APW: Persian Carpets (large graphic) (1005 hits)
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Submitted by GodChicken <Monty> (View user info) at 2007-05-30 11:41:59 EDT
Carpet making and Persian carpets have been around for thousands of years as an art form. The oldest known carpet, called the Pazyryk Carpet, was discovered in Siberia in the tomb of a Scythian prince. It was made in the 5th century BC. Carpetmaking as a skill and artform was already highly advanced by this point, and is estimated to have begun nearly 3500 years ago. The carpet was likely made in an Achaemenid carpet production centre, possibly Perseoplis. (temple of the sun, legends of the Phoenix) The throne and tomb of Cyrus the Persian, who conquered Babylon, Egypt, and nearly the Greek city-states, were once covered in great carpets and silks. Alexander the Great marveled at the intricacy and beauty of these artisans. Very few examples remain from before the 13th century.
Carpetmaking suffered severe setbacks when the Mongols invaded and sacked the cities of Persia, slaughtering the citizens, but began to grow again soon afterwards.
The Safavid dynasty (1501-1722) marked a true renaissance in carpetmaking and directly influenced the products of today. Under the direction of the king, the finest examples of their history were closely examined, copied, and weavers re-taught the complex techniques required to make new ones. Their capital, Tabriz, is still a center of carpetmaking today.
I collect City carpets. City carpets are named generally for the city or region where they are produced, some villages are also covered under a specific city as they all produce the same type and motifs. Tribal carpets are usually of a geometric design, and of heavier (poorer quality) wool and cotton. They are all handmade. Although many places outside of the middle east reproduce the designs in machine-made carpets, the imperfections and irregularities make it easy to mark the difference. Mine are not quite flattened out yet after shipping and 2 years of storage. I'm finally living in a place where I can display them properly.
The main producers of City carpets are
Tabriz
Isfahan(Esfahan) I have 2 of these.
Qum(Qom) I have 3 of these.
Nain I have 1 of these.
Kerman
Kashan
Mashad
Tabriz carpets are typically wool and cotton, the dyes used come out a little dull. They just aren't as vibrant.
Isfahan carpets are acceptably the 2nd best carpets produced, with Nain and then Tabriz behind them.
Nain carpets are usually cream-colored with a variety of blues and small bits of red highlights in them. I find them very attractive.
Qum carpets, while they do not have their own style and copy from other places, are undeniably the finest works being produced. A fine cotton base (not often) or pure silk weave with knots no larger than the tip of a pen, they are intricate and highly pleasing to the eye and hand.
Kerman, Kashan, Isfahan, and Mashad designs are often copied by the weavers in Qum. I don't have any of the last 3 because they're more rare, usually larger, and insanely expensive. I don't have $8000 to spend on a single item although I wish I did.
In order below are: The Pazyryk Carpet, a 17th century (Safavid) Kashan carpet, a modern Tabriz carpet, and then my own collecton. Nain, Isfahan, Isfahan, Qum, Qum, Qum.
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Submitted by Phallic_Cymbals (user info) at 2007-08-06 22:22:41 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Hilarity_Ensues (user info) at 2007-08-06 10:05:29 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Phallic_Cymbals (user info) at 2007-08-04 07:46:13 EDT (#)
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On a half related topic, i have something of extreme importance to ask from uber.
I need a picture of Hobbes from Calvin & Hobbes in either his slinky crouching about-to-jump pose or in his actual jumping (in order to tackle Calvin when he gets home from school) pose. I have search teh webz for ages and need someoone with the books (i know you're out there) to scan a nice resolution and decent sized picture of the above. Black and white is fine.
If someone could do this, i would totally suck their balls and maybe even send them a six-pack of my fav Aussie beer.
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Ask GodChicken, he has the book set of Calvin & Hobbes. I bet he'd scan it for you.
Submitted by Hilarity_Ensues (user info) at 2007-07-27 12:36:27 EDT (#)
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FUCK YOUR DUMB CARPETS. NONE OF THOSE FUCKERS FLY, SO WHAT FUCKING GOOD ARE YOU OR THEM?! NONE I TELL YOU, NONE!!!!
Submitted by Siren (user info) at 2007-06-29 15:32:00 EDT (#)
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You collect persian rugs? That's very... intellectual of you. I like you and I don't remember why.
Submitted by Crystle (user info) at 2007-06-26 18:10:01 EDT (#)
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some sort of dark chant there?
" Nain, Isfahan, Isfahan, Qum, Qum, Qum. "
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2007-06-26 16:47:12 EDT (#)
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very cool
I was afraid there was going to be a quiz on this while I was reading it.
Submitted by Susie_Derkins (user info) at 2007-05-31 11:06:51 EDT (#)
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Very nice. The one on the top left looks like it's been snacked on.
Submitted by bob (user info) at 2007-05-31 01:41:38 EDT (#)
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You should import them whenever you come back to sell...make a sick profit.
Submitted by i_can_get_you_a_toe (user info) at 2007-05-30 21:07:34 EDT (#)
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A post on rugs?
you must be old....
Submitted by GodChicken (user info) at 2007-05-30 20:08:36 EDT (#)
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Bob.. I'm home right now.
They aren't cheap there, either.. but its still 1/3 of what they cost in the US.
Submitted by bob (user info) at 2007-05-30 19:34:14 EDT (#)
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PS: If you could bring me back one of these for cheap (considering how ridiculously expensive they can get in the US)...I would love you. haha.
Submitted by bob (user info) at 2007-05-30 19:32:57 EDT (#)
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oh damn...i thought this would be a different persian rug...
best persians are hot...especially when they get away from the burka
http://bbb.blogs.sapo.pt/arquivo/Burka%20copy-thumb.jpg
see?
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2007-05-30 18:25:46 EDT (#)
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ENTER THE COORDINATES INTO THE TARGETING COMPUTER, LIEUTENANT...
Submitted by Lugalug (user info) at 2007-05-30 15:15:07 EDT (#)
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I expected NSFW as well. I should have bought one when I was in the gulf back in '03, regretting it now.
Submitted by Sinistral (user info) at 2007-05-30 14:50:28 EDT (#)
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For some reasons I expected this to be NSFW
Submitted by Geophillyx (user info) at 2007-05-30 14:39:41 EDT (#)
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My grandma had a neighbour who had one of those cheap gypsy made persian carpets
Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2007-05-30 14:17:14 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Hilarity_Ensues (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:44:18 EDT (#)
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Would you opposed to me sucking your dick till you begged for mercy?
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Submitted by BadAssJulie (user info) at 2007-05-30 13:53:29 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2007-05-30 13:50:28 EDT (#)
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I like Quim carpets.
Submitted by Sacrilicious (user info) at 2007-05-30 13:28:22 EDT (#)
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Are any of those flying carpets?
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:46:17 EDT (#)
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Submitted by GodChicken (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:49:48 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:47:44 EDT (#)
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Nothing personal, but for some reason, ALL Persian Carpets always look dirty to me.
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No worries. They don't photograph quite as well as I'd like, anyway.
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Unless they are kept immaculataly clean they always looked like garbage to me.
Submitted by GodChicken (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:45:46 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:41:50 EDT (#)
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Submitted by GodChicken (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:28:11 EDT (#)
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Submitted by The_Drake (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:23:49 EDT (#)
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Do any of them fly?
I'd throw my first born at them to get a flying carpet.
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haha, no, none of them fly, except on an airplane with me on the way home from the middle east.
Everytime I've gone over, I've purchased 1 or 2.
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so american do pillage the iraqis?
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No Caul, I purchased them in Bahrain, Kuwait, and from a Turk merchant who operates a shop on one of the camps. He brings his stock in from his store in Incirclik.
Submitted by Despina (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:44:57 EDT (#)
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lol who colects rugs? what a lozer, this is stupid, u r probably a ugly birgin lol
Submitted by wookie (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:44:13 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:41:50 EDT (#)
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Submitted by GodChicken (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:28:11 EDT (#)
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Submitted by The_Drake (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:23:49 EDT (#)
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Do any of them fly?
I'd throw my first born at them to get a flying carpet.
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haha, no, none of them fly, except on an airplane with me on the way home from the middle east.
Everytime I've gone over, I've purchased 1 or 2.
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so american do pillage the iraqis?
Submitted by firefly (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:41:30 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by GodChicken (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:35:05 EDT (#)
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Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:33:50 EDT (#)
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do i have any money coming?
i dunno what to send you in return though :(
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I have it. I need you to give me an address.
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:33:50 EDT (#)
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do i have any money coming?
i dunno what to send you in return though :(
Submitted by The_Drake (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:32:31 EDT (#)
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Thanks for volunteering me, Angel.
Submitted by Hilarity_Ensues (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:31:42 EDT (#)
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Monty, are you a genie? You sure do have a lot of rugs, and Drake has a point. If he rubs your magic stick, does he get wishes?
Submitted by GodChicken (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:28:11 EDT (#)
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Submitted by The_Drake (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:23:49 EDT (#)
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Do any of them fly?
I'd throw my first born at them to get a flying carpet.
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haha, no, none of them fly, except on an airplane with me on the way home from the middle east.
Everytime I've gone over, I've purchased 1 or 2.
Submitted by The_Drake (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:23:49 EDT (#)
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Do any of them fly?
I'd throw my first born at them to get a flying carpet.
Submitted by GodChicken (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:19:01 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Flapjacksupreme (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:14:21 EDT (#)
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I'm sure I'll be chastised for this (perhaps because it was in the paragraphs that I didn't bother reading) but aren't rugs/carpets supposed to be on the fucking floor? Every 'modern' picture you have up there are of rugs with a dowel through them leading me to believe that they are being hung on a wall.
Yes, I understand the concept of displaying "art" but....oh never mind.
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Some go on the floor, some are framed and put under glass, some are hung like tapestries. Depends on what you buy and how much they cost you. I have a tribal one I keep on the floor.
The Qum carpets would sell for a retail value here in the US of approximately $6000 apiece. I'm not walking on that with my muddy boots.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:14:24 EDT (#)
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It looks dirty and it probably smells of Persian Cat urine.
Submitted by Flapjacksupreme (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:14:21 EDT (#)
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I'm sure I'll be chastised for this (perhaps because it was in the paragraphs that I didn't bother reading) but aren't rugs/carpets supposed to be on the fucking floor? Every 'modern' picture you have up there are of rugs with a dowel through them leading me to believe that they are being hung on a wall.
Yes, I understand the concept of displaying "art" but....oh never mind.
Submitted by Hilarity_Ensues (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:10:17 EDT (#)
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The red and gold rug at the very bottom looks like it'd be fun to roll around naked on.
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:09:08 EDT (#)
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very expensive scratching posts.
Submitted by Hilarity_Ensues (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:07:30 EDT (#)
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Submitted by professorfuckface (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:53:47 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Hilarity_Ensues (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:51:56 EDT (#)
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Imo camp here b/c Monty NEVER posts.
According to that Human For Sale site, I'm worth exactly $2,059,000.00. Any takers?
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you're worth nothing
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But the internet never lies.
Submitted by GodChicken (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:06:13 EDT (#)
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Limes? wtf?
How about lemons? I already bought some of those to grill chicken with.
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Forensic, what did you have?
Submitted by Hilarity_Ensues (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:05:01 EDT (#)
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Submitted by GodChicken (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:53:50 EDT (#)
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I'll buy you for some grilled cheese bread and a 6 pack of Corona.
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SOLD!
Wait, make that a 12-pack. And I want limes too, bitch.
Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2007-05-30 12:03:32 EDT (#)
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I had a rug once.
Then some Chinaman pee'd on it.
Submitted by professorfuckface (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:58:13 EDT (#)
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I seem to be the only one "worth" under a million
Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:57:21 EDT (#)
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i was worth 3.4M
nice rugs, you fucking manwhore
Submitted by skrapmetal (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:55:52 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Hilarity_Ensues (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:51:56 EDT (#)
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Imo camp here b/c Monty NEVER posts.
According to that Human For Sale site, I'm worth exactly $2,059,000.00. Any takers?
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We could buy each other and I'd still have over $580K for beer. That's what I call a good investment.
Submitted by GodChicken (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:53:50 EDT (#)
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I'll buy you for some grilled cheese bread and a 6 pack of Corona.
Submitted by professorfuckface (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:53:47 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Hilarity_Ensues (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:51:56 EDT (#)
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Imo camp here b/c Monty NEVER posts.
According to that Human For Sale site, I'm worth exactly $2,059,000.00. Any takers?
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you're worth nothing
Submitted by Hilarity_Ensues (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:51:56 EDT (#)
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Imo camp here b/c Monty NEVER posts.
According to that Human For Sale site, I'm worth exactly $2,059,000.00. Any takers?
Submitted by GodChicken (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:49:48 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:47:44 EDT (#)
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Nothing personal, but for some reason, ALL Persian Carpets always look dirty to me.
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No worries. They don't photograph quite as well as I'd like, anyway.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:48:29 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Hilarity_Ensues (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:44:18 EDT (#)
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Would you opposed to me sucking your dick till you begged for mercy?
Ummmmm...no?
Submitted by Hilarity_Ensues (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:47:54 EDT (#)
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6:57pm tonight is good for me. How bout you?
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:47:44 EDT (#)
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Nothing personal, but for some reason, ALL Persian Carpets always look dirty to me.
Submitted by Hilarity_Ensues (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:46:53 EDT (#)
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Babylon is a fun word to say. BABYLLLLOOOOOOOOONNNNNNNNN.
I've had no sleep.
I get to be up for 18 more hours.
*weeps*
Submitted by GodChicken (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:46:29 EDT (#)
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why no, I wouldn't be opposed to that.. so when exactly did you want to fit that in?
Submitted by The_Drake (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:45:37 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Hilarity_Ensues (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:44:18 EDT (#)
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Would you opposed to me sucking your dick till you begged for mercy?
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I'm available, you know
Submitted by Hilarity_Ensues (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:45:16 EDT (#)
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*be
You know, I wouldn't be me if I didn't misspell something or leave out an important word.
Submitted by professorfuckface (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:44:23 EDT (#)
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needs more persians carpet bombed
Submitted by Hilarity_Ensues (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:44:18 EDT (#)
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Would you opposed to me sucking your dick till you begged for mercy?
Submitted by The_Drake (user info) at 2007-05-30 11:43:08 EDT (#)
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Those rugs will really tie a room together.