The Problem with Jews in the UK (1639 hits)
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Submitted by Indoninja (View user info) at 2007-07-12 07:30:51 EDT
http://www.ubersite.com/m/110051
This was a real piece of shit, who would think like that?
I just wanted to do a little test. I was hoping for more comments about what was actually said than inane comments about moral equivelancy between Hama and Israel.
It was actually written by one Iman Dr. Abduljajil Sajial, Chair Muslim Council for Religious and Racial Harmony.
"If it happens that british jewery distances itself from the state of israel that will diffuse some of the reactions of certain quarters of our young people and that definately will help but it is up to them to decide what they want. My advice to them has always been to act British first."
Now this is coming from the chair of religious and racial harmony.
This is coming from a group that wants to defend its right for women to dress in head to toe coverings in every setting, which doesn't seem very british.
This is coming from a group that has 7% agreeing with suicide bombings in the UK, which doesn't seem like it is distancing itself from suicide bombings.
Caul said on the other post that I have a problem with muslims. I don't. I have a problem with people that believe it is ok to deliberately target children. I have a problem with people who celebrate when children are killed. I have a problem with people that think using human shields is justified because of different levels of technology. The rabble that think like that don't scare me, doesn't really concern me too much. I know I am far more likely to die in a car accident.
But I am afraid of the ideas that rabble represents, actually not so much the ideas, but the acceptance of those ideas in larger more respected circles.
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-17 18:57:46 EDT (#)
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*live
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-17 18:57:32 EDT (#)
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No man, I lie in a big Muslims city....I think it may actually be Muslim majority these days, I've seen a few such protest(er)s, and not seen anything like that outside of terrorism HQ
Submitted by HurtByTheSun (user info) at 2007-07-17 18:52:37 EDT (#)
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other stories they run are stuff like the housing problem is because the government give big mansions to pakistani refugees, refugees are caught eating swans (some royal symbol), and other bullshit.
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It's illegal to fuck with swans because they all belong to the Queen.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2007-07-17 18:51:31 EDT (#)
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-17 18:38:35 EDT (#)
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"Look at any demonstration that has anything to do with muslims. Anything from the War in Iraq, to Burqua's in schools, to Israel and you will see signs calling for death to jews or calling them Nazi's (not just israeli's)."
Bollocks.
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I am not saying it is the heart of the protest, or represents everyone there but you will see it. I am taking off but it you google "peace warrior" you will find a site that links to photos that people take at various protests. Every protest that I mentioned above attracts extremist Muslims and people who think Israel is all jewish devils, and they make signs.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-17 18:38:35 EDT (#)
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"Look at any demonstration that has anything to do with muslims. Anything from the War in Iraq, to Burqua's in schools, to Israel and you will see signs calling for death to jews or calling them Nazi's (not just israeli's)."
Bollocks.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2007-07-17 18:22:10 EDT (#)
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Submitted by greEn_uGly (user info) at 2007-07-17 14:17:45 EDT (#)
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jesus christ indo,
the daily mail is run by a former porn mogul, and they run stories of princess diana's death at least once every fucking week. the specialise in sensationalist stories with no proof. as you read in the article, they just say 'a government backed report', and 'one school', where are the names?
other stories they run are stuff like the housing problem is because the government give big mansions to pakistani refugees, refugees are caught eating swans (some royal symbol), and other bullshit.
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Did not know that.
I did a little digging and it seems that the story took some liberty with the facts. It was only one school that the govt report found that stopped teaching the holocaust http://www.haevents.org.uk/PastEvents/Others/Teach%20report.pdf
But it mentions a trend of avoiding or skimming potentially contentious subjects including the holocaust and the crusades.
Submitted by greEn_uGly (user info) at 2007-07-17 14:17:45 EDT (#)
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jesus christ indo,
the daily mail is run by a former porn mogul, and they run stories of princess diana's death at least once every fucking week. the specialise in sensationalist stories with no proof. as you read in the article, they just say 'a government backed report', and 'one school', where are the names?
other stories they run are stuff like the housing problem is because the government give big mansions to pakistani refugees, refugees are caught eating swans (some royal symbol), and other bullshit.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2007-07-17 11:13:56 EDT (#)
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-12 20:09:25 EDT (#)
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"That's utter bollocks, unless your definition of 'a move' is what some drunk BNPer told you in a pub."
I don't know how good the daily mail is, but it is quoting from a govt source. 'Schools are dropping the Holocaust from history lessons to avoid offending Muslim pupils, a Government backed study has revealed.'
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=445979&in_page_id=1770
"I can't think of any such demonstrations within the UK, which is what I am talking about, obviously stuff like that happens in the middleast."
Look at any demonstration that has anything to do with muslims. Anything from the War in Iraq, to Burqua's in schools, to Israel and you will see signs calling for death to jews or calling them Nazi's (not just israeli's).
"I see that it could be a problem, if it were happening, but it isn't.....for starters what do you mean by 'allowing'? And secondly Islamic terrorism comes in for a hell of a lot more criticism than Israel in the main British media.....I can't think of any comedian at all taking the piss of Israel, I don't even remember any thing outside the news during the Lebanon thing....and that's mad, if anyone's getting preferential treatment from the British media it's Israel."
Ever heard of the Balen Report?
http://www.honestreporting.co.uk/articles/critiques/The_UK_Media_and_Anti-Semitism.asp
http://www.guardian.co.uk/israel/Story/0,2763,1397723,00.html -this report is from Israel, so I would take it with a grain of salt, but their methods was very open and clear.
http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/politics/article1942948.ece
You keep saying that islamic terrorism gets more bad press but the govt is no longer allwed to even say the word muslim when describing attacks by muslim terrorists. http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/12172/Brown:-Don
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2007-07-17 08:24:28 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Nobb (user info) at 2007-07-14 19:25:47 EDT (#)
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Israel has killed more civilians than Hamas. Sorry.
Israel targets and murders unarmed children plenty, we all know this. Hell it's even a famous internet meme with the kid with the rock about to get fucked. And no, a rock isn't a weapon against a tank.
Israel are as guilty as Hamas. And Britain and America are as guilty as either of those two parties. Britian set up the situation, America made it worse.
Also, you know Britain has had a massive ethnic population for hundreds of years right?
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Please show me proof of Israel ever targeting a child, or anything that would lead you to believe it has become such a common policy that they do it "plenty".
I don't care who has killed more if you don't have a bigger problem with people who directly target and celebrate the death of children and civilians your sense of right and wrong, and your worldview is fucked.
Submitted by STIXS (user info) at 2007-07-16 09:52:10 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Nobb (user info) at 2007-07-14 19:25:47 EDT (#)
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Israel has killed more civilians than Hamas. Sorry.
Israel targets and murders unarmed children plenty, we all know this. Hell it's even a famous internet meme with the kid with the rock about to get fucked. And no, a rock isn't a weapon against a tank.
Israel are as guilty as Hamas. And Britain and America are as guilty as either of those two parties. Britian set up the situation, America made it worse.
Also, you know Britain has had a massive ethnic population for hundreds of years right?
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What the fuck are you saying? Islamic terrorists target schoolbuses and cafes at peak hours and deliberately destroy restaurants and synagogues during high holidays. During cease-fires they bomb temples and blow up cars in the streets of religious neighborhoods.
I agree with the person somewhere below me who said we should bomb the fuck out of Mecca. But we shouldn't stop there. We should destroy Indonesia and Pakistan, too, which have huge densities of Muslim populations.
Before Britain returned the land now known as Israel to the Jews, the Muslims living there lived like cavepeople. Israel built their infrastructure and gave them every opportunity to live with as much comfort as their own. What did they do? They shit all over them by trying to take the land back in multiple wars.
Fuck the muslims - the Jews got everything because they earned it.
Submitted by iambetteratit (user info) at 2007-07-15 17:09:55 EDT (#)
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simple fix to the muslim problem: drop a hydrogen bomb on Mecca at the height of ramadan. Wipe out thousands of the dirty little fuckers. Or we could just keep things going like they are. Its a numbers game. they have killed what roughly 7 thousand or so americans since 9/11 how many hajjis have we killed? how many have they themselves killed?
Submitted by corn_nugget (user info) at 2007-07-15 16:36:02 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Nobb (user info) at 2007-07-14 19:25:47 EDT (#)
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Israel has killed more civilians than Hamas. Sorry.
Israel targets and murders unarmed children plenty, we all know this. Hell it's even a famous internet meme with the kid with the rock about to get fucked. And no, a rock isn't a weapon against a tank.
Israel are as guilty as Hamas. And Britain and America are as guilty as either of those two parties. Britian set up the situation, America made it worse.
Also, you know Britain has had a massive ethnic population for hundreds of years right?
Submitted by Tom (user info) at 2007-07-14 04:17:48 EDT (#)
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I can understand how they wouldn't let in those wild jungle apes, but what
about those really smart ones who live among us who rollerskate and smoke
cigars?
-- Homer Simpson, on Heaven
The Telltale Head
THEY ALWAYS KNOW
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-13 21:06:21 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-13 21:02:42 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:47:24 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:42:47 EDT (#)
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http://www.ubersite.com/m/110059#2471421
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-07-13 21:05:50 EDT (#)
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sigh...whatever you say, fattus.
my gf's coming to pick me up at work and we're going out.
have a nice internet weekend and take care of your emotions, d'accord?
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-13 15:35:11 EDT (#)
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Also, I'm pretty sure Caul hasn't noticed due to his gigantic hard on he has for himself - but I haven't replied to him directly since I had my little hissy fit. He has been carrying on this little tirade of his for weeks now - flying pretty much solo.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-13 21:02:42 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:47:24 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:42:47 EDT (#)
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http://www.ubersite.com/m/110059#2471421
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-07-13 21:00:02 EDT (#)
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"ignoring" below
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:59:34 EDT (#)
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...talking to himself below.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:59:14 EDT (#)
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and i'm not the one pretending to ignore you...so much for dancing, eh?
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:58:29 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:53:41 EDT (#)
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weee! Look at the little French Canadian puppet dance...
Interesting find:
http://www.ubersite.com/m/90914#2074581
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rofl...you're talking about my summer/fall 2006...perhaps the best period of my life where i was paid good money for 6 months to stay at home.
i barely came here on a WEEKLY basis, being on the road most of the time. this website was dead anyway. i did go to gabbly from time to time where you were daily/nightly btw and couldn't handle being muted. lol
i really got back to Uber in December, when I went back to work. there's a difference with you who needed all the will power in the world to do what everyone does here...not come here outside of work hours.
nice comparison, douche.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:53:41 EDT (#)
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weee! Look at the little French Canadian puppet dance...
Interesting find:
http://www.ubersite.com/m/90914#2074581
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:51:01 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:45:45 EDT (#)
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:43:45 EDT (#)
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"You have terrible English - and you type like a spaz."
no shit sherlock
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AND ... YOUR MOM
I'm pretty sure my mum died before you were born :p, anyway I'm off to bed.....figure you can't call that me running away as you'll save it for the frenchman :)
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:50:32 EDT (#)
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wow...despite your denial, it's really pretty easy to draw back in here.
i'm sure with little persistence we could witness another breakdown of yours.
uber has lost its way in that sense. ets and rob (the remaining weirdos) are running wild, hinting they're about to crack any day and nobody is exploiting it.
people use to rush to crucify these people and it produces nice little gems like this one on a daily basis http://www.ubersite.com/m/108994
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:47:24 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:42:47 EDT (#)
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http://www.ubersite.com/m/110059#2471421
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:46:25 EDT (#)
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ok guy...i hope that you manage to force yourself off the comp this weekend this time, like last time when you HAD to take a break for 3 days, only to come back to have an online meltdown.....lamentable.
oh and...
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-13 15:35:11 EDT (#)
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Also, I'm pretty sure Caul hasn't noticed due to his gigantic hard on he has for himself - but I haven't replied to him directly since I had my little hissy fit. He has been carrying on this little tirade of his for weeks now - flying pretty much solo.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:45:45 EDT (#)
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:43:45 EDT (#)
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"You have terrible English - and you type like a spaz."
no shit sherlock
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AND ... YOUR MOM
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:43:45 EDT (#)
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"You have terrible English - and you type like a spaz."
no shit sherlock
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:42:47 EDT (#)
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http://www.ubersite.com/m/110059#2471421
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:41:08 EDT (#)
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http://www.ubersite.com/m/108994
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:38:18 EDT (#)
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if rob had an actual [boring] cubicle job like many of us do, like i am now...supervising mainframe production cycles on a friday night and running reports...he would understand that we spend time here out of boredom whereas he's deeply emotionally invested in this website.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:36:35 EDT (#)
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:29:26 EDT (#)
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he does however, improve my English....which is a little disheartening seeing as I am English, but what the hey.
think you may be taking all this a wee bit seriously rob
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What are you talking aboot? - that was a kick ass BURN.
OH YEAH! SCORE ONE FOR THE EMO FATTY WOOO! HIGH FIVE! FUCKED THAT GUY GOOD!
You have terrible English - and you type like a spaz.
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Your mom.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:33:33 EDT (#)
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:15:13 EDT (#)
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caul do you have, like, spreadsheets of peoples reviews and shit?
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well no, he just made that review this afternoon and i responded to it.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:29:26 EDT (#)
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he does however, improve my English....which is a little disheartening seeing as I am English, but what the hey.
think you may be taking all this a wee bit seriously rob
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:24:34 EDT (#)
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:15:13 EDT (#)
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caul do you have, like, spreadsheets of peoples reviews and shit?
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The dude is an obsessive freak.
He spends so much time on this site because he is 'bored' OMG-LOL-STFU-GTFOing people that he has ironically become what he spends so much wasted time informing other people they are:
an internet loser.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-13 20:15:13 EDT (#)
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caul do you have, like, spreadsheets of peoples reviews and shit?
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-07-13 19:59:07 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-13 15:35:11 EDT (#)
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Also, I'm pretty sure Caul hasn't noticed due to his gigantic hard on he has for himself - but I haven't replied to him directly since I had my little hissy fit. He has been carrying on this little tirade of his for weeks now - flying pretty much solo.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-13 19:37:08 EDT (#)
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persistent, obsessive douche below.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-07-13 13:10:32 EDT (#)
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inconsistent douche below.
pretending you have admittance when in reality you're a stubborn idiot. what you do, not say, is da truf.
stfu and gtfo
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-13 12:35:02 EDT (#)
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da truf -> http://www.ubersite.com/m/110059#2469812
idiot below.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-07-13 07:11:58 EDT (#)
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http://www.ubersite.com/m/110059#2469812
typical rob berg idiotic response: "people know nothing of me! but i can judge all of you! it makes sense! in my head!"
Submitted by greEn_uGly (user info) at 2007-07-12 23:55:42 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2007-07-12 12:29:51 EDT (#)
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Submitted by greEn_uGly (user info) at 2007-07-12 12:13:42 EDT (#)
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that was the ideology of israel when it started, let me look it up for you,
of the other nations, the jews left to join israel, before israel all those countries had jews living in it under islamic rule
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The idea of the jewish nation was a place where jews wouldn't be persecuted, so in that sense it was a homeland. But Muslims in Israel have greater protection than jews in any muslim country. they have more representation in govt.
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muslims in government are screened and need to take an oath. and israel actively keeps the percentage of non-jews in its country low with the law of return etc. this representation is just a show. so they are nice to the select few muslims they let into their country while at the same time forbidding original muslims from returning to the settlements and arresting large numbers of palestinians and putting them in jail.
Submitted by hellish (user info) at 2007-07-12 22:24:03 EDT (#)
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the only good muslim is a dead one and the only good jew is one of the rare attractive bitches sucking on my dick
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-12 20:09:25 EDT (#)
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"I know in the UK there has been a move to stop teaching about issues like the holocaust and the crusades in heavily muslim areas"
That's utter bollocks, unless your definition of 'a move' is what some drunk BNPer told you in a pub.
"You are missing my point. If it turned out it was because of the airport thing and BBC then said if muslims condemned terrorists more it wouldn't have happened there would be outrage."
Sure, but that's not the same, the guy you're quoting (not sure you've spelt his name right btw) isn't saying anti-semitism wouldn't exist if more Jews condemned Israel, he's saying that Israels actions are a big factor in causing the increase in anti-semitism.
"Sorry but if you look at any large crowd protesting Israel you will see tons of signs condemning Jews (not just israeli's) that run the gambit of calling them nazi's and terrorists to calling for them to be wiped off the earth. You would be hard pressed to find a single Jewish protest where similiar sentement is expressed."
I can't think of any such demonstrations within the UK, which is what I am talking about, obviously stuff like that happens in the middleast.
I'm not happy about the not calling them muslims thing, but I would suspect that story isn't entirely accurate, as it's in the express.
"Demonizing Israel, and not taking steps to seperate the state from the religion."
No-one is 'taking steps' to seperate Judism from Israel any more than people are/should be taking steps to seperate Islam from Islamic terrorism. And the British media is absolutely not demonizing Israel, it presents a fairly Israeli-sympathetic view as far as I'm concerned.
"You don't see how thyis is a problem? You don't see how allowing critisism of one group but not another can warp peoples opinions?"
I see that it could be a problem, if it were happening, but it isn't.....for starters what do you mean by 'allowing'?
And secondly Islamic terrorism comes in for a hell of a lot more criticism than Israel in the main British media.....I can't think of any comedian at all taking the piss of Israel, I don't even remember any thing outside the news during the Lebanon thing....and that's mad, if anyone's getting preferential treatment from the British media it's Israel.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-12 17:05:51 EDT (#)
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I'm a bigot.
I'm lazy.
I've been known to wipe my hands on my pants.
I hate blowing my nose and tend to sniff loudly in public places.
I am bad at returning emails.
I'm stubborn
I'm arrogant.
I hate stupid people.
I'm racist.
I've barfed on a garage door in -40 degree weather.
I've said mean, hurtful things to other people.
I've lied.
I've cheated.
I've stolen.
I skipped many classes in both highschool and college.
I have littered.
I'm an asshole.
I have many faults... but I don't ever lay claim that I don't. I am quite comfortable with my advanced state of awesome.
See, some of the idiots around here have a problem with my persistent articulation of something most of you already know but choose to ignore : this entire world is flawed. We are ALL willfully ignorant.
'People' like JonnyX, Caulaincourt, Indoninja , Shlongy, ForensicGuy - and the rest of the scabby fucks that infest this gloriously juvenile little website don't seem to realize that as they embrace their own limited assumptions about me and charge ahead ignorantly clacking away with their trumped up fantasies and extravagant conjecture - I'm laughing at them.
Just as heartily as they are demonstratively laughing at the deluded impression they have of 'me'.
As always, I'd way rather be me.
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2007-07-12 15:56:47 EDT (#)
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fortunately, most people know that what one does is more important than what one says so how about you gtfo, you emo fatty.
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rob needs this tattooed across his lard-encrusted forehead..
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-07-12 15:48:16 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-12 13:42:18 EDT (#)
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The term 'Bigot' is often used as a pejorative term against a person who is obstinately devoted to prejudices even when these views are challenged or proven to be false.
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you mean like the 1960s-like prejudices you had for citizen of your own country/french-canucks?
perhaps you'd like me to find those links where you speak of "mindset" based on ethnicity and make sweeping generalizations that could revive the FLQ.
of course, when proven to be a clueless moron and an uneducated douche, you just repeat your old boring crap that we are pissy panters and that you're a knowledgeable scholar, we just don't know it.
fortunately, most people know that what one does is more important than what one says so how about you gtfo, you emo fatty.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2007-07-12 13:44:48 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-12 13:42:18 EDT (#)
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The term 'Bigot' is often used as a pejorative term against a person who is obstinately devoted to prejudices even when these views are challenged or proven to be false.
ergo: you.
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what prejudices am I devoted to that have been proven wrong?
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-12 13:43:38 EDT (#)
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Damn. Maintaining a -1 ranking and really having no real interest in what you have to say is tough.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-12 13:42:18 EDT (#)
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The term 'Bigot' is often used as a pejorative term against a person who is obstinately devoted to prejudices even when these views are challenged or proven to be false.
ergo: you.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2007-07-12 13:34:58 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-12 13:28:55 EDT (#)
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I am infinitely more clever than you.
You are a bigot.
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Go ahead and think that. I am sure being more clever than me is doing loads for your internet revolution.
How am I a bigot Rob?
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-12 13:28:55 EDT (#)
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But, for the record:
I am infinitely more clever than you.
Bush should be impeached.
You are a bigot.
(I really just wanted to keep this at a solid -1 as it was marginally clever - but I have seen better.)
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-12 13:21:15 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2007-07-12 13:09:16 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-12 12:39:36 EDT (#)
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Clever.
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Not nearly as clever as sitting around waiting for an internet revolution that will bring peace to the world.
Or coping some olberman speech and saying impeach Bush!
God forbid you take a minute to think about double standards in allowing bigotry.
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Awww, you feeling feisty? That is so cute.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2007-07-12 13:09:16 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-12 12:39:36 EDT (#)
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Clever.
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Not nearly as clever as sitting around waiting for an internet revolution that will bring peace tot he world.
Or coping some olberman speech and saying impeach Bush!
God forbid you take a minute to think about double standards in allowing bigotry.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-07-12 12:39:36 EDT (#)
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Clever.
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Submitted by greEn_uGly (user info) at 2007-07-12 12:13:42 EDT (#)
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that was the ideology of israel when it started, let me look it up for you,
of the other nations, the jews left to join israel, before israel all those countries had jews living in it under islamic rule
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The idea of the jewish nation was a place where jews wouldn't be persecuted, so in that sense it was a homeland. But Muslims in Israel have greater protection than jews in any muslim country. they have more representation in govt.
It was never for just jews, the original treaty in 48 didn't call for kicking any muslims out of their homes. Most of the muslims that left on their own.
Jews left other nations to join Israel because they were kicked out or persecuted.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-07-12 12:19:06 EDT (#)
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i'm not sure i understand your last sentence. but what's the difference with an islamic republic and a jewish state?
anyway...i'm not gonna be drag in the kind of argument i try to avoid. i don't pretend to speak for the Middle East so think what you will, eh?
Submitted by greEn_uGly (user info) at 2007-07-12 12:13:42 EDT (#)
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that was the ideology of israel when it started, let me look it up for you,
of the other nations, the jews left to join israel, before israel all those countries had jews living in it under islamic rule
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-07-12 12:08:44 EDT (#)
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Afghanistan, Iran, Pakistan are all Islamic Republics.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-07-12 12:06:11 EDT (#)
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liar below
http://www.mapquest.com/atlas/main.adp?region=israel
Religions
Jewish 80.1%, Muslim 14.6% (mostly Sunni Muslim), Christian 2.1%, other 3.2% (1996 est.)
Submitted by greEn_uGly (user info) at 2007-07-12 12:03:10 EDT (#)
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the idea of israel is that it is a jewish state, a state only for jews, no christians, no muslims, just jews. that is what most people in the middle east are against, not jews as a people.
Submitted by sexualchocolate1984 (user info) at 2007-07-12 11:35:47 EDT (#)
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The problem with Jews in the UK is just that, there are Jews in the UK. In fact it's a fucking problem that there are Jews anywhere. I say Kill em all and pack all the fucking Muslims to Palestine.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-07-12 11:20:34 EDT (#)
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I SAID "NO ONIONS", ASSHOLE.
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-07-12 10:55:04 EDT (#)
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Gobalism"""
lol, that sounds funny
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Awww, god damn it!!!
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No Comment
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-07-12 10:55:21 EDT (#)
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GOEBBELISM!
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Gobalism"""
lol, that sounds funny
Submitted by Coyote (user info) at 2007-07-12 10:54:53 EDT (#)
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When I lived in New Haven there was this place where you could get a totally kosher pizza made on matzoh style crust during Passover.
The Italian speaking gents behind the register wouldn't bat an eye if you went in there and asked for the matzoh pizza with extra sausage and bacon.
The moral of the story? Everyone would be much happier if they didn't inquire too closely or care too much about the little quirks of what the guy living next door happens to believe in. Except for the poor schmuck who gets stuck having to eat the kosher pizza.
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-07-12 10:53:56 EDT (#)
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1 - Quite clever, my lil' "Super-Alter," quite a clever move indeed...
2 - Um, I don't know any Jews in Britain, so I really can't make a strong and informed comment on that.
3 - However... as ETS is so fond of flipping out on me for, I'm a true believer in Gobalism. I think remembering and respecting certain traditions and beliefs from the past is a quaint notion, and perfectly acceptable in the comfort of your own home. Regardless, it is now the 21st century and it's time to stop clinging so desperately to outdated dogmas of ANY kind and march proudly into the future. I could give a damn what race, religion or nationality you are; stop trying to define yourself by that. Culture is cute, and we can still appreciate it in art, literature, food, prayer and what-not... it does NOT have to be the all encompessing factor in your life. You are an individual with your own, unique personality; celebrate in THAT.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-07-12 10:51:36 EDT (#)
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I didn't realize they were built in the 30's...that changes my thoughts on French integration. """
The "glorieuses" are not the 30's, but a referrence to the 30 years of the fast growing french economy after WWII.
still, i doubt they made exhaustive studies for the future when they were rapidly building those things like legos. at least that is one thing the muslims and french agree on, it wasn't thought out.
it's as if you built enormous surburbs in a hurry for beaners to meet a dynamic labor market and your economy went to a stall overnight. those would turn into huge fucking ghettos.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2007-07-12 10:43:38 EDT (#)
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Submitted by raebuf (user info) at 2007-07-12 10:37:25 EDT (#)
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Just fucking nuke everyone but the WASPS and watch how quickly the Earth rights itself.
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Sorry, didn't you get the memo? the pope just said catholicism is the one true faith. so we don't need Protestants.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-07-12 10:40:37 EDT (#)
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Submitted by raebuf (user info) at 2007-07-12 10:37:25 EDT (#)
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Just fucking nuke everyone but the WASPS and watch how quickly the Earth rights itself.
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can we eradicate ginger people too?
you know it IS a genetic deficiency.
i saw a ginger girl her ginger boyfriend at the pool the other day. it killed my apetite, i couldn't even eat fruit!
:-O~~~ (<- that's a guy barfing)
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2007-07-12 10:40:06 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-07-12 10:36:22 EDT (#)
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anywhere on earth, immigrants take a number of generations to become fully integrated. it's life. can you honestly say you have no problems with mexicans?
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I didn't realize they were built in the 30's...that changes my thoughts on French integration.
My only problem is the govt catering to them, but I realize the cultural difference are a lot less between mexicans and americans, and I think it is probably easier in America (or canada) because we are more used to immigrants. so I would expect France to have bigger problems.
Submitted by raebuf (user info) at 2007-07-12 10:37:25 EDT (#)
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Just fucking nuke everyone but the WASPS and watch how quickly the Earth rights itself.
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2007-07-12 10:20:51 EDT (#)
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From my understanding of French immigration they built huge neighborhoods the were soley to house immigrants. In the US we now have neighborhoods like that, but they developed over time and they are always rubbing shoulders with different people. I think the french model really isn't working (wanna burn a car?), and having smaller pockets would probably have made transition to french life easier. I could be wrong and maybe I am not getting the full picture.
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The 'Banlieues' were built in a hurry during "Les 30 Glorieuses" to meet the labor demand. I doubt the french thought of those problems at the time.
But which system , whether french or american (those were examples i know well), is the best wasn't my point. I think it's irrelevant compared to demographics. When x group becomes a significant population, you are bound to have homogenization/ghettos at one point and clashes with the locals will occur.
anywhere on earth, immigrants take a number of generations to become fully integrated. it's life. can you honestly say you have no problems with mexicans?
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2007-07-12 10:31:57 EDT (#)
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Before people get bent out of shape I am not implying that Israel is perfect or that their hands are clean.
I am just saying it makes a better story to show a destroyed house than to destroyed house and explain the rockets were being launched from it before it was blown up.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2007-07-12 10:24:45 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-07-12 10:18:46 EDT (#)
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as for this post, i understand your point, that you have a problem with people targetting children and whatnot.
personally, i think this conflict recieves so much coverage that people feel compelled to have an opinion. it always gets emotional and people often take a side when really, none of us are living in their reality and are fit to judge what it's like, on one side or another of that unsolvable complicated mess we should stay away from.
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It recievs so much coverage because Israel is a free country. The press can go there pay some pelestenian to run around with a camera, then the reporter can pretend they were sweating it out in the street while the camera man comes back with a one sided or fabricated news scene that shows the never ending atrocities of Israel.
Israel is a shining example of it bleeds it leads. You don't see similiar coverage of worse, carnage because other countries won't allow it. Israel gets hammered because of its freedom.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2007-07-12 10:20:51 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-07-12 10:08:38 EDT (#)
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your NPR seems to forget that europe is many countries. it largely depends where you go.
americans often forget proportions. the number of muslims in the US is hard to estimate according to what i found but the highest number was around 6 million, a large portion of which are converted born-americans, not foreign born immigrants who are not integrated and bring their whole cultural baggage with them.
in france, more than 10% of the population is muslim based on official numbers (that number might is probably higher in reality).
when a x group reaches a sizable population, demographics come into play and assimilation becomes a lot more complicated. i think the US has that problem with "beaners" and they're not that culturally different from us compared to muslims. even here, we weclome huge numbers of immigrants from north africa because they're french-speaking. they're just not a marginal group anymore and clashes are starting to occur, whether because of intolerance on our side or irresponsible demands from their.
i don't think the US system is better at integrating people. most nations have a problem with their poorer neighbors and their populations.
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The converted portion are normally black from ghetto areas, and they have their own problems.
From my understanding of French immigration they built huge neighborhoods the were soley to house immigrants. In the US we now have neighborhoods like that, but they developed over time and they are always rubbing shoulders with different people. I think the french model really isn't working (wanna burn a car?), and having smaller pockets would probably have made transition to french life easier. I could be wrong and maybe I am not getting the full picture.
I know in the UK there has been a move to stop teaching about issues like the holocaust and the crusades in heavily muslim areas, which is a recipe for disaster. It is that much more difficult to understand people living in your country if they have a fundamentaly different view on life, especially when public school reinforce those differences.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-07-12 10:18:46 EDT (#)
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as for this post, i understand your point, that you have a problem with people targetting children and whatnot.
personally, i think this conflict recieves so much coverage that people feel compelled to have an opinion. it always gets emotional and people often take a side when really, none of us are living in their reality and are fit to judge what it's like, on one side or another of that unsolvable complicated mess we should stay away from.
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Submitted by loki (user info) at 2007-07-12 09:44:24 EDT (#)
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Wasn't part of the problem in Europe the fact that these minority groups are not integrated into whatever you would consider European society. I don't know anything about this but I heard this on NPR so it must be true. ;)
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your NPR seems to forget that europe is many countries. it largely depends where you go.
americans often forget proportions. the number of muslims in the US is hard to estimate according to what i found but the highest number was around 6 million, a large portion of which are converted born-americans, not foreign born immigrants who are not integrated and bring their whole cultural baggage with them.
in france, more than 10% of the population is muslim based on official numbers (that number might is probably higher in reality).
when a x group reaches a sizable population, demographics come into play and assimilation becomes a lot more complicated. i think the US has that problem with "beaners" and they're not that culturally different from us compared to muslims. even here, we weclome huge numbers of immigrants from north africa because they're french-speaking. they're just not a marginal group anymore and clashes are starting to occur, whether because of intolerance on our side or irresponsible demands from their.
i don't think the US system is better at integrating people. most nations have a problem with their poorer neighbors and their populations.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2007-07-12 09:57:40 EDT (#)
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Submitted by loki (user info) at 2007-07-12 09:44:24 EDT (#)
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Wasn't part of the problem in Europe the fact that these minority groups are not integrated into whatever you would consider European society. I don't know anything about this but I heard this on NPR so it must be true. ;)
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Do you mean Jews or Muslims?
As far as jews go unless they are orthodox (No idea what percent they are, in the US they are by far the minority) they are integrated. They have no special dress, and they probably eat pork.
All I know abou muslim integration has been from news on the intertubes (I never saw any muzzies in London because I stayed in the first class lounge in the airport).
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-12 09:50:23 EDT (#)
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for example, I don't like Chicken tikka masala
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suddenly getting busy in here, will respond later, for now just assume I disagree with you as much as possible }:)
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-12 09:28:15 EDT (#)
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Chicken Tikka Masala was invented by a scotsman, in Glasgow, in 1936.
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I never thought I would ever like food that was invented in scotland that didn't involve a deep fried candy bar.
Chicken Tikka Masala made me appreciate indian food.
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2007-07-12 09:44:24 EDT (#)
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Wasn't part of the problem in Europe the fact that these minority groups are not integrated into whatever you would consider European society. I don't know anything about this but I heard this on NPR so it must be true. ;)
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-12 09:26:57 EDT (#)
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"A corner shop in Glasgow burned down in suspicious circumstances recently, although it turned out to be completely unrelated, the BBC suggested that it may have been revenge for the Glasgow airport thing. There was no outcry or accusations of BBC being racist."
You are missing my point. If it turned out it was because of the airport thing and BBC then said if muslims condemned terrorists more it wouldn't have happened there would be outrage.
"The 'bomb/kill those who insult Islam' placard waving protest in London during the whole cartoon thing was actually only about 50 people (don't believe everything you read in the papers) which certainly isn't 'huge' by my standards, and those people were arrested at a later date."
Sorry but if you look at any large crowd protesting Israel you will see tons of signs condemning Jews (not just israeli's) that run the gambit of calling them nazi's and terrorists to calling for them to be wiped off the earth. You would be hard pressed to find a single Jewish protest where similiar sentement is expressed.
"No, I hear many people, including Tony Blair saying that British Muslims need to fight terrorism in their community, I don't notice anyone trying to seperate Islam and Islamic terrorism."
Tony started saying that as he was stepping down. Gordon Brown has banned the word "muslim" when talking abotu terrorist attacks. http://www.express.co.uk/posts/view/12172/Brown:-Don
"what the hell are you talking about? demonizing? what British media is demonizing jews?"
Demonizing Israel, and not taking steps to seperate the state from the religion.
"I don't see any double standard, the only real difference I see is that anti-semitism is on the rise, partly because there was already a lot of it (always is), and part of the reason the Media don't criticise Muslims so much is because they know that if they do they make themselves a prospective target for Islamic terrorism.....look at Salman. I don't think that means there is a double standard of the treatment of Jews and Muslims, I just think that means comedians don't want to be hacked to death by some twat with a sword."
You don't see how thyis is a problem? You don't see how allowing critisism of one group but not another can warp peoples opinions?
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-12 09:43:11 EDT (#)
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http://www.gumbopages.com/food/indian/chicken-tikka.html
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-12 09:40:02 EDT (#)
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If it's the 'act british' thing you're talking about I think there would be....comments yeah, just like there have been when you've told us about it.....like people on this and the other post have said, what the hell does 'act british' even mean?
Submitted by SunnyG (user info) at 2007-07-12 09:33:49 EDT (#)
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-12 09:28:15 EDT (#)
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fish n chips were knocked off the nations favourite fast food by Chicken tikka Masala.
Chicken Tikka Masala was invented by a scotsman, in Glasgow, in 1936.
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hahahahahhaha
Haggis, however, has been a delicacy served in our punjabi households since the early 1800s. We Sikhs liked it because it was spiteful to hindus.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2007-07-12 09:31:22 EDT (#)
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Submitted by loki (user info) at 2007-07-12 09:21:10 EDT (#)
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Interesting as a thought experiment.
Couldn't you say this about any group though?
Ie:
African-Americans should act like Americans first.
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Yeah, but what disturbed me about this is that he was from a group not known to "act british" (DC takes this as politics, I thought he meant more along the lines of dress and customs). He is also from a group that has the largest "anti-jew" segement.
If black on white hate crime was skyrocketing and I (as a leader of a white group) said well they whould act American there would be outrage.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-12 09:28:15 EDT (#)
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fish n chips were knocked off the nations favourite fast food by Chicken tikka Masala.
Chicken Tikka Masala was invented by a scotsman, in Glasgow, in 1936.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-12 09:26:57 EDT (#)
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"True, but nobody would be allowed to say it, or point fingers at the muslims."
A corner shop in Glasgow burned down in suspicious circumstances recently, although it turned out to be completely unrelated, the BBC suggested that it may have been revenge for the Glasgow airport thing. There was no outcry or accusations of BBC being racist.
"And in the case of jews and Israel you don't see them staging huge protest where they say they support bombings, or have no sympathy with the victims."
The 'bomb/kill those who insult Islam' placard waving protest in London during the whole cartoon thing was actually only about 50 people (don't believe everything you read in the papers) which certainly isn't 'huge' by my standards, and those people were arrested at a later date.
"The govt and media in the UK are bending over backwards to try and seperate the religion from the recent attacks even though religion was 100% the cause."
No, I hear many people, including Tony Blair saying that British Muslims need to fight terrorism in their community, I don't notice anyone trying to seperate Islam and Islamic terrorism.
"With rising anti-semetism, you don't see this. You don't see an effort to avoid demonizing jews. You don't see the same demonizing when similiar attacks go on between two muslim groups."
what the hell are you talking about? demonizing? what British media is demonizing jews?
"This is where I see the double standard, and I thought that quote was a good way to illustrate it."
I don't see any double standard, the only real difference I see is that anti-semitism is on the rise, partly because there was already a lot of it (always is), and part of the reason the Media don't criticise Muslims so much is because they know that if they do they make themselves a prospective target for Islamic terrorism.....look at Salman. I don't think that means there is a double standard of the treatment of Jews and Muslims, I just think that means comedians don't want to be hacked to death by some twat with a sword.
Submitted by SunnyG (user info) at 2007-07-12 09:25:24 EDT (#)
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Speaking of acting British, I find immense irony in how fish and chip shops have been replaced by curry and kebab shops. Just a thought. I enjoy kebabs and curry....but I do love the traditional battered to death fish and chips.
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2007-07-12 09:21:10 EDT (#)
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Interesting as a thought experiment.
Couldn't you say this about any group though?
Ie:
African-Americans should act like Americans first.
Submitted by livEvil (user info) at 2007-07-12 09:14:32 EDT (#)
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You're such a jew
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-12 08:57:20 EDT (#)
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To be blunt I think that's mad, if violence against Muslims were to increase it would be cripplingly obvious to anyone and everyone why.
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True, but nobody would be allowed to say it, or point fingers at the muslims. No matter how obvious it was I don't think people would be allowed to come out and say it. The finger would be pointed at ignorance and programs would be made to educate people. And in the case of jews and Israel you don't see them staging huge protest where they say they support bombings, or have no sympathy with the victims.
The govt and media in the UK are bending over backwards to try and seperate the religion from the recent attacks even though religion was 100% the cause.
With rising anti-semetism, you don't see this. You don't see an effort to avoid demonizing jews. You don't see the same demonizing when similiar attacks go on between two muslim groups.
This is where I see the double standard, and I thought that quote was a good way to illustrate it.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-12 08:57:20 EDT (#)
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To be blunt I think that's mad, if violence against Muslims were to increase it would be cripplingly obvious to anyone and everyone why.
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-12 08:45:21 EDT (#)
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No, I still don't think it is hypocritical, I don't think hr would object to anyone saying that British Muslim support for terrorism is in danger of stiring up anti-Muslim sentiment, it's basic logic...although with all that's happened there isn't any trace of anti-Muslim sentiment (other than the BNPers that've always been about)
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There is a difference between "in danger of stiring up" and causing. There is a very real increase in anti-semetisim in the UK. If crimes against muslims increased and the argument was made it was because of their politics I think there would be a huge outcry against whoever said that.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-12 08:45:21 EDT (#)
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"I don't understand how you don't see it as hypocritical. He is saying they call racism on themselves for their international politics, but would surely object over any finger pointing of muslims getting negative attention for their international politics."
No, I still don't think it is hypocritical, I don't think hr would object to anyone saying that British Muslim support for terrorism is in danger of stiring up anti-Muslim sentiment, it's basic logic...although with all that's happened there isn't any trace of anti-Muslim sentiment (other than the BNPers that've always been about)
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I don't really see it as hypocritical as such, and I don't think either version is racist, I just think it sucks to say that anti-jew/muslim sentiment is partly/mainly the fault of individual jews/muslims political opinions.
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I can see your point on the first, maybe he meant that. But if he did couldn't the same be said of muslims? and if it was don't you think there would be a huge outcry among muslims?
I don't understand how you don't see it as hypocritical. He is saying they call racism on themselves for their international politics, but would surely object over any finger pointing of muslims getting negative attention for their international politics.
Submitted by beeltea (user info) at 2007-07-12 08:15:45 EDT (#)
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that's "LOL" if you're hip
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-12 08:10:06 EDT (#)
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"You may think that (I agree in a free society you should dress how you wish), but what do you think the Iman meant by it? Don't you think he was implying that the jews should dress "normal"?"
No, not really. I think he was talking about British Jews supporting Israeli actions against Palestinians.
"So you agree that this version is more offensive, but don't you also see the hypocrisy? Telling jews to behave in a way that if applied to muslims would be called racist?"
I don't really see it as hypocritical as such, and I don't think either version is racist, I just think it sucks to say that anti-jew/muslim sentiment is partly/mainly the fault of individual jews/muslims political opinions.
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plus 2 because DCwoody made me laugh out loud
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Submitted by beeltea (user info) at 2007-07-12 08:00:16 EDT (#)
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"Act British first" has always been my motto.
Start your day with some extremely bland food. Then it's off to the fields for equestrian activities.
Afterwards, spend four solid hours trying to learn the rules of cricket. Then try to speak some French half-heartedly, and afterwards straight to bed.
Am I close?
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No
Start your day with left over curry (the hottest on the menu) from the night before, go down the park to kick the shit out of your mates while playing football, have a kebab and drink 20 cans of lager in 4 hours while watching cricket, then straight down the pub for an in depth discussion of why the French (or the americans these days) suck.
Being thoroughly pissed when the pub chucks you out, start to wander the streets drinking vodka and don't remember anything after that apart from vague idea that someone suggested getting a curry.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2007-07-12 08:05:26 EDT (#)
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Submitted by beeltea (user info) at 2007-07-12 08:00:16 EDT (#)
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"Act British first" has always been my motto.
Start your day with some extremely bland food. Then it's off to the fields for equestrian activities.
Afterwards, spend four solid hours trying to learn the rules of cricket. Then try to speak some French half-heartedly, and afterwards straight to bed.
Am I close?
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I think you need to smoke some fags in there somehwere, maybe play a little slap and tickle with some slag you got drunk off cheap cider, and I don't know catch a football match at the pub?
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-12 07:43:54 EDT (#)
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"This is coming from a group that wants to defend its right for women to dress in head to toe coverings in every setting, which doesn't seem very british."
Actually I think people having the right to wear whatever they want is quite British indeed.
I your test kinda sucked, because I assume the idea was to swap Jew for Muslim and have people go nuts about it...but I find the original Jew version more offensive, if only because Israel comes out of the conflict with.....not good morals.....but less disgustingly atrocious morals then Hamas.
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You may think that (I agree in a free society you should dress how you wish), but what do you think the Iman meant by it? Don't you think he was implying that the jews should dress "normal"?
So you agree that this version is more offensive, but don't you also see the hypocrisy? Telling jews to behave in a way that if applied to muslims would be called racist?
Submitted by beeltea (user info) at 2007-07-12 08:00:16 EDT (#)
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"Act British first" has always been my motto.
Start your day with some extremely bland food. Then it's off to the fields for equestrian activities.
Afterwards, spend four solid hours trying to learn the rules of cricket. Then try to speak some French half-heartedly, and afterwards straight to bed.
Am I close?
Submitted by HurtByTheSun (user info) at 2007-07-12 07:47:20 EDT (#)
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Actually I think people having the right to wear whatever they want is quite British indeed.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-07-12 07:43:54 EDT (#)
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"This is coming from a group that wants to defend its right for women to dress in head to toe coverings in every setting, which doesn't seem very british."
Actually I think people having the right to wear whatever they want is quite British indeed.
I your test kinda sucked, because I assume the idea was to swap Jew for Muslim and have people go nuts about it...but I find the original Jew version more offensive, if only because Israel comes out of the conflict with.....not good morals.....but less disgustingly atrocious morals then Hamas.
Submitted by CHR15 (user info) at 2007-07-12 07:36:33 EDT (#)
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I'm all for Britain day, make it a national holiday like that day in America when the colonists and the French beat the British and then all races would have a reason to celebrate!