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Submitted by DeadToast (View user info) at 2007-09-19 15:16:44 EDT
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Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2007-12-21 16:16:50 EST (#)
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Uniter Christmas comp prize +2!
Submitted by DaBeast (user info) at 2007-09-21 07:43:24 EDT (#)
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Well... this is nice for the christians, they're fully represented. Where the hell are the buddhists in this debacle (that little fat man looks so damned peaceful)? How about those neo-pagan hippie asshat wiccans (anything to turn halloween into a religious event)? Where are the zoroastrians (god's own extra crispy, deep fried peeps - why does that name make me think of colonel sanders or boston market?)? Where are the islamicists (watch out, they'll declare jihad all over this topic and blow it to hell if you aren't careful)? Where's the mormons (yes, they're a cult of facist asshats that wanna hawg all the women for themselves but some ppl think they're a real religion)? Where's the cuthulists (is calamari considered the body and ink considered the blood, I've always wondered about that)? How about the mesopotamians, hittites, sumerians and the babylonians (elohim always sounded like a jew sneezing to me, marduk could kick some serious dragon ass but I never could greet anus kicking alalus off of the throne without a juvenile giggle)? Where are the norse (don't blame this on loki either)? How about the greeks and romans (personally, I prefer aphrodite to venus but that's me)? The egyptians won't be happy about this either (except for the dire lust for catnip and the smell of kitty litter, bast could be a serious babe)? Confuscious is not gonna be happy (confuscious say that if woman pee standing up, you're in trouble). The taoists might come along and kick someone's ass. The hindus won't be upset but they might stage a hunger strike on your doorstep and who wants that?
Nope, this ain't a debate. Does it scare you to think that maybe the number crunchers are right and islamic religions will surpass christian ones in number of adherents sometime around 2025?
No matter. I'll give you a "C" for effort, slapdash though it was. Nice visual aids.
Submitted by BranDo (user info) at 2007-09-20 08:19:31 EDT (#)
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God is a man made 'product' like religions are and yet the complexity of this world should indicate or proof his existance?
I think all religions serve a great purpose to those who seek their comfort. So does BEER.
Submitted by Nellypaal (user info) at 2007-09-20 07:04:58 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Hookhand (user info) at 2007-09-19 20:11:23 EDT (#)
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Change your name to Dead Horse
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+1 for that and the santa/presents line
Submitted by stone8946 (user info) at 2007-09-20 05:12:29 EDT (#)
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Y HALO THAR FOOLPROOF
Submitted by HateMudkips (user info) at 2007-09-20 02:56:34 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2007-09-19 23:33:16 EDT (#)
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Whether you buy into it or not it is always interesting to read the writings of scientists who believe in God. Not rabid bible-beaters, but those who try to reconcile belief/proof, going all the way back to Einstein. Cold hard logic vs belief in a 'higher being,' that's some interesting shit.
Submitted by Ballare (user info) at 2007-09-19 22:23:39 EDT (#)
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ThereforE
ThereforE
Submitted by Hookhand (user info) at 2007-09-19 20:11:23 EDT (#)
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Change your name to Dead Horse
Submitted by Dexter-Brown (user info) at 2007-09-19 20:02:53 EDT (#)
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I like how the colonel is quoting Isaac Asimov
Submitted by MyNameIsTim (user info) at 2007-09-19 18:31:57 EDT (#)
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Submitted by FALLEN (user info) at 2007-09-19 15:25:48 EDT (#)
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1. Yes there is a God. If you think all the complexities of life just happened accidentaly, you're an idiot.
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i'm not an idiot, you're an idiot, idiot.
2. The purpose of life is to exist and get through it, learning the leasons that come along. You are being developed into something more.
The trip is more important than the destination.
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prove it. sounds like you're just trying to justify existance because you're scared of a dirtnap.
3. No, I do not know what you are being trained to become. Honestly, the human mind can not wrap itself arround the concept, if it could then there would be no reason to experience life.
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see my answer to # 1
4. No, your religion is not the right one, none of them are. Your relationship and concept of God is yours and unique to you. Formal religions are groups of like minded people that find it comforting and suportive to worship the same way. You simply need to have an opinion,atheist or zealot, doesn't matter. The fact you kill each other over the "God likes me best! Nu-UH, He likes me best!" is pathetic. it is here that humans totaly miss the point.
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o ok
5. don't be douche bags to one another. this ongoing theme is in all religions for a reason.
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ok.
6. it is just as unrealistic for a blind faith believer to discount science as it is the reverse.
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no it's not. that's a stupid thing to say.
7. bad things to good people, I know, I know. why some people lead perfect lives and others pray every day for death, I cant answer. see number 3.
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onmipresent and omniscent are mutually exclusive.
Submitted by haikumikoo (user info) at 2007-09-19 18:00:42 EDT (#)
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Meh, you didn't say anything I haven't heard or seen before, and the post really wasn't that interesting.
aka, "I've seen better"
Submitted by HotWillie (user info) at 2007-09-19 17:38:19 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Empathetic (user info) at 2007-09-19 17:29:43 EDT (#)
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Simpletons.
This is a debate. It shows one side, then another.
That IS A FUCKING DEBATE!
Submitted by i_can_get_you_a_toe (user info) at 2007-09-19 17:28:35 EDT (#)
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'it also said angels banged some humans and made giants.'
heh.
Submitted by wookie (user info) at 2007-09-19 17:09:01 EDT (#)
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Submitted by FALLEN (user info) at 2007-09-19 16:54:41 EDT (#)
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look at all the detail it takes for anything to happen and logicaly convince yourself it was all a coincedence of random events.
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From none of those things does it logically follow that God exists.
My personal position is that no living person can state unequivocally that God does or does not exist. No matter how firmly one believes in God's existence or non-existence, it is just that--a belief; a belief that is grounded in absolutely nothing that could be described as objective fact or truth.
Submitted by RyuFu (user info) at 2007-09-19 17:02:36 EDT (#)
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I think fallen's point, if I may expand on it, is that many events in our world and universe behave according to a complex set of rules/laws. Gravity on Earth is a constant 9.8 m/s approximately. The movement of celestial bodies can be timed down. Water freezes according to certain measurable factors: pressure, temperature, the other one that I forgot. Basically all these rules/laws/mathematical equations are pretty much set in stone and it wasn't an accident.
I never really was much one for this argument but I guess one can wonder, "did these formulas come into existence randomly or were they set in place by something, someone?" It's not as preposterous a hypothesis as I once thought.
Submitted by pen_name (user info) at 2007-09-19 17:00:22 EDT (#)
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all i know is that if a someone asks you if you're a god, you say YES!
Submitted by FALLEN (user info) at 2007-09-19 16:54:41 EDT (#)
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Submitted by wookie (user info) at 2007-09-19 16:42:29 EDT (#)
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So... complexities of life = God exists? That's some stellar logic.
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the point I was making is pick any process, water freezing, chemical reactions, dogs pooping, thought, a leaf changing color, sun shining, whatever
anything.
look at all the detail it takes for anything to happen and logicaly convince yourself it was all a coincedence of random events.
sometimes the desire to NOT believe takes as much effort as to believe blindly.
Submitted by The_taste_of_Monkeys (user info) at 2007-09-19 16:52:07 EDT (#)
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Have a 1
Submitted by The_taste_of_Monkeys (user info) at 2007-09-19 16:51:14 EDT (#)
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Submitted by FALLEN (user info) at 2007-09-19 20:25:48 BST (#)
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1. Yes there is a God. If you think all the complexities of life just happened accidentaly, you're an idiot.
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Fucking William Paley and his fucking watchmaker hypothesis, fuck him.
Submitted by Respek (user info) at 2007-09-19 16:47:12 EDT (#)
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i agree with you on this one, but you gotta acknowledge what you just did. By pointing out how stupid people are, you force them to become even more stupid in order to justify their previous stupidty. coughcoughAGNOSTICScough
Submitted by wookie (user info) at 2007-09-19 16:42:29 EDT (#)
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Submitted by FALLEN (user info) at 2007-09-19 15:25:48 EDT (#)
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1. Yes there is a God. If you think all the complexities of life just happened accidentaly, you're an idiot.
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So... complexities of life = God exists? That's some stellar logic.
Did you even read the text in this post?
Submitted by beeltea (user info) at 2007-09-19 16:42:10 EDT (#)
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now i'm thinking maybe tat was your point. I don't know. have a plus one i guess.
Submitted by beeltea (user info) at 2007-09-19 16:38:42 EDT (#)
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well, no, you pretty much are saying one side is correct. Which is fine, but this post wasn't a debate.
Submitted by DangerPants (user info) at 2007-09-19 16:14:13 EDT (#)
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Hee hee... if you don't believe in Santa you won't get any presents. I should say that next time I'm being chastised for my lack of a religion.
Submitted by sir_cowman (user info) at 2007-09-19 16:10:48 EDT (#)
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wow. you really missed the mark here, toast.
This isn't investigating why people turn to religion, it's an attack on religion, in which you relentlessly mock a lot of the reasons religion uses to validate itself. I'm no fan of religion, but, if you say you're going to do something, do it.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2007-09-19 16:03:41 EDT (#)
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These points were horribly shallow and overdone.
Submitted by BranDo (user info) at 2007-09-19 15:54:04 EDT (#)
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Keep it up!
Submitted by mikethescottish (user info) at 2007-09-19 15:48:59 EDT (#)
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Yup.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2007-09-19 15:48:13 EDT (#)
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mmm...
More toasty goodness.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-09-19 15:45:20 EDT (#)
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either way, your arguments have been used by billions of times by millions of people already and they'll be countered by the same shit.
talking about religion has proved to be the most pointless exercise in human history, on par with talking about celebrities lives.
Submitted by Beano312003 (user info) at 2007-09-19 15:44:35 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by DeadToast (user info) at 2007-09-19 15:34:56 EDT (#)
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Sorry, 5th.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-09-19 15:34:34 EDT (#)
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Sorry: Shlongy doesn't "do" religion or religious posts.
Submitted by DeadToast (user info) at 2007-09-19 15:34:18 EDT (#)
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Actually, it's my 4th out of 47 posts.
But, hey, who's counting.
Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2007-09-19 15:34:06 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-09-19 15:32:02 EDT (#)
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i thought this post wasn't bad btw, but since it's your 100th post about religion (who gives a shit?), i think the topic is a little tired.
get a new gig.
Submitted by TheUniter (user info) at 2007-09-19 15:30:19 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2007-09-19 15:30:16 EDT (#)
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i was raised in a fucking sect and hated every minute of it. i'm completly atheist but i don't talk (or care) about religion nearly as you do.
change the fucking tune already
live and let live and stfu
Submitted by RyuFu (user info) at 2007-09-19 15:29:46 EDT (#)
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This was a much more entertaining cousin of my post.
I hope I got the point across in mine that it's people's beliefs I'm interested in and not their views on religion per se.
Submitted by FALLEN (user info) at 2007-09-19 15:25:48 EDT (#)
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yes, the Swiss invented reality, and meatballs.
creation is a touch more involved than a clock. btw.
as promised,
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If this topic comes up one more time I'm going to have to save a response to cut-n-paste.
OK, from the top people.
1. Yes there is a God. If you think all the complexities of life just happened accidentaly, you're an idiot.
2. The purpose of life is to exist and get through it, learning the leasons that come along. You are being developed into something more.
The trip is more important than the destination.
3. No, I do not know what you are being trained to become. Honestly, the human mind can not wrap itself arround the concept, if it could then there would be no reason to experience life.
4. No, your religion is not the right one, none of them are. Your relationship and concept of God is yours and unique to you. Formal religions are groups of like minded people that find it comforting and suportive to worship the same way. You simply need to have an opinion,atheist or zealot, doesn't matter. The fact you kill each other over the "God likes me best! Nu-UH, He likes me best!" is pathetic. it is here that humans totaly miss the point.
5. don't be douche bags to one another. this ongoing theme is in all religions for a reason.
6. it is just as unrealistic for a blind faith believer to discount science as it is the reverse.
7. bad things to good people, I know, I know. why some people lead perfect lives and others pray every day for death, I cant answer. see number 3.
live life, don't pick it apart.
Bruce Lee said "It's like pointing at the moon, don't watch the finger or you'll miss all of heaven's glory"
Submitted by icanbecool (user info) at 2007-09-19 15:25:15 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by FALLEN (user info) at 2007-09-19 15:22:30 EDT (#)
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is this a response the the previous post?
either way hold on whist I cut-n-paste.
Oh, the angels banging human chicks was true. they weren't giants though, just tall.
Submitted by DeadToast (user info) at 2007-09-19 15:18:39 EDT (#)
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I almost forgot.
To say that the Universe has a certain design, so it must have a creator is just simple rationalization. Don't say that. It's ridiculous.
"Look at the intricate clock. It wasn't an accident, a watchmaker designed it."
"So, does that mean that the Universe was created by a watchmaker?"