Fuck you switzerland.... (616 hits)
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Submitted by RockDocv2.0 (View user info) at 2008-01-28 12:35:30 EST
These, in summary, are the tenets of humanism. Promises of salvation are "illusory and harmful," ethics is "situational," and sexual activity between "consenting adults" is acceptable no matter who or what is involved. Sounds like "vice is nice" propaganda, doesn't it? Abortion, euthanasia, homosexuality, and even what some call the "last taboo"—incest—are acceptable according to humanism. As one author put it: "While humanity did not arise from the beasts, Humanism certainly stoops to their level" (Jones, 1981, 98[20]:309).
Is that it? Is that the best you can do? Find three things to rage against in the humanist manifesto II? The only real problems I can see with the manifesto and the humanist movement at large is that it presumes all human beings to be good people, willing to do what they can to advance their species. Humanism seems to forget that mankind is nasty, brutish, and inherently exhibits a very dark and evil side. Yet, these religious authors, usually of the christian variety, seem content to attack the humanist manifesto by focusing soley on the supposed attacks on the faithful and their families i.e; sexual deviance, abortion, assisted suicide, and the biggest rabble rouser of them all, denial of the basic tenets of christianity itself : salvation of the eternal soul.
What's the point of this? What's the point of rousing an entire slice of the american population against a set of ethics because of it's denial of religion and the attempt to embrace all forms of sexuality? What is it about these subjects that sends these people into such a tizzy?
Homosexuality was outlawed by the judeo-christian God because it prevented procreation, incest was outlawed because while procreation could still be done, the resulting mixture of the genetic code would undoubtedly be a damaged copy and result either in the end of a certain genetic line, or the propagation of congenital diseases and/or disabilities.
Abortion was outlawed because at the time, the Israelites needed all the children they could get their hands on, infant mortality was high, and needlessly destroying a developing human being would lead to a decrease in the population of workers/soldiers and the nation's ability to feed and defend itself would be hindered, however slightly.
Here is what I'm taking away from the Huamnist Mainfesto : "Why can't we all get along? Why can't we use our inherent intelligence to solve the world's problems?" Of course there a few things I disagree with; namely the naive belief that humanity could come together as one species, live peacefully and freely under a one world government, and embrace pacifism. Unfortunately, as I stated earlier, humanity is a flawed, warlike, species whose notion of pacifism is profiting off both sides of a conflict.
Fuck you switzerland.
In reality, if mankind were ever to be united under a single government, the heads of such a government would soon turn to totalitarianism (if such a thing had not already happenend), and attempt to enslave mankind for generations until a "glorious revolution" happened, and everything returned to the nation-state system under which we currently live. Mankind is not a creature that can be forced to live amiacably with one another without some sort of threat of violence hovering over their heads. Pacifism is a notion that, while honorable, is not attainable. At least not amongst the currently unelightened species that calls itself "civilized". The world prescribed by the Humanists is impossible with human beings at the helm, but the tenets of the movement at least need to be considered by all of humanity, not just be ignored because some phrases come into conflict with the moral values of a single religious sect.
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Submitted by TheUniter (user info) at 2008-01-29 18:04:09 EST (#)
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Submitted by TheUniter (user info) at 2008-01-29 18:04:00 EST (#)
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Submitted by Fungah (user info) at 2008-01-28 21:19:14 EST (#)
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I'm didn't read this, but the swiss are like Iceland's bastard cousins and I have a passionate and arbitrary hatred of Iceland.
Submitted by Tom (user info) at 2008-01-28 20:57:32 EST (#)
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Brain canser?
Submitted by Green_Ranger (user info) at 2008-01-28 20:19:58 EST (#)
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this post was so bad i think I got canser
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2008-01-28 16:06:19 EST (#)
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heh
"Freedom Cheese"!
I love this guy.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2008-01-28 15:50:31 EST (#)
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Tolerance is a crime when applied to evil.
I think Thomas Mann said that...
That is why Humanism blows.
Submitted by i_can_get_you_a_toe (user info) at 2008-01-28 15:21:55 EST (#)
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the chocolate ration has been increased.
Submitted by MudWhistle (user info) at 2008-01-28 14:55:01 EST (#)
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wouldn't faults show more in crowds?
as an individual a person can either be reasoned with or taught logic but as a group logic and reason fall to the wayside in light of fervor and emotion
Submitted by ilikesteak (user info) at 2008-01-28 14:51:21 EST (#)
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My main issue with humanism is, as you mentioned, pacifism cannot be forced. What seems to be overlooked is, the pacifism is supposed to be voluntary, rather than doing so under leadership.
Humans as a whole are good, but when individualised, the faults show through, and reflect poorly on the species. A prime example of faults is situational problems, caused out of a percieved necessity, but without any way of meeting these needs through acceptable channels. Situational problems occur in society if for no other reason than to show others what not to do. There will always be a deviant.
It's not Switzerland you have to be worried about, it's Sweeden.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2008-01-28 14:42:08 EST (#)
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wtf is this?
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2008-01-28 14:30:31 EST (#)
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what an halfwit.
french jokes were funny for like a few days before the iraq invasion.
then it just became so fucking redundant.
i bet you still slap your knee and cry with laughter when you see a clown with a water squirting flower.
"OMGOMG! CLOWN3D! AHHAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHA"
Submitted by rockdocc (user info) at 2008-01-28 14:20:11 EST (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2008-01-28 13:47:56 EST (#)
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Submitted by rockdocc (user info) at 2008-01-28 12:44:02 EST (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2008-01-28 12:38:25 EST (#)
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what an excellent piece of philosocrap
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you're mean, and french canadian. Therefore you smell bad, and are inherently a coward. Eh?
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did you just make a french joke? OMFG! HILARIOUS!
CUZ SPEAKING FRENCH MAKES U FRENCH RIGHT!?!?! SO WHEN I EAT SWISS CHEESE, I'M EATING REALLY FRENCH CHEESE?! WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUCK!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!11111
YESTERDAY I MOVED AND I NOW LIVE ON CLAIRE-FONTAINE STREET! I'M SO FRENCH!
À LA CLAIRE FONTAINE! M'EN ALLANT ME PROMENER! JE L'AI TROUVÉ SI BELLE, QUE JE M'Y SUIS BAIGNÉ!
stfu.
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well...yeah.
and it's "freedom cheese" get it right!
Submitted by rockdocc (user info) at 2008-01-28 14:17:19 EST (#)
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Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2008-01-28 14:04:53 EST (#)
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This was fucking kick ass.
You remind me of me. Are you my alter?
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prolly, i tried to be schlongy's alter, but he disowned me after i caught him playing "our holy father schlongy" at the local daycare...
dirty old man
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2008-01-28 14:04:53 EST (#)
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This was fucking kick ass.
You remind me of me. Are you my alter?
Submitted by forthewin (user info) at 2008-01-28 13:56:07 EST (#)
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Submitted by rockdocc (user info) at 2008-01-28 13:21:11 EST (#)
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Submitted by forthewin (user info) at 2008-01-28 13:11:09 EST (#)
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It was presented well enough to deserve at least some constructive criticism rather than -2 no comment.
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well, its all i can expect to do, i have an american high school diploma and about 6 college credits...
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I have no high school diploma. Or any college credits. Or anything indicating an education.
Submitted by HadToBeDone (user info) at 2008-01-28 13:52:43 EST (#)
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dear God that frenchy makes me laugh.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2008-01-28 13:47:56 EST (#)
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Submitted by rockdocc (user info) at 2008-01-28 12:44:02 EST (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2008-01-28 12:38:25 EST (#)
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what an excellent piece of philosocrap
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you're mean, and french canadian. Therefore you smell bad, and are inherently a coward. Eh?
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did you just make a french joke? OMFG! HILARIOUS!
CUZ SPEAKING FRENCH MAKES U FRENCH RIGHT!?!?! SO WHEN I EAT SWISS CHEESE, I'M EATING REALLY FRENCH CHEESE?! WHAT THE FUUUUUUUUUUCK!?!?!?!?!?!?!?!11111
YESTERDAY I MOVED AND I NOW LIVE ON CLAIRE-FONTAINE STREET! I'M SO FRENCH!
À LA CLAIRE FONTAINE! M'EN ALLANT ME PROMENER! JE L'AI TROUVÉ SI BELLE, QUE JE M'Y SUIS BAIGNÉ!
stfu.
Submitted by HadToBeDone (user info) at 2008-01-28 13:38:50 EST (#)
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You could have ended this halfway through the second paragraph.
Submitted by rockdocc (user info) at 2008-01-28 13:21:11 EST (#)
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Submitted by forthewin (user info) at 2008-01-28 13:11:09 EST (#)
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It was presented well enough to deserve at least some constructive criticism rather than -2 no comment.
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well, its all i can expect to do, i have an american high school diploma and about 6 college credits...
Submitted by forthewin (user info) at 2008-01-28 13:11:09 EST (#)
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It was presented well enough to deserve at least some constructive criticism rather than -2 no comment.
Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2008-01-28 13:07:41 EST (#)
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Same sex masturcats!
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2008-01-28 13:05:10 EST (#)
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Brilliant!
Submitted by rockdocc (user info) at 2008-01-28 12:59:58 EST (#)
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Submitted by Linus (user info) at 2008-01-28 12:55:14 EST (#)
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Submitted by rockdocc (user info) at 2008-01-28 12:50:56 EST (#)
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was it written badly? was the concept one that had already been discussed? Did I not present the topic in an....okay fashion?
what'd i do? besides present something in a somewhat intelligent fashion.
oh wait a minute, I posted it on here.....
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It's muck, wtf are you talking about, really?
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hmm...you're right. I think i forgot my original intention for the piece. I had hoped to tie it all up with the last paragraph, now that I look back on it, it did wander around a bit, eh?
ahh well, live and learn, thanks for the constructive bullshit and stuff. I'll keep it mind.
Submitted by Linus (user info) at 2008-01-28 12:55:14 EST (#)
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Submitted by rockdocc (user info) at 2008-01-28 12:50:56 EST (#)
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was it written badly? was the concept one that had already been discussed? Did I not present the topic in an....okay fashion?
what'd i do? besides present something in a somewhat intelligent fashion.
oh wait a minute, I posted it on here.....
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It's muck, wtf are you talking about, really?
Submitted by MudWhistle (user info) at 2008-01-28 12:54:00 EST (#)
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you expect too much out of your chosen audience
Submitted by rockdocc (user info) at 2008-01-28 12:50:56 EST (#)
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was it written badly? was the concept one that had already been discussed? Did I not present the topic in an....okay fashion?
what'd i do? besides present something in a somewhat intelligent fashion.
oh wait a minute, I posted it on here.....
Submitted by AngryforaLiving (user info) at 2008-01-28 12:50:35 EST (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2008-01-28 12:49:09 EST (#)
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Yep.
Submitted by rockdocc (user info) at 2008-01-28 12:44:02 EST (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2008-01-28 12:38:25 EST (#)
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what an excellent piece of philosocrap
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you're mean, and french canadian. Therefore you smell bad, and are inherently a coward. Eh?
meanie.
Submitted by MudWhistle (user info) at 2008-01-28 12:43:58 EST (#)
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i think in light of all this i have no other recourse than to slit my wrists and hope for a dramatic and meaningful death
Submitted by Linus (user info) at 2008-01-28 12:43:52 EST (#)
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Submitted by rockdocc (user info) at 2008-01-28 12:40:36 EST (#)
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I forgot situational ethics....
okay.
There is always going to be an exception to a rule, but moral absolutes based upon the three basic rights written in the American Declaration of Independence i.e; Life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness (or if one wants to original, life, liberty, and property) should be kept.
that is all
yay me!
Submitted by MudWhistle (user info) at 2008-01-28 12:40:14 EST (#)
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go outside, the Switzers cannot get you there
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2008-01-28 12:38:25 EST (#)
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what an excellent piece of philosocrap