SPT: Thank Fuck for That (1321 hits)
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Submitted by katy (View user info) at 2007-11-01 14:24:16 EDT
Strike Post Thursday (now unfortunately with content)
http://www.newsweek.com/id/67189?GT1=10547
Read that. Good. Now that I have to explain it because you really didn't read it cuz you're all lazy fucks (like me) let me sum it up.
Hollywood writers are going on strike because they don't think they get enough of the profits from home video sales. The contract or whatever keeping them at .3% of every dvd sale expired today. I'm all for fair wages. I'm all for support of the arts. I'm also all for tv and movies being entertaining, amusing, engaging, enjoyable, interesting again. You know, good.
"Craig Mazin has been a Hollywood movie writer for about a decade or so, and he's quick to note that he's had a series of good gigs. Unlike the material of so many writers in town, his scripts have actually been produced. Even more rare, a few, like his contributions to the "Scary Movie" series, have become box-office hits. Still, compared to what the movie studios make off his work, he feels shortchanged by the cut he gets of video sales of the films he's written."
Can I have my $9 back? And then can I bill him for time where someone else has put on a Scary Movie movie on in the background and my brain absorbed its ambient noise nonsense? Or that 30 seconds of channel flipping where I ran across that scary shot of Tori Spelling's crotch. (I HATE THAT I REMEMBER THAT TOO I WANT MY MEMORY SPACE BACK) I mean christ if you get what you pay for we're giving you too much.
It occurs to me that tv and movies are not something to get all huffy about, which I'm actually not. I don't even have cable at home and any tv shows I do watch are on channels like abc/nbc/bcbcbcbcbc bunch of Bs and Cs. I can actually list you all shows I've followed since commencement of adulthood. They are as follows: ER, Law & Order, Daily Show, Whose Line is it Anyway, House, Simpsons, Family Guy, Scrubs. Really highbrow entertainment as you can see. Every now and again I'll catch the one odd episode of something else. I don't watch a lot of movies in the theater either and prefer to rent them or buy them when they go on sale for like $3 unless I'm really really excited about a movie, which is rare.
There's a reason for this. Primarily it's the majority of the shit coming out of Hollywood is just that - shit. I'm not trying to hark back to the golden era of tv. I'm glad Timmy fell down the well, June Cleaver burned her cake or the Bradys eventually ran a brothel. Whatever. There was no golden era for mind numbing crap like this. What I am trying to do is figure out when these writers thought they were producing anything even worth the .3% they're already getting. To do the math for you that's about 20 DVDs to the dollar they earn, each. I just put an arbitrary average price of $17 because some DVDs cost $5 and some cost $49.99 FOR ONE FUCKING DISC but I'm going to be nice and say more are around the $14-19 rate.
DVDS sales per title of theater released movies sell MILLIONS of copies per year. Now these are some of the "top" writers, many of them write for several shows that have box sets and co write screenplays for movies that come out new by the half dozen each weekend. On top of that for every movie there is there are usually one or two straight to home video deals. Not to mention they get paid for the actual work performed originally (ie writing that shit) and in Hollywood, in entertainment, that's not a chunk of change to laugh at. These aren't the waiters shoving screenplays under bathroom doors to Mel Gibson here. These are guys that do it for an income that could feed the population Lesotho for a month.
So here's a specific example. Transformers, so far according to billboard charts it's sold 345534 copies (at least if I'm reading that right). Amazon.com lists it as $22 and change. So... that means Transformers is worth $22k to the writers so far. It's on like week one and holidays are approaching. That wasn't exactly Schindler's List, it made millions upon stupid millions of dollars at the box office and these guys are bitching.
Can we get some talent into the guild before we renegotiate contracts? Why do we pay for this crap? No other country seems to be this retarded about its entertainment. We BY FAR produce the most tv shows and movies in the world. And we translate them into dozens of languages (re: baywatch) and yet is any of it actually worth sharing? Sometimes I really can't help but think the rest of the world laughs at us, not because of Bush, but because shows like "Cavemen" make it to air beyond the pilot episode. I caught one episode of that and I'm not saying that's the most horribly written show in the world that we created. I'm saying it's pitiful that there are more horribly written shows in the world that we created.
Berty's post on America made me think a little harder on this. Granted he was talking about a book from the guy who brought us giant lizard sex, but at least it was giant lizard sex wrapped in interesting.
Maybe we should be patriotically American and sue these writers for unfair business practices and price gouging. Even manure suppliers don't get $22k a week in sales for their shit. And yet they're pissed about bit torrent when sadly, their movies aren't worth the 1gb disk space it takes up.
Whatever, end rant.
I can't wait to have the BBC at my beck and call.
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Submitted by nargles (user info) at 2008-10-09 17:34:28 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2007-11-02 17:56:04 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Hilarity_Ensues (user info) at 2007-11-02 15:02:21 EDT (#)
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Wait, Apollo is in 'the biz'? Huh... that explains why he's dating SuperJew.
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Bullshit. Apollo is in the jizz biz, if anything. He's not smart enough
to be The Uniter or Zebra. True fact.
Submitted by Hilarity_Ensues (user info) at 2007-11-02 15:02:21 EDT (#)
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Wait, Apollo is in 'the biz'? Huh... that explains why he's dating SuperJew.
Submitted by HurtByTheSun (user info) at 2007-11-02 11:29:49 EDT (#)
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Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2007-11-02 14:42:02 GMT (#)
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at least let me look forward to your radio.
prick.
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Fuck that, just listen to Pandora.
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2007-11-02 10:42:02 EDT (#)
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at least let me look forward to your radio.
prick.
Submitted by HurtByTheSun (user info) at 2007-11-02 10:40:13 EDT (#)
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Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2007-11-02 14:15:41 GMT (#)
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Submitted by HurtByTheSun (user info) at 2007-11-02 07:47:38 EDT (#)
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I can't wait to have the BBC at my beck and call.
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Prepare to be massively dissapointed.
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perhaps you're unaware what's on american tv these days?
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No, I'm all too aware. I'm also aware, however, that a great deal of programming on the BBC is utter spaff.
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2007-11-02 10:15:41 EDT (#)
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Submitted by HurtByTheSun (user info) at 2007-11-02 07:47:38 EDT (#)
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I can't wait to have the BBC at my beck and call.
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Prepare to be massively dissapointed.
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perhaps you're unaware what's on american tv these days?
Submitted by Fartman (user info) at 2007-11-02 10:14:26 EDT (#)
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Filename, +1. Issue, meh.
Submitted by HurtByTheSun (user info) at 2007-11-02 07:47:38 EDT (#)
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I can't wait to have the BBC at my beck and call.
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Prepare to be massively dissapointed.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2007-11-01 23:06:16 EDT (#)
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Attn below.
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2007-11-01 22:50:30 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2007-11-01 20:51:03 CDT (#)
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Submitted by Zebra (user info) at 2007-11-01 19:36:30 EDT (#)
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The pay formula is a little more complicated than that. It would take way too long to explain it, but the industry has become increasingly top heavy, with the majority of money going to an ever decreasing number of multi-national corporations and top tier individuals.
Like the rest of the US economy, within the entertainment industry, the middle class is getting squeezed.
Reality shows have writers, they just don't call them that and as of now they are non-union.
But trust me, they're writers. They just do the same job without any benefits like health insurance, etc. that union writers get. If you've ever gone from an hourly position to a salaried one, watch how many more hours your superiors ask you to work by calling you 'management.' Reality show 'story editors' work long hours for shitty pay, and the networks make a ton of dough off their labor.
Many years ago, when video and DVD revenue was next to nothing, the actors and writers bargained for short term gains, and now these revenue streams have become mighty rivers off limits to any of the creative people responsible for their success. Which means Sony (as an example) reaps huge profits and pays pennies to the average actor and writer. The average studio release makes well over 50% of its profit from this pool and they don't want to share it. Not to mention all the new content delivery systems like downloads. It would be like Bart deciding to sell your posts (yeah, right) and refusing to share the money with you because it's delivered online. You might say, sure that's great, but not when you see Bart driving a Jaguar paid for with goatse. Your goatse.
Movie stars are overpaid. Actors are not. It's the same with the average writer, although a steady TV gig is well compensated. But if the show is canceled after three episodes you're out of work and scrambling for the next gig like everybody else.
It's really no different than what's happening in other industries. You've heard of the CEO making thousands of times what a low level worker in his company takes home. Even most successful writers are like middle managers in this scenario. We get paid better than some in the industry, but we're not the top of the food chain, and the global conglomerates cast you aside to save a buck as easily as dumping the trash.
As for the quality of television, I agree totally that mediocrity rules. But that's because people are stupid, generally speaking. Dancing with the Stars is very highly rated, while a brilliant show like Pushing Daisies will struggle to find an audience.
This also explains why camwhores and shit stirring posts usually get more hits than serious fiction.
Lowest common denominator. Human nature.
Why is Paris Hilton famous? Because a huge portion of the first world population is interested enough to click on web sites with stories about her or purchase magazines with her picture.
People are mostly stupid.
The US elected George W. Bush TWICE.
Millions of people decided they'd rather elect a guy with whom they could enjoy a beer than someone who might have the intelligence to actually lead the free world.
We're having a big pow-wow tonight, and I'm pessimistic. I'd prefer to wait for the actors' contract to expire in the spring and go out with them, but AFTRA and SAG are feuding again and we're all riled up and actors are a major pain in the ass anyway.
I have a feeling Jay Leno's monologues are going to suck even worse than usual fairly soon.
I'm glad I stopped by today.
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No one else is glad you stopped by, you fucking moron. You act and write as though you know everything about the business. I say you are a fucking idiot, and I know I'm right. :) :)
Yes okay Bubba, I know nothing and you know everything.
Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2007-11-01 21:51:03 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Zebra (user info) at 2007-11-01 19:36:30 EDT (#)
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The pay formula is a little more complicated than that. It would take way too long to explain it, but the industry has become increasingly top heavy, with the majority of money going to an ever decreasing number of multi-national corporations and top tier individuals.
Like the rest of the US economy, within the entertainment industry, the middle class is getting squeezed.
Reality shows have writers, they just don't call them that and as of now they are non-union.
But trust me, they're writers. They just do the same job without any benefits like health insurance, etc. that union writers get. If you've ever gone from an hourly position to a salaried one, watch how many more hours your superiors ask you to work by calling you 'management.' Reality show 'story editors' work long hours for shitty pay, and the networks make a ton of dough off their labor.
Many years ago, when video and DVD revenue was next to nothing, the actors and writers bargained for short term gains, and now these revenue streams have become mighty rivers off limits to any of the creative people responsible for their success. Which means Sony (as an example) reaps huge profits and pays pennies to the average actor and writer. The average studio release makes well over 50% of its profit from this pool and they don't want to share it. Not to mention all the new content delivery systems like downloads. It would be like Bart deciding to sell your posts (yeah, right) and refusing to share the money with you because it's delivered online. You might say, sure that's great, but not when you see Bart driving a Jaguar paid for with goatse. Your goatse.
Movie stars are overpaid. Actors are not. It's the same with the average writer, although a steady TV gig is well compensated. But if the show is canceled after three episodes you're out of work and scrambling for the next gig like everybody else.
It's really no different than what's happening in other industries. You've heard of the CEO making thousands of times what a low level worker in his company takes home. Even most successful writers are like middle managers in this scenario. We get paid better than some in the industry, but we're not the top of the food chain, and the global conglomerates cast you aside to save a buck as easily as dumping the trash.
As for the quality of television, I agree totally that mediocrity rules. But that's because people are stupid, generally speaking. Dancing with the Stars is very highly rated, while a brilliant show like Pushing Daisies will struggle to find an audience.
This also explains why camwhores and shit stirring posts usually get more hits than serious fiction.
Lowest common denominator. Human nature.
Why is Paris Hilton famous? Because a huge portion of the first world population is interested enough to click on web sites with stories about her or purchase magazines with her picture.
People are mostly stupid.
The US elected George W. Bush TWICE.
Millions of people decided they'd rather elect a guy with whom they could enjoy a beer than someone who might have the intelligence to actually lead the free world.
We're having a big pow-wow tonight, and I'm pessimistic. I'd prefer to wait for the actors' contract to expire in the spring and go out with them, but AFTRA and SAG are feuding again and we're all riled up and actors are a major pain in the ass anyway.
I have a feeling Jay Leno's monologues are going to suck even worse than usual fairly soon.
I'm glad I stopped by today.
*****
No one else is glad you stopped by, you fucking moron. You act and write as though you know everything about the business. I say you are a fucking idiot, and I know I'm right. :) :)
Submitted by TheUniter (user info) at 2007-11-01 21:27:59 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Zebra (user info) at 2007-11-01 19:36:30 EDT (#)
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The pay formula is a little more complicated than that. It would take way too long to explain it, but the industry has become increasingly top heavy, with the majority of money going to an ever decreasing number of multi-national corporations and top tier individuals.
Like the rest of the US economy, within the entertainment industry, the middle class is getting squeezed.
Reality shows have writers, they just don't call them that and as of now they are non-union.
But trust me, they're writers. They just do the same job without any benefits like health insurance, etc. that union writers get. If you've ever gone from an hourly position to a salaried one, watch how many more hours your superiors ask you to work by calling you 'management.' Reality show 'story editors' work long hours for shitty pay, and the networks make a ton of dough off their labor.
Many years ago, when video and DVD revenue was next to nothing, the actors and writers bargained for short term gains, and now these revenue streams have become mighty rivers off limits to any of the creative people responsible for their success. Which means Sony (as an example) reaps huge profits and pays pennies to the average actor and writer. The average studio release makes well over 50% of its profit from this pool and they don't want to share it. Not to mention all the new content delivery systems like downloads. It would be like Bart deciding to sell your posts (yeah, right) and refusing to share the money with you because it's delivered online. You might say, sure that's great, but not when you see Bart driving a Jaguar paid for with goatse. Your goatse.
Movie stars are overpaid. Actors are not. It's the same with the average writer, although a steady TV gig is well compensated. But if the show is canceled after three episodes you're out of work and scrambling for the next gig like everybody else.
It's really no different than what's happening in other industries. You've heard of the CEO making thousands of times what a low level worker in his company takes home. Even most successful writers are like middle managers in this scenario. We get paid better than some in the industry, but we're not the top of the food chain, and the global conglomerates cast you aside to save a buck as easily as dumping the trash.
As for the quality of television, I agree totally that mediocrity rules. But that's because people are stupid, generally speaking. Dancing with the Stars is very highly rated, while a brilliant show like Pushing Daisies will struggle to find an audience.
This also explains why camwhores and shit stirring posts usually get more hits than serious fiction.
Lowest common denominator. Human nature.
Why is Paris Hilton famous? Because a huge portion of the first world population is interested enough to click on web sites with stories about her or purchase magazines with her picture.
People are mostly stupid.
The US elected George W. Bush TWICE.
Millions of people decided they'd rather elect a guy with whom they could enjoy a beer than someone who might have the intelligence to actually lead the free world.
We're having a big pow-wow tonight, and I'm pessimistic. I'd prefer to wait for the actors' contract to expire in the spring and go out with them, but AFTRA and SAG are feuding again and we're all riled up and actors are a major pain in the ass anyway.
I have a feeling Jay Leno's monologues are going to suck even worse than usual fairly soon.
I'm glad I stopped by today.
Submitted by Kent_Weirdo (user info) at 2007-11-01 18:53:20 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2007-11-01 14:43:31 EDT (#)
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Fuck them.
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2007-11-01 17:33:52 EDT (#)
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filename, I wish
Submitted by beat_raven (user info) at 2007-11-01 17:21:48 EDT (#)
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oh, and to prove i skimmed - I'm thinking that because it's a non-essential service, it will eventually sort itself out. I think you're right about actors being overpaid, too.
Just like major league sports players are way overpaid. As are Senators and Congresspersons.
Submitted by beat_raven (user info) at 2007-11-01 17:20:17 EDT (#)
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http://www.ubersite.com/m/112900#2570028 !!!!!!
Submitted by DangerPants (user info) at 2007-11-01 16:49:35 EDT (#)
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Here is why you should be excited about the writer's strike (and the soon-to-happen actors and director's strikes): Anyone who participates in that Union CAN'T work until the strike is settled. This means that writers who have been struggling to get noticed or who are out of school with fresh ideas will be called upon to step up and fill our airwaves. This is a rush of fresh blood for the industry.
If you hate what's on tv and in the movies right now, be glad for the strike.
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2007-11-01 16:33:10 EDT (#)
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nope
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2007-11-01 16:31:10 EDT (#)
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I love being overpaid!
Submitted by i_can_get_you_a_toe (user info) at 2007-11-01 16:29:36 EDT (#)
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dvds of tv shows is my guilty pleasure. i own so many.
Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2007-11-01 15:55:17 EDT (#)
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Given how much the 'actors' make for these shitty productions, I'd be pissed off too if I wrote the vehicle for their big ass paydays and didn't get properly compensated. Unless their deals are heavy on the back end, they should be making an ok amount anyway. Ok for a waiter/writer who will likely use his paycheck to buy booze and continue to fuck up his life and the lives of those around him.
It begs the question, though: what's more valuable, the idea or the application? Does a great script produce greater performances, or are the words not worth as much without skilled acting?
Is the actor a tool of the writer or is the writer a slave to the actor?
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-11-01 15:40:16 EDT (#)
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Whew. I was thinking of shots at the "clinic".
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2007-11-01 15:39:49 EDT (#)
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we may aswell broker the deal now
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2007-11-01 15:37:18 EDT (#)
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child support :D
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-11-01 15:35:12 EDT (#)
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I'd probably be paying later though, in some way...
Submitted by RyuFu (user info) at 2007-11-01 15:26:38 EDT (#)
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I love me some torrent...mmmmm......
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2007-11-01 15:25:26 EDT (#)
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ouch.
my services are charitable acts. no one pays.
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2007-11-01 15:21:57 EDT (#)
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Shlongy would make you an honest women.
Well honest in the sense that he would pay.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-11-01 15:02:12 EDT (#)
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GOOD ENOUGH FOR ME!
Let's make out now.
Submitted by Paralyzed_By_Hope (user info) at 2007-11-01 14:57:59 EDT (#)
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Haha. My cousin has a shirt that says, "I was going to save the world, but I got distracted by a shiny thing." Glad to know it's now a named disease.
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2007-11-01 14:56:32 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-11-01 14:54:55 EDT (#)
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Katy: I sure the shit am not gonna read all that but perhaps, in two sentences, you can explain to me why you care about this.
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shiny object syndrome.
it caught my attention for a nanosecond?
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2007-11-01 14:56:00 EDT (#)
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but i've never been a comedy writer :(
you were all just accidently entertained by my anger on my first post. which up to i will never live.
Submitted by skrapmetal (user info) at 2007-11-01 14:55:40 EDT (#)
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There is nothing on TV. Go outside. It's free.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2007-11-01 14:54:55 EDT (#)
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Katy: I sure the shit am not gonna read all that but perhaps, in two sentences, you can explain to me why you care about this.
Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2007-11-01 14:52:38 EDT (#)
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yawnfest...
this is like bitching about people wearing jewelry that cost as much as a house. yeah, i agree with you and all, but what does it really do to bitch about it? your purpose in complaining is to entertain me with your anger over the subject matter at hand. threaten to eat their children's spleens or something. make specualtions about their parentage. i dunno. just bring the funny, eh?
Submitted by Paralyzed_By_Hope (user info) at 2007-11-01 14:51:04 EDT (#)
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Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2007-11-01 14:48:00 EDT (#)
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i hate straight starbucks coffee. like a cup of regular coffee is stale and bitter. i can't get foofy drinks (which is what i go there for) for cheaper though :(
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Okay, straight starbucks coffee. Yeah, you're probably right on the gas station thing. I usually just think of those "foofy" drinks when someone says starbucks. Mmmmmm.....I <3 Starbucks.
Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2007-11-01 14:50:45 EDT (#)
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Like, maybe orgasmatron's cunt?
Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2007-11-01 14:50:27 EDT (#)
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Not YOUR cunt specifically, but your (plural).
Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2007-11-01 14:49:25 EDT (#)
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I read exactly 1/56 of this. I know this because I copy and pasted it into word then did a word count, did the math through some overkill algorithm and determined that you got this +2 based on the fact that no matter what you posted I could've guaranteed that orgasmatron (a man of few words with uber) would've been one of the first 5 on this post. Even as I type this, I'm sure the circle jerk beacon has been put in the sky and all the rest of the groupies will be along here shortly.
Don't you think it would be fun to see what a bottle of hydrogen peroxide would do if it were dumped in your cunt?
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2007-11-01 14:48:00 EDT (#)
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i hate straight starbucks coffee. like a cup of regular coffee is stale and bitter. i can't get foofy drinks (which is what i go there for) for cheaper though :(
Submitted by Paralyzed_By_Hope (user info) at 2007-11-01 14:47:15 EDT (#)
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Triangle: Can she get me a job?
Submitted by Paralyzed_By_Hope (user info) at 2007-11-01 14:46:28 EDT (#)
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Okay. I must point out that Starbucks has MUCH better coffee than gas stations. Besides smoking, it's the only vice I have.
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2007-11-01 14:46:08 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Sacrilicious (user info) at 2007-11-01 14:42:38 EDT (#)
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I don't know a lot about this issue, but could it have anything to do with the fact that what seems like the majority of programming is now 'reality-based' or 'unscripted,' and the writers for TV have nothing to do?
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actually most programming is still scripted. even day time talk shows have scripts. news shows too. reality shows do not outnumber scripted sitcoms. on top of that, even a good portion of the reality shows are scripted in some manner in order to promote drama in case there's none forthcoming.
plus they have to get some douche to read lines before every "challenge".
Submitted by triangle_man (user info) at 2007-11-01 14:44:27 EDT (#)
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Insult to injury
I know a "hollywood" writer, she gets paid great money for turning out schlock that pales in comparison to the average daily stuff on Uber.
take that
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2007-11-01 14:44:15 EDT (#)
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Submitted by laika (user info) at 2007-11-01 14:41:49 EDT (#)
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Im not going to look too far into the issue, but I would have to disagree with you.
I would guess that writers only earn a small fraction of what actors do. Yet good writing is at least as important to a show as good actors. If they need to strike to get a fairer portion of the revenues then let them.
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that's why i did the math. i don't care what they earn in relation to actors. actors are overpaid too. i'm annoyed that they earn a disproportionate amount to the quality of work they do.
it's like paying $5 at starbucks or $1 at the gas station and realizing the gas station had better coffee.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2007-11-01 14:43:31 EDT (#)
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Fuck them.
Submitted by Sacrilicious (user info) at 2007-11-01 14:42:38 EDT (#)
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I don't know a lot about this issue, but could it have anything to do with the fact that what seems like the majority of programming is now 'reality-based' or 'unscripted,' and the writers for TV have nothing to do?
Submitted by laika (user info) at 2007-11-01 14:41:49 EDT (#)
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Im not going to look too far into the issue, but I would have to disagree with you.
I would guess that writers only earn a small fraction of what actors do. Yet good writing is at least as important to a show as good actors. If they need to strike to get a fairer portion of the revenues then let them.
Also, your argument that "shows are crap anyways" is precisely a reason why they should strike for higher pay. If writers were paid better then more talent would be attracted to writing. Im sure a lot of people dont go into script writing now because you are so unlikely to succeed. But if they had lottery payouts like the top actors do, then more talented people would be willing to try.
Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2007-11-01 14:29:43 EDT (#)
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Say, aren't you only a few thousand hits shy of 100K?
Submitted by Paralyzed_By_Hope (user info) at 2007-11-01 14:29:34 EDT (#)
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Show me where to sign. I'm up for suing. I want every last penny back that I've spent on entertainment recently.
Oh, and isn't House just fucking awesome?