Razor Endorses A Republican Candidate (WTF?!?) (1817 hits)
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Submitted by Razor <Jeremy_21117.at.hotmail.com> (View user info) at 2007-05-04 13:18:58 EDT
Yeah, that's right.
No matter what you think of the current crop of retards occupying the White House and the halls of Congress these days, the Republican Party does have SOME good ideas.
Buried beneath the onslaught of the social agenda and the neocon power grab, there are actually some decent principles that Republicans stand for. I know it sounds crazy, but stay with me here.
The Republicans were once a party of freedom. They believed in small government and personal liberty. They believed in fiscal responsibility and a non-intervention based foreign policy.
But those Republicans are long gone. Or are they?
Congressman Ron Paul is running for the Republican nomination, and I endorse him as a candidate.
Congressman Paul is a true libertarian. He voted against the Patriot Act. He voted against the Iraq War. He is utterly disgusted with the Republican party in its current incarnation, he wants to see it return to the roots of small, responsible government that promotes freedom, not restriction.
I watched Paul on, of all places, Bill Maher. He successfully defended his positions against Maher's normal onslaughts, and made a very solid case for dismantling the CIA.
I watched him again in last night's Republican candidate debate. While all the rest of the candidates were treading carefully and making sure not to stumble, Congressman Paul went on the offensive about the Iraq war, invoking Eisenhower (Korea) and Nixon (Vietnam) as examples of Republican Presidents that got us out of, rather than in to, unnecessary foreign entaglements.
He calls Bush and his cronies out for what they are - complete betrayers of what the Republicans once were.
Here is a quote from his website about privacy:
The biggest threat to your privacy is the government. We must drastically limit the ability of government to collect and store data regarding citizens' personal matters.
We must stop the move toward a national ID card system. All states are preparing to issue new driver's licenses embedded with "standard identifier" data - a national ID. A national ID with new tracking technologies means we're heading into an Orwellian world of no privacy. I voted against the Real ID Act in March of 2005.
To date, the privacy focus has been on identity theft. It was Congress
that created this danger by mandating use of the standard identifier (currently your SSN) in the private sector. For example, banks use SSNs as customer account identifiers because the government requires it.
We must also protect medical privacy. Right now, you're vulnerable. Under so-called "medical privacy protection" rules, insurance companies and other entities have access to your personal medical information.
Financial privacy? Right now depositing $10,000 in your local bank will generate a "suspicious activity report" to the federal government.
And then there's the so-called Patriot Act. As originally proposed,
* Expanded the federal government's ability to use wiretaps without judicial oversight;
* Allowed nationwide search warrants non-specific to any given location, nor subject to any local judicial oversight;
* Made it far easier for the government to monitor private internet usage;
* Authorized "sneak and peek" warrants enabling federal authorities to search a person's home, office, or personal property without that person's knowledge; and
* Required libraries and bookstores to turn over records of books read by their patrons.
I have fought this fight for many years. I sponsored a bill to overturn the Patriot Act and have won some victories, but today the threat to your liberty and privacy is very real. We need leadership at the top that will prevent Washington from centralizing power and private data about our lives.
Or how about this on taxes and debt:
Real conservatives have always supported low taxes and low spending.
But today, too many politicians and lobbyists are spending America into ruin. We are nine trillion dollars in debt as a nation. Our mounting government debt endangers the financial future of our children and grandchildren. If we don't cut spending now, higher taxes and economic disaster will be in their future - and yours.
In addition, the Federal Reserve, our central bank, fosters runaway debt by increasing the money supply - making each dollar in your pocket worth less. The Fed is a private bank run by unelected officials who are not required to be open or accountable to "we the people."
I could go on and on, but you get the point.
I am an independent voter who has never once cast a vote for a Republican candidate. That's not to say I've voted Democrat every time, although I mostly have. I voted Libertarian in 1996 when it was quite clear that Clinton would win, in order to register some modicum of support for the Libertarian Party.
If the Republicans nominate one of the other jokers running like McCain or Giuliani, you can count on me voting Democrat even if they nominate a dyslexic orangutan.
On the other hand, give me a real choice... put Ron Paul up on the stage, and you might just get my vote.
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Submitted by Fartman (user info) at 2008-02-21 14:40:00 EST (#)
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If the Republicans nominate one of the other jokers running like McCain or Giuliani, you can count on me voting Democrat even if they nominate a dyslexic orangutan.
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Funny how things work out, isn't it?
Submitted by Snock (user info) at 2008-02-21 14:10:58 EST (#)
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Hopefully he'll have a chance next time, if he chooses to run again. Ron Paul is a beast.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-09 10:13:59 EDT (#)
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Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2007-05-08 03:01:34 EDT (#)
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As an aside, I'm not 17, I voted in my state elections last year and study politics. At what age do you recommend I start leaving sentences on political ubersite posts?
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when you reach a 100 pounds
Submitted by greEn_uGly (user info) at 2007-05-09 03:58:20 EDT (#)
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i'm not for the irs or agencies like that,
but how will the government provide the basic services you listed after abolishing income tax?
if people have more money, the price of goods will increase, i think government should be there to make sure it's not a free for all for the big corporations
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2007-05-09 03:36:13 EDT (#)
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shut up, according to your logic I'm rich.
Right now, if I left my job and took my retirement money with me somewhere, I'd get penalized for early withdrawl then taxed by the IRS for taxable income.
Furthermore I see oh about $800 every two weeks eaten by the government for various large governement programs I don't want.
So take your rich get richer argument and stick it. I want to see our government disappear except to cover the following bases: establish Justice, insure domestic Tranquility, provide for the common defense, promote the general Welfare, and secure the Blessings of Liberty to ourselves and our Posterity
thats it. Take all your other horseshit programs and agencies and stick it.
Submitted by greEn_uGly (user info) at 2007-05-09 03:28:45 EDT (#)
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i don't see how anyone on the left can support this guy,
sure he's sincere and all,
but by abolishing taxes, in the long run this will make the rich richer and the poor poorer,
just because this administration uses the money badly doesn't mean we have should stop taxes altogether.. just like because the people elected bush doesn't mean you should call for an end to democracy
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2007-05-08 16:30:16 EDT (#)
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Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2007-05-08 03:49:32 EDT (#)
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We have a shitty constitution, so maybe I'm prejudiced from the start.
I'd be interested to know how you think a strict constitutionalist would deal with climate change?
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Let him answer himself: http://youtube.com/watch?v=pJzfS8ZhRSg
Bill Maher tries to be cute here and Ron Paul steamrolls over him. We know reason when we hear it, Bill. And we know smear tactics when we hear them too, even if disguised as "comedy".
Here's an email I got from the Ron Paul campaign, by the way:
Ron Paul Builds Momentum
FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE
May 8, 2007
ARLINGTON, VA - Congressman Ron Paul's support has soared since the first Republican presidential debate. Conservative commentator John McLaughlin, host of "The McLaughlin Group," cited Ron Paul as having given "the best performance of the debate." In fact, the Paul campaign's apparent strength has many other pundits scrambling to explain it. Paul campaign officials offer the following examples of the candidate's rising success.
Since the debate on May 3, Ron Paul:
1. Handily won two post-debate polls posted by event sponsor MSNBC.
2. Placed a close third (18%) in a post-debate poll on the conservative Drudge Report.
3. Won an ABCNews.com online debate poll with 84%.
4. Won a C-SPAN online GOP candidate poll with 69%.
5. Became the third most-mentioned person in the blogosphere, beating out Paris Hilton, according to the reputable Technorati.com.
6. Produced a YouTube.com video that was ranked the 8th most popular overall video, and the most-viewed political video.
7. Was featured, by popular demand, on the front of Digg.com.
8. Generated so many bulletin posts on MySpace.com that the site owner News Corp. blocked all additional posts about Dr. Paul.
9. Became a "most searched" term on Google and Yahoo!.
10. Saw a quadrupling of daily visitors to RonPaul2008.com.
"These figures speak for themselves," said campaign chairman Kent Snyder. "Ron Paul has quickly become a strong contender for the GOP nomination because of his powerful message of freedom and limited government."
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http://www.ronpaul2008.com
Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2007-05-08 03:49:32 EDT (#)
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We have a shitty constitution, so maybe I'm prejudiced from the start.
I'd be interested to know how you think a strict constitutionalist would deal with climate change?
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2007-05-08 03:42:22 EDT (#)
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I find it amazing that people get so upset at brad because he tells people to think for themselves and he holds them accountable for their beliefs.
then again, people don't like to be held to account for anything.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2007-05-08 03:36:08 EDT (#)
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Thorpe, I'll have you know, that "fringe" you're talking about is called the United States Constitution. Ron Paul is it's biggest, sometimes ONLY proponent in Washington these days. I'm not exaggerating.
If you haven't read the thing, you have no place calling anyone "fringe", and you certainly wouldn't call Ron Paul that.
You'd be surprised at some of the things we shouldn't be doing according to the constitution and do anyway. Our only hope is if people wise up, get educated by someone besides the money masters that run everything who want only to keep us stupid and uninformed, and vote for someone who will move this country back in the direction it should have gone a long fucking time ago.
Oh, by the way, just because you don't understand something, or just because it's not not always popular (Ron Paul is often the sole legislator to vote for or against measures in congress) doesn't mean it's not right.
We've been brainwashed to accept things our forefathers would have rioted over. I think a lot more people in this country are angry than you realize. Give Ron Paul a square chance in the media and stop railroading him, leaving him off of polls (as ABC recently did), and ignoring his impact on debates and there isn't a democrat or republican alive who could hang with him in a head to head debate. NOT ONE.
Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2007-05-08 03:29:03 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2007-05-08 17:19:25 EST (#)
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http://abcnews.go.com/politics/beseenbeheard/popup?id=3135373&POLL288=4000000
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I think he won too.
Don't get me wrong, I think he's 100% more honest than the others, and I hope he wins the nomination. I just don't find his ideology particularly feasible.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2007-05-08 03:19:25 EDT (#)
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http://abcnews.go.com/politics/beseenbeheard/popup?id=3135373&POLL288=4000000
Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2007-05-08 03:01:34 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-08 03:07:31 EST (#)
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and what have you read thorpe?
i can't wait for someone who isn't even legal to vote anywhere to enlighten us all
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Is this your latest pet peeve, Caul?
I've read his campaign page, his wiki entry, and watched the debates on Youtube. I'm not writing an opinion piece here, just saying that even from the little I've seen, it's pretty clear he is on the fringe, especially as tax and foreign policy goes, and I don't think the States are ready for that at all.
As an aside, I'm not 17, I voted in my state elections last year and study politics. At what age do you recommend I start leaving sentences on political ubersite posts?
Submitted by NerfHerder (user info) at 2007-05-07 21:25:05 EDT (#)
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I was with him until I saw he had ETS' support.
Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2007-05-07 20:51:35 EDT (#)
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And, for the record, I don't believe for one second that if Ron Paul got elected, all of his ideas would suddenly and instantaneously come to fruition.
However, it would be a voice - in the Oval Office - for reform of a lot of shit that I don't like.
Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2007-05-07 19:09:04 EDT (#)
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Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2007-05-07 18:59:59 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2007-05-04 18:23:02 EDT (#)
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By the way...I am an independent voter as well. I'll be changing my party affiliation to support Paul in the primary.
I even signed up to help in his campaign last night, right after seeing that debate. I figure I can get cynical about politics and give up or assume it's all rigged and no matter what I do he won't make it, or I can throw caution to the wind and stand up for an America that's broken and begging for someone to change it. I'm always talking about "revolution" and shit, well...THIS IS IT. This is the revolution. Short of taking a bullet to the chest, I feel like supporting this man now is the best thing I can do to put my money where my mouth is.
I hope you all join Razor and me in supporting this guy.
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surreal
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Not as surreal as you think. ETS and I share a lot of the same viewpoints, we just have massive disagreements about how to best present said viewpoints.
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2007-05-07 18:59:59 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2007-05-04 18:23:02 EDT (#)
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By the way...I am an independent voter as well. I'll be changing my party affiliation to support Paul in the primary.
I even signed up to help in his campaign last night, right after seeing that debate. I figure I can get cynical about politics and give up or assume it's all rigged and no matter what I do he won't make it, or I can throw caution to the wind and stand up for an America that's broken and begging for someone to change it. I'm always talking about "revolution" and shit, well...THIS IS IT. This is the revolution. Short of taking a bullet to the chest, I feel like supporting this man now is the best thing I can do to put my money where my mouth is.
I hope you all join Razor and me in supporting this guy.
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surreal
Submitted by beeltea (user info) at 2007-05-07 16:33:24 EDT (#)
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oops sorry
Submitted by beeltea (user info) at 2007-05-07 16:33:10 EDT (#)
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I'd like to see a Ron Paul vs. Bill Richardson election. I think those two are the best candidates running in each party, and I honestly don't know who I like more. Sadly, neither one is going to be able to match the exposure or funding of the frontrunners, but I'm sure the conscientious research of American voters will propel them to their respective nominations.
...Not.
Submitted by Manfre (user info) at 2007-05-07 14:28:02 EDT (#)
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Im running for office in 11 years.
Youll see. By that time youll have had so many dumb fucks in office, youll wanna vote for me.
Then Ill have several dozen sex scandals. Maybe have a few figure heads of other countries killed. And probably abuse all kinds of powers that I have. But at least Ill do a decent job of cutting back on the defecit, and come up with a solution for social security.
Ill be a pimp president.
Submitted by QueenAshlee (user info) at 2007-05-07 14:17:04 EDT (#)
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I agree that this guy is a great candidate but I wonder how likely it is that we'll see another Republican in office after the last 8 years... Especially with the strong chance that he'll be running against Hillary and she did such a good job the first time around...
Submitted by QueenAshlee (user info) at 2007-05-07 14:13:11 EDT (#)
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Holy shit man...
I'm scared. Doubleplus scared.
Submitted by domenad (user info) at 2007-05-07 13:22:56 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2007-05-05 05:47:27 EDT (#)
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Even if you don't vote for Ron Paul, listen to the man and you might learn a thing or two.
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Even though you have absolutely no place lecturing me about what's conservative and what isn't, you can feel good about this - my primary vote will be for Ron Paul for the nomination. Happy?
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-07 13:07:31 EDT (#)
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and what have you read thorpe?
i can't wait for someone who isn't even legal to vote anywhere to enlighten us all
Submitted by greEn_uGly (user info) at 2007-05-06 02:02:38 EDT (#)
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just wondering, how does he suppose he's gonna abolish income tax and fix medicare at the same time? is he going to increase taxes on big companies? cause that's not very republican,
and his idea of getting rid of immigrants could prove disasterous for the economy as well..
Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2007-05-06 01:28:48 EDT (#)
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In all seriousness, from what I've read this guy would be a disastrous president. I hope he wins the nomination though.
Submitted by hidden101 (user info) at 2007-05-06 00:44:30 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2007-05-04 18:23:02 EDT (#)
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By the way...I am an independent voter as well. I'll be changing my party affiliation to support Paul in the primary.
I even signed up to help in his campaign last night, right after seeing that debate. I figure I can get cynical about politics and give up or assume it's all rigged and no matter what I do he won't make it, or I can throw caution to the wind and stand up for an America that's broken and begging for someone to change it. I'm always talking about "revolution" and shit, well...THIS IS IT. This is the revolution. Short of taking a bullet to the chest, I feel like supporting this man now is the best thing I can do to put my money where my mouth is.
I hope you all join Razor and me in supporting this guy.
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you can't trust him, ETS. how could you have been fooled so easily? he's a Republican pawn to stay in power and he's playing you the fool to get your support and it's working! TRUST NO ONE.
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Ron Paul has been voting on his own for over 20 years, separating himself from his party by representing TRUE conservatism, not this watered down, big government, empire-building of the neo-cons and the so-called Clintonesque "liberals".
I'll tell you one thing though, I don't fucking trust you at all. Judging by your professed occupation and some of the shit you say, I'd sooner throw you off a bridge as listen to you.
You think I'm being "fooled" because you are uninformed. Those of you who don't know which one of us to believe, just go to the congressional website and look at Ron Paul's voting record. It's impeccable. The means what he says. Also, look at this many many videos of speeches he's given from the floor of the house in the last 5 or 6 years especially condemning the Bush administration's actions, condemning strongly this "war on terror" even when most DEMOCRATS were singing "God Bless America" in the chorus.
As cynical as I am about politicians, if I actually trust this guy and am excited about his candidacy, hey, maybe there's something there. I'll leave it up to those of you interested in looking into it yourselves. Don't listen to us, hear it from Ron Paul himself:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BEmxvxicTo8
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like i said before- you are either fake or very stupid. http://www.m-w.com/dictionary/sarcasm
i was making a joke at your expense, ree-ree. i think Ron Paul is fuckin' HARSH and i'm going to vote for him.
ps- you have no idea what my occupation is. and if you threaten to throw me off a bridge again, i'll have my good buddies at the CIA kill you and make it look like an accident. they have already given me a copy of your file. don't make trouble for yourself, Bradley.
Submitted by Flack (user info) at 2007-05-06 00:30:59 EDT (#)
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I like him too!
Go Tigers. Fuck KC!
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2007-05-05 18:21:44 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2007-05-04 18:23:02 EDT (#)
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By the way...I am an independent voter as well. I'll be changing my party affiliation to support Paul in the primary.
I even signed up to help in his campaign last night, right after seeing that debate. I figure I can get cynical about politics and give up or assume it's all rigged and no matter what I do he won't make it, or I can throw caution to the wind and stand up for an America that's broken and begging for someone to change it. I'm always talking about "revolution" and shit, well...THIS IS IT. This is the revolution. Short of taking a bullet to the chest, I feel like supporting this man now is the best thing I can do to put my money where my mouth is.
I hope you all join Razor and me in supporting this guy.
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you can't trust him, ETS. how could you have been fooled so easily? he's a Republican pawn to stay in power and he's playing you the fool to get your support and it's working! TRUST NO ONE.
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Ron Paul has been voting on his own for over 20 years, separating himself from his party by representing TRUE conservatism, not this watered down, big government, empire-building of the neo-cons and the so-called Clintonesque "liberals".
I'll tell you one thing though, I don't fucking trust you at all. Judging by your professed occupation and some of the shit you say, I'd sooner throw you off a bridge as listen to you.
You think I'm being "fooled" because you are uninformed. Those of you who don't know which one of us to believe, just go to the congressional website and look at Ron Paul's voting record. It's impeccable. The means what he says. Also, look at this many many videos of speeches he's given from the floor of the house in the last 5 or 6 years especially condemning the Bush administration's actions, condemning strongly this "war on terror" even when most DEMOCRATS were singing "God Bless America" in the chorus.
As cynical as I am about politicians, if I actually trust this guy and am excited about his candidacy, hey, maybe there's something there. I'll leave it up to those of you interested in looking into it yourselves. Don't listen to us, hear it from Ron Paul himself:
http://youtube.com/watch?v=BEmxvxicTo8
Submitted by Unabonger (user info) at 2007-05-05 12:23:32 EDT (#)
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"...even if they nominate a dyslexic orangutan."
no, cause you can only be president for 8 years...
Submitted by hidden101 (user info) at 2007-05-05 12:19:45 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2007-05-04 18:23:02 EDT (#)
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By the way...I am an independent voter as well. I'll be changing my party affiliation to support Paul in the primary.
I even signed up to help in his campaign last night, right after seeing that debate. I figure I can get cynical about politics and give up or assume it's all rigged and no matter what I do he won't make it, or I can throw caution to the wind and stand up for an America that's broken and begging for someone to change it. I'm always talking about "revolution" and shit, well...THIS IS IT. This is the revolution. Short of taking a bullet to the chest, I feel like supporting this man now is the best thing I can do to put my money where my mouth is.
I hope you all join Razor and me in supporting this guy.
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you can't trust him, ETS. how could you have been fooled so easily? he's a Republican pawn to stay in power and he's playing you the fool to get your support and it's working! TRUST NO ONE.
i agree that the Republican party of today is drastically different than what it used to stand for. people i know that are members of the party are so digusted with what it has been shaped into by the crooks and filthy, greedy liars. i'll vote for someone that can bring the party back to it's roots any day.
thank you for bringing this to my attention, Jeremy. i haven't been keeping up with current events because i've been working so much that i don't really have a life anymore. it's sad, i know.
i'm going to be checking this guy out a lot more. i'm getting excited. i think Americans are finally fed up and are ready for drastic changes. i have a lot more to say about all this, but i just realized it's an hour later than i thought it was and i need to try to book a flight back to Chicago ASAP!
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2007-05-05 05:47:27 EDT (#)
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Submitted by domenad (user info) at 2007-05-04 19:09:37 EDT (#)
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Does this mean you're a conservative? Or is he just the candidate that you think will give you what you want right now?
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What does "conservative" mean to you, Anthony? Sum it up in a couple paragraphs what it means to be "conservative". Humor me.
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I'll jump in front of this bullet.
The US political parties are the opposite of what they claim to be in recent years. We have the Republicans giving the federal government it's most bloat since FDR with the whole homeland security nonsense, and the democrats, who by default, because they have been impotent for so long and not being physically able to control any funds, becoming the "blue dogs".
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Thank you, sir. What's amazing to me is that Anthony actually thinks he's being conservative. Good to know there are still people out there who know what that means.
In case you didn't hear Bob, Anthony. Check this out: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji_G0MqAqq8
"Conservative" is not about flag waving and nation building, in fact, nothing could be further from our constitutional beginnings. In fact, the constitution was set up to address the temptation to invade other countries in an effort to stuff our national coffers with booty. They were wise enough to have studied a little history and realize that this ultimately meant the downfall of whatever society tried it.
It would behoove us to be students of history again. And no, The History Channel does NOT qualify. I like The History Channel, don't get me wrong; it's good at what it does, but it doesn't address many of the things we really NEED to know.
Even if you don't vote for Ron Paul, listen to the man and you might learn a thing or two.
Submitted by Barnymeinhoff (user info) at 2007-05-05 05:21:16 EDT (#)
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A genuine discussion enducing piece......what the fucking fuck.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2007-05-05 05:03:11 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Spooner (user info) at 2007-05-05 04:41:23 EDT (#)
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Nooooooooo one cares.
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Speak for yourself. Better yet, go play with your hand-turkeys and let the adults speak.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2007-05-05 04:47:53 EDT (#)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzFMo6w-hsk&mode=related&search=
There's a longer version of the previous video, Ron Paul on Iraq.
Submitted by Spooner (user info) at 2007-05-05 04:41:23 EDT (#)
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Nooooooooo one cares.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2007-05-05 04:39:04 EDT (#)
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Ron Paul, Texas Republican slams Bush "demented philosophy of conquest: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZmPS0XmeBw&mode=related&search=
This is the kind of speech Ron Paul gives on the floor of the house of representatives on a weekly basis. Take a guess why you haven't heard of him before...
Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2007-05-05 04:23:04 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2007-05-05 18:15:17 EST (#)
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Don't take this the wrong way, Thorpe, but you're young.
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That's what I meant.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2007-05-05 04:15:17 EDT (#)
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Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2007-05-05 02:16:16 EDT (#)
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This guy sounds alright.
Personally I don't mind McCain. Actually most on both sides this coming election seem to be a lot more credible than what I'm used to.
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Don't take this the wrong way, Thorpe, but you're young. Very few of them are credible. You can start with those who have $15 to $20 million in their coffers.
McCain is a puppet. The man is being thrust forward by the same people thrusting Hilary forward and thrusting Giuliani forward, and I'm while can't say for sure about Obama, I can say that his sudden and meteoric thrust into the limelight has been very fishy to me.
You have to view anything you see on mainstream media sources with a filter. If you want to know what's going on in American government and with American media complicty in the racket, I have a prescription for you...all of you. Do the following:
TiVo or watch about a day's worth of CSPAN. Then TiVo or watch that night's news programs and look at the difference.
You can't take in what's going on in politics in 30 second clips, people. Life is complicated, and you can't get a full picture by reading the cliff notes.
Let's get informed and stop being driven like cattle.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2007-05-05 04:03:49 EDT (#)
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you might be starting to realize that party lines are irrelavant when it comes to the person.
If not you can continue to be a sheep.
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HAHAHAHA!!!
Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2007-05-05 02:16:16 EDT (#)
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This guy sounds alright.
Personally I don't mind McCain. Actually most on both sides this coming election seem to be a lot more credible than what I'm used to.
Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2007-05-04 23:09:02 EDT (#)
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Loki, you may be right... I have somehow misstated my opinion on abortion. I believe that choice should be a fundamental civil right... but the issue has more grey area than gay rights from what I can see... there are questions with abortion... where do you draw the line in terms of WHEN it's okay, that sort of thing... whereas just let the gays marry... that just seems so fundamentally basic.
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Submitted by bob (user info) at 2007-05-04 14:16:31 EDT (#)
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...but he's socially conservative, and I will never vote for someone who wants to overturn Roe, refuse even civil unions for gay couples, dismantle welfare (Although the system definitely needs reworking), etc
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Says the person who will never have to worry about abortion because it's a womens issue, civil unions or whatnot (I'm assuming that you're straight), or welfare, based upon your ivy league attendance. Be practical, not cool.
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stupidest comment EVAR
Submitted by lungfish (user info) at 2007-05-04 21:15:25 EDT (#)
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I've always voted Democratic or Green (except for Republican former Arizona Attorney General Grant Woods; I voted for that guy; that guy was awesome; most Republicans hate him), but I could support that guy.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-04 20:54:48 EDT (#)
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It's not an opinion on american politics. It's an opinion on your copy&paste skills.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2007-05-04 20:50:36 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-04 20:12:55 EDT (#)
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you are full of shit, in my opinion
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You're entitled to it.
You're Canadian in my opinion, so last I checked your opinion doesn't mean much in terms of American politics.
Submitted by bart (user info) at 2007-05-04 20:13:25 EDT (#)
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Mike Gravel
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-04 20:12:55 EDT (#)
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what it also says is that you rely on just one source of information, which is why you've been so stubborn to listen to anything else.
what you're doing is regurgitating the pre-fabricated opinions of a marginal version of Billy O'Reilly. you're not doing any thinking except screaming louder and louder whatever your pastor told you on sunday.
you are full of shit, in my opinion
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-04 20:08:30 EDT (#)
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i've seen that video on the Federal Reserve already after i watched his analogy on the Gulf Of Tunkin/Iran a while ago.
I don't need Alex Jones to give me pointers to already available news.
Your uncanning ability to copy&paste everything he says shows you are not the great free mind you claim to be, but just a lazy parrot who can't find information on his own.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2007-05-04 20:03:45 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-04 19:54:37 EDT (#)
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i wondered why ETS was suddenly interested in something else than 9/11.
so i went to his favorite website, which he's been pasting articles almost word for word for more than a year and SURPISE! http://infowars.com/articles/us/vote_08_gop_debate_ron_paul_speaks_truth.htm
does alex jones pay you ETS?
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No one pays me dude. I just love my country and I am aware that we are being screwed. That said, I do listen to Alex Jones Quite a lot and consider him a kindred spirit of sorts. He endorses Ron Paul as a true conservative (NON NEO-CON) who is talking about making a real difference, namely stopping this nation-building foreign policy and this big government, welfare state created by and necessitated by the Federal Reserve System.
Don't take my word for it. Just listen to the man.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji_G0MqAqq8&mode=related&search=
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2007-05-04 19:59:15 EDT (#)
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Submitted by domenad (user info) at 2007-05-04 19:09:37 EDT (#)
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Does this mean you're a conservative? Or is he just the candidate that you think will give you what you want right now?
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What does "conservative" mean to you, Anthony? Sum it up in a couple paragraphs what it means to be "conservative". Humor me.
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I'll jump in front of this bullet.
The US political parties are the opposite of what they claim to be in recent years. We have the Republicans giving the federal government it's most bloat since FDR with the whole homeland security nonsense, and the democrats, who by default, because they have been impotent for so long and not being physically able to control any funds, becoming the "blue dogs".
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2007-05-04 19:56:59 EDT (#)
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Submitted by loki (user info) at 2007-05-04 14:49:59 EDT (#)
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While we're on the subject of the presidential race there is something that bothers me about the whole race & gender issue. Specifically I head a story on NPR where they interviewed some kids at a historically black college. The kids said that while they were happy to see a woman running they were going to vote for Obama because he's black and they identify more with a black person of either gender than they do a woman.
What bothers me about it is that if everyone took that attitude then there would be no minority politicians in office at all because of the definition of the word minority. Essentially half of our elected officials (or maybe more like 55%) would be women and the other half men and all of them at least right now would be white.
Fuck that. I'm not going to vote for someone just because we have the same phenotype.
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NPR is full of shit about 50% of the time on political issues. I don't listen to them so much anymore.
Watch this video if you get a chance... It'll explain what I was talking about in my previous review more clearly:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji_G0MqAqq8&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji_G0MqAqq8&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji_G0MqAqq8&mode=related&search=
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ji_G0MqAqq8&mode=related&search=
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-04 19:54:37 EDT (#)
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i wondered why ETS was suddenly interested in something else than 9/11.
so i went to his favorite website, which he's been pasting articles almost word for word for more than a year and SURPISE! http://infowars.com/articles/us/vote_08_gop_debate_ron_paul_speaks_truth.htm
does alex jones pay you ETS?
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2007-05-04 19:52:53 EDT (#)
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Submitted by domenad (user info) at 2007-05-04 19:09:37 EDT (#)
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Does this mean you're a conservative? Or is he just the candidate that you think will give you what you want right now?
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What does "conservative" mean to you, Anthony? Sum it up in a couple paragraphs what it means to be "conservative". Humor me.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2007-05-04 19:49:55 EDT (#)
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Submitted by loki (user info) at 2007-05-04 18:39:35 EDT (#)
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interesting
1. I do consider abortion a civil right. In fact I would dare say that the right to control your own body is if anything a more key freedom than the right to vote. I also believe that you should be able to control the timing of your own death and in the same vein I don't think that "they" should be able to tell me I have to wear a seat belt. I think that wearing a seat belt is a good idea and certainly I wear a seat belt because damn its crazy out there on them roads, but if I want to launch my idiot self through my windshield on the freeway then that's my business.
2. Do you really think that we are entirely moving forward towards a color blind society with our race relations in this country?
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It pains me when the debate is moved away from real issues to the same old divisive crap that always ends with us being fucked over.
This race isn't about abortion rights. Please study and understand the bigger issues.
This guy, Ron Paul, is actually talking about abolishing the CIA, the IRS, the Federal Reserve!
Do you grasp the significance of that? If you actually take the time to study the constitution, the Federal Reserve Act of 1913, the establishment of the IRS and the CIA and the problems they brought about, you'll understand why this is so important, you'll understand why this guy could be the greatest president we've had since the founding fathers.
Just look at how your income taxes are being used to fuel this military industrial complex beast and how the CIA is starting covert wars all over the world to secure the drug lanes and money laundering operations and to help companies like Exxon steal the world's oil so they can suppress alternate technologies... It's just a scam, Loki. You, we, are being scammed.
Big government is not now and has never been the answer. Even when Roosevelt brought in Social Security and the whole New Deal system of welfare state where the government takes it upon itself to save the people from themselves, it was a sham. One look at the Federal Reserve System will tell you how and why the Great Depression was started. Where do you think the Kennedy Family got all their money? They got out of the stock market before the crash and bought gold. They knew what was coming just as a handful of other opportunistic wealthy people did and they capitalized on it.
Anyone who actually studies American history outside a controlled classroom will understand why what Ron Paul is saying is so important.
Abortion, racism, gay rights...all these issues are secondary to the prime issues I just mentioned. Without fixing those first you can't HAVE civil rights! You can't have a just system void of economic slavery if you don't address the core of the issue. And far and away, Ron Paul is the ONLY candidate doing that...on either side.
Tell you what, go to youtube and search for Ron Paul's name and listen to the man.
Here...just start here and go down the video list: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6d8MIENVtKw
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-04 19:37:05 EDT (#)
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I doubled my salary since the last time we spoke.
But I still pay so much fucking taxes. It's in the french gene, you know?
I already told my girlfriend that as soon as her company could function on its own without her direct intervention, we would get the fuck out of this place and go right down to a sunny place. I don't give a shit about money, I need very little to be happy but I'm not sure I can handle many more of those neverending winters without killing myself.
I move to fucking Sudan if it meant to never see snow EVER AGAIN!
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-04 19:17:58 EDT (#)
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I don't live in fucking Florida. I don't have access to a millions of brands of fruits.
I know you americans like things big, but all I want is my berries not to be the size of watermelons. :-|
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I told you to get down here, asshole. There's are tons of good looking broads and you'd double your salary. And the fruit is awesome.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-04 19:17:58 EDT (#)
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I don't live in fucking Florida. I don't have access to a millions of brands of fruits.
I know you americans like things big, but all I want is my berries not to be the size of watermelons. :-|
Submitted by domenad (user info) at 2007-05-04 19:10:35 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-04 18:56:08 EDT (#)
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i think the USA should stop making giant transgenic strawberries that taste like ass and rot in less than 10 seconds.
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Buy Driscoll's strawberries. They're good and I don't believe their genmodded.
Submitted by domenad (user info) at 2007-05-04 19:09:37 EDT (#)
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Does this mean you're a conservative? Or is he just the candidate that you think will give you what you want right now?
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-04 18:56:08 EDT (#)
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i think the USA should stop making giant transgenic strawberries that taste like ass and rot in less than 10 seconds.
cuz you see, i like strawberries in the breakfast, but i live in Canada so 11 months of 12, i have to eat those outrageous creatures.
is there a candidate that included this in his program? like some kind of american José Bové.
that is my only beef with america right now. well that and Forest Whitaker, i hate that fucking guy.
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2007-05-04 18:39:35 EDT (#)
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interesting
1. I do consider abortion a civil right. In fact I would dare say that the right to control your own body is if anything a more key freedom than the right to vote. I also believe that you should be able to control the timing of your own death and in the same vein I don't think that "they" should be able to tell me I have to wear a seat belt. I think that wearing a seat belt is a good idea and certainly I wear a seat belt because damn its crazy out there on them roads, but if I want to launch my idiot self through my windshield on the freeway then that's my business.
2. Do you really think that we are entirely moving forward towards a color blind society with our race relations in this country?
Submitted by firefly (user info) at 2007-05-04 18:28:22 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2007-05-04 18:23:02 EDT (#)
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By the way...I am an independent voter as well. I'll be changing my party affiliation to support Paul in the primary.
I even signed up to help in his campaign last night, right after seeing that debate. I figure I can get cynical about politics and give up or assume it's all rigged and no matter what I do he won't make it, or I can throw caution to the wind and stand up for an America that's broken and begging for someone to change it. I'm always talking about "revolution" and shit, well...THIS IS IT. This is the revolution. Short of taking a bullet to the chest, I feel like supporting this man now is the best thing I can do to put my money where my mouth is.
I hope you all join Razor and me in supporting this guy.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2007-05-04 18:13:05 EDT (#)
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http://www.ubersite.com/m/101373
Yep. Ron Paul is the fucking man.
He'll be the first politician of any kind I give money to. He is the best hope for America's future, no doubt about it.
Obama was thrust into the spotlight...by whom? Where does this unknown end up being not only senator, but the money leader in the presidential campaigns?
Hilary...do I even need to go into her? One word: Bilderberger. Another word: Clinton. Yet another word: HELL no.
Giuliani...I have more reasons than even most people to insist this man NOT be our president, but let's start with the fact that the man is a FUCKING MOBSTER!
McCain...yea, let's vote for Bush again for another 8 years. That'll be REAL smart. What a desperate joke this guy is. I can't express my disdain for this man enough.
Mitt Romny...the guy looked like a plastic cut out of John Kerry calling himself a Republican. The man is a corporate suit. He's been bought and paid for already. He's not Republican money leader for nothing.
Submitted by TheUniter (user info) at 2007-05-04 16:33:41 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2007-05-04 16:10:37 EDT (#)
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Loki, this may spark its own set of controvery, but I don't consider abortion a "base human right".
Let me clarify. I'm 100% pro-choice, and even believe in partial birth abortions when medically necessary. To me, it's a no-brainer. But I don't see abortion as being a "civil right" in the same sense that voting, freedom, and marriage are.
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A few centuries, owning slaves was a right. A few decades ago, women weren't allowed to vote. There's a million of examples of 'rights' changing over time. Usually, 'rights' follow the norm, which is set by the people.
Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2007-05-04 16:10:37 EDT (#)
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Loki, this may spark its own set of controvery, but I don't consider abortion a "base human right".
Let me clarify. I'm 100% pro-choice, and even believe in partial birth abortions when medically necessary. To me, it's a no-brainer. But I don't see abortion as being a "civil right" in the same sense that voting, freedom, and marriage are.
Do you think the pendulum is going to swing backwards on civil rights based on race? Do you think that whether or not blacks can vote is in danger of once again becoming a hot button issue?
I feel that eventually gay rights will be the same way, and when we're really old, our generation will be regarded with faint embarrassment the same way we look at people from the 40s and 50s, and we say "Well, for a man of his times...".
Submitted by bob (user info) at 2007-05-04 16:01:53 EDT (#)
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...but he's socially conservative, and I will never vote for someone who wants to overturn Roe, refuse even civil unions for gay couples, dismantle welfare (Although the system definitely needs reworking), etc
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I didn't say I *would* vote for him, I said I *just might* vote for him.
You're never going to have a candidate whose views line up with yours 100%, and to be honest I don't think the President's opinion about civil unions matters for a damn, and let me tell you why.
Every year, the number of people who approve gay marriage swings in the favor of gay people. The reason is just like earlier civil rights struggles, as the older and stuck in their ways people die off and are replaced at the bottom end by more socially enlightened people from a different time period where things that were once taboo are now no big deal, the pendulum gradually and inevitably swings towards more rights... and the people of America decide these things.
Blacks didn't make their gains in the 60s because the President wanted them to... they made their gains because the opinion of society inevitably swung in their favor.
The same cannot be said about privacy laws, taxes, and other such things.
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Very true, but call me a young ideologue but id rather compromise in taxes than social issues.
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2007-05-04 15:44:29 EDT (#)
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Yea but Razor the problem with you entropy theory there is that these things tend to work more like a pendulum. It tends to be more liberal - conservative - liberal - conservative. Maybe over time the pendulum doesn't swing as far as it once did and it is true that more young people today are less bothered by homosexuality but it is also very possible and in fact likely to be a backlash.
Take this whole abortion thing. When I was in high school it was basically a non-issue. It was just considered legal and no one business. Sure there were people who were against it but even those people stayed out of it and considered it a personal issue. Hey you don't agree with it then fine don't have one but something happened. I don't know what but somewhere along the way I'm guessing it had something to do with the religious right involving themselves in politics in a way they never did before and suddenly it was back on the table. Maybe they just came up with new ways to chip away at it instead of taking it head on but the fact remains that an issue everyone considered settled years ago is a battle ground issue again.
I don't want this to turn into an abortion debate because it has been done to death I'm just using this as an example.
Submitted by pen_name (user info) at 2007-05-04 15:28:26 EDT (#)
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libertarians are insane. they are the scientologists of the politcal world.
Submitted by pen_name (user info) at 2007-05-04 15:24:10 EDT (#)
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there is only one kind of republican i like. a dead one.
and lincoln. that guy was all right.
Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2007-05-04 15:22:04 EDT (#)
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Submitted by bob (user info) at 2007-05-04 14:16:31 EDT (#)
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...but he's socially conservative, and I will never vote for someone who wants to overturn Roe, refuse even civil unions for gay couples, dismantle welfare (Although the system definitely needs reworking), etc
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I didn't say I *would* vote for him, I said I *just might* vote for him.
You're never going to have a candidate whose views line up with yours 100%, and to be honest I don't think the President's opinion about civil unions matters for a damn, and let me tell you why.
Every year, the number of people who approve gay marriage swings in the favor of gay people. The reason is just like earlier civil rights struggles, as the older and stuck in their ways people die off and are replaced at the bottom end by more socially enlightened people from a different time period where things that were once taboo are now no big deal, the pendulum gradually and inevitably swings towards more rights... and the people of America decide these things.
Blacks didn't make their gains in the 60s because the President wanted them to... they made their gains because the opinion of society inevitably swung in their favor.
The same cannot be said about privacy laws, taxes, and other such things.
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Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2007-05-04 15:08:25 EDT (#)
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If we wanted to cause mass-chaos, we would put on the ballots:
"Should abortion be made illegal?"
O yes
O no
"Should gays be allowed to marry?"
O yes
O no
We would have nobody to blame but ourselves for the outcome then, and the back and forth bickering would end.
That is, after the riots.
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I wish that would happen. Seriously, an action like that might actually revive my faith in this so called democracy.
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2007-05-04 15:08:25 EDT (#)
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If we wanted to cause mass-chaos, we would put on the ballots:
"Should abortion be made illegal?"
O yes
O no
"Should gays be allowed to marry?"
O yes
O no
We would have nobody to blame but ourselves for the outcome then, and the back and forth bickering would end.
That is, after the riots.
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2007-05-04 14:49:59 EDT (#)
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While we're on the subject of the presidential race there is something that bothers me about the whole race & gender issue. Specifically I head a story on NPR where they interviewed some kids at a historically black college. The kids said that while they were happy to see a woman running they were going to vote for Obama because he's black and they identify more with a black person of either gender than they do a woman.
What bothers me about it is that if everyone took that attitude then there would be no minority politicians in office at all because of the definition of the word minority. Essentially half of our elected officials (or maybe more like 55%) would be women and the other half men and all of them at least right now would be white.
Fuck that. I'm not going to vote for someone just because we have the same phenotype.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-04 14:45:58 EDT (#)
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'it's not your brother so why bother'
hahahah, it's not your BROTHER...i meant problem but my brain had a short-cicuit i suppose...lol
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-04 14:42:59 EDT (#)
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seriously, the 'it's not your brother so why bother' argument is stupid
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-04 14:42:21 EDT (#)
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I'M NOT A JEW SO EVEN THOUGH IT'S NOT COOL TO GAS THEM, IT'S PRACTICAL!
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2007-05-04 14:37:14 EDT (#)
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I have no use for prostitutes, and gays don't bother me because I'm not gay.
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i remembered an old reply about you on the Terri Schiavo case, B-Bob. you were saying..."it sets a precedents! if you ever get in that situation, how you would feel about it?"
same thing for gay civil unions or abortion. if you ever cheat on your wife and knock up some prostitute, you'll be damn happy she can abort it or if you ever realize you're into the cock and want to get a civil union or one of your friend does...what will you do?
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What the fuck are you talking about? B-Bob's down wit J.C. If he knocks up a hoe or craves the cock, all he has to do is pray.
http://www.ubersite.com/m/98055
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-04 14:32:10 EDT (#)
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i remembered an old reply about you on the Terri Schiavo case, B-Bob. you were saying..."it sets a precedents! if you ever get in that situation, how you would feel about it?"
same thing for gay civil unions or abortion. if you ever cheat on your wife and knock up some prostitute, you'll be damn happy she can abort it or if you ever realize you're into the cock and want to get a civil union or one of your friend does...what will you do?
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Submitted by bob (user info) at 2007-05-04 14:16:31 EDT (#)
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...but he's socially conservative, and I will never vote for someone who wants to overturn Roe, refuse even civil unions for gay couples, dismantle welfare (Although the system definitely needs reworking), etc
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Says the person who will never have to worry about abortion because it's a womens issue, civil unions or whatnot (I'm assuming that you're straight), or welfare, based upon your ivy league attendance. Be practical, not cool.
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way to go, pilatus. just because it's not your problem doesn't mean you want something to happen. otherwise, why are you providing freedom to iraqis, mr. practical?
and abortion does concern men cuz if the girl and you decide to have it vaccumed and you can,t, you're stuck with child support.
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2007-05-04 14:22:49 EDT (#)
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Submitted by bob (user info) at 2007-05-04 14:16:31 EDT (#)
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...but he's socially conservative, and I will never vote for someone who wants to overturn Roe, refuse even civil unions for gay couples, dismantle welfare (Although the system definitely needs reworking), etc
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Says the person who will never have to worry about abortion because it's a womens issue, civil unions or whatnot (I'm assuming that you're straight), or welfare, based upon your ivy league attendance. Be practical, not cool.
Submitted by bob (user info) at 2007-05-04 14:16:31 EDT (#)
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...but he's socially conservative, and I will never vote for someone who wants to overturn Roe, refuse even civil unions for gay couples, dismantle welfare (Although the system definitely needs reworking), etc
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-04 14:10:11 EDT (#)
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i think Bush deserves a third chance. you guys are so demanding.
HE'S LIKE THE NEW FDR!
Submitted by Jeanneee (user info) at 2007-05-04 14:08:47 EDT (#)
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OMG ME TOO! Vote Giuliani in '08 - we desperately need a wop in the White House.
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2007-05-04 13:56:00 EDT (#)
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anti-choice <> personal freedom
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2007-05-04 13:55:29 EDT (#)
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yeah but where does he stand of fat headed Englishmen getting permanent residency?
hmm?
THAT is the burning question on the nations lips.
Submitted by no1hasdis (user info) at 2007-05-04 13:51:08 EDT (#)
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But if he won, would he actually follow through on any of it?
Submitted by FartSmeller (user info) at 2007-05-04 13:50:31 EDT (#)
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I'm saving my vote for that Nixon fellow. He seems nice.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-04 13:42:11 EDT (#)
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BUSH/CHENEY 2008!
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-05-04 13:25:49 EDT (#)
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I like Razor.
He's smart and his wife is adorable.
Time for an unauthorized linkwhore... http://www.ubersite.com/m/101399
It's political, too!!!
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-05-04 13:24:11 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2007-05-04 13:24:04 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Paul will most likely be a vice-presidential candidate to help one of the Yankees pick up some southern votes.
Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2007-05-04 13:23:25 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Having two first names may make him worth my while.
Submitted by shitfuck (user info) at 2007-05-04 13:21:03 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Ron Paul or Ru Paul?
Both fags.