The Nazis may have been on to something (4715 hits)
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Submitted by John Wilkes Booth (View user info) at 2003-07-14 20:35:17 EDT
Recently, due to a lack of experience, effort, and "job skills", i was forced to take a job at the local university, carrying bags for a convention there.
This was a horrible job. It had awkward hours, required a lot of heavy lifting, and payed well under the state's minimum wage, because it was undeclared income. Never skycap. Never.
When i applied for this job, i knew very little about the convention, but when i arrived the first day i discovered that it was an all-jewish convention. As the day progressed, i carried bags for jews from as far away as brazil, australia, and switzerland, not to mention almost every state.
Apparently, the group was for invited members only, and it met every 2 years at some location either in the united states, or europe.
Why would all these jews be coming to my shitty little town from all over the world?
BECAUSE THEY'RE CONTROLING THE WORLD'S BANKS AND MEDIA!
Ive never understood why the Nazis could have honestly thought that the jews were running the world, but after working for 25 hours at this convention, the concept doesn't seem so strange.
The guests would be very friendly until they found out i was not part of the kalah (the organization to which they all belonged), then they would pretty much stop talking to me, and let me carry their bags in silence.
It's all a little suspicious if you ask me.
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Submitted by Amontillado (user info) at 2007-02-26 16:36:03 EST (#)
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Holy shit
Submitted by Maltese (user info) at 2006-09-05 00:45:41 EDT (#)
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Craptacular.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-05-03 08:36:24 EDT (#)
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Razor seems extremely juvenile. This is obviously a trolling post, why even give it the attention of 1000 heat? He would be instantly banned in Uber today.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-05-03 08:36:24 EDT (#)
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Razor seems extremely juvenile. This is obviously a trolling post, why even give it the attention of 1000 heat? He would be instantly banned in Uber today.
Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2005-09-20 21:39:16 EDT (#)
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Hitler did a remake of the old Sonny and Cher song
"I got Jews, babe."
Submitted by Barnymeinhoff (user info) at 2005-09-20 20:02:45 EDT (#)
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tagged
Submitted by MANICMOTHER (user info) at 2005-08-18 09:28:39 EDT (#)
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WoW Razor, every couple of seconds?
I'm suprised the server didn't crash.
Submitted by MrSparkle847 (user info) at 2005-08-18 09:28:15 EDT (#)
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Jewish people are like us, except they're Jewish. If a few were dicks to you, it doesn't mean the rest are, too; just because I gave you a -2 doesn't mean that other people will.
Unless the post is shitty.
Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2005-08-18 09:05:25 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by joedaddy (user info) at 2005-08-18 05:05:45 EDT (#)
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I guess in the beginning, there were no rules against spamming.
<sigh>
Schwartz
Submitted by DonovanMD (user info) at 2005-08-18 01:34:24 EDT (#)
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Donovan was here.
Submitted by d_prime (user info) at 2005-07-28 18:02:11 EDT (#)
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That'll teach 'em to be Jewish in your country.
Submitted by Practice (user info) at 2005-07-28 17:48:06 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by bossk (user info) at 2005-02-14 17:21:55 EST (#)
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Now that you've pissed them off, you'll never get a job.
Submitted by fudgepacker (user info) at 2005-02-14 17:03:23 EST (#)
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asscock
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2005-01-08 15:39:03 EST (#)
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Holy shit! Razor was fucking pissed. Second most reviewed post ever.
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2004-12-16 17:46:58 EST (#)
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ahahaha ban Razor
Submitted by spedmonkey (user info) at 2004-08-20 12:29:39 EDT (#)
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Good God. Fetish ain't got nothing on Razor.
Submitted by StonedSilly (user info) at 2004-04-17 14:21:58 EDT (#)
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Worst ranked post I have ever seen.
-1.86 on 1134 reviews.
It deserves at LEAST a -1.96.
-StonedSilly
Submitted by hairycoo (user info) at 2004-03-11 08:34:04 EST (#)
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+2 for all of the minus 2s
Submitted by hidden101 (user info) at 2004-01-17 15:18:26 EST (#)
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oh no you di-int!
Submitted by squattail (user info) at 2004-01-17 14:39:13 EST (#)
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This has got to be the most successful flame post ever.
Submitted by Ingsoc (user info) at 2003-12-28 15:21:53 EST (#)
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The Nazis may have been on to something (Rating: -1.87 on 1130 reviews, last by bargled 69 days ago)
SIXTY-NINE, DUDE!
Submitted by bargled (user info) at 2003-10-20 15:36:53 EDT (#)
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to make it an even 1130 ratings.
Submitted by shandythedog (user info) at 2003-10-11 03:31:59 EDT (#)
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i love this! beautifully written, with that final "it's all a bit suspicious to me" conveying a gentle self-depracating humour and also a hint of madness. The normal, friendly engaging chit chat style build up with all the details of your employment as a bag handler etc is great, especially given the title of the piece.
the thing i like most though is that the author has given consideration to an extreme view that is usually dismissed out of hand as evil and crazy and dumb by supposedly intelligent and thoughtful people. this dismissing of other people's views without actually thinking about them creates divides of hatred based on ignorance. its the 'us and them' mentality. it also shows a worldview of "i know everything abou this" and i am not open to further ideas or evidence" (unless of course i am led like a sheep into a change of view to allow me to remain in the same flock of arts degreed morons)
as for whether the jews are up to no god, i have no idea and have other things to worry about, althoug the issue is a pretty fucking significant one in our modern history and modern psyche. but my only current thinking on jews (of which i am technically one) is that i would like to fuck a foxy little jewish princess now and again rather than this chinese monkey i'm married to, just for a change.
in sulmmary:
plus 2 for a questioning mind and a droll writing style
Submitted by tuesdaydelay (user info) at 2003-10-08 13:52:52 EDT (#)
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You're correct about them owning everything, but unless your name is Bart, Razor, PAS or LSM you're not going to get away with this type of thing.
Submitted by sam_el (user info) at 2003-10-08 13:47:16 EDT (#)
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-2 for the post. +2 for razor. How long did that take you, pal?
Submitted by PetruchioInLab at 2003-10-08 13:32:54 EDT (#)
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Razor:
Pink Floyd Rules!
Submitted by NDG at 2003-09-25 11:39:13 EDT (#)
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Funny story!
Submitted by Random Joe at 2003-09-25 11:07:56 EDT (#)
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Whilst it is racist to say Jews naturally have more business acumen, it isn't racist to say they control something or have a lot of money. If you read the post, they guy isn't even saying whether HE thinks the Jews are actually doing these things, only that he felt what he saw could be interpreted in a certain way. As for the rantings of Razor - I don't want to live in your fascist world where only pre-approved opinions are allowed. Behaving that way only makes people more likely to react against you. It's like the pthetic knee-jerk reactions I see every time someone mentions 'black'. Double standards abound, it is alright to talk about black music and black culture but if you say someone is black you're a racist. Morons.
Submitted by Insanethemind (user info) at 2003-09-25 10:59:18 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Random Joe at 2003-07-28 09:29:38 EDT (#)
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http://www.guardian.co.uk/g2/story/0,3604,1007051,00.html
Submitted by Istaros (user info) at 2003-07-21 02:27:54 EDT (#)
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Whether they were "on to it" or not, the Nazis seemed more than happy to fulfill Judaic prophecies. Or so a Rabbi would have you believe. Self-awareness is such a bizarre thing...
Submitted by squattail (user info) at 2003-07-21 02:19:02 EDT (#)
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Independance war was a preemptive strike was it? If you knew anything about history, you would know the minute israel was recognised by a UN vote (despite the fact that every single Arab nation voted against - given these votes by changing sides at the very end of world war II, before they knew the german army was losing they happily awaited hitler to come) war was declared on them by half a dozen Arab countries. They were attacked with warning. WHERE WAS THE PREEMPTIVE STRIKE? ASK THE FUCKING ARABS, THEY MADE IT. The Sanai war was a pre-emptive, by vital to prevent destruction of their country. Unlike the US, who throws troops around and has no risk of being attacked (sorry, but september 11 was not an act of war, it was not staged by a nation), Israel has a need for to defend themselves, from the 50 million regular and irregular troops of the Arab nations.
Submitted by dasteve (user info) at 2003-07-20 23:30:42 EDT (#)
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**They have had their own country for over 50 years. How many wars have they started?**
They haven't started any wars, they are called "preemptive strikes".
Submitted by Hairsphincter (user info) at 2003-07-20 20:42:26 EDT (#)
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I just had a bagel.
Submitted by squattail (user info) at 2003-07-20 09:06:49 EDT (#)
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Not only that, the reason they are most likely converging is the fact that there is there is no chain of command in judaism, the priests/rabbis don't consult bishops or anything. The indivual rabbi must find out the new general jewish policies to take home to his own synagogue.
Submitted by squattail (user info) at 2003-07-20 09:01:11 EDT (#)
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You are a cunt. Jews aren't running the world, that is the same anti-semite propaganda being preached by you cuntheads for a thousand years. I know you did this for a rise, but that is where this shit starts. Nobody starts out believing any of these fairy tales, until shitheads like yourself start hammering it into them. Then it starts seeming credible. It is not. Jews have shown this. They have had their own country for over 50 years. How many wars have they started? Maybe you start looking at pejudiced nazis like yourselves for the cause of this world's problems.
Submitted by EvilZurr (user info) at 2003-07-19 17:55:46 EDT (#)
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its as simple as this: spend too much time with a large group of people of a certain background, and you will see the stereotypes come to life, even if they arent there. your spite blinded your rage into saying some things, but in the big picture youve got some truth in there. +4 for speaking for mind, and -2 to razor for being that way. on the plus side, you now have 2500 hits...
Submitted by UncleJamima (user info) at 2003-07-18 19:37:05 EDT (#)
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Dave, shutup and stop being such a Jew about it. You're just jealous you didn't come up with the idea of Jew Island and I did. Get the dreidal out of your ass and get in the kitchen and make me a sandwhich.
Submitted by DavidAdventurer (user info) at 2003-07-18 19:31:02 EDT (#)
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Shut up, UncleJamima, you're not helping.
Submitted by UncleJamima (user info) at 2003-07-18 19:15:54 EDT (#)
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IMO, we should just create an "Island of Jew" where we could place all of them so they would not be so bothersome. +2 for having the balls to make that title.
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2003-07-18 16:35:49 EDT (#)
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Are you boys still fighting?
Submitted by holyturnip <pufdrgn1.at.aol.com> at 2003-07-18 16:29:44 EDT (#)
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Isn't "They were living there before they got kicked out by the zionists" a legitimate claim to that territory?
Submitted by DavidAdventurer (user info) at 2003-07-18 12:40:31 EDT (#)
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'The Palestinian people have no historical claim, there never was a Palestine. There was an Ottoman Empire. Then there was the British controlled "Palestinian Territories".'
OK, so you don't like the word Palestine. Strike it and substitute "Palestinian Territories" and for "Palestinians", just plain generic "Arabs" will do. Note that, in any case, I already used the more neutral term "Holy Land" as well as "Palestine".
Changing these words doesn't affect my argument at all. These people were living there just fine, then the Zionists turned up.
It is really rather irrelevant if they didn't exist as a people in ancient times. Neither did the Americans, but I don't hear you saying that it's not really your country.
Submitted by DavidAdventurer (user info) at 2003-07-18 11:40:41 EDT (#)
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About this bit:
"The root of the problem over there, like the root of almost every problem in the Middle East, is a complete inability on the part of anyone involved to let go of the past.
If you go far enough back to the past, you can justify anything you want on either side."
I'd say it's more true that if you don't go far enough back into the past, you can justify anything you want on either side. If you look at the most recent attack killing a civilian on your side, you are obviously going to think your side is right. If you look back into the past, you'll see that the Intifada is a reaction to Zionism (Arabs kill Jews because Jews killed Arabs = UNDERSTANDABLE) and Zionism was a reaction to Nazism and 19th-century events such as the Dreyfus affair (Jews kill Arabs because Christians killed Jews = UNJUSTIFIABLE). Zionism is the missing link in the chain of justification. There just isn't any serious way to justify Jews marching into Palestine and colonising it. Because you cannot justify it, your only argument is to say the root of the problem is that people can't let go of the past, and thus conveniently erase the missing link from history, much as some neo-nazis prefer to erase what you call the holocaust.
Just admit that Zionism is the shit that caused all this bloodshed in the first place,
The vicious and hateful ideology that spawned the current vicious circle of hate.
Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2003-07-18 11:35:22 EDT (#)
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Except that it WAS NEVER THEIR COUNTRY.
The Palestinian people have no historical claim, there never was a Palestine. There was an Ottoman Empire. Then there was the British controlled "Palestinian Territories".
The entire term "Palestinian People" is an invention designed to make the Jews look like oppressors.
And if you want to talk about the people who are REALLY fucking them over, why don't you talk about the Jordanians, Syrians, and militant Arab groups that have a strong interest in keeping the Palestinians destabilized so they can fight wars against Israel by proxy.
They supply them with weapons instead of food and construction equipment, they pay families of suicide bombers instead of investing in education, and they are using their "Arab brothers" as weapons.
Submitted by DavidAdventurer (user info) at 2003-07-18 11:18:29 EDT (#)
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The Intifada is Palestinians' struggle to kick out the foreign occupiers. They can't be blamed for it. That said, I feel for the civilian dead on both sides. The point is that the Israelis started the whole thing. That doesn't mean I believe "kill Israelis; they started it". All people's right to a territory comes, at the end of the day, from how long they have been there. In other words, it's when a generation has passed that the fucked up shits starts:
When the Jews first started turning up, Palestinians were justified in using all necessary means to kick them back out. One generation later, the victims of Palestinian attacks are the children of settlers, in other words true Israelis, rather than nasty foreign Zionists stealing a bit of Palestine. These people aren't to blame for their parents' actions, so you get a nasty situation is which no-one is right, but each side has totally legitimate anger against the other. As you can imagine, this is a very vicious circle and almost impossible to resolve. With each year that goes by, Israelis have a stronger claim to the territory, and the Palestinian claim becomes more historical. Rather like the weak, historical claim the Zionists originally made to justify settling Palestine and ejecting Arabs in the first place. (Which were as if Italy now claimed Europe, or the Mongols, Asia.)
You can complain about nasty Arabs killing Jews with their intifada as much as you like, but they never killed a single Jew back in the days when Jews minded their own business and kept out of other people's fucking countries.
Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2003-07-18 10:23:41 EDT (#)
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Datsteve, I don't see the contradiction. I don't hate Arabs. I don't even have anything against Islam.
I do, however, believe that the Palestinians have brought this situation upon themselves based upon their RECENT ACTIONS, and therefore I do not feel sorry for them as a whole. The appointment of Abbas as PM is the first positive step they've taken in years, and I applaud it. It's good to have someone making decisions that's not a street thug like Arafat.
Of course I believe it is a tragedy every single time a child dies.
Now, Mr. Hatemonger, I have a couple of points on which I wish to enlighten you.
Number One -
I was raised one part Jewish, one part Native American, and two parts hippie. I have, for most of my life, been a bleeding heart. I felt terribly for the Palestinians, and was ashamed to be part Jewish every time I thought about what was going on over in Israel.
So what happened? I went to college and majored in history. I learned volumes of information about this conflict that I had been totally unaware of.
The root of the problem over there, like the root of almost every problem in the Middle East, is a complete inability on the part of anyone involved to let go of the past.
If you go far enough back to the past, you can justify anything you want on either side.
That dictionary definition of Zionism seems to leave out a lot of the things you've been saying it means. Your claims of genocide are totally baseless. Yes, there are Israelis killing Palestinians. Yes, of course there have been atrocities. Every death, in fact, is totally sad. The vast majority of those deaths, however, are caused by the Palestinian intifadeh. How many Palestinians were being killed by Israelis BEFORE that started? Hamas has said that their goal is to intentionally target civilians, and that they will eventually kill every Israeli man, woman, and child.
Submitted by dasteve (user info) at 2003-07-17 17:01:33 EDT (#)
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Razor,
Are you sure you meant this line?
"And anyone who says that I have anything against Arabs is a total fool, I've NEVER said that."
Because this reply seems to contradict you.
**Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2003-05-01 10:41:25 (#)
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I don't even know how anyone can possibly be so dumb.
Are there really people out here who feel bad for the Palestinians?
Show me where the country Palestine has ***** EVER ***** existed on a map.
Let me clue you in on something. The Palestinians are fucking Syrians. They are Syrian Arabs who live in Israel.
The whole "Palestinian People" is a total fabrication, and any educated person who has done even a minimal amount of real research into the situation over there knows it.
The Jews made the desert blossom over there, and as soon as it began to turn into a nice place, the Arabs got jealous, and have been trying to snatch the land from them.**
I lost a lot of respect for you when you originally posted this:
"Are there really people out here who feel bad for the Palestinians? "
The simple answer is yes. Whenever a child is gunned down in the street, and you are human (and not blinded by hate) you will feel bad. That child's race shouldn't matter.
Submitted by DavidAdventurer (user info) at 2003-07-17 14:27:00 EDT (#)
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Razor, you've been totally blinded by your upbringing. Where did I say Jews wanted to take over the world? They just want to take over the whole Holy Land.
I said a lot about nazism too. I don't see you saying "that's crap, you have no references". It's just general knowledge.
Here's a dictionary definition of Zionism: http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=zionism
Add to it the fact establishing a homeland for yourself in someone else's country is going to lead to bloodshed, then put the consequences of this side by side with nazism, and you pretty much have my previous post. I notice that for several posts now, no-one has actually contradicted any factual detail or logical conclusion I have made. You have simply called me a nazi, anti-semite, spreader of hate, yahda yahda yahda, who's got his facts wrong (without saying which), who doesn't use references (but neither do you), etc.
And talking about spreading hate. What is it about this debate seems to switch people's mouths onto cliché mode? The struggle against hate and all that crap. What's wrong with hate? Don't you hate nazis? No? Don't fucking believe you. Of course you do. So you're a hate-spreader. Don't you agree it's such a pointless insult?
And I never said the Jews were bad people. Want to know whether I think they're bad as people though? Well, I knew several at school, and they were nice, intelligent guys apart from one beardy zionist arsehole. Moving on...
Do you really believe the Israeli army has committed no atrocities against Palestinians, especially given the climate of hate over there? Do you believe it is even possible for an army to be in such a hostile territory for several decades without doing so? If you do, you have a rather over-optimistic view of armies. And every attack carried out by Jews in Occupied Palestine is their fault and their fault alone, and self-defence is no excuse at all, because they quite simply had no business being there in the first place.
Nator, I know you know nazism. The point was to draw parallels.
Submitted by K.M (user info) at 2003-07-17 13:30:19 EDT (#)
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what is he lying about razor?
he isnt spreading hate!
Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2003-07-17 12:58:42 EDT (#)
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David, you continue to spread flat out lies. Why not just post a copy of the Protocols of the Elders of Zion and leave it at that? Maybe then everyone will believe that Jews are intent on taking over the world.
Of course, because everything you say has no references worth quoting, people will probably believe you and say "You're right, the Jews ARE bad people."
Congratulations on spreading hate.
And anyone who says that I have anything against Arabs is a total fool, I've NEVER said that.
Submitted by Nator (user info) at 2003-07-17 12:32:40 EDT (#)
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Davidadventurer - Ok, thanks. I knew what nazism is though, thank you.
Submitted by HolyTurnip (user info) at 2003-07-16 18:31:06 EDT (#)
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Regarding the Jews dominating banking interests...
Exodus 22:25 "If you lend money to any of My people who are poor among you, you shall not be like a moneylender to him, you shall not charge him interest."
Leviticus 25:36 "Take no usury or interest from him, but fear your God, that your brother may live among you"
Yes, the Jews ARE just like any other race and should be treated as such. Which means that they shouldn't be allowed to kick another race out of their homeland and then kill the hell out of them, and they shouldn't be allowed to play the Race Card against anyone that disagrees with them.
Fuck all yall.
Submitted by HolyTurnip (user info) at 2003-07-16 18:23:15 EDT (#)
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Judoka sez that it's ignorant to think that a people are all alike because they're of one ethnic group. Isn't an ethnic group defined as a group of people that share beliefs and culture? To wit, people who are prone to act alike? Also, it's ironic that he says one is ignorant to see an ethnic group as being all alike, when he refers to the arabs as "vicious fools"?
Why do the Jews need their own homeland? The Zionist movement came out of the same crap that led to the Berlin Wall, and it's about as valid. There are lots of people that don't have a homeland (native americans among them) that you don't hear crying about it. I'm sick of hearing that if I disagree with a Jew that they deserve special treatment as a race because of the Holocaust that I'm an "Anti-Semite" Technically shouldn't "Anti-Semite" apply to all the Semitic races? And so shouldn't Judoka and Razor be "Anti-Semites" for hating the arabs?
But who am I to talk, I'm an "Anti-Semite" because I think that the Jews are fulla shit for kicking the Arabs out of their homeland and that the Arabs are fulla shit for leaving in the first place and now for being violent and stupid about it.
Fuck all y'all, and pass the oil. I'm giving this post a +2 to counteract Razor's monkeyshit.
Submitted by DavidAdventurer (user info) at 2003-07-16 17:23:39 EDT (#)
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Anyway, this thread has moved to http://www.ubersite.com/cgi-bin/message_get.cgi?message=105830905659612285
Submitted by DavidAdventurer (user info) at 2003-07-16 17:09:49 EDT (#)
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"I don't know wtf Zionism is so I'll just stfu."
Nator, Zionism is a Jewish movement that began in the late 19th century in response to growing anti-Jewish racism. It is the idea that Jews are the chosen race and have the right to march into Palestine and claim it as their homeland, kicking out or killing anyone they find there, on the basis that they once lived there and that they needed living space.
Nazism was a German movement that said the Germans were the master race and had the right to march into any surrounding territories, on the basis that they needed lebensraum or living space, kicking out or killing anyone they found there or indeed in the territory they already controlled.
The Germans marched into Poland, France etc, and deported, killed etc, people they didn't like, which included gays, Jews, gypsies, radicals, and more.
If you criticised nazism, you were just a communist and they wanted to kill you.
The Jews marched into Palestine and evicted, killed etc, people they felt didn't have a right to be there, i.e. non-Jews, i.e., the Palestinian people, Arabs originally from Syria.
If you criticise Zionism, you are just an anti-Semite and they want to kill you.
In conclusion, Zionism and nazism are of course not the same thing, but they are the same fundamental attitude: we are the best race, and we are going to fuck anyone who gets in the way of our interests. As Judoka said, it is self-protection above all, and fuck the rest.
Nazism is essentially dead. However Jews are still killing Arabs in Occupied Palestine. Israelis and Palestinians see each other as subhuman, and like to murder each other. Palestinians are so desperate that a lot of their attacks are mere stone or molotov cocktail throwing. Their only effective attacks are suicide bombings. Israel is much more powerful. They have a modern, rich, well-organised state. Their soldiers have been known to fire shots around Palestinian schools to enrage the pupils and make them come out to the barbed wire and throw stones at the well-armed troops, who then mow them down in self-defence.
I hope you have an idea about what Zionism is about now.
Submitted by JohnWilkesBooth (user info) at 2003-07-16 16:40:32 EDT (#)
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Hey, before you keep insulting me, why dont you read my second post responding to this criticism.
Submitted by Nator (user info) at 2003-07-16 16:26:21 EDT (#)
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I don't know wtf Zionism is so I'll just stfu..
Submitted by Creepo8 (user info) at 2003-07-16 15:35:06 EDT (#)
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I wanna give you something to think about. BACK IN THE DAY, before a lot of shit went down there was organized religion. There was Christians, Jews, ect. The Jewish religion was the only organization that required the men to be literate. So these men already have a skill that most people don't. That's the funny thing about learning, once you start, it's easier and easier (well for some people not this idiot fuck who thinks that jews are going to run the world just cause he had to carry some bags and he's pissed that he's the poor shit that had to do it). So it's quite natural to think of the most learned group progressing the furthest. no?
Submitted by turveytopsy (user info) at 2003-07-16 13:09:54 EDT (#)
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Submitted by tartpumper (user info) at 2003-07-16 10:51:32 EDT (#)
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There shouldnt even need to be a post like this. Jews, europeans, americans, canadians, africans, chinese, japanese, etc, we are all exactly the same, HUMANS!
Except for pakis and arabs, they should be drowned.
Submitted by DavidAdventurer (user info) at 2003-07-16 06:31:56 EDT (#)
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"what, you guys are not going to say anything back?
looks like you cant refute what he is saying."
Yep, looks like it. He's given up winning with arguments and resorted to just calling be a nazi on other threads.
Submitted by Hairsphincter (user info) at 2003-07-16 03:01:42 EDT (#)
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Jul 15 1205
In a letter to the French clergy, Pope Innocent III declares that the Jews are consigned to continual subjugation just for crucifying our Lord and Savior. In the words of the Pope, the Jews "shall not dare raise their neck, bowed under the yoke of perpetual slavery."
Ahh.. Catholocism. Fucking left foot Maria worshippers are all burning in hell... well at least accoring to Martin Luther (not King... the Protestant).
Submitted by CynicallyCorrect (user info) at 2003-07-16 02:01:45 EDT (#)
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Im Jewish. I agree with alot of what DavidA had to say. Im sorry that I dont belive in Zionism, it just seems ridiculous. Is there really a designated homeland for any group of people? Not really. So why should I feel any different about a homeland for myself. I DONT hate arabs, I DONT fear Nazis, I KNOW that there are alot of my fellow Jews in showbiz and I dont deny it. By the way, being a Jew doesnt mean blind support for zionism, and I hate that this is the way the post makes us sound.
Submitted by distressedjester (user info) at 2003-07-16 00:59:53 EDT (#)
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Hah, razor...for a sec i thought that this post actually had 900 something real replys.
Submitted by EndMyPain (user info) at 2003-07-15 22:54:26 EDT (#)
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i had relatives from germany who had the last name Weiss, which a lot of jewish people had. The nazis usually just killed people based on their last name. i aint too fond of nazis.
And i automatically hate people who mention 9/11. who gives a fuck anymore. we missed the chance to kill bin laden when he wasnt hiding.
Submitted by Hairsphincter (user info) at 2003-07-15 22:28:19 EDT (#)
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But I don't understand the Jewish media rant - Rupert Murdoch is not Jewish, he's Protestant.
And if you look at American jouralists who had dissenting (nearly pro-Iraqi) views about the recent war, you will notice many of them are indeed Jewish... does that mean that the Jewish tradition provokes fair journalism? www.fair.org
Noam Chomsky anyone?
Submitted by Hairsphincter (user info) at 2003-07-15 22:26:11 EDT (#)
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David A - I do have to agree with one of your points, from living in the middle east (Dubai) and travelling a fair bit, I do know from anecdotal and empirical evidence that most of the hatred of the US I have discussed with Arabs has been directed at (what they percieve) as a pro-Israel bias from the US administrations.
Just what I have experienced, guys!
Submitted by Hairsphincter (user info) at 2003-07-15 22:09:12 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Hairsphincter (user info) at 2003-07-15 22:07:54 (#)
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Echt wahr? Bloß daß sie wissen, es gibt es viele verkerzungen auf Deutsch, b.z.w. STASI, SCHLADO und SCHNIPOSA, auch.
Danke für's gespräch.
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Submitted by DavidAdventurer (user info) at 2003-07-15 19:58:06 (#)
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As a German speaker, you should know that Nazi is actually a contraction of NAtional-SoZIalistische deutsche Arbeiter Partei. You know, that party Hitler belonged to?
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Submitted by Hairsphincter (user info) at 2003-07-15 19:34:46 (#)
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OK, yes, as a German speaker, I will agree that "Nazi" is a contraction of "Nazionalismus", the German word for nationalism, ergo a Zionist is a Nazi, in the strictest sense of the word.
But the word "Nazi" has taken on its own meaning apart from the strict literal sense.
You have explained that you are an attention whore and you wanted to be noticed, but you have to be careful of another two syllabled word: Karma.
Submitted by RWang (user info) at 2003-07-15 21:58:31 EDT (#)
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Its pretty obvious why everyone hates jews so fucking much.
1)They were the first to be monotheistic- that was pretty odd to the world back then.
2)They were money loaners and banker. We all hated those guys becuz of the shitty economy in europe back then.
3)Jews were accused of killing Jesus from the romans.
4)Jews had no homeland.
So I can see why some morons may think that jews control the world and hate them. To them i say fuck you.
Submitted by iddqd (user info) at 2003-07-15 21:38:53 EDT (#)
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"As to the Xenophobic rantings about our ( the jews) purported controll of the media, finance, the legal system or your aunt sophie, it is my suggestion that you see a psychiatrist promptly. He may be jewish, but he'll still help you." i slightly disagree with this yidele, but thats a fucking great line!
keep em coming.
hey,hey,hey davida dont start swinging at me, im not touching this argument - i made an opinion about my perception of the relative controversy of the actual post. i think that its quite a pedestrian little post, if you want to read "war and peace" into it, then thats your problem.
stay off my back.
Submitted by hidden101 (user info) at 2003-07-15 18:12:30 EDT (#)
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you people actually listen to Anal Cunt?
WOW.
some of their shit makes me laugh, but DAHAM are they bad....
Submitted by JohnWilkesBooth (user info) at 2003-07-15 17:46:56 EDT (#)
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But... then again, +2 for anal cunt references showing up on this thread.
Submitted by JohnWilkesBooth (user info) at 2003-07-15 17:41:43 EDT (#)
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Holy shit, i go to sleep for one night and i wake up with a 1000+ hit post?
-2 to myself for causing this thread.
Submitted by DavidAdventurer (user info) at 2003-07-15 16:34:40 EDT (#)
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"It really is news to me that Jews own everything. I'm Jewish. Where the fuck are my millions? I don't own a fucking car! Claiming that Jews own the world is like claiming that black people have it better than white people.
David, nothing incendiary about Booth's post? "The Nazis May Have Been on to Something." Oh no, nothing incendiary about that at all.
Fucking idiot. What the hell is wrong with you?"
I wish people would actually read the debate instead of arriving with ready-prepared opinions based on the title of the original post.
Who said Booth's post wasn't incendiary? I went so far as to call it "shocking". Here's the whole sentence:
"I would never have made the original post in this thread, especially not with its shocking title"
and also:
"Apart from the deliberately taboo headline, this post is not actually racist"
And from iddqd: "the purely attention-seeking heading"
Who told you the post wasn't incendiary? The voices in your head? It sure as hell wasn't me.
It's off-subject, but saying Jews are better off is not like saying blacks are better off than whites. It's more like saying whites are better off than blacks. You don't have a car. Well, neither do I, but I am still absurdly privileged compared to most people on the planet.
But anyway, I'll quote myself again:
"I personally don't give a shit about the exact percentage of Jews in the US, how stingy they are, or how much money or power they have in any context except for one: American foreign policy regarding Occupied Palestine. On this single issue, Jews have enough influence to make the US support Israeli zionism (nazism), and this is all I am concerned about. The rest is as irrelevant to me as Americans arguing about whether nigger and nigga are the same thing."
Submitted by K.M (user info) at 2003-07-15 16:28:21 EDT (#)
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what, you guys are not going to say anything back?
looks like you cant refute what he is saying.
Submitted by Judoka (user info) at 2003-07-15 16:15:36 EDT (#)
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Yidele. You are correct, of course.
Shalom
Judoka
Submitted by Alabama (user info) at 2003-07-15 16:13:18 EDT (#)
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It really is news to me that Jews own everything. I'm Jewish. Where the fuck are my millions? I don't own a fucking car! Claiming that Jews own the world is like claiming that black people have it better than white people.
David, nothing incendiary about Booth's post? "The Nazis May Have Been on to Something." Oh no, nothing incendiary about that at all.
Fucking idiot. What the hell is wrong with you?
Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2003-07-15 16:02:40 EDT (#)
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I think Yidele makes a good point. We've covered this enough times already.
You have some terrible misunderstandings about what is going on over there.
Do some research.
Submitted by yidele (user info) at 2003-07-15 15:57:07 EDT (#)
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I can see this thread is quickly heading off into known territory. I for one am not going to participate in it any further, as I've already discussed the history, culture & sociopolitical implications of Eretz Yisroel on a number of post on this site & they adress ALL of the points misapprehended & missrepresented by David. If DavidAdventurer wishes to have an issue-based debate then I'll be happy to have one on some other thread. As it is, the only issues I am noticing in this thread is some obviously unresolved xenophobia. It is my humble suggestion that you do some research about the facts of history before you start spouting off about ANYTHING, especially the politics & history of the middle east. As to the Xenophobic rantings about our ( the jews) purported controll of the media, finance, the legal system or your aunt sophie, it is my suggestion that you see a psychiatrist promptly. He may be jewish, but he'll still help you.
Submitted by DavidAdventurer (user info) at 2003-07-15 15:52:28 EDT (#)
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"think of it as a self protective measure. I am a full blooded Jew and it's me not y'all that gets shipped to the ovens the next time a jerk off manipulates a gullible public into wholesale slaughter of an entire ethnic group."
So it's about paranoia. No-one gives a shit about Jews. If a jerk decides to get people to slaughter an ethnic group in America it's far more likely to be Arabs or blacks.
Political idea should be based on fact and logic, not "self-protective measures". The latter way of thinking is the road to zionism, nazism and the like. The German Jews did indeed have a lot of money, and the German gentiles did what was in their best interests: take their money, homes and lives away from them. But it's not enough for something to be good for you, or great for your protection. It's not enough. It doesn't justify it. To test out whether a view is justified, always ask yourself this question: "Could I possible believe what I believe if I were another person?". If you are a man, ask yourself if you could possibly think rape is OK if your were a woman. If you are white, ask yourself if you could possibly think slavery was OK if you were black. If you are German, ask yourself if you could possibly think Jews are rats to be exterminated if you were a Jew. If you a Jew, ask yourself if you could possibly think murderous zionism was OK if you were an Arab.
Ask yourself the last question. If you are unable to, I cannot help you. I just hope you never have a position of power over a minority.
Submitted by DavidAdventurer (user info) at 2003-07-15 15:38:14 EDT (#)
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CynicallyCorrect and K.M, thanks for supporting and understanding me.
Razor, thanks for arguing against me with facts and logic.
My history of Israel is just my general knowledge. I think a lot of it comes from a series of documentaries I once saw, with copious interviews with people on both sides. I was struck by footage of the classrooms in those territories: history being taught in distorted, but completely opposite ways in both Jewish and Palestinian schools. But most of all, it was the maps. The Jewish maps that denied the existence of anything called Palestine and the Palestinian maps that denied the existence of anything called Israel. It's amazing how one people's weltanschauung can be so different from another's. I was left with the impression the Palestinians' story was the slightly less distorted one. They were definitely driven from their homes and Jews are still trying to make settlements. Some Jews were no doubt already there, but there has been a huge influx since then. Zionism is as evil an ideology as you can get: a Palestinian whose family has lived in the Holy Land for several generations can be removed and replaced by an African-American claiming to be Jewish. The latter person is then a citizen, and not the former.
Sorry if I implied there was a Palestinian state. It is indeed true that before the Jews invaded, the Palestinian people were dominated by other foreign powers such as the British, which is also terrible. The point is that these people were living there, and then the Jews decided they didn't deserve to. I deliberately use the term Lebensraum to describe this policy, because that is what it is, and to highlight the parallels with Nazism.
We can argue about how bad on an attack on another people has to be for it to be called genocide, if you like. But I prefer to focus on the fact that what zionism has done to Palestine is an atrocity, and what's more, an atrocity cause by a belief (zionism) with great similarities to Nazism.
You try to explain away Syrian Arab/Palestinian deaths, but at the end of the day they were killed by zionists. It just wouldn't have happened if Jews had kept their hands off Palestine, just as the N Irish Troubles just wouldn't have happened if Britain had not annexed Ireland.
I am under no false impressions about Osama bin Laden. I know what he is, I know what Bush is, I know what zionism is, I know what Hitler was. There are lessons to be learnt from all these misguided people. No doubt if I quoted the Bible you'd say I was a Christian and if I quoted Mandela you'd say I was black.
"Yes, Israel is a sore point with them, but their main sticking point is that the West rules the world and they do not. End of story."
It's nice to say End of story and avoid serious argument, like Judoka, but I'm not going to let you. As an American, it makes you feel good to say "we rule and they don't", but it's more than a little juvenile. There are serious issues here, and trying to explain away everyone else's views as just jealousy is not that much better that explaining them away as the devil's work, in Bush or Judoka style.
One could equally say that Jews in Nazi Germany should have shut up because they were just jealous that the gentile Germans ruled and they didn't, so they should have just stopped complaining and got into those gas chambers. Do you believe that? Of course not. So don't believe the Third World should accept what America and the west do to them either. The struggle against injustice is not jealousy.
iddqd, thanks for the chill-out advice, but life isn't a Hollywood film with good guys and bad guys. I don't actually see any good guys in this situation at all.
Judoka, thanks for nothing.
Submitted by Judoka (user info) at 2003-07-15 15:35:46 EDT (#)
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So many ill informed morons Cynical and...the other guy. Look, you should read Razors post. I didn't have the time to refute DavidA's post, so I wrote a quick post and I let my emotions get the better of me. I figured that I would come back to it and give that scurrulous piece of shit the treatment it so richly deserved.. Now it seems that I do not need to. Razor took care of buisness quite nicely.
I fully admit to being a ardent Zionist, just think of it as a self protective measure. I am a full blooded Jew and it's me not y'all that gets shipped to the ovens the next time a jerk off manipulates a gullible public into wholesale slaughter of an entire ethnic group.
-Judoka (Jew-do-ka...get it)
PS Razor-nicely done
Submitted by K.M (user info) at 2003-07-15 15:05:32 EDT (#)
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im with cynically correct on this too.
people should not get so upset, i understand what DavidA is saying, and let me tell you that he is NOT saying that it was right, in any way, for the nazis to do what they did.
Submitted by CynicallyCorrect (user info) at 2003-07-15 14:47:50 EDT (#)
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I dont think DavidA has written one thing that Ive disagreed with. Judako, you are a blind follower of zionism, and its shows as your last post said nothing to contradict the rant DavidA gave. The ideology takes the place of logic. You go away.
Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2003-07-15 14:38:33 EDT (#)
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David, you're wrong on a number of counts.
Where do you get your history of Israel? From the same place you got your Osama Bin Laden quotes?
Forget for the moment that I am half-jewish.
I majored in history, and quite frankly, you're just wrong about what's going on in Israel.
You have the history all flubbered if you think that Israel is in any way an occupying power.
For one thing, Jews have always lived there.
The government that has controlled that area over the past few hundred years was either The Ottoman Empire, The British Empire, or the Israeli Democracy. Never has there been a Palestinian government of any kind. And I don't hear any of the Palestinians claiming to be the return of the Ottoman Empire.
In fact, there is no such thing as the Palestinian people. It's just made up. I challenge you to find a single historical reference to the Palestinian people before modern times. They are simply Syrian Arabs who tried to move in and claim land that the Jews turned from desert into lush farmland.
The biggest mistake Israel ever made was to let them come back after they ran away during the war the Arabs waged to push the Jews into the sea in 1948.
And from where do you get your claims of genocide? That's absolutely asinine, and an insult to every people that have ever been a victim of it.
You want to see genocide? Go look at Rwanda. Read up on what the Nazis did to the Jews.
Any Syrian Arabs that have died in Israel have either blown themselves up, been combat casualties, or been collateral damage, which, despite how awful it is, is an unavoidable side effect of war. And this is in stark contrast to the Syrian Arabs who think that blowing up innocent civilians means you've scored more points.
And... really man... don't fool yourself on the whole Osama thing.
Yes, Israel is a sore point with them, but their main sticking point is that the West rules the world and they do not. End of story.
Submitted by iddqd (user info) at 2003-07-15 14:22:32 EDT (#)
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this has blown waaaaay out of proportion.
davidadventurer needs to check his shit, cos you dont really want to be defending nazis - they were the bad guys, no questions.
the original post wasnt particularly anti-semitic, but this dicussion has kinda gone that way, and thats a direction i dont think any of us want to take...
chill the fuck out.
"worlds biggest dreidel up your ass"-thats fucking priceless, good one yidele.
Submitted by Judoka (user info) at 2003-07-15 14:08:10 EDT (#)
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DavidA you are a moron. Go away.
Submitted by acrog (user info) at 2003-07-15 14:05:23 EDT (#)
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Nazis are stupid.
+2 for Hidden's Anal Cunt quote (have you ever seen them live?)
The Jewish community being as successful as they are is a prime example of a repressed minority handlin' thay binazz.
You don't see a lot of Jews on welfare in the U.S.
You don't see them running around saying "HELP, HELP I"M BEING REPRESSED!" "PAY ME!" Like many other minority groups do. They took the initiative and took care of what they needed to.
Race is a social term. It's not an excuse.
Submitted by hidden101 (user info) at 2003-07-15 13:59:33 EDT (#)
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Submitted by DavidAdventurer (user info) at 2003-07-15 13:47:45 (#)
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Murphy1844, it galvanised such a reaction because Jews have made it taboo to criticism them. Disagreeing with a Jew is anti-semitism; just like criticising women is sexism and criticising men is anti-sexism. In this sort of debate where certain groups manage to impose rules on what is allowed to be said, those who dare to break the rules are despised.
OHHHHH, OK. gee, no wonder!
YOU STUPID MOTHERFUCKER. YOU'RE DEFENDING THIS ADVOCATE OF MASS GENOCIDE??? PUT YOURSELF IN THEIR SHOES. WHAT IF YOU SAW YOUR MOTHER GET COOKED IN AN OVEN FOR NO PARTICULAR OFFENSE, OTHER THAN SHE WAS JUST MINDING HER OWN BUSINESS AND SOME GERMAN GUY THROWS HER IN AN OVEN? WOULDN'T YOU BE A LITTLE PISSED OFF ABOUT THIS POST, TOO???
Submitted by DavidAdventurer (user info) at 2003-07-15 13:47:45 EDT (#)
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Murphy1844, it galvanised such a reaction because Jews have made it taboo to criticism them. Disagreeing with a Jew is anti-semitism; just like criticising women is sexism and criticising men is anti-sexism. In this sort of debate where certain groups manage to impose rules on what is allowed to be said, those who dare to break the rules are despised.
Whilst I would never have made the original post in this thread, especially not with its shocking title, I must point out again that it is not a particularly racist post and not the expression of utter evil that the judokas and Razors of the world think it is.
I personally don't give a shit about the exact percentage of Jews in the US, how stingy they are, or how much money or power they have in any context except for one: American foreign policy regarding Occupied Palestine. On this single issue, Jews have enough influence to make the US support Israeli zionism (nazism), and this is all I am concerned about. The rest is as irrelevant to me as Americans arguing about whether nigger and nigga are the same thing.
Judoka, do you have to quote my entire post each time? It makes this page incredibly long.
So I justify lies and hate, do I?
What lies? That America supports zionism? That zionism is anti-Palestinian? That Muslim solidarity equates being anti-Palestinian with being anti-Muslim? That being anti-Muslim is likely to get you into shit with radical Muslims? That radical Muslims flew aeroplanes at you on 11/9/2001? Tell me which of these obvious statements in the chain of events is a lie according to you.
Hate? It's not a matter of justifying it but understanding it. I understand ("justify" if you will) American hate of anyone they see as connected to Al Qaeda, whilst disagreeing with your imperial escapade in Iraq. I understand ("justify" if you will) Palestinians and their Muslim brothers hating the people guilty of genocide against them, whilst disagreeing with their attempts to give you a taste of your own medicine.
"Putting their political agenda side by side with their religous beliefs. That will help them look less like religous terrorists. And you cite that as support, good grief are you drunk."
I cite it as supporting the fact that they regard their political agenda as part and parcel of their religious beliefs. No alcohol required for that.
"What genocide?"
In search of lebensraum, the Jews raped a nation called Palestine. Anything Palestinians do to repel the occupiers is to be expected, don't you think?
And how can you blame neighbouring Arab states?
Imagine that Canada lauched a sneak attack that knocked out your defences, and then started a land invasion moving southwards massacring each town, and refugees trying to enter Mexico were turned away at the border (which would be a funny role reversal), thus abandoning them to the ravenous Canadian hordes. Who would be guilty of genocide? Canada, for fuck's sake. What you said is the equivalent of saying that Mexico would be the guilty party. Get a grip.
"Won't listen to me? Listen to Osama bin Laden then:
-On there is someone I can count on to be object and bias free. Shithead."
Thank you, dick for brains. You fell into the trap of not even reading my quotation just because it was by someone you demonise. Someone whom it is taboo to quote. You may have noticed I don't care about breaking taboos. My point wasn't that Osama is great therefore what he says is right, but that he of all people is not going to be someone who minces his words when it comes to saying who he hates. Believe me; this isn't the sort of guy who just bottles it up.
I could quite easily have quoted GW Bush on the importance of properly chewing pretzels, without respecting him either.
For that matter, I could have quoted Hitler to support my theory that the nazis hated Jews. Doesn't make me a nazi either.
Note on how I found that quotation. I searched for "Osama bin Laden message full text" and the first page I clicked on had him defending Palestine. And yet you still think Palestine has nothing to do with it all. Palestine is <strong>the</strong> issue for Muslims today. How can you be so blinkered?
"Radical Muslims see Israel and the US as an axis of evil, in each other pockets, and virtually indistinguishable, thus making the US a legitimate target to punish for the undeniable crimes of Zionism and liberate Palestine. Have you really not noticed this?
-Bullshit propaganda"
In what way bullshit propaganda? In that the US and Israel are not actually evil but really nice folks? OK, you can argue that if you like, but the point was "Radical Muslims see" things to be so. How can you possibly doubt this? Read any Muslim website, talk to any Muslim. They don't stop going on and on about it. They believe in the US-Israel axis of evil just as Americans believe in the Arab-N Korea axis of evil. Whether each side is right or not is not the point. The point is that they believe it and that this makes them each want to kill the other side.
It's all rather like Protestants and Catholics in N Ireland, or rival mafia families. One side hurts the other and then things escalate. Thoughtful people on each side wish it would all end, and thoughtless people on each side say "Kill! Kill the evil ones! We kill them for what they have done to us, and they kill us because they are just evil". This incredibly simplistic belief is found in every conflict, even amongst otherwise intelligent people, and you are expressing it right now. You are no better than Bush and Osama: you have the same mentality.
You say "my" site is biased. I know! That's the point! I didn't put it forward as a source of information about the world in general, but simply informative about the Muslim world outlook. I could just have easily have linked to or quoted from CNN, a US government document or a US pro-war website in order to make a point about how American hawks see the world situation, without for a moment agreeing with it or considering it unbiased.
You call Palestinians and their supporters fools for their futile bombings in Occupied Palestine. I'm sure that in my above hypothetical Canadian invasion, you wouldn't be against throwing stones or bombs at the advancing troops. You would even consider it heroic. The Canadians would see it as futile and foolish. You would both be right. Palestinian children throw stones and bombs at Israeli military, who mow them down. Palestinians consider it heroic. You see it as futile and foolish. You are both right.
"You are not unitelligent if you disagree with me. You are a neo-Nazi because you blindly buy into the lies that are promugated by the anti-Semites out there.
-In summary take your biased webpages and your anti-Semitic attitudes and kindly, go fuck yourself."
Stop being silly and offensive.
Submitted by hidden101 (user info) at 2003-07-15 13:41:30 EDT (#)
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"1) you're a moron and a troll
2) if you should ever have the temerity to suggest something like that to my face, you'd be likely to wake up in intensive care with the world's largest dreidel sticking out of your ass."
now THAT'S funny! yidele looks like he can rumble. i wouldn't fuck with him.
anyway, have another -2 from me, shitdick. i happen to like the Jews.
and for the record- Hitler was NOT a sensitive man, despite what Anal Cunt says....
Submitted by nemo (user info) at 2003-07-15 13:32:28 EDT (#)
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Heil myself, heil to me
I'm the kraut whose out to change our history
Heil myself, raise your hand
There's no greater dictator in the land
Everything I do, I do for you
If you're looking for a war, here's World War 2
Heil myself, raise your beer
Ev'ry hotsy totsy nazi stand and cheer!
Submitted by Manfre (user info) at 2003-07-15 12:21:18 EDT (#)
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Wow 966 heat... Think this is how much heat was used in the jew killing ovens? I doubt it. Its probably a prime temperature to stick up your ass though... Lets find out...
Submitted by Murphy1844 (user info) at 2003-07-15 12:17:43 EDT (#)
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I must be a complete idiot for never having heard that Jews control a disproportionate part of the media and/or banks. This is a first for me and this post presents no evidence, or even compelling evidence, to support that point.
I'm not angry, I'm not frustrated, I'm not laughing... I just don't get how this galvanized such a reaction???
Can someone explain please?
Submitted by yidele (user info) at 2003-07-15 12:16:33 EDT (#)
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Yeah, the nazi were onto something. It's called a death wish. Please notice that most of the top Nazi got what they so fervently wished for - death.
Today various morons both in the states & in europe are voicing simmilar sentiments & it is to be expected - morons will be morons. latest figures put the jewish ( meaning self-identified as jewish or of jewish religion ) to be somewhere around 2% of the US population - it's even less than that in europe. Here in Poland, a country that once had 10% of its population praying in synagogues, there are some 5000-8000 jews left, including me. This does not stop the local antisemites from claiming that Poland is controlled by jews, claiming that jews have too much influnece or other such nonsense made obvious by the fact that we are present in Poland ( a country of some 40 000 000) in numbers smaller than the margin of error for the last census. Fact is, some people will simply never be satisfied - they will be sure to find someone else to blame & label as a jew even after we are gone.
We are not surprised that morons, xenophobes & conspiracy nuts of various stripe are constantly trying to convince the world that jews are evil, have too much influence, are penurious, shifty, and out for christian blood - this theme has been pretty much a constant one ever since the christian church as defined by Paul came into existance. I am not going to spend more time on this thread, as it's an obvious troll - I just want you to know that:
1) you're a moron and a troll
2) if you should ever have the temerity to suggest something like that to my face, you'd be likely to wake up in intensive care with the world's largest dreidel sticking out of your ass.
yidele
Submitted by Judoka (user info) at 2003-07-15 12:14:01 EDT (#)
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>Judoka, just as being an America total skewed your willingness to accept facts in our last debate, your being Jewish now skews your willingness to accept facts on Israel.
-Just as your skewed Eurocentric view on the world allows you to justify lies and hate.
>Here is a typical Muslim site: http://johnw.host.sk/sitemap.htm
Notice that it is divided into sections, each being something they consider fundamental to being a Muslim. Alongside such sections as the "Quran" and "Islam and its pillars", we find two others: "Israeli War Crimes" and "America & War on Terror". Doesn't the fact they put these two things on the same level as their holy book and the foundations of their belief tell you anything about the importance they give these issues?
-Putting their political agenda side by side with their religous beliefs. That will help them look less like religous terrorists. And you cite that as support, good grief are you drunk.
>A key part of being a radical Muslim in the modern world is hating Israel for their genocide and hating America for supporting them. Had you really missed that?? Support for the desperate (and, in their view, martyred) Palestinian people is the cornerstone of international Muslim solidarity.
-What genocide? The Arabs who didn't listen to their corrupt leaders in 1948 and stayed within the borders of Israel proper enjoy the same rights and freedoms as do their fellow Jewish citizens. Just because the Arab/Muslim states surrounding Israel did not take in their "brother" Arab refugees and decided to leave them at Israels border like a geo-political leg trap, the blame falls on Israel. What bullshit. Furthermore, most of what is now Jordan was supposed to be Israel, most of Jordans population is Palestian in origin.
>Won't listen to me? Listen to Osama bin Laden then:
-On there is someone I can count on to be object and bias free. Shithead.
<cite date="12/Nov/2002">
"What [US President George] Bush, the pharaoh of this age, was doing in terms of killing our sons in Iraq, and what Israel, the United States' ally, was doing in terms of bombing houses that shelter old people, women and children with US-made aircraft in Palestine were sufficient to prompt the sane among your rulers to distance themselves from this criminal gang.
"Our kinfolk in Palestine have been slain and severely tortured for nearly a century.
"If we defend our people in Palestine, the world becomes agitated and allies itself against Muslims, unjustly and falsely, under the pretence of fighting terrorism.
"What do your governments want by allying themselves with the criminal gang in the White House against Muslims?
"Do your governments not know that the White House gangsters are the biggest butchers of this age?
"[US Defence Secretary Donald] Rumsfeld, the butcher of Vietnam, killed more than two million people, not to mention those he wounded.
"[US Vice-President Dick] Cheney and [US Secretary of State Colin] Powell killed and destroyed in Baghdad more than Hulegu of the Mongols.
"What do your governments want from their alliance with America in attacking us in Afghanistan?"
</cite>
Radical Muslims see Israel and the US as an axis of evil, in each other pockets, and virtually indistinguishable, thus making the US a legitimate target to punish for the undeniable crimes of Zionism and liberate Palestine. Have you really not noticed this?
-Bullshit propaganda
Whether or not Jews tend to be more miserly or not is irrelevant and I don't give a shit, but they do have the kind of influence in the US that makes the US Israel's best friend, and this is the major reason --amongst a host of other reasons-- why the international Muslim community loaths you and the bitterest among them have gone so far as to fly planes into your office blocks.
-They choose to attack America for the crimes of Israel, and their suicide bombings have gotten them so much in Israel. They are vicous fools.
>Please don't call me a neo-nazi or unintelligent just because I disagree with you.
-You are not unitelligent if you disagree with me. You are a neo-Nazi because you blindly buy into the lies that are promugated by the anti-Semites out there.
-In summary take your biased webpages and your anti-Semitic attitudes and kindly, go fuck yourself.
Submitted by K420 (user info) at 2003-07-15 11:38:31 EDT (#)
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ONE OF THESE DAYS I'M GOING TO CUT YOU INTO LITTLE PIECES!
(reference anyone?)"
Pink Floyd
Submitted by El_Guapo (user info) at 2003-07-15 11:28:46 EDT (#)
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http://members.monsterhunt.org/lifeguard/godworthless.jpg
Submitted by Manfre (user info) at 2003-07-15 11:20:03 EDT (#)
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No the Nazis were old school.
The Nazi 2.3 (or Nazis of 2003) uses Microwaves. Much more Energy Star compliant...
Submitted by carmex9 (user info) at 2003-07-15 11:11:27 EDT (#)
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um...what?
people are so silly
Submitted by DavidAdventurer (user info) at 2003-07-15 11:09:59 EDT (#)
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Judoka, just as being an America total skewed your willingness to accept facts in our last debate, your being Jewish now skews your willingness to accept facts on Israel.
Here is a typical Muslim site: http://johnw.host.sk/sitemap.htm
Notice that it is divided into sections, each being something they consider fundamental to being a Muslim. Alongside such sections as the "Quran" and "Islam and its pillars", we find two others: "Israeli War Crimes" and "America & War on Terror". Doesn't the fact they put these two things on the same level as their holy book and the foundations of their belief tell you anything about the importance they give these issues?
A key part of being a radical Muslim in the modern world is hating Israel for their genocide and hating America for supporting them. Had you really missed that?? Support for the desperate (and, in their view, martyred) Palestinian people is the cornerstone of international Muslim solidarity.
Won't listen to me? Listen to Osama bin Laden then:
<cite date="12/Nov/2002">
"What [US President George] Bush, the pharaoh of this age, was doing in terms of killing our sons in Iraq, and what Israel, the United States' ally, was doing in terms of bombing houses that shelter old people, women and children with US-made aircraft in Palestine were sufficient to prompt the sane among your rulers to distance themselves from this criminal gang.
"Our kinfolk in Palestine have been slain and severely tortured for nearly a century.
"If we defend our people in Palestine, the world becomes agitated and allies itself against Muslims, unjustly and falsely, under the pretence of fighting terrorism.
"What do your governments want by allying themselves with the criminal gang in the White House against Muslims?
"Do your governments not know that the White House gangsters are the biggest butchers of this age?
"[US Defence Secretary Donald] Rumsfeld, the butcher of Vietnam, killed more than two million people, not to mention those he wounded.
"[US Vice-President Dick] Cheney and [US Secretary of State Colin] Powell killed and destroyed in Baghdad more than Hulegu of the Mongols.
"What do your governments want from their alliance with America in attacking us in Afghanistan?"
</cite>
Radical Muslims see Israel and the US as an axis of evil, in each other pockets, and virtually indistinguishable, thus making the US a legitimate target to punish for the undeniable crimes of Zionism and liberate Palestine. Have you really not noticed this?
Whether or not Jews tend to be more miserly or not is irrelevant and I don't give a shit, but they do have the kind of influence in the US that makes the US Israel's best friend, and this is the major reason --amongst a host of other reasons-- why the international Muslim community loaths you and the bitterest among them have gone so far as to fly planes into your office blocks.
Please don't call me a neo-nazi or unintelligent just because I disagree with you.
Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2003-07-15 10:56:15 EDT (#)
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Ummm, no.
I'm sorry for those of you who think he has a point, because he's flat out wrong.
As for threats against my girlfriend or family, I know that people who are saying those things A) Don't know my family and therefore I consider the insults to be essentially neutral and non-offending... kind of like in elementary school when someone would go "YOUR MOMMA!" and B)if someone did conceive an irrational hatred of my family, they don't know how to get to me to act on it.
As far as spreading hate speech or acting terribly irresponsibly, yes, then I get annoyed, because it has a real effect on the world at large, and by extension, effects me.
And if you think that this post wasn't racist, well, I don't know what to say, except DID YOU READ THE GODDAMNED POST?
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2003-07-15 10:07:39 EDT (#)
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never mind, it's been said
you got your ass kicked by a bunch of jews
AAHAHAHAHAHAHAAHA
Hey, hitler made the trains run on time
Submitted by Judoka (user info) at 2003-07-15 09:58:22 EDT (#)
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While it is true there is a dispaportionate representation of Jews in Hollywood, therefore Jews must control the media is not only absurd it is flat out wrong. At most the Jewish population of the USA is around 7%, perhaps it is because the Jewish population knows how to wield their relatively modest influence they seem to be omnipresent. That being said, condoning this piece of trash is the last thing with any sort of brain can do. We (the Jews) have obviously made an effort to get involved in the political process (Florida notwithstanding)because we have a very real fear that we could be used as scapegoats again. Sort of like this post. Some moron is unhappy with his lot in life, boo-hoo he was downsized and cannot find a job, he comes into contact with some Jews who may or may not have treated him unkindly and viola! The Jews are pennypinching evil folk. You sir, are an ignorant asshole. To say that one specific religous or ethnic group is one way is incredibly small minded. By that token, all black people must love fried chicken and watermelon, play basketball, and have fathered multiple illegitimate children. The Mexicans must be dirty, lazy wetbacks here to steal our jobs. Morons.
And this is specificly aimed at DavidAdventure: Obviously you are not a smart as I thought you were. First, you agree with the racist sentiment in this neo-Nazi post. Secondly, you think that Osama bin Laden and his ilk flew planes into buildings because of Americas support of Isael? You have to realize that was an excuse to rally other disaffected loonies to their cause. They hate the US for many reasons, support for Israel is way, way down on the list.
-Judoka the Jew
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2003-07-15 09:56:36 EDT (#)
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kurva dreck
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2003-07-15 09:56:15 EDT (#)
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please tell me you are joking and that this was all tounge in cheek.
Submitted by El_Guapo (user info) at 2003-07-15 08:58:28 EDT (#)
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http://members.monsterhunt.org/lifeguard/godworthless.jpg
Submitted by MickGinny (user info) at 2003-07-15 08:46:18 EDT (#)
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if this is or is not a racist post is inconsequential.
stating the obvious is what pisses people off the most.
Submitted by EspoDmouth (user info) at 2003-07-15 08:35:15 EDT (#)
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+2 for telling it like it is. jews have tremendous influence considering that they are a relative minority in terms of population.
razor, chill out - except for the title, you know its true.
peace
espo
Submitted by NicTheMaster <nicwhite.at.peopleweb.com> at 2003-07-15 07:39:15 EDT (#)
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Springtime is coming
Submitted by DavidAdventurer (user info) at 2003-07-15 06:04:47 EDT (#)
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Shit. I keep on writing "that" instead of "than". I swear it's because I write in French and Spanish more than English (both words are "que").
Submitted by Hadooken (user info) at 2003-07-15 05:04:16 EDT (#)
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1000 heat!!!!!! That has to be a record.
Submitted by dasteve (user info) at 2003-07-15 05:01:01 EDT (#)
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I think its very interesting that someone can insult Razor's GF and wish death upon his family tree and Razor doesn't get upset:
http://www.ubersite.com/cgi-bin/message_get.cgi?message=1057532786349050#87249
But if someone mentions a jewish conspiracy or drunk driving then he has a fucking seizure.
The automated ranking was very clever, and I can't wait until everyone else starts doing it. Were you just showing off or did you think that would accomplish anything?
Submitted by DavidAdventurer (user info) at 2003-07-15 03:26:37 EDT (#)
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I have to agree with iddqd. Apart from the deliberately taboo headline, this post is not actually racist. The Jewish community does indeed have huge influence in the world, particularly the US. Notice the US's rock-hard, constant support for Israel, the country based on Zionism, which is basically Jewish nazism.
This support is what got you the attack in September two years ago that killed a few thousand of you. Much more serious that having to carry bags.
Submitted by Pacifist248 (user info) at 2003-07-15 02:18:07 EDT (#)
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Submitted by El_Guapo (user info) at 2003-07-15 00:44:31 EDT (#)
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all i have to say is:
http://members.monsterhunt.org/lifeguard/collinfinger.jpg
Submitted by iddqd (user info) at 2003-07-15 00:37:52 EDT (#)
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razor, i dont think that this post (aside from the purely attention-seeking heading), is particulaly anti-semitic. its a pretty matter-of-fact post, bordering on being answered by a "well, duh".
jews DO run the major international banks, and flat-out OWN hollywood, and im not sure that this guy seems to have a problem with that, he was just making a fairly obvious obsevation. (i think)
before you give me -2000, also; im not anti-semitic, i am just aware that jewish people and organisations are in charge of a lot of large and influential institutions, and i dont really care.
Submitted by michaelahunt (user info) at 2003-07-15 00:04:23 EDT (#)
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Submitted by hidden101 (user info) at 2003-07-14 23:47:05 EDT (#)
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hitler was a sensitive man.
Submitted by Judoka (user info) at 2003-07-14 23:38:05 EDT (#)
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And one to choke on.
Submitted by Judoka (user info) at 2003-07-14 23:37:34 EDT (#)
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Here we go.
Submitted by Judoka (user info) at 2003-07-14 23:37:07 EDT (#)
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Shit.
Submitted by Judoka (user info) at 2003-07-14 23:36:29 EDT (#)
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Calm down people, the only thing we have to worry about is if the idiot who wrote this piece of anti-Semtic piece of trash gains any power. Given the fact his Dad was never President of the United State and he is a moron I doubt that will happen.
Shalom y'all
Judoka
Submitted by Quartermain (user info) at 2003-07-14 23:19:44 EDT (#)
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It's not the Jews you have to watch out for, it's the porcelain devil-dolls and the baboons.
Submitted by jimmiss (user info) at 2003-07-14 23:06:19 EDT (#)
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This guy IS joking isn't he? God I hope so. Damn...
Submitted by JMG114 (user info) at 2003-07-14 23:06:10 EDT (#)
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You don't deserve to carry anyone's bags.
Submitted by Alabama (user info) at 2003-07-14 22:58:24 EDT (#)
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Congratulations, Booth. You are a textbook case example of racism at its lowest.
Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2003-07-14 22:58:23 EDT (#)
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Racist bitches get -2000.
And in case you think I spent more than a minute of my life on you, I work in internet automation and all I did was spend about one minute setting this up.
Then again, maybe that's proof that we jews control the world.
Not.
Submitted by MickGinny (user info) at 2003-07-14 22:57:23 EDT (#)
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I could be wrong, but i think razor may have a problem with this post.
Submitted by MickGinny (user info) at 2003-07-14 22:55:18 EDT (#)
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So what you're saying is Jews are inherently good businessmen, therefore they are involved in big businesses like banking and the media.
everyone already knows that.
Cool nickname, but this post sucks ass if you are serious. I think you are.
Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2003-07-14 22:53:59 EDT (#)
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