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Submitted by pen_name (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:51:23 EDT (#)
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i'm the jock
i once taped a kid's butt cheeks together. I still regret it.
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a) Auto +2 BC reference.
b) I have to read this book. Is it difficult to find?
c) Warped Tour last year was the most watered down power pop event I have ever seen. Despite the likes of NOFX, The Casualties, Joan Jett, and The Buzzcocks, bands like Thursday, Red Jumpsuit Apparatus, and AFI more than crushed the good vibe. This year looks to be much, much better with bands like Bad Religion and Flogging Molly.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:58:12 EDT (#)
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Submitted by darko (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:30:55 EDT (#)
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Personally, I like to shift in and out of subcultures depending on whichever one gives me the best chance to get laid at the moment.
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HAHA!!! Right on! And seriously, I prefer girls from ANY of the 4 above mentioned subcultures than some prissy, high maintainence princess. And I totally don't dig jock girls. Women just aren't attractive in a football jersey.
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but men are
Submitted by pen_name (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:56:50 EDT (#)
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no jocks huh? well if you're gonna get anal, kk, aren't the majority of those categories countercultures, not subcultures?
Submitted by ih8u2man (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:54:02 EDT (#)
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Pure Kaos.
Submitted by Crystle (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:52:12 EDT (#)
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on a diff. subject, since I'm camping... I put an offer on a place today.
Submitted by Crystle (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:51:41 EDT (#)
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oooh.. Shlongy, can't do NSFW right now. :-/
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:41:42 EDT (#)
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Submitted by darko (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:30:55 EDT (#)
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Personally, I like to shift in and out of subcultures depending on whichever one gives me the best chance to get laid at the moment.
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HAHA!!! Right on! And seriously, I prefer girls from ANY of the 4 above mentioned subcultures than some prissy, high maintainence princess. And I totally don't dig jock girls. Women just aren't attractive in a football jersey.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:39:07 EDT (#)
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http://www.ubersite.com/m/101244
Ya'll may need to swing on by...
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:37:32 EDT (#)
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Juls - - You freakin' rule all over my face.
I pretty much agree with what you're saying, at least from a contemporary view point. When you can buy a "Nevermind The Bullocks" plastic lunchbox or a wunzzie for your infant with The Ramones logo on it, there's an issue that needs addressed. Like I said, Warped Tour was the highest selling concert festival last summer. WTF? But I think it's because a lot of those Punks, Goths and Hippies have growm up and "sold-out" and are now trying to market a lifestyle to their kids. And Emo? It was manufactured from the beginning.
Submitted by BongZilla (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:37:18 EDT (#)
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In the words of Butters: "I'd rather be a crying, whiny, pussy then a faggy goth kid."
-BongZilaa
Submitted by Crystle (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:33:07 EDT (#)
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oh wait. don't want to be guilty of ommission here...the OTHER reason I'm not on SFTNPCD - I'm old *SOB*
Submitted by Crystle (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:31:13 EDT (#)
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Whoa... wait.. That's all logical and crap.
As for being noticed by people other than close friends and family... I DO, to some extent. I'm still looking for a good partner, and I need more friends. However, I don't need to be loved by the world at large (Or lusted after... which is why I didn't audition for The Search For the Next PussyCat Doll. That and I'm not a whore.)
and as for the smaller city, it's easy. You're HAWT.. The wimmenz want you, the menz want you.
Wait. The Menz want to BE you. That's how is should be.
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:23:56 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Crystle (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:16:30 EDT (#)
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*I* want to be special... that's for sure.
Who doesn't?
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everybody. the problem is chosing who you want to be special to.
outside of your friends and family, there's no reason to want to be noticed. speaking of which, since i moved to a smaller city, what's wrong with people staring and inquiring who i am in public places...it,s disturbing.
Submitted by darko (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:30:55 EDT (#)
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Personally, I like to shift in and out of subcultures depending on whichever one gives me the best chance to get laid at the moment.
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:29:00 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:23:56 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Crystle (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:16:30 EDT (#)
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*I* want to be special... that's for sure.
Who doesn't?
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everybody. the problem is chosing who you want to be special to.
outside of your friends and family, there's no reason to want to be noticed.
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Yes, but that's the mature adult Caul speaking. Think back to when you were 17... you wanted EVERYONE to notice you then.
That's what these subcultures provide, I think. A sense of unity through diversity.
I dunno...
Submitted by JulsInsane (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:28:52 EDT (#)
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Well written, my only issue with it is by analyzing it in this much depth (and I know many a book other than the one you referenced has been written about these "subcultures") you actually give some validity of the whole bullshit notion that they are in fact a subculture. Its a fashion statement driven by a common musical bond. Punk wasn't a social movement, the ideas of a working class uprising sung about in songs by The Clash never occured, the anarchist ideals of The Exploited were a great drinking anthem for mayhem but not a direct reflection of any actual socio-political movement of the time. Malcolm McLaren was selling a look and a aestethic much like the Back Street Boys or Britney Spears. Music spawned by a impovrished and undereducated working class in Europe did little more than to provide a theme song for a new fashion trend replacing the Teddy Boys and Mods, who were in direct opposition to the deconstructed style, fashion and music of the Punk aesthetic.
Emo is no different, a sirens song for a disenfranchised middle class youth? Hardly, as they themselves have now become part of this new franchising technique, walking billboards for Diesel, Gap, and Urban Outfitters. Selling out? Hard to sell out when everyone bought in from the begining.
I could continue to pontificate on your post about this and in reality it isn't fair as its in no way a useful or fair critique of your writing. I just find the whole idea that these factions of fashion concious twats could be considered any more than marketing. Everytime I see a teenager wanting to look different so they can look just like thier friends it makes me want to punch a baby. Whats worse is when you see people in thier 20s and 30s doing it, that to me is just proof that we should be forcing eugenics, rather than pissing in the gene pool (thank you Henry Rollins). Again, nicely writen post and I am definately not attacking you KK I just really get aggrivated by this topic. So much so I spell worse than usual.
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:25:43 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:20:31 EDT (#)
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Yeah, true, but it meant more back in '78 than it does today.
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I totally agree, Shlongy.
I think it was Mike Ness on Social Distortion's "Live At The Roxy" CD who went on a rant about that between songs.
How you can get pierced at a boutique in the mall while picking up the Krazy Kolor for your hair.
Submitted by The_taste_of_Monkeys (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:24:31 EDT (#)
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Hurry up and make your "comeback" Shlongy! My mum says its my bedtime soon!
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:24:30 EDT (#)
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Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:20:10 EDT (#)
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Ummm... did you even read the post?
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a few sentences...:-P
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:23:56 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Crystle (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:16:30 EDT (#)
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*I* want to be special... that's for sure.
Who doesn't?
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everybody. the problem is chosing who you want to be special to.
outside of your friends and family, there's no reason to want to be noticed. speaking of which, since i moved to a smaller city, what's wrong with people staring and inquiring who i am in public places...it,s disturbing.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:23:14 EDT (#)
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Now that I read a few paragraphs of this - because I saw the words "The Clash" - this wasn't as bad as I expected.
But the only camwhores I enjoy are my own.
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:21:55 EDT (#)
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TTOM - - I believe that's the back of a cushioned barstool I'm resting upon in a drunken stupor...
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:20:31 EDT (#)
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Yeah, true, but it meant more back in '78 than it does today.
And...I didn't notice that you were sneering. Sorry.
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:20:10 EDT (#)
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Caul - - I never said anything WAS wrong with these groups.
Hell, I said what were the drawing factors to each of them.
I simply pointed out different reasons why I was attracted but never truly "fit" into any of the category.
Ummm... did you even read the post?
Submitted by The_taste_of_Monkeys (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:18:54 EDT (#)
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Is that the black basalt of the bar in HELL you're leaning on?
Submitted by Crystle (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:18:17 EDT (#)
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Eh - I'm processing batch files, bored, and looking for a good camp ground to chat on.
Here it is!
Also - Caul, what's wrong with wanting to be special?
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:16:48 EDT (#)
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Crystle - - Your lurking makes me aroused...
OTron - - Yeah, the popped-collar Frat Rats are a bit of a cliched lil' group, but I don't know if they would be considered a subculture. While their fashion is distinct, their media isn't as so well defined nor are they looked upon as "underground."
Submitted by Crystle (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:16:30 EDT (#)
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*I* want to be special... that's for sure.
Who doesn't?
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:13:56 EDT (#)
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people who say they are not part of a group that wants to be special usually want to be special.
"I'M SO DIFFERENT, I AM NOT PART OF THESE GENRES! WHAT POSEURS! PAH!"
when will not giving a shit what others do become fashionable? because frankly all this "sub-culture/i am not part of a sub-culture" talk is like being stuck in 10th grade for eternity.
who cares
Submitted by Crystle (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:11:43 EDT (#)
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*lurk, lurk*
Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:10:36 EDT (#)
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Needs more "The Hipster."
Oh, and "The Popped-Collar Douche Dudes."
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:08:52 EDT (#)
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Scourge!!! Don't tease me like that!!!
**swoons**
Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:03:34 EDT (#)
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Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:00:16 EDT (#)
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Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:55:38 EDT (#)
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i don't remember asking for a book report...
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I just referenced the book as piece of interest. I read it almost a year ago and I can't even find the damn thing now.
I couldn't even remember the title, just that the cover was neon green. I had to call my brother at the library to get the author's name.
These are all my own takes on these groups.
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Oh, okay.
Let's make out.
Submitted by The_taste_of_Monkeys (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:01:29 EDT (#)
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Nerd-Core is such a great term.
I am a socially aware dork. I am an ALPHA-NERD!
Submitted by Crystle (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:01:27 EDT (#)
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that particular phrase started here... http://www.ubersite.com/m/99196
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-01 18:00:16 EDT (#)
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Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:55:38 EDT (#)
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i don't remember asking for a book report...
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I just referenced the book as piece of interest. I read it almost a year ago and I can't even find the damn thing now.
I couldn't even remember the title, just that the cover was neon green. I had to call my brother at the library to get the author's name.
These are all my own takes on these groups.
Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:57:52 EDT (#)
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Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:49:58 EDT (#)
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Excellent Idea!!! My dad is still really pissed we can't give him the viking funeral he wants.
Set afloat on the Ohio River, covered in pitch, while his 5 sons shoot flaming arrows at his body.
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Vikings were set afloat on the Ohio River?
Not a problem though. Just set him afloat on the Cuyahoga River. Nobody'd notice one more fire on the Cuyahoga.
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:57:40 EDT (#)
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Dork or "Nerd-core" is quickly developing into an actual subculture.
This is simply because those who used to be the geeks are now in positions of power to influence.
Submitted by Crystle (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:55:47 EDT (#)
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KK - it's a reference to a previous ALTERcation. actually several
Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:55:38 EDT (#)
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i don't remember asking for a book report...
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:55:30 EDT (#)
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See, is "Jock" really a subculture???
First, it's not really defined by trends such as fashion or media.
Second, it's much more widely accepted.
Hmmm...
Submitted by lungfish (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:54:56 EDT (#)
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What about Scottish hippie-cowboys?
Submitted by The_taste_of_Monkeys (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:54:28 EDT (#)
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Im none of these. I AM DORK, HEAR ME ROAR!
Submitted by pen_name (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:51:23 EDT (#)
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i'm the jock
i once taped a kid's butt cheeks together. I still regret it.
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:49:58 EDT (#)
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Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:47:44 EDT (#)
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Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:41:26 EDT (#)
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Oh, and I'll stop smoking when I'm dead....
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Why stop then? There's always cremation.
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Excellent Idea!!! My dad is still really pissed we can't give him the viking funeral he wants.
Set afloat on the Ohio River, covered in pitch, while his 5 sons shoot flaming arrows at his body.
Submitted by TheUniter (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:49:15 EDT (#)
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Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:49:04 EDT (#)
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No you're not, KK.
CrystAl is an anfry, jelous bitches.
That's all you need to know.
;)
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:47:54 EDT (#)
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Obviously I'm missing something here...
Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:47:44 EDT (#)
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Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:41:26 EDT (#)
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Oh, and I'll stop smoking when I'm dead....
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Why stop then? There's always cremation.
Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:46:54 EDT (#)
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LOLZ @ CrystAl
BTW, it TAKES an anfry, jelous bitches to SPOT an anfry, jelous bitches
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:46:47 EDT (#)
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WTF Crystle???
Submitted by Crystle (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:45:52 EDT (#)
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GRRRR..
biCTH.....BICTH I say!!!
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:45:28 EDT (#)
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Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:43:02 EDT (#)
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Why do you have a string of anal beads around your neck??
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For when you're "Jenny" instead of "Jonny"...
Submitted by Crystle (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:44:58 EDT (#)
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Oh, I'll classify you all right, Forensic...
You're an anfry jelous bitch is what you are...
Submitted by snag (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:43:58 EDT (#)
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Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:43:02 EDT (#)
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Why do you have a string of anal beads around your neck??
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lol
Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:43:40 EDT (#)
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I defy classification.
So there.
*raspberry*
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:43:02 EDT (#)
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Why do you have a string of anal beads around your neck??
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:41:26 EDT (#)
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Oh, and I'll stop smoking when I'm dead....
Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:40:56 EDT (#)
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I was all dressed in black, she was all dressed up in black.
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:40:32 EDT (#)
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McCallum - - You shut up, you!!! Leave my stupid metal necklace that everyone makes fun of outta this. **weep**
St. Jimmy - - I think in many ways you're right; at least anymore this is the case. Oh, we have the "Thuggerz" here at Kent, but they're mostly rich, suburban white boys.
Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:36:33 EDT (#)
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Is there really any actual culture here. I get the feeling that all these groups today are just marketing strategies. These people come together based on appearance rather than a common belief structure. Course, I don't think "Weeeep. Life is pain. Life is death. Why won't my parents raise my allowence." constitutes a belief system.
Same holds for the so-called Hippoty-Hop Negro/Thug "culture". Don't think there's any real "culture" there, just a "look". Course I suppose you probably don't see too many of those around KSU.
Hold on, you're not smoking in your camwhore?! Have you quit? If so, I'm selling my Nabisco stock.
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:36:32 EDT (#)
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"I'll sit back with some friends and watch as the Goths stroll past a table of Punks who are making fun of the Emos buying some pot off the Hippies... "
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So... it's high school all over again.
PS -
Did you have to take off your shirt to get those beads?
Submitted by Crystle (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:36:23 EDT (#)
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rawr. That's about the most frustrating thing to hear.
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:35:04 EDT (#)
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Crystle - - Everyone perceives you as a lovely person.
Darko - - It was the first in a series of many, many photos... me getting progressly more drunk.
Submitted by darko (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:34:06 EDT (#)
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and The Hippie needed more Ted Leo and the Pharmacists
Submitted by littledan (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:33:40 EDT (#)
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Good points. I enjoyed this. I have no discernable fashion sense, and it is certainly not tied to the music I listen to. One day I will have a Slayer shirt and Carhartts on, while listening to SRV. The next day I may be in jeans and a polo shirt, listening to Pelican or The Tragically Hip. It's hard to "classify" me, though I'm not rebelling against anything. If you need to, I'm an apathetic guitar playing preppy metal kid who wishes he could play the blues like old black men.
Submitted by darko (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:32:27 EDT (#)
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Brian_At_Bar2 would have been a much better choice.
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:31:13 EDT (#)
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Shlongy, I can just picture you at 18 with a 'hawk, sneering at the establishment.
Submitted by Crystle (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:30:52 EDT (#)
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I'm a people watcher too...think I always will be. I've never really associated myself with any particular group either.. and as a somewhat introspective people watcher, my avid curiousity drives me to ask what other think or how they perceive me.
I'm also always looking to better myself, and I've always combined the two...And at the same time, I always feel that I have no idea how people see me.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:28:21 EDT (#)
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Peter Gabriel?
Ugh.
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:27:03 EDT (#)
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Yeah Crystle, this stuff fascinates me.
Jaysis, I smoked an entire pack of cigarettes while working on that...
Submitted by Wildman (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:26:45 EDT (#)
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A solid and well deserved: meh
Submitted by Crystle (user info) at 2007-05-01 17:24:32 EDT (#)
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hehehehe... I had a feeling this was coming