SPT- How much is your mom worth? (872 hits)
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Submitted by St_Jimmy (View user info) at 2007-05-03 14:04:52 EDT
According to Salary.com, she's worth around $138,095
http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/CollegeAndFamily/RaiseKids/ThePriceOfAMom.aspx?GT1=10019
What's a mom worth?
According to one new report, $138,095 a year.
That's the figure in a report by Salary.com, which calculates the wages that would have been paid a stay-at-home mom in 2007 if she were compensated for all the elements of her "job." That total is up 3% from 2006's salary of $134,121.
Moms who have jobs outside the house would earn another $85,939 for their mothering work, beyond what they bring home in existing salary.
The job descriptions that Salary.com used to determine a mom's salary includes 10 jobs that moms do on an average day: housekeeper, day care center teacher, cook, computer operator, laundry machine operator, janitor, facilities manager, van driver, CEO and psychologist.
In calculating a mom's wages, Salary.com looked at the "overtime" that both working and stay-at-home moms put in each week.
"Mom works multiple jobs and rarely gets a break from the action, working an average of 52 hours of overtime," said Bill Coleman, senior vice president at Salary.com, in a statement.
According to the Salary.com survey, stay-at-home moms work a 92-hour week, with more than half the workweek spent in overtime.
Working moms, meanwhile, logged more than nine hours of "overtime," with an average 49-hour "mom" work week -- on top of their full-time paying jobs.
For the Salary.com survey, more than 40,000 moms quantified their hours per job description; Salary.com benchmarked the median salaries for each job to the national median salary for each position as reported by employers.
The final salary was calculated by weighting the salaries and hours worked in each role.
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$138,095?!? You have got to be fuckin' kidding me. They claim a mom is a: "housekeeper, day care center teacher, cook, computer operator, laundry machine operator, janitor, facilities manager, van driver, CEO and psychologist"
Housekeeper: Sure, stay at home moms clean the house. Yes and? Big fuckin' deal. The house needs cleaned one way or the other. You're saying the dude who's working 40+ a week ought to come home and do it?
Day care: I'll give you that one, although that simply a question of economics. If the woman is not capable of making, after taxes, significantly more than the cost of childcare, which is sizable, then it only makes sense for her to stay home with the kids.
Cook: Bullshit. Real cooks have some type of formal training. This is only chef salary you can apply to a mom is that of a formally untrained cook (ie, McDonald's burger flipper).
Computer operator: What the fuck is this? Who doesn't operate a computer? You want special credit for that.
Laundry machine operator: Yep, laundry also has to get done too. You want a medal for doing the wash? This is pretty much the same as housekeeping.
Janitor: I used to work as a janitor and fail to see how that's any different than housekeeping.
Facilities manager: I'm honestly not sure what this means. Keep an eye out so your house doesn't fall/burn down. Again, you want credit for that?
Van driver: Come on! Yeah, sometimes you have to drive places. That's life. I'm not giving anyone points for driving.
CEO: Bullshit. CEO's have formal training, education, and often decades of experience in their industry. Plus, I'm not sure what part of being a mom equates to being a CEO. Making decisions? Everybody has to make decisions, get over it.
Psychologist: Bullshit. Psychologists also go through a great deal of formal education and training that's a bit more extensive than dealing with screaming children.
But you should feel bad. Salary.com has proven that stay at home moms do $138,095 worth of work a year for free. Yep, stay at home moms receive no compensation, other than free room, free board, free health/dental/life insurance, free car with free maintenance and gas, free car insurance, and free vacations. I'm sure the list goes on, but I've got shit to do.
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Submitted by oapa (user info) at 2007-05-04 10:23:00 EDT (#)
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thank you for clarifying /exit
Submitted by czwij (user info) at 2007-05-04 10:19:10 EDT (#)
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AWRIGHT ASSHOLE, WHERE DO YOU GET OFF TAKING FOTOWS OF MY WIFE!
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2007-05-04 05:54:08 EDT (#)
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this post was great
my wife is prenant and is going to be staying at home
JUST THINK, I WILL BE SAVING 138,000 IN COSTS
Submitted by Stagger_Lee (user info) at 2007-05-04 04:38:54 EDT (#)
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You are a poor, whipped man, Still Life.
Submitted by FartSmeller (user info) at 2007-05-03 22:02:52 EDT (#)
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Meh, what a fucking bullshit feel-good "empowering women" crock of shit. Yeah, wrangling kids may be annoying, but the real money should go to the teachers that put up with her screaming, undisciplined fucking rugrats that she won't spank, but feels fine dropping off for eight hours a day to be in someone else's hair while she compulsively spends all that money her husband works for at TJ Maxx buying crap she doesn't need to fill up the house she didn't pay for. Every time I hear some twat complaining about how hard her "job" is, I think to myself, why don't we change places? You can sit at my soul-sucking fucking job for eight hours a day and gring your brain into dust while I drive a minivan around, dust the house, and make sure I'm home to watch Oprah Fucking Winfrey every day at 4 and then get all huffy when someone treats my "job" of being a housewife like it's bullshit like I'm curing fucking dick cancer on a daily basis.
Submitted by Circe (user info) at 2007-05-03 20:58:28 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Coyote (user info) at 2007-05-03 14:29:55 EDT (#)
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The only possible interpretation of this is that if you're a working mother earning less than $138,000 a year, you're actually costing your family money.
Way to be selfish, cunt.
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Ahahahahahhahahahaha
As a stay-at-home mum, I think this article is bullshit. I nap for 8 hours a day and the kids get their own dinner by standing on each other's shoulders and raiding the pantry. My husband eats at his girlfriend's house. We're all very happy.
Submitted by TheUniter (user info) at 2007-05-03 20:50:56 EDT (#)
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-05-03 20:30:36 EDT (#)
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Submitted by experima (user info) at 2007-05-03 19:47:38 EDT (#)
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-03 14:43:01 PDT (#)
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"so unless you have 8 children and that one of them is mentally handicapp, shove that Super-Woman myth up your ass and you better stop bitching when your man gets home cuz you know real well you just spent the last hour watching Oprah and masturbating in your bath."
Submitted by experima (user info) at 2007-05-03 19:40:03 EDT (#)
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Submitted by i_can_get_you_a_toe (user info) at 2007-05-03 18:20:27 EDT (#)
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I was watching something last night that said that women here (NZ) make up 46% of the workforce. And they raise babies.
That really had nothing to do with this post.
Submitted by Still-Life (user info) at 2007-05-03 17:50:28 EDT (#)
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You see, I don't understand this either. Why? because I had to do just as much (if not more) around the house as my mother did. And she got to complain about it.
Landscaping
Tree/Stump Removal (plus cut, split, stack all the wood? three fucking cords usually.)
Driver
Cook (Yes, I cook. I am not a chef, but I cook)
Plumber
Electrician
Computer Technician/Troubleshooter/ohmygodwhyisitonfire guy
Animal Caretaker (she brings them home, I get to deal with them)
etc.
Not to mention other misc. handyman shit.
On top of working full time as a residential painter, a student (night classes college) and aspiring musician on my own time.
So is it really a right to bitch? By making the few meals she does every week, cleaning the little bit she does every week, doing the little bit she does every week she is automatically entitled to bitch bitch bitch bitch bitch 24/7 about everything?
Sorry, I just got home from huffing around 40ft ladders all day. I'm about to go fix your fucking car so you can drive around and go find something else to bitch about when you get back. And then when I'm done with that I'd really like to practice guitar, but you'll be too busy bitching about something else on the phone with your friends so you have to tell me to turn it the fuck down.
Fucking ridiculous.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-03 17:46:23 EDT (#)
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Submitted by strwbryfanatic (user info) at 2007-05-03 15:36:41 EDT (#)
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I don't think parents (note: mom OR dad) that stay home with children get enough credit. Not even close. Not even at all.
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I think people most stop viewing staying at home like loser choice. If you want something good for your kids, then do it. But let's not exaggarate, staying at home beats sitting in a fucking cubicle all day and shoveling clouds in your mind.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-03 17:43:01 EDT (#)
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that article is such bullshit.
staying at home is the easiest thing ever.
for the whole summer and fall last year, i was getting full pay to stay at home while they were trying to find me a contract. it was fun but after a whole month of travelling and laying on the beach and another of going out and another of playing CS like a retarded high school kid, i decided to go help out my gf for a couple of months. she has a kid and she was starting her company.
i had time to wake up before them, cook a huge fucking breakfast, do the dishes, drive her to work, take the kid to school, do groceries for the day, clean up, cook lunch, pick her up for lunch, driver her to work again, do laundry, clean up again, start preparing dinner, go get the kid at school, pick her up at work, finish diner, do the dishes, i'd take care of the kid and often babysit her associate's kid as well when they worked at night.
now when you read this, you might think WHOA! WHAT A BUSY DAY! and that's what women at home want you to believe but the fact is, IT'S NOT! how come did I have time to watch TV, go back to sleep, go work out for two hours and was usually bored out of my mind?
because all those tasks might look like a lot but they generally take less than 5 minutes. my mom had 4 kids to take care of, the house was super clean, the meals cooked, the laundry perfectly folded...yet she had time to lay around the couches and take a nap.
so unless you have 8 children and that one of them is mentally handicapp, shove that Super-Woman myth up your ass and you better stop bitching when your man gets home cuz you know real well you just spent the last hour watching Oprah and masturbating in your bath.
Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2007-05-03 17:21:43 EDT (#)
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Submitted by camarilla (user info) at 2007-05-03 16:55:07 EDT (#)
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As a stay at home mom, I think those figures are rather inflated, and I know I certainly don't clean or do laundry like a professional. However, professionals are also not trying to do those things while someone is clinging to their leg or throwing their lunch across the room. Or at least I would hope not.
That said, I think the thing to remember here is that mother's day is in a week and a half. The timing of the article seems to be another ploy to remind America that it is about consumer goods and not celebrating the nurturing mother.
Yes, it's our 'job' to nurture, to do the things we do, but that doesn't mean we don't appriciate hearing 'thank you' once in awhile. Just like professionals like a pat on the back or a bonus for a job well done, so do we. A pat on the back and a few hundred dollars worth of diamond jewelry are completely different though.
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I agree with you and Ms. berry. It's all about equality. Everyone should pitch in an help out the household. It just bugs me when entities like MSNBC and such make up little "articles" making it seem like housewives do ALL the work. It's equal, or at least it should be.
The housewife is no more "heroic" than they guy who works all week paying for the house. In my opinion anyway.
Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2007-05-03 17:16:41 EDT (#)
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Angry mom not as eloquent as camarilla below.
Submitted by The_Yellow_Dart (user info) at 2007-05-03 16:56:53 EDT (#)
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Submitted by camarilla (user info) at 2007-05-03 16:55:07 EDT (#)
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As a stay at home mom, I think those figures are rather inflated, and I know I certainly don't clean or do laundry like a professional. However, professionals are also not trying to do those things while someone is clinging to their leg or throwing their lunch across the room. Or at least I would hope not.
That said, I think the thing to remember here is that mother's day is in a week and a half. The timing of the article seems to be another ploy to remind America that it is about consumer goods and not celebrating the nurturing mother.
Yes, it's our 'job' to nurture, to do the things we do, but that doesn't mean we don't appriciate hearing 'thank you' once in awhile. Just like professionals like a pat on the back or a bonus for a job well done, so do we. A pat on the back and a few hundred dollars worth of diamond jewelry are completely different though.
Submitted by strwbryfanatic (user info) at 2007-05-03 16:04:09 EDT (#)
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Might I also note that if you are dating/married to a woman who sees only the "traditional gender roles," then the next time she bitches about wanting a raise at work (if she works), why don't you give her a little lecture on equality. These kind of women bother me. You can't mow the lawn/change a lightbulb/change your tire? You expect your man to do it? You only want equal pay because that benefits YOU. Take the whole package or take nothing.
Women with dependency issues in general are embarassing to the whole population. It's not his responsibility to be the sole provider of "everything" in your life.
Submitted by strwbryfanatic (user info) at 2007-05-03 16:02:45 EDT (#)
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Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2007-05-03 15:49:25 EDT (#)
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Submitted by strwbryfanatic (user info) at 2007-05-03 15:36:41 EDT (#)
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Since when is it not the husband's duty to help with the children/house/cleaning if the wife is the one staying at home? Gentlemen: if you and your wife decided that it would be financially wiser for YOU to stay home with the kids (she makes more money), would you not expect the same in return?
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I sort of agree with your sentiment here. I know there's the traditional "men's work" and "women's work" which I personally think is bullshit. Is it the husband's duty to help with the children/house/cleaning? It depends. Does the wife help with the lawn work/home maintainence/car maintainence/home repair/car repair? If she does, then damn right the husband should help her.
I just think it's total bullshit when women complain about their husbands not "helping out around the house" and never give credit to the guys for doing the "men's work" tasks. Help is a two way street.
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Take my relationship, for example. I think that although we are different, his way is just as valid as mine; I don't need to be fixed, nor does he. He treats me with respect and as an equal partner.
Emphasis on the "equal partner."
My current roommate (who is a guy) and I just got some new neighbors, so we decided to go over and say hi. We brought pie. What is the first thing they said? "Oh Rachael...so nice of you to bake a pie for us." I didn't bake the pie, my roommate did. What makes you assume that he's incapable of baking a pie? Similarly, what makes you think I'm unable to mow the lawn/change a lightbulb/change my tire?
Point being: it's all about treating each other as equals. That's all I think anyone's asking for. There's no such thing as "men's work" and "women's work." Especially in the instance of taking care of children or running a household at all, it takes team work to get shit done. I believe that this is partly the reason why most marriages don't work. You spend so much time getting frustrated at your partner for not doing "their" work. Husbands: the next time the lawn needs to be mowed, why don't you *ask* your wife if she wants to do it? You might be surprised that she will get the job done.
Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2007-05-03 15:49:25 EDT (#)
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Submitted by strwbryfanatic (user info) at 2007-05-03 15:36:41 EDT (#)
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Since when is it not the husband's duty to help with the children/house/cleaning if the wife is the one staying at home? Gentlemen: if you and your wife decided that it would be financially wiser for YOU to stay home with the kids (she makes more money), would you not expect the same in return?
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I sort of agree with your sentiment here. I know there's the traditional "men's work" and "women's work" which I personally think is bullshit. Is it the husband's duty to help with the children/house/cleaning? It depends. Does the wife help with the lawn work/home maintainence/car maintainence/home repair/car repair? If she does, then damn right the husband should help her.
I just think it's total bullshit when women complain about their husbands not "helping out around the house" and never give credit to the guys for doing the "men's work" tasks. Help is a two way street.
Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2007-05-03 15:40:54 EDT (#)
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Intelligent woman below.
Submitted by retrospect (user info) at 2007-05-03 15:40:19 EDT (#)
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mines priceless
Submitted by strwbryfanatic (user info) at 2007-05-03 15:36:41 EDT (#)
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Submitted by oapa (user info) at 2007-05-03 14:54:23 EDT (#)
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i disagree with you. all these things by themselves may be worthless, but all together they are not. my wife and i have 2 kids, 1 of those is 3 weeks old. she has a lot on her plate. i try my best to help her out when i can, but i work alot. so i have the upmost respect for what she does, and other mothers do. i dont call any of it bullshit. epecially when she has to do it all by herself due to the hours i work.
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Sometimes families need to make choices. This includes stay-at-home-dads, too. And I'm all for it. Do what you have to do to support your children. I don't agree with kids being left at home alone all the time or being raised by nannies. What's the point of having kids if you never see them and never take care of them? If you can't make time for your family, then maybe you shouldn't have one at all. Yes, it's great if you like kids, but I'm sure that if you're way too busy to raise your own you can borrow a friend's kids for the night.
I'm getting off topic here, but basically...there's a lot of components that go into raising children and having families. It's not easy. Since when is it not the husband's duty to help with the children/house/cleaning if the wife is the one staying at home? Gentlemen: if you and your wife decided that it would be financially wiser for YOU to stay home with the kids (she makes more money), would you not expect the same in return? Yes, you had a long day at work; You can help out, too. I don't know what it is. Is it laziness?
Sometimes I think people are just so selfish and they don't understand these things. And you know what? When you have children, it's about time to end the "it's all about me" act.
Regardless of who stays at home (if that's your choice), the responsibilities that go along with parenting *are* important. I don't think parents (note: mom OR dad) that stay home with children get enough credit. Not even close. Not even at all.
Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2007-05-03 15:23:16 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2007-05-03 14:56:51 EDT (#)
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Submitted by DudeThatsBOSH (user info) at 2007-05-03 14:56:51 EDT (#)
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Holy shit that's freakin' cool! To the second!
Submitted by DudeThatsBOSH (user info) at 2007-05-03 15:19:04 EDT (#)
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Dear Adamdidit2u,
We posted at the exact same time, to the second. I swear on an earlier visit to this post, your comment was directly above oapa's comment, thus making your comment make perfect sense.
However, upon a later visit, my comment switched positions with your comment, leaving what you wrote up for interpretation, because i just slammed my fists on the keyboard and clicked 'Rank'
basically, what i m trying to say is that we broke ubersite, and that is fuckin BOSH
Submitted by beeltea (user info) at 2007-05-03 15:18:37 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2007-05-03 14:34:17 EDT (#)
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I feel sorry for all the poor guys who get to come home from thier jobs all day to a house that probably isn't clean, a meal that probably isn't spectacular, to a house that probably needs something fixed, and to a child that probably needs attention; only to have the wife standing there bitching and complaining about how she doesn't get enough kudos and how hard her job really is because an internet article says so.
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FUCKING YES
Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2007-05-03 15:12:55 EDT (#)
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Submitted by oapa (user info) at 2007-05-03 14:54:23 EDT (#)
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i disagree with you. all these things by themselves may be worthless, but all together they are not. my wife and i have 2 kids, 1 of those is 3 weeks old. she has a lot on her plate. i try my best to help her out when i can, but i work alot. so i have the upmost respect for what she does, and other mothers do. i dont call any of it bullshit. epecially when she has to do it all by herself due to the hours i work.
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Missed the point here boyo. I'm not saying a housewife doesn't do these things. I'm saying that she doesn't do them at the same level that a professional would, thus the 138,095 number is totally invalid.
By the way, I'm sorry that your kids are a lot of work, but you did choose to have them. Choosing to have kids and then complaining about the work they require is like buying an SUV and complaining abuot shitty gas mileage. With one, comes the other.
Submitted by Crystle (user info) at 2007-05-03 15:01:31 EDT (#)
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Look, Marge, I'm sorry I haven't been a better husband, I'm sorry
about the time I tried to make gravy in the bathtub, I'm sorry I used
your wedding dress to wax the car, and I'm sorry -- oh well, let's
just say I'm sorry for the whole marriage up to this point.
-- Homer Simpson
Marge on the Lam
Submitted by DudeThatsBOSH (user info) at 2007-05-03 14:56:51 EDT (#)
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Submitted by oapa (user info) at 2007-05-03 14:54:23 EDT (#)
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i disagree with you. all these things by themselves may be worthless, but all together they are not. my wife and i have 2 kids, 1 of those is 3 weeks old. she has a lot on her plate. i try my best to help her out when i can, but i work alot. so i have the upmost respect for what she does, and other mothers do. i dont call any of it bullshit. epecially when she has to do it all by herself due to the hours i work.
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Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2007-05-03 14:56:51 EDT (#)
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wife reading over shoulder while typing below
Submitted by oapa (user info) at 2007-05-03 14:54:23 EDT (#)
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i disagree with you. all these things by themselves may be worthless, but all together they are not. my wife and i have 2 kids, 1 of those is 3 weeks old. she has a lot on her plate. i try my best to help her out when i can, but i work alot. so i have the upmost respect for what she does, and other mothers do. i dont call any of it bullshit. epecially when she has to do it all by herself due to the hours i work.
Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2007-05-03 14:48:49 EDT (#)
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But abortions wouldn't be tricky.
Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2007-05-03 14:37:34 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2007-05-03 14:27:45 EDT (#)
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I didn't know Baraka was pregnant.
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Best MK2 character. I always kicked ass with him.
Although, with those blades in his arms, impregnation may be difficult.
Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2007-05-03 14:37:21 EDT (#)
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$50/hour in a hotel, or $30 if it's the back seat of a Jeep.
At least that's what I *heard* most moms were worth.
Submitted by ih8u2man (user info) at 2007-05-03 14:36:25 EDT (#)
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Yes, I read this today as well. Funny shit.
Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2007-05-03 14:34:17 EDT (#)
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I feel sorry for all the poor guys who get to come home from thier jobs all day to a house that probably isn't clean, a meal that probably isn't spectacular, to a house that probably needs something fixed, and to a child that probably needs attention; only to have the wife standing there bitching and complaining about how she doesn't get enough kudos and how hard her job really is because an internet article says so.
Besides, there are thousands of couples who hire full time nannies who live with them to take care of the kids, and I'm pretty sure that they don't make anywhere near that. I bet if you asked you'd find that the appropriate salary is lik $35-40k before taxes, and they're not going to complain about how hard their day was when you come home.
Submitted by Coyote (user info) at 2007-05-03 14:29:55 EDT (#)
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The only possible interpretation of this is that if you're a working mother earning less than $138,000 a year, you're actually costing your family money.
Way to be selfish, cunt.
Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2007-05-03 14:27:45 EDT (#)
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I didn't know Baraka was pregnant.
Submitted by DudeThatsBOSH (user info) at 2007-05-03 14:19:45 EDT (#)
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sweet pic
http://www.ubersite.com/m/76663
Submitted by The_Drake (user info) at 2007-05-03 14:07:00 EDT (#)
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Fuck that. As long as you're not a complete fuck-off, a dad does just as much. We just can't breast-feed.