How I confronted the man who raped me, or "Conquering the Monster" (1757 hits)
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Submitted by Stephie<mourninglory.at.lycos.com> (View user info) at 2007-08-10 04:46:58 EDT
Fourteen years ago, when I was eleven, I was molested, raped and tortured for nine months by two eighteen year olds, Pat and Jay (Pat being the worse of the two). For thirteen years, I tried to forget about it or desperately heal from it. Neither of these worked. A year ago I moved from Rochester, NY to Las Vegas. I found a couple really good friends, and a great therapist, who were willing to listen to me talk about things I didn't even want to admit to MYSELF. They still do, actually. They gave me words to describe things I couldn't describe.
Two weeks ago, I went back to Rochester for one of my best friends weddings. I was stressed out (and drunk) for a couple weeks prior to my departure, as I was going to be 1.59 miles away from one of them for four of my eight nights there. I almost didn't go on my trip, two hours before I was to leave, I was standing in the garage having a cigarette and crying becase I was terrified to go back there, terrified of running into them or looking for them in my mom's small town of Barker, NY. But I got on the plane, and four and half hours later, I landed at Buffalo Niagara Airport.
I want to say, I really want to put in his whole name, but unfortunately, our legal system is so fucked up that HIS rights are more protected than mine, and I could be sued for slander and defamation of character. Sick, isn't it?
The last thing I did on my trip back East (well, besides being bumped from my flight and staying in a crappy Quality Inn in Buffalo for the night), I confronted one of my demons, the monster named Pat. I confronted him in front of his mother (whom he lives with) and sister, and some other woman I'd never seen before. I debated whether or not I was going to do it. I actually drove by his house and took pictures a few days before. Then on a random drive I passed his house and his mother was outside and next thing I knew, I was parking my rental truck (this sweet RAV-4, I will have you know) in his driveway and asked Claudia (his bitch mother) to speak to Pat. She looked at me and was like, "Who are you", and I told her my name. She immediately told her daughter, Cheryl, to "Go get Patrick. Now." She asked me if I was there to start trouble, because "I have enough trouble," and I told her no, I just wanted to talk to Pat. Then she started telling her daughter who I was and she was starting to panic. But she knew everything, my name, my parents name, around where we lived, how old I was, everything. BECAUSE THE BITCH FUCKING KNEW WHEN HE WAS TORTURING ME IN HER OWN HOUSE. SHE TOLD ME TO BE CAREFUL UP THERE. Fucking twat. Anyway...
So, he came out. He didn't look anything like he used to, nor did he look anything like what I expected. It actually scared the shit out of me. He was tall and thin and had a beard and his hair was grey or greying or something. I'm totally colourblind though, so it could be different. ANYWAY (my name is Stephie and I am queen of tangents), I didn't even recognize him. He walked towards me and I remember distinctly trying to back up from him. I'll admit it, I was scared fucking shitless. I was actually shaking like a leaf. But I looked at him and said, "I need to know why you did what you did." And he denied it. He denied knowing who I was. I expected as much, I really did, but I have to say - it still hurts. I told him I called him two months ago asking the same question. He denied this as well (just like he denied it over the phone). So I told him, "I flew out from Vegas for this answer. I'm not trying to start any trouble, I'm not taping anything. I just need to know. You've made it really hard for me in the past 14 years. So can you tell me why you did it?"
But of course he still denied it. Claudia (who was standing about 20 feet away) asked what was going on. I told him he could be the person to inform her of that. He said I was trying to say he raped me. I said that he, in fact, did, and I needed to know why. The first thing she responded with..."Are you going to press charges??"
Are you going to press charges?! The fucking bitch knows I'm right!! She knows, or else she would have responded with, "My son would have never done anything like that to you," or something else COMPLETELY different. So I told her, "No, I tried to a few months ago, but luckily for him, they decided not to pursue the matter (too much time had passed, I have no proof). I'm not trying to start anything. I just need to know why he did what he did to me." Denial once again came from his end. So I asked him, "Did you have a friend name Jason from high school?" He answered affirmatively. I said, "Well, it was the two of you, and you know this, and you really messed me up. And I know that *I* wasn't the only person that you did this to. I know you were accused of doing it to a five year old as well," and everyone responded with "WHAT?!" His mother threatened to call the cops. I told her she could go right ahead, because *I* would not be the person leaving in handcuffs if she did.
So I walked back to my truck, and said, "well, this was apparently a waste of my time." I got back in, and his bitch fucking cunt of a mother walked over to me and said, "About that five year old..." and I said, you know, Claudia, I couldn't tell you anything about that. This is just something I've been told. I can tell you that your son *did* in fact hurt me, a lot. He TORTURED me. It's taken a lot from me." And she responded with, "Well, if you set foot on my property or call here again, I will press charges." And I calmly responded with, "Well, you have nothing that you can actually press charges against me for, and anyway, my flight leaves tomorrow, so I guess you won't have to worry about that, will you?" And I turned my truck on, and the music was so loud that I jumped, and hit my head on the ceiling.
I spent the rest of the night worried that they were going to come over to my mom's and talk to me before I left. Luckily, they did not.
So how do I feel? Well, I'm proud of what I did. This monster scares the shit out of me. He fucking keeps me up night after night after night because I have nightmares about him. I had a nightmare that night that Uriah and I were flying home and I was on the aisle, Uriah (one of my best friends fron Vegas) in the middle, and he was sitting right next to him, glaring at me and trying to put his hand in between my legs. And I knew that Jay was somewhere on that plane, and they were both going to attack me, and there was nothing that I, nor Uriah, could do about it, because they always get what they want. So the fact that I went to him, in his presence, albiet a very STUPID thing to do (yes, I will admit it, it was NOT very safe), it was a big step for me.
I am disappointed that he didn't answer my question. I expected it, but there was still the tiny part of me that INSISTED that maybe, just maybe, he's grown up and become human and that he could say to me, "I was young and I was stupid and I'm sorry for what I did, but I did it because you were there, because I was bored/lonely/having my own issues/curious", something, ANYTHING, to make this question and the hurt and the pain subside some. But no, he's still an immature kid, and I really fear that if he ever was inn contact with a child again, he would do the same thing.
But I AM interested in what happened after I left. I hope the shit hit the fan. EVEN IF his mother is a piece of shit (which she is, and there's nothing that will change my mind about that), I don't think she could deny such a statement. And any amount of denial from him STILL wouldn't get that little voice out of her head, that your son is a child molester and a child rapist, and anyway, why else would someone come to your door FOURTEEN YEARS AFTER?
So am I done? I don't know. A lot of me still wants to get the answer, talk to a child molester, find out WHY, and also threaten him with public humiliation if he doesn't at least ADMIT to me that he DID, in fact, hurt me. But then a lot of me wants to do what Uriah said, move on with my life, stop letting it control me, get all the gunk and the junk and the pain out of my system and start moving on, so I don't keep dwelling on this. I know I deserve more than this. I deserve to have a better life and be able to love and trust people and not always live in fear of beiong attacked and such. But it's hard. This has been very, very hard on me. I haven't had a whole lot of support, I mean, I have a few friends here and there, and a great therapist, but when it comes to family, fuck them, since they've never been anything but making this harder...and harder...and harder for me, even when they DO try to be pseudo-supportive. I'm VERY lucky I have the support that I do have, without them I wouldn't be able to do this, I wouldn't have been able to go on my trip, and I would remain more afraid than I am right now.
I just need to know why these two bastards did it to me. If someone out there knows, please tell me.
I find myself becoming more and more embittered with my family as time goes on. I didn't even tell my mom or anyone what I did, because I know that I'm not going to get anything positive out of it. As my therapist said, I keep waiting and waiting for them to be there for me, and they keep letting me down.
So all in all, what do I want most? I know it sounds weird, but more than anything in this world right now, I just want someone to hold me for a while.
Attached is a picture of his house.
User Reviews
Submitted by shmack92 (user info) at 2007-08-14 13:02:18 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
I'm not trying to be an insensitive jerk, but people usually don't like it when lethal amounts of chlorine enter their tap-water, or if their $2000 house burns down at 4:00 a.m. just sayin'
Submitted by Kaelic (user info) at 2007-08-14 12:25:19 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Reading your comments, Stephanie, I'd like to withdraw my -1 and offer a +2. If you are hot, and would ever like to talk, e-mail me.
Submitted by FatTony (user info) at 2007-08-13 23:09:05 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
http://www.ubersite.com/m/110949
Submitted by FatTony (user info) at 2007-08-13 22:32:41 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
NEEDS MORE GUNS!
Started off like Hurcules and ended like a mouse.
You need the School of Fat Tony. There are hundreds of ways to "mentally fuck" with somebody.
Submitted by hidden101 (user info) at 2007-08-13 19:13:12 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Peter Gibbons: Let me ask you something; When you come in on Monday, and you're not feelin' real well, does anyone ever say to you, 'Sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays'?
Lawrence: No. No, man. Shit, no, man. I believe you'd get your ass kicked sayin' something like that, man.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-08-13 18:56:47 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
I hope one of the things in the reviews that you "agree with what was written about" is the part where you show me your hole.
Submitted by MouRNIngLoRY (user info) at 2007-08-13 17:22:48 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Happy Monday, Uberers.
I hope your work day isn't going as hectic as mine (it sounds like someone has a case of the Mondays!).
Hidden, I couldn't agree with you more about women who lie about being raped or abused in anyway. I think it's absolutely DEPORABLE. Not only for the person who is being accused (and even worse, convicted), because being put on the Sex Offender list WILL ruin someone's life. Honestly, I think the Sex Offender Registry laws are way too strict anyhow, especially for those grey areas, i.e. a mother finds out that her 16 year old daughter's boyfriend porked her a few times, or that 16 year old gets all high school drama queen on him after he breaks up with her and he ends up on a list which will destroy his life for the next 60+ years. Personally, I really believe this SOR should be dedicated to child molesters/child rapists and violent sexual offenders.
But women who lie about being raped or abused also give real victims a bad name, as well. Look at the way this post has gone. Besides the douchebags who insisted on replying with "you liked it" or whatnot, the rest of these posts were "if it happened to you", etc. Now don't get me wrong, I understand this is a purely anonymous forum consisting of a bunch of people from all over the world who have all come from different backgrounds, experiences, so on and so forth. And you DON'T know me from Adam, just like I don't know you from Bob We'addababi-eetsaboi. But unfortunately, society HAS designated rape and other sexual crimes as he said/she said, simply because of women who insist on lying about it.
Like I said, I'm not going to try to convince you that MY particular experience is true or not. I really have nothing to prove to you. I do agree with some things written on here, and I do understand where a lot of this is coming from, as well. I just hope that people start to look at things the same way, and stop putting such a negative stigma on rape, because all in all, it's not helping society further itself in any way.
I hope you guys are having a great work day.
Submitted by Abbey (user info) at 2007-08-13 15:34:40 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
It constantly amazes me how much of an ass you guys can be at times. Go ahead...throw the insults.
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2007-08-13 15:18:14 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
My rape slave brings all the rapes to the yard,
and they're like: "Rape-rape-rape-rape rape!
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-08-13 14:57:22 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Since this happened 14 years ago, you shouldn't have a problem with SHOWING ME YOUR HOLE.
Submitted by William_Q_Percy (user info) at 2007-08-13 14:45:45 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Sounds like you weren't the first or last.
Visit your local prison, find the largest black man that is in jail for violent sexual offenses and offer to pay for him to give this family a little visit.
Really though, rape is just something that happens. It has no bearing on who you are.
Submitted by HurtByTheSun (user info) at 2007-08-13 09:42:35 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Fourteen years ago, when I was eleven, I was molested, raped and tortured for nine months by two eighteen year olds
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FLAWLESS VICTORY.
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2007-08-13 09:36:57 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
sounds like a real path of thorns
Submitted by hidden101 (user info) at 2007-08-13 09:36:18 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
"I want to say, I really want to put in his whole name, but unfortunately, our legal system is so fucked up that HIS rights are more protected than mine, and I could be sued for slander and defamation of character. Sick, isn't it?"
FUCK YOU. i've seen women pretend they were raped to ruin a man's life just because they can. i knew a guy who had everything going for him. this BITCH cried rape because she liked him and he didn't like her back. so the venemous, coniving BITCH said he raped her. i knew the guy very well. i was there the night she was allegedly raped. no rape occurred that night. it just wouldn't be possible unless he somehow found the time to do it in 2 minutes while i was in the bathroom.
now the guy has a dishonorable discharge from the military on his record and he's a sex offender. he was the nicest guy in the world and was going places. now he'll be lucky if he can get a job working the fryer at McDonald's. the law was stacked against him all the way.
here's my advice to you- GET OVER IT. people do bad things, it's a reality you have to face. don't ask why, because you'll never find your answer. i've had people do some pretty bad things to me too. i don't really care what motivated them to do it, i just move on with my life. quit fucking whining and playing the poor little victim and get on with your life. there's an old addage- he who angers me controls me. i live by it. if you let someone get to you, they ultimately hold some level of control over you. a strong person will gather up all the feelings of hurt and hate inside of them and use it to guide themselves in a positive manner. a weak person will whine and cry on ubersite.
stop making excuses and acting like a victim and just accept the fact that people are going to wrong you in life. it's all about how you handle it.
also, it's about time we had a good rape post on ubersite. i've been jonesin' for one for a while now.
Submitted by MouRNIngLoRY (user info) at 2007-08-13 04:49:40 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Hi Abbey, I emailed you back. Sorry I didn't get to you sooner, but I was on my way out the door to a movie.
As for why I went back, I don't know. My friend Uriah was totally against it, as it WASN'T safe, I didn't know if he was going to shoot me or something. But as a friend told me, "I suppose fourteen years of struggle calls for something a little more drastic to overcome."
I debated whether or not to do it, for weeks, actually. My therapist told me I should write out my story and print out 400 copies to put under people's doors. It may as felt more satisfying than this, to say "Patrick is a child molester and a child rapist" and have people know. But I needed to do this for myself. I needed to confront the monster and put my face to him, and also, to give me a face to my hate (although, honestly, I cannot remember it that well, I only see his when he was 18).
And as for my parents, well, they had the signs, lots of them. Whether they were wrapped up in their own lives too much to want to know what was going on, or they were too overwhelmed, or just wanted to ignore the possibility, I will never know.
I've had a few too many shots of Cuervo, so if this sounds rambling, I'm sorry. You should see my text messages.
Have a nice night, all.
Submitted by Zeglamancer (user info) at 2007-08-12 21:56:16 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
If you're cute. I'll be your hero. I'll protect you from the evil little redneck and his cat collecting old mom.
The only requirements are that you're hot and you give good head, very frequently.
If you're ugly, eh deal with it somewhere else. Everyones got problems and nobody said life was easy or fun.
Submitted by hollygolitely (user info) at 2007-08-12 20:07:07 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
What kind of jacked up parents would leave their kid at THAT house?!
Submitted by haikumikoo (user info) at 2007-08-12 15:36:24 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Submitted by Director (user info) at 2007-08-10 14:02:32 PDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Sorry if that really happened to you.
I don't understand why you'd go back.
I have never been back to the place where terrible, terrible things were done to me and my siblings, and I never will. It's not a question of courage. It's a matter of burying that shit forever and moving on.
A zero rating because this did not "make me smile" and it was not a "kicker of all ass." It was a painful thing to read.
Submitted by ilikesteak (user info) at 2007-08-12 14:10:36 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Bahahahahahaha
Submitted by Abbey (user info) at 2007-08-12 13:03:54 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Steph,
I tried to email you but it came back returned as undeliverable. I would really like to talk with you. You can email me at abbeyslacker.at.yahoo.com. I'm also in Vegas.
Submitted by DonkeyOnTheEdge (user info) at 2007-08-11 23:55:06 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
I'd rather have goatse painted on my contacts than read this again.
Submitted by lechuza (user info) at 2007-08-11 21:13:42 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
what the hell man if they are comin at you , means they want somthin ,more better you look after them and care for them ,than they get on the street uh?
PS. really why would someone go back to that place for NINE MONTHS, and what made you stop going? I mean when did you decided you've had enough shit?
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2007-08-11 19:15:09 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
congratulations
Submitted by MyNameIsTim (user info) at 2007-08-11 17:01:28 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
htat's not his house, that's the house fromf orrest gump that jenny grew up in.
Submitted by TheUniter (user info) at 2007-08-11 14:00:13 EDT (#)
Ranking: 1
Submitted by Merlina (user info) at 2007-08-11 03:22:36 EDT (#)
Ranking: 1
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-08-10 13:21:01 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
talking about rape on ubersite = bad idea
Submitted by 8track (user info) at 2007-08-10 19:02:12 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
shoulda stabbed him
Submitted by Sacrilicious (user info) at 2007-08-10 18:33:02 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
For some reason likely related to mob-mentality and an ancient story that has fuckall to do with your case or the case of other women (female uberusers included, doubtless), many people here are heartless pieces of shit when it comes to reading about a case of sexual abuse. It's as if because one woman notoriously posted about it years ago, that it can't possibly be true or that you must be some sort of attention whore. If you'd been robbed or stabbed or violated in any other way and chose to write about it, you'd find more support here for your situation.
Whether this is true or you're an alter, and I'm not saying you are, I think it's sick that some people can bring themselves to respond the way they do. If your account is true, you're my fucking hero and I hope that for as frightening as that scenario must have been, you find some sort of closure for having the bravery to do what you did.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-08-10 18:09:51 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
You don't really want to know 'why' - you just want them to be sorry.
I can only imagine - if only on some karmic level - they are.
Submitted by Death_Metal_Dude (user info) at 2007-08-10 17:56:03 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2007-08-10 13:44:15 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
PAGING LOJOPE, LOJOPE TO THE WHITE COURTESY PHONE PLEASE
rofl
Submitted by icanbecool (user info) at 2007-08-10 17:45:42 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
For moving down the trail.
Submitted by Director (user info) at 2007-08-10 17:02:32 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Sorry if that really happened to you.
I don't understand why you'd go back.
I have never been back to the place where terrible, terrible things were done to me and my siblings, and I never will. It's not a question of courage. It's a matter of burying that shit forever and moving on.
A zero rating because this did not "make me smile" and it was not a "kicker of all ass." It was a painful thing to read.
Again, sorry if it's true.
Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2007-08-10 15:07:02 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
I'm sorry if this happened to you but why post it here?
Submitted by Snark (user info) at 2007-08-10 14:52:36 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Submitted by FALLEN (user info) at 2007-08-10 09:41:58 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Everyone shut the fuck up!
As you obviously figured out this is not the place for sympathy.
My apologies for my uber-brothers comments.
Ignore the dicks below and the "you wanted it, you liked it" comments.
Yes, your parents should have never have left an 11y/o with 18y/o boys, that is assuming they even knew.
You are NOT to blame even though you went back and allowed them access to you. this is not the first time I have heard of someone in your situation returning for continued abuse. You were a child.
I'll say it again
a child.
They were wrong in what they did, just as if they held you against your will for those months.
They were wrong.
It took monumental strength to do what you did, take pride in that.
There was nothing he could have said that would have made it all better, no apology, no explanation.
Nothing.
live your life and heal from this day forward, do not allow the memory of that time to continue to cause you pain. You have a lot of life left ahead of you, dont waste it.
Submitted by GodChicken (user info) at 2007-08-10 14:39:07 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
That kind of response is worth a +2 lady.
you cool.
Submitted by MouRNIngLoRY (user info) at 2007-08-10 14:33:54 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Well kids, I don't know what to tell you. So Uber wasn't a great medium for this story. That's okay. I gained some insight on my situation aqnd my question, so thank you.
I'm not going to try to convince you that my story isn't for attention purposes. I probably should have mentioned that this was a babysitter's son and his friend (Pat being the son, Claudia being the babysitter). But believe what you like, I'm not going to say, "OMG, guyz, this iz TOTALY not a lie, its teh truth, y wont u belleeve me!!" (and I think I may have used too much punctuation in that). It was just a good experience for me, something I'm proud of, and I decided I wanted to share it.
Have a good day.
Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2007-08-10 14:30:55 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
I wouldn't listen to any of the feel-good hippy talk about how these blokes were not responsible for what they did because they couldn't handle their urges and bla bla bleeding heart bla. Criminals like that made their choices knowing full well what they were doing, and deserve to die with their severed cocks sewn into their mouths. Even if there were something mentally wrong with them, all the more reason to remove them from the gene pool.
The next time I stopped by, I'd bring my sawed-off, but that's just me.
Submitted by TechnoRatty (user info) at 2007-08-10 14:20:24 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
I'm not a violent person but....
You should have blown his fuckin' head off!!, then doused him in petrol just to make sure he was dead.
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2007-08-10 13:44:15 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
PAGING LOJOPE, LOJOPE TO THE WHITE COURTESY PHONE PLEASE
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-08-10 13:21:01 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
talking about rape on ubersite = bad idea
Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2007-08-10 13:11:30 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Needs more rape, and a bigger picture...
Submitted by Istaros (user info) at 2007-08-10 13:10:50 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
whine bitch whine bitch whine. i swear it's like women don't know how to say thank you after taking a dick these days
Submitted by RabiedRooster (user info) at 2007-08-10 13:02:23 EDT (#)
Ranking: -1
by 'the monster' you mean his cock right
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2007-08-10 12:59:01 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Submitted by Kaelic (user info) at 2007-08-10 12:23:08 EDT (#)
Ranking: -1
In conclusion, explain some of these glaring holes in your story, why you continually went back to these two 18 year olds for 9 months to be raped and tortured, how your parents didn't notice, and most importantly, whether it was COERSION and MANIPULATION (i.e., they said come on, try it, and you agreed) or outright force (they bound you up with duct tape, etc) ... to me, there is a huge distinction. No one gives you sympathy to horny sluts who have post-sex regret crying rape.
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2007-08-10 12:47:41 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Show us your boobs!
Submitted by whiskey_jack (user info) at 2007-08-10 12:28:19 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Submitted by GodChicken (user info) at 2007-08-10 12:08:25 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
I can't believe you fuckers haven't done it yet, so here:
Submitted by KoolMang (user info) at 2004-06-06 18:08:13 (#)
Ranking: -2
My rape slave brings all the rapes to the yard,
and they're like: "Rape-rape-rape-rape rape!"
*****************
Made my day
Submitted by fidelcity (user info) at 2007-08-10 12:24:31 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
go back and strike the fear of god into him.
Submitted by Kaelic (user info) at 2007-08-10 12:23:08 EDT (#)
Ranking: -1
On the one hand, I think 11 years is too young to be making good, rational decisions. It's true some people's parents are negligent, they don't care where they go or what they do, but this story ... like everyone said before me, too many holes in it. I know with rape there can be a bad tendency to blame the victim, but the reason for it is because there are so many Lojope-styled whores falsely crying rape. Rape to a man is a big deal. It will get you put on the sex offender registry and completely ruin your life. My heart goes out to all the 18 year old's who got prosecuted as sex offenders when they broke up with their 16 year old girlfriends because she wanted revenge(it happens all the time).
In conclusion, explain some of these glaring holes in your story, why you continually went back to these two 18 year olds for 9 months to be raped and tortured, how your parents didn't notice, and most importantly, whether it was COERSION and MANIPULATION (i.e., they said come on, try it, and you agreed) or outright force (they bound you up with duct tape, etc) ... to me, there is a huge distinction. No one gives you sympathy to horny sluts who have post-sex regret crying rape.
Only a -1 because Ubersite is about the last place I would ever bring my personal rape story too and expect a decent audience. Don't go pulling a Lojope and posting a bunch of pictures of guys, saying, "Can you spot the rapist?!", that stupid bitch.
Submitted by GodChicken (user info) at 2007-08-10 12:08:25 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
I can't believe you fuckers haven't done it yet, so here:
Submitted by KoolMang (user info) at 2004-06-06 18:08:13 (#)
Ranking: -2
My rape slave brings all the rapes to the yard,
and they're like: "Rape-rape-rape-rape rape!"
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2007-08-10 11:53:02 EDT (#)
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Hmm... interesting points re:18y/olds and the general plot holes.
Anyway, I was going to respond to Spam but life got in the way. So yeah, I dunno Spam. Salient points, certainly, but I'm a bit unsure what constitutes a "genuine problem" y'know? I mean everyone's problem is genuine and important to them.
I guess all I'm saying is that people who have these sort of attention seeking tendencies have problems you know? I mean; they're weak. Weak people are rubbish, fact of life. People with low self esteem have low self esteem for a reason. The important thing is that they get better and I'm thinking that the only way that can happen is with outside help.
Maybe I'm wrong though? Maybe people like that need to be isolated to become properly withdrawn weirdo's who can interestingly odd enough to be worth talking to. I think all you'd achieve is exacerbating their problems though.
Plot holes or no I still thought this was a fun post which made you think about rape litigation.
Submitted by Yozz (user info) at 2007-08-10 10:43:47 EDT (#)
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Needs more .... oh forget it.
Submitted by Brdn_Nkd (user info) at 2007-08-10 10:26:05 EDT (#)
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Well said Mick.
WHOAH!! MICKGINNY!! HEY HOW YOU BEEN MAN?!
Nothing he could have said or done would have been satisfactory or made you feel any differently. listen to mick and let it go. this was fairly well written, of you have more stories that don't have anything to do with this try again. this will not garner much sympathy though in part because it was fourteen years ago, in part because you were stoopid enough to go back there after all these years hoping for an epiphany from the man who hurt you and in part because, well this is Uber. support and or condolences are hit and miss. I posted something about my divorce and couldn't believe the outpouring of support but i've seen more compelling tales get railroaded.
want some perspective? look up badassmofo's series about being in mental hospitals he was tortured for years, look at mick's token of my infection series. he tortured himself for years. everyone has shit in thier lives and some certainly is worse than others but in the end, every person can look back on thier lives and say "yeah, that's my pile of corn filled, stinky ass paste. that's everything i had to go through or overcome in order to be the person I am today."
The sooner you accept and let go of the things you can't change the sooner you can move on. good luck.
Submitted by wookie (user info) at 2007-08-10 10:13:31 EDT (#)
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"I just need to know why these two bastards did it to me. If someone out there knows, please tell me."
Because bad things happen to good people everyday. Because good things happen to bad people everyday. Because we're all put in this world to work some shit out. Most of us just never do.
So there you go. It doesn't provide closure. It doesn't provide healing. That there is just how the world is.
Keep seeing the therapist.
And for god's sake stay single for a long long time.
Submitted by congo (user info) at 2007-08-10 10:12:54 EDT (#)
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holy crap! A MickGinny sighting!
Submitted by FALLEN (user info) at 2007-08-10 09:41:58 EDT (#)
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Everyone shut the fuck up!
As you obviously figured out this is not the place for sympathy.
My apologies for my uber-brothers comments.
Ignore the dicks below and the "you wanted it, you liked it" comments.
Yes, your parents should have never have left an 11y/o with 18y/o boys, that is assuming they even knew.
You are NOT to blame even though you went back and allowed them access to you. this is not the first time I have heard of someone in your situation returning for continued abuse. You were a child.
I'll say it again
a child.
They were wrong in what they did, just as if they held you against your will for those months.
They were wrong.
It took monumental strength to do what you did, take pride in that.
There was nothing he could have said that would have made it all better, no apology, no explanation.
Nothing.
live your life and heal from this day forward, do not allow the memory of that time to continue to cause you pain. You have a lot of life left ahead of you, dont waste it.
Submitted by Progr3ss (user info) at 2007-08-10 09:31:06 EDT (#)
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Alter
Submitted by MickGinny (user info) at 2007-08-10 09:20:55 EDT (#)
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It sounds as if you have come full circle from puppy piss to acid raindrop bliss.
It may be easy for me to say but nonetheless: get over it! Why ask why? Is there any answer that would satisfy you? Is there any answer that would make sense or justify their actions?
There are a lot of people in this life that are poisonous. You have a choice to continue the rest of your life re-manufacturing the poison they put in you or cutting a slit, sucking it out and spitting it into a gutter or a piece of hot sidewalk in Nevada.
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2007-08-10 09:06:05 EDT (#)
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that was just stupid. what did you expect would happen? he'd admit to raping and torturing an eleven year old girl? why were you hanging out with people nearly twice your age? why did your parents let you? HOW DID NO ONE NOTICE FOR 9 MONTHS??
i know those questions have been asked already but seriously they bear repeating.
also, she could have pressed charges. if the cops had shown up you would have been the one in handcuffs for trespassing.
Submitted by HadToBeDone (user info) at 2007-08-10 08:49:25 EDT (#)
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Shit, I was ready to shove my cock in your keyboard to shut you up... They were probably just trying to do the same back then. But in person. And with more torture.
Submitted by creep_firebombing (user info) at 2007-08-10 08:46:30 EDT (#)
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What the fuck were you doing hanging with 18 year olds when you were 11? That's why your family isn't supportive. You thought you were hangin' with the cool kids, feelin' all grown up and badass. Let me guess, you were a little rebel and your parents told you not to hang out with the losers down the block, but you just couldn't fucking listen. You had to go hang with the older guys with cars and beer and weed. They gave you a few brews, smoked you up, and then ran train on you every time you showed your face at that fucked up shithole of a house.
Now here you are over a decade later. You moved to Vegas because prostitution is legal. Or hey, maybe you're just stripping. Titty titty shake shake and maybe a handjob in the champagne room. You have no sense of self-worth and you've got an addictive personality so you've probably started in with a little blow in the dressing room.
So you're sick of where you are and what you've become and since you can't possibly be blamed for your own actions, you lay it all on "Pat" and "Jay". Yep, it's all their fault. They're the reason your family wasn't there for you. They're the reason you're so fucked up about sex and can't have a normal relationship. They're the reason you can't trust any man. They're the reason you've felt like trash since puberty, can't get a good job, can't further your education, and you're thinking about getting a tit job. They're the reason for everything wrong in your life.
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Let me tell you something you fucking degenerate attention whore. I have a daughter and there is NO FUCKING WAY I would let her hang around for 9 months with two 18 year old boys. Period. End of story. There is no way I wouldn't notice the psychological changes in my 11 year old daughter that would most certainly surface if she were being raped and "TORTURED". More importantly, there is no fucking way I would not educate my daughter to a point where if she were actually raped and "TORTURED", she would then NOT CONTINUOUSLY RETURN TO THE PLACE SHE WAS ABUSED FOR NINE FUCKING MONTHS!
The bottom line is this: The only way this story would be acceptable (or pitiable, as it were) would be if you were kidnapped, taken from your home, and THEN raped and tortured for 9 months before you escaped/were rescued. But that's not the case here. If it were, I'm sure his mother would have known, let alone the fucking FBI. So you went to these two psychos WILLINGLY for 9 months to be "raped and TORTURED". Yeah, these guys are pretty fucking sick and disgusting if they were ramroddin' an 11 year old, but you? You're retarded.
Submitted by Amontillado (user info) at 2007-08-10 08:30:06 EDT (#)
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awful
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2007-08-10 08:11:49 EDT (#)
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Piss off brett
Submitted by EmoJean (user info) at 2007-08-10 08:02:46 EDT (#)
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"Conquer the monster"
interesting euphemism
Submitted by sexualchocolate1984 (user info) at 2007-08-10 07:56:04 EDT (#)
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Meh. This sucked.
Needed more actual graphic descriptions of rape. What exactly did they do to you? "zzzzzzip".
Submitted by ordinarychick (user info) at 2007-08-10 07:42:28 EDT (#)
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It's not rape, it's suprise sex! I'm an idiot for reading this whole thing, but my god are you stupid, spastic piece of shit. What a mortal danger you are to society! They raped you because you are weak, easily susceptible, and a general piece of emotional shit baggage that was unsuccessfully weeded out via Darwinism.
In short, your best option for ultimate relief is to kill yourself.
Submitted by Spam (user info) at 2007-08-10 07:07:18 EDT (#)
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I disagree Berty.
The whole crying for attention affair is not frowned upon enough in my opinion. It can be, and in most cases IS massively destructive in a variety of ways.
forgeting the initial annoyance of listening to somebody bitch and moan about a problem that doesn't exist and even disregard the effects if false accuations are involved against somebody as part of the 'cry for help'.
Everytime somebody does the cry for help thing, it detratcs attention from people who may have geniune problems. When somebody pretends to be afflicted by something which they are not, it cheapens the suffering of all those that are actually suffering.
Crying rape should be dealt with as severly as the act of rape itself.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2007-08-10 06:53:56 EDT (#)
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You know the whole "crying for attention" thing is so very overly frowned upon, but I don't think that's really fair. I mean yes it is fucking annoying and yes it does trigger all manner of schoolyard learned feelings of contempt towards weakness, but it still means that a person has a quite genuine problem.
People hate the sound of a baby crying. Why? Because it triggers an instinctive response to help them that is both inappropriate and inconveniant in the busy modern world. Now when it comes to people with problems like depression or low self-esteem there actually is something that we can do to help. The problem we have is that these problems, whilst very common, are also very difficult to solve. They require a great deal of involvement and personal investment to help a person through which most people can't be bothered with. I mean, we've all got our own problems right?
Now I reckon that shows like Big Brother and other vacuous "lets watch people bitch at each other" shows are potentially quite helpful in currying busy body, voyeuristic, nosyness in people which can be used positively in getting involved with unhappy, attention seeking, individuals and facilitating the healing process. Who knows? Maybe that was 'their' plan from the start.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2007-08-10 06:33:30 EDT (#)
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Then again it could all be lies and attention seeking on your part. Please look up Lojope for further understanding of rape skepticism on Ubersite.
It's very interesting actually, it's one of those things whereby unless an investigation is launced immediatly following the attack, there isn't a lot that can be done. You've got to look at it from the outsiders point of view; we don't know you or Pat or Jason from Adam do we? All we've got is your allegation and their (or rather Pat's) denial.
There are many documented cases of the exact opposite occuring; people crying rape in order to harm innocent people. Lives have been destroyed because of it.
So I hope you can appreciate that these cases almost inevitably proceed with both parties furiously protesting their innocense/guilt and a judge with his head in his hands trying to piece together fragments of evidence into something comprehensive. It's all pretty horrible though 'cause it's so terribly stressful for the wounded party, whichever one that may actually be.
So, you know, give us a break and that.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2007-08-10 06:18:16 EDT (#)
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Rape and torture is a funny old game. Why do people do it, you ask? Well it's exciting isn't it? Taboo and forbidden, dangerous and rebellious in the extreme. There's another side to it, of course. The element of power is a given, but less talked about is the aspect of closeness to another human being.
Torturers and interrogators often talk about the relationships they form with their victims. The bond of dependance, the bond of devotion. To the victim the torturer becomes the single most important individual they have ever encountered and to the torturer the victim becomes their ultimate confidante; a witness to acts and desires of the torturer that are secret from society.
I believe it is this duality that makes the concept of torture and violation so alluring and seductive to so many people, both as villian and victim. The emotional scars left on the victims and perpertrators only seem to deepen the macabre fascination we all hold with these degenerate practices.
Finally there is the concept of monstrous action as a cathartic excercise. The disempowered victim empowering himself by carrying out the very act that caused them such suffering. Hence the established pattern of fiddled kiddies grow up to be kiddie fiddlers, however there's a lot to be considered regarding learned behaviour and the act of 'reconciliation' for the victims there to make that oversimplification rather dismissive so I beg for your forgivness on that point.
Anyway, I hope that goes someway to explaining your situation.
Submitted by AsshOly (user info) at 2007-08-10 05:31:56 EDT (#)
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I am a bumbling idiot.
Submitted by AsshOly (user info) at 2007-08-10 05:30:38 EDT (#)
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I read it.
Everybody gets these macabre thoughts every once in a while; we get feelings and urges to do some pretty sick shit. Most of us can battle them back, but some can't. This leads to denial and projection. This is how we get MADD group leaders who get pulled over with a .35 BAC or anti-gay state legislators who pay undercover cops 20 bucks to let him lick his balls for a little bit.
So we realize that when we give into these urges, it's wrong and, in this guy's case, extremely troubling. He probably has some mental barricades to overcome before he can admit to himself that he did any of that stuff. If it makes you feel better, he'll probably eventually kill himself when he comes to grips with his past.
I dont know if this review made any sense. It could have been better articulated, for sure, but in my defense I have been yearning for sleep for a few hours but haven't been able to pull myself away from the ESPN now that football season is starting up again. My yearning for football-saturation overpowers my need for sleep.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2007-08-10 05:26:33 EDT (#)
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Submitted by beeltea (user info) at 2007-08-10 05:09:51 EDT (#)
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ubersite isn't the place for this kind of thing i think.
but you were brave to do what you did, if it's true.
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I think ubersite is the perfect place for this kind of thing. We love this stuff.
Submitted by maiorano84 (user info) at 2007-08-10 05:23:57 EDT (#)
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Grape.
Submitted by beeltea (user info) at 2007-08-10 05:09:51 EDT (#)
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ubersite isn't the place for this kind of thing i think.
but you were brave to do what you did, if it's true.
Submitted by AsshOly (user info) at 2007-08-10 05:05:22 EDT (#)
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ps i only read the first line but it seems mildly interesting so i'll come back some other time.
Submitted by AsshOly (user info) at 2007-08-10 05:04:12 EDT (#)
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gosh, it almost sounds like you walked a "path of thorns", so to speak, to heal sexually after rape.
Submitted by AsshOly (user info) at 2007-08-10 05:01:27 EDT (#)
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They were just trying to make you feel pretty, and you took a shit all over their good intentions. "Raped this", "molested that". Fuck you, you ungrateful whore.
Submitted by Tom (user info) at 2007-08-10 05:01:01 EDT (#)
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Interesting that you're really punctual about it. Too bad KoolMang isn't here.
Submitted by Spam (user info) at 2007-08-10 04:56:32 EDT (#)
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You fucking loved it.