Porn and Meat. (1945 hits)
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Submitted by Rob Berg (View user info) at 2008-03-15 06:14:07 EDT
SO there I was watchin' some documentary series on porn - Debbie Does Dallas, Again - and during the commercial I get nomadic and start wandering the channels.
Turns out there was this documentary on the broad who runs PETA. Some cranky old hippie-type who happens to be a true marvel of a human being...as far as I can tell after knowing of here for all of an hour now. I only caught about the last 10 minutes of it - but watching even that snippet of the movie I was affected.
(Watching bits and pieces of 'meat' also made me sad.)
I absolutely think there should be more ethical treatment of animals. Is there anyone out there following along who doesn't? I think we owe it to not only ourselves as aware citizens of the world and as compassionate human beings to guarantee the swift and ethical death of our fellow living creatures.
Are you with me so far?
An industry-wide cleanse needs to take place. We are talking metric fuckload of cash will be required to bring that about.
Someone get a hold of Bill Gates - didn't some crazy rich fella recently give him a couple billion dollars? Why not use a chunk of that and put a down payment on a global initiative to establish what the standard for ethical treatment of living creatures really is?
After all, we WILL be continuing to slaughter and consume massive quantities of glorious meat that we have literally grown to love. That will not change. I think it's best to pro actively hammer out the details of how to kill 'em better is in order.
I want to know that the succulent slab of meat that I chewed up and swallowed didn't previously have its legs broken with a sledgehammer after being drugged, improperly stored, force-fed horrible food, dragged a half mile, beaten, pissed on, sucker punched, wet willy'd and then slowly killed by a brutal combination of garden shears and a dull ninja blade.
How much cash do you think PETA has?
I think they should start figuring out how much it will actually cost to ethically kill the massive food supply we consume every day. Once those economic details are clear on HOW the food should be EthicAlly™ slaughtered - giant piles of money should be raised.
And it will cost Billions, no doubt. The industry is titanic - but if enough people got on-board this COULD be a problem solved in a relatively short amount of time.
Money is the only thing that will solve this problem. Massive incentives, buy-outs, plant closures. Fines. Brand new laws put in place and strictly enforced. New procedures religiously followed. Police task forces dedicated to regulating the entire industry - which will remain transparent both for ethical and health reasons.
Mo money MO MONEY
All producers should live up to a well established code of ethical conduct in the treatment of all organic food supplies.
LEGISLATION = EVEN MORE CASH
This has got to be a choice made for the people BY the people. We could do it if we really wanted. We have been known to really suck, though.
Salvation ain't cheap.
By the way - all you Vegtastic folks out there need to embrace the notion that eating meat is NOT barbaric, it fucking rocks. If you want no part of it, fine eat your delicious salad and fuck off with your judgment while I cut into this beautiful slab of well cooked dead animal. I don't look down on your alternative lifestyle, respect mine, hippie.
If you already do - god bless ya.
www.meatspin.com <- NSFW
www.meat.org/ <- NSFI (Not Safe For Ignorance.)
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Submitted by monkeyswithguns (user info) at 2008-04-04 09:27:01 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Brdn_Nkd (user info) at 2008-04-04 08:40:39 EDT (#)
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Submitted by ilikesteak (user info) at 2008-03-29 16:11:27 EDT (#)
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I had a feeling you were >< close to making a tribute post about me.
:)
Submitted by Abbey (user info) at 2008-03-20 19:23:03 EDT (#)
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I don't eat meat for two reasons. First of all, I was raised on a farm/ranch. Things are not pretty there. You see dying calves being tossed aside simply because they were not 'worthy' enough to be kept alive.
Our fun was making a chicken go asleep. You can tuck their head under a wing and spin around a few times and they just go dormant. It's the weirdest thing. That was our fun. Ugh. Life is great growing up in South Dakota.
Secondly, I just don't care for the taste. Not beef...chicken...fish. I'll take my beans, tofu and rice any day over that.
Abbey
Submitted by PepsiCoke (user info) at 2008-03-20 19:05:39 EDT (#)
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*then
Submitted by PepsiCoke (user info) at 2008-03-20 18:30:54 EDT (#)
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"""Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2008-03-20 02:05:25 EDT (#)
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PepsiCoke, if PETA cared about animals... why would they kill a whole bunch of them after telling people if they were going to good homes? They can't even afford their own dumpster to throw them in, too! Wow! That's "caring". Humane = death. I get it now."""
First of all, I don't support PETA. I don't think they are sane people who have given much thought to how they are going to accomplish their goals. They are in way over their heads trying to accomplish impossible things. That whole animal killing thing was one instance of them being overwhelmed from trying to do the impossible. If you are going to make the backwards claim that PETA doesn't care about animals you will need a LOT more evidence to support that. I know people who are in PETA and are fucking batshit crazy. If you think PETA is an organization made up of people that hate animals than you are even more batshit.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2008-03-20 03:34:25 EDT (#)
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Submitted by AsshOly (user info) at 2008-03-20 03:05:20 EDT (#)
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i'm going to register a second username and hold conversations with myself because uber is fucking boring late at night.
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Submitted by joedaddy (user info) at 2008-03-20 03:13:38 EDT (#)
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yeah, it's not like the old days...
or nights i should say
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I was just thinking the same thing.
It still has it's few merits, though.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2008-03-20 03:28:00 EDT (#)
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Submitted by AsshOly (user info) at 2008-03-20 02:50:22 EDT (#)
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i had a wonderful discussion with two fine sorority ladies tonight (who happen to be vegetarians) on the topic of the methods by which pigs are killed in slaughterhouses. i explained in chilling detail how they are hung by their hind legs and stuck in the neck by a screwdriver-like tool and left to let the blood drain out. my aim was to convert them, but they still wouldnt have any of the pork roast i was eating.
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See?
And I think something should be done about that...
...that is one click away and dead fucking easy for me to navigate.
Otherwise, what was on TV tonight? New CSI!
SA-WEEET.
Submitted by AsshOly (user info) at 2008-03-20 03:17:21 EDT (#)
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you're right. and really, i was only here for about a year when it was always hoppin up in this joint. just a little while ago, people like rad and merlina were on this stupid website all night long so i had people to talk to but now i just talk to myself.
my grandma died last night :(
i should go to bed.
Submitted by joedaddy (user info) at 2008-03-20 03:13:38 EDT (#)
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yeah, it's not like the old days...
or nights i should say
Submitted by AsshOly (user info) at 2008-03-20 03:05:20 EDT (#)
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i'm going to register a second username and hold conversations with myself because uber is fucking boring late at night.
Submitted by joedaddy (user info) at 2008-03-20 03:01:14 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Linus (user info) at 2008-03-15 14:59:05 EDT (#)
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Supporting PETA is retarded.
Prioritizing animals over humans also retarded.
Submitted by AsshOly (user info) at 2008-03-20 02:50:22 EDT (#)
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i had a wonderful discussion with two fine sorority ladies tonight (who happen to be vegetarians) on the topic of the methods by which pigs are killed in slaughterhouses. i explained in chilling detail how they are hung by their hind legs and stuck in the neck by a screwdriver-like tool and left to let the blood drain out. my aim was to convert them, but they still wouldnt have any of the pork roast i was eating.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2008-03-20 02:05:25 EDT (#)
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PepsiCoke, if PETA cared about animals... why would they kill a whole bunch of them after telling people if they were going to good homes? They can't even afford their own dumpster to throw them in, too! Wow! That's "caring". Humane = death. I get it now.
Well, can I "care" about PETA members in the same way?
Reference: http://www.petakillsanimals.com/
The nazi in charge of Peta claims to have never had a pet in their life. Many militant nutty PETA fools claim that merely owning a pet is wrong. Fuck those weirdos.
Just because I think most folks in Peta are fucking freaks doesn't mean I disagree with parts of their message towards treatment of animals.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2008-03-20 01:27:29 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Method (user info) at 2008-03-19 23:00:54 EDT (#)
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Here's a present for you, Rob. It made me pee on myself today, I thought I'd share with you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOfZPZJHnKg
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haha
Them silly Japanese folks have the craziest fucking game shows.
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2008-03-19 23:00:54 EDT (#)
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Here's a present for you, Rob. It made me pee on myself today, I thought I'd share with you.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YOfZPZJHnKg
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2008-03-19 18:26:49 EDT (#)
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"At least I'm starting to understand Rob Berg's angle"
I have to admit I am surprised and pleased at this development.
"he has way too much faith in humanity."
True, yet still manage to hold us in contempt. Enigmatically frustrating.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2008-03-19 18:24:36 EDT (#)
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stabkill is like sean hannity.
"you're a lunatic, a raving lunatic, a leftist raving lunatic, you're a nutty nut!"
if you don't have anything witty or intelligent to say, how about you shut your fucking trap?
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2008-03-19 18:00:43 EDT (#)
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I see that PepsiCoke is the latest raving moonbat bleeding-heart moron to find their way to ubersite. At least I'm starting to understand Rob Berg's angle, even if he has way too much faith in humanity. PepsiCoke is just a lunatic or the alter of someone letting loose with their lunatic side. If the latter is true, at least that's better than believing that bullshit.
Submitted by hidden101 (user info) at 2008-03-19 17:52:45 EDT (#)
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I VOTE FOR THE BOLT GUN
Submitted by PepsiCoke (user info) at 2008-03-19 01:49:06 EDT (#)
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"""Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2008-03-18 10:24:18 EDT (#)
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PETA doesn't care about animals as much as they hate people who aren't as nutty as themselves."""
You're stupid and impulsive if you actually think that. PETA people are usually total dicks because they let themselves become obsessed with their cause to the point of insanity. If you actually think they don't care about animals then you're more brainless than any piece of ground beef I've ever eaten.
"""What exactly is humane killing anyway? Bringing a cow to the slaughterhouse and injecting it with morphine while saying "You'll make it. You're going back home. Everything is going to be O.K." The cow smiles just before fading away into an eternal sleep...
Wonderful!"""
Humane is instant death by a powerful, foolproof bolt-gun shot to the brain.
Inhumane is sledgehammering a cow's legs, slitting its throat and letting it slowly choke to death on its own blood.
WOW THAT WAS CONFUSING
Idiot.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2008-03-18 10:24:18 EDT (#)
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PETA doesn't care about animals as much as they hate people who aren't as nutty as themselves.
If PETA could, they'd force everyone in the world to be a vegan that didn't own pets. And after this happens, everyone will wear a surgical mask so they don't accidentally inhale bugs.
What exactly is humane killing anyway? Bringing a cow to the slaughterhouse and injecting it with morphine while saying "You'll make it. You're going back home. Everything is going to be O.K." The cow smiles just before fading away into an eternal sleep...
Wonderful!
Submitted by celtic1888 (user info) at 2008-03-18 07:59:00 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2008-03-18 02:32:21 EDT (#)
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Submitted by DasHeer (user info) at 2008-03-18 01:18:57 EDT (#)
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you seem like an incompetent fuck i'm sorry to say
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LIAR.
Submitted by DasHeer (user info) at 2008-03-18 01:18:57 EDT (#)
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you seem like an incompetent fuck i'm sorry to say
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2008-03-18 00:40:15 EDT (#)
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my suggestion is to make it legal to perform experiments on animal-rights activists...let's see how far that gets us
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2008-03-17 17:38:06 EDT (#)
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mmm.
BBQ.
Submitted by Maddog (user info) at 2008-03-17 17:34:31 EDT (#)
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Submitted by ubetidid (user info) at 2008-03-17 16:54:42 EDT (#)
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i had Pierce's BBQ for lunch.
yum yum yummmy
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In Lightfoot? They have the best pork barbeque I have ever had.
Submitted by ubetidid (user info) at 2008-03-17 16:54:42 EDT (#)
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i had Pierce's BBQ for lunch.
yum yum yummmy
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2008-03-17 16:35:34 EDT (#)
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Submitted by hidden101 (user info) at 2008-03-16 12:41:52 EDT (#)
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i agree that animals should be slaughtered ethically but i really don't care about animals enough to have my tax dollars go to programs that police and regulate how animals are treated.
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I don't think it should be tax dollars either.
That kind of stringent regulation should be funded by voluntary donations from interested parties.
That is why I think the key is to figure out the cost - once that figure is achieved, raise that money through donation and then begin the process of upgrading the system.
On one level it is not much different than upgrading from leaded gas to unleaded gas.
Also, the food we are eating is not as good for us as it could be - mass farming of meat and limited inspection and regulation of the process has lead to poor quality feeding, suspect upbringing, and in many cases elevated levels of steroids. Do we REALLY want to eat this kind of crap?
Most would answer 'no'... but 99.94% of those people will take another bite, swallow and shrug.
Submitted by Yozz (user info) at 2008-03-17 10:36:37 EDT (#)
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That is a fantasy of mine - handjob in a record store.
Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2008-03-17 08:24:34 EDT (#)
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Bravo Rob, bravo.
Submitted by orphelia (user info) at 2008-03-16 19:31:51 EDT (#)
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Ahahahaha :)
Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2008-03-16 19:06:53 EDT (#)
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Submitted by orphelia (user info) at 2008-03-16 18:39:21 EDT (#)
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I am highly educated in this field, I am a girl. We watch everything we eat - except the munters.
I do eat red meat occasionaly, bacon butties, beef and lamb, but personally, I feel bloated and sluggish after. Today, our sunday roast was a nut and tofu bake with five portions of steamed veg and poppy seed scone with stewed fruit and custard. That is well proportioned.
I don't listen to any warnings the government suggest - I wouldn't eat anything if I did. I simply follow saturated fat/calorie content and use common sense.
You can't say red meat has the same health benefits of say a fresh tuna steak or a chicken breast with steamed veg.
Oh Bub, let's quit this discussion and have oral. :)
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Oral would disgust you. My wang is not tuna or chicken, but 100% pork. A small serving.
Submitted by orphelia (user info) at 2008-03-16 18:39:21 EDT (#)
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I am highly educated in this field, I am a girl. We watch everything we eat - except the munters.
I do eat red meat occasionaly, bacon butties, beef and lamb, but personally, I feel bloated and sluggish after. Today, our sunday roast was a nut and tofu bake with five portions of steamed veg and poppy seed scone with stewed fruit and custard. That is well proportioned.
I don't listen to any warnings the government suggest - I wouldn't eat anything if I did. I simply follow saturated fat/calorie content and use common sense.
You can't say red meat has the same health benefits of say a fresh tuna steak or a chicken breast with steamed veg.
Oh Bub, let's quit this discussion and have oral. :)
Submitted by JustAnotherStudent (user info) at 2008-03-16 18:26:35 EDT (#)
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When I was at school in Mexico, I lived with a host family, and we only got meat maybe 2 times a week- some of the students in other houses didn't get meat for the entire three weeks we were there.
My first lasagna, loaded with browned ground beef, that I ate when I got back to Tennessee was one of the best meals I have ever eaten.
I would love to not focus so much on meat (despite the cravings, my energy level was really high in Mexico thanks largely to the diet/ increased exercise). However, it's not worth having to put up with the insane nagging of my boyfriend, who has to have meat twice a day or he gets cranky.
And I refuse to even go close to soymilk or fake eggs. Fuck that shit.
Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2008-03-16 18:07:16 EDT (#)
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Submitted by orphelia (user info) at 2008-03-16 16:10:37 EDT (#)
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Suggested intake? Suggested by whom? Don't tell me the Government
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No, not the government. An oncologist. Not working for the NHS either.
Eat large quantities of red meat can cause - bad breath, constipation, slow digestion, headaches, increase in some types of cancer. To suggest you can live healthily on a diet of mostly red meat is both naive and foolish.
Variety is the key to health. Variety in both what you eat and the kind of exercise you take.
I am right :)
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Do some research on cranberries, coffee, certain discontinued sweeteners, etc. Doctors and governments of all types change their minds regularly. I didn't say "mostly" red meat. I said basically five times per week. That's out of 21 meals. You aren't right, nor are you educated in the field.
To obtain all of the amino acids found in one serving of meat you need to mix grains, beans, and veggies. Just go kill a pig.
Submitted by orphelia (user info) at 2008-03-16 16:10:37 EDT (#)
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Suggested intake? Suggested by whom? Don't tell me the Government
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No, not the government. An oncologist. Not working for the NHS either.
Eat large quantities of red meat can cause - bad breath, constipation, slow digestion, headaches, increase in some types of cancer. To suggest you can live healthily on a diet of mostly red meat is both naive and foolish.
Variety is the key to health. Variety in both what you eat and the kind of exercise you take.
I am right :)
Submitted by darko (user info) at 2008-03-16 15:28:11 EDT (#)
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Submitted by bart (user info) at 2008-03-16 15:23:49 EDT (#)
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I don't know which I like better
Submitted by bart (user info) at 2008-03-16 15:23:49 EDT (#)
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I don't know which I like better
Submitted by PepsiCoke (user info) at 2008-03-16 15:10:20 EDT (#)
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Submitted by PepsiCoke (user info) at 2008-03-16 15:10:11 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2008-03-16 13:34:54 EDT (#)
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Suggested intake? Suggested by whom? Don't tell me the Government. In the United States the "Required Allotment" of vitamin C, for example, has been changed and adjusted many times over the last fourty years, with NO SCIENTIFIC DATA!! It is political. Help out your cousin who grows oranges. Or piss off your ex who owns grapefruit stock.
You can eat red meat five times per week and still remain very healthy. The problem is, most morons eat the steak along with french fries or a baked potato or onion rings. No veggies. Vegetables provide many, many elements in the human diet of which even some vegetarians are not aware. Also, yogurt, buttermilk, etc. will place the proper digestive bacteria into your gut to help process that dead cow or pig. Exercise is essential to health. And beer. :)
Off the main topic of the post? Sure. Rob? Fuck him.
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Everything and I mean everything that is found in red meat can be found in other kinds of foods. Honestly, a good breakfast cereal will contain just about all the valuable nutrients that you can get from meat. There is simply no real argument for meat except for how good it tastes, which is the reason I still eat it on occasion.
I agree that you shouldn't base your eating habits around the recommendations of the USDA. The scientific community has responded to the Food Pyramid and also to the Atkins diet and all of the other fad diets. I tend to go with what GOOD science says. It can be tricky for the layman like myself to differentiate between good and bad science. Carl Sagan helps. Good science is never wrong, so if I think I see it then I go with it.
I tend to refer to the Harvard School of Public Health. Their "Healthy Eating Pyramid" (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Healthy_eating_pyramid) says that red meat should be eaten as sparingly as possible. It suggests 4 to 8 oz. of fish, poultry, or eggs per day.
Submitted by whiskey_jack (user info) at 2008-03-16 15:01:29 EDT (#)
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Bleh I don't get the people who try to claim ethics to the meat industry. Too much emotion and passion and not enough logic. I do however agree with why the controversial philospher and bioethicist Singer is a vegetarian. That is that the meat industry is so uneffecient in feeding people and wastes an insane amount of resources that could be easily used to feed the world and end world hunger. I'd do it too but I just really like eating things that someone might have once loved.
Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2008-03-16 13:34:54 EDT (#)
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Submitted by orphelia (user info) at 2008-03-16 09:57:45 EDT (#)
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When your heart fails from lack of iron found in a diet with red meat 2-3 times a week come talk to me.
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How ignorant.
Spinach, broccoli, brussel sprouts, asparagus, egg yolks, nuts, dried fruit, tofu, seafood and beans are all great sources of iron but unlike red meat won't - clog your arteries, take ages to move around your digestive system, and have other nutrient value.
Suggested intake of red meat in this country is once a week. Everything in moderation is healthy but 3 times a week is excessive. As a family, we eat red meat no more than once a week, and meat only a few times a week (chicken, turkey ususally). The rest of our meals are vegetarian based or fish based and I have two of the healthiest kids ever because of it. As a snack they choose a peach or dried apricots and they eat every kind of vegetable I present to them. I am sure this is largley because the part meat plays in our diets isn't as essential as vegetables and fruit.
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Suggested intake? Suggested by whom? Don't tell me the Government. In the United States the "Required Allotment" of vitamin C, for example, has been changed and adjusted many times over the last fourty years, with NO SCIENTIFIC DATA!! It is political. Help out your cousin who grows oranges. Or piss off your ex who owns grapefruit stock.
You can eat red meat five times per week and still remain very healthy. The problem is, most morons eat the steak along with french fries or a baked potato or onion rings. No veggies. Vegetables provide many, many elements in the human diet of which even some vegetarians are not aware. Also, yogurt, buttermilk, etc. will place the proper digestive bacteria into your gut to help process that dead cow or pig. Exercise is essential to health. And beer. :)
Off the main topic of the post? Sure. Rob? Fuck him.
Submitted by hidden101 (user info) at 2008-03-16 12:41:52 EDT (#)
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i agree that animals should be slaughtered ethically but i really don't care about animals enough to have my tax dollars go to programs that police and regulate how animals are treated. call me selfish, but i'd rather my tax dollars go to more things to help us humans. i'm not entirely opposed to taking money from other budgets (like maybe we could end one of our fucking wars and take the money from that budget, huh?).
also, i don't understand PETA's logic. i get that they don't want people to eat meat if it means animals were mistreated. what i don't understand is their opposition to ANY meat eating whatsoever. i don't know if they've been living under a rock, but they have failed to notice that many animals are carnivorous. it's just the way of the world. why should we ignore our natural instinct to eat other animals? fuck that.
Submitted by orphelia (user info) at 2008-03-16 09:57:45 EDT (#)
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When your heart fails from lack of iron found in a diet with red meat 2-3 times a week come talk to me.
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How ignorant.
Spinach, broccoli, brussel sprouts, asparagus, egg yolks, nuts, dried fruit, tofu, seafood and beans are all great sources of iron but unlike red meat won't - clog your arteries, take ages to move around your digestive system, and have other nutrient value.
Suggested intake of red meat in this country is once a week. Everything in moderation is healthy but 3 times a week is excessive. As a family, we eat red meat no more than once a week, and meat only a few times a week (chicken, turkey ususally). The rest of our meals are vegetarian based or fish based and I have two of the healthiest kids ever because of it. As a snack they choose a peach or dried apricots and they eat every kind of vegetable I present to them. I am sure this is largley because the part meat plays in our diets isn't as essential as vegetables and fruit.
Submitted by Entaran (user info) at 2008-03-16 08:31:40 EDT (#)
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Submitted by PepsiCoke (user info) at 2008-03-16 03:08:52 EDT (#)
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People need to eat less meat, for starters. Vegetarianism is a very good thing. I eat fish and seafood but the only other meat I eat is a steak a few times a year. I tried vegetarianism for a couple years and it got to the point where it was noticeably hampering my quality of life. I think I've found a great balance right now.
Meat is honestly too cheap. It is the focus of most American meals, which I think is indulgent. Two servings of meat per day is definitely more than enough.
People have the right to eat as much meat as they want and I don't think anyone should interfere with that right, but I definitely agree that we should dig into our wallets to fund less cruel and more environmentally friendly slaughter practices.
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When your heart fails from lack of iron found in a diet with red meat 2-3 times a week come talk to me.
Humans are OMNIVORES. Wanna live the way nature intended? Eat meat. You're supposed to. It's why you've got canines and incisors (types of teeth for the unintelligent)
Submitted by orphelia (user info) at 2008-03-16 04:26:35 EDT (#)
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Submitted by PepsiCoke (user info) at 2008-03-16 03:08:52 EDT (#)
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People need to eat less meat, for starters. Vegetarianism is a very good thing. I eat fish and seafood but the only other meat I eat is a steak a few times a year. I tried vegetarianism for a couple years and it got to the point where it was noticeably hampering my quality of life. I think I've found a great balance right now.
Meat is honestly too cheap. It is the focus of most American meals, which I think is indulgent. Two servings of meat per day is definitely more than enough.
People have the right to eat as much meat as they want and I don't think anyone should interfere with that right, but I definitely agree that we should dig into our wallets to fund less cruel and more environmentally friendly slaughter practices.
Submitted by kuroneko_sama (user info) at 2008-03-16 01:25:33 EDT (#)
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i was actually quite saddened to learn that rob zombie is a vegitarian (trauma from a video he saw in highschool about meat processing or some shit like that) and did a psa for peta promoting alternatives to thanksgiving turkey
...yes THAT Rob Zombie
i was a little shocked
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2008-03-15 18:48:38 EDT (#)
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Again, I don't support PETA - I don't even remember the name of the documentary or the lady's name who it was on - but some of the images are haunting, and the fact that 'most' or 'some' slaughterhouses comply with what we would standardly define as ethical still means that there is a wide margin for needless abuse and suffering.
Seems to me that we either become overwhelmed with the familiar feeling of helplessness (What can I do?) or continue to embrace the more common western 'civilized' response of simply not giving a shit. Either way the majority of humanity will continue to not make it their problem so long as the convenience of having other people kill and process our food remains uninterupted.
Talking about it on a degenerate website is somewhat useless... and I certainly don't expect anything monumental to come from this posting, but it seems to me there is an outlet that can be tapped into utilizing the other social networking sites.
And yes, even as anti social as this site can certainly be, at times, it still qualifies.
Why couldn't a movement be started at the basest of levels? My words I have used here are rough and arrogant... but all it would take is some writer type to smooth out the bumps and re-form the core idea into something more palatable. Re-post it and then everyone start 'digging' it or 'stumble upon'ing it.
meh, just a thought while I wait here for the movers to arrive. Moving sucks, by the way.
Submitted by whiskey_jack (user info) at 2008-03-15 18:26:58 EDT (#)
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Well they usually are pretty ethically cleaned. At the big slaughters houses I think they simple line the cows head up and a metal spike is shot into their brains with air pressure. They die instantly, and there's little clean up.
Oh and PETA is full of crap. They're against pets, medical research(even though one of their top members uses insulin), and like to whine a lot with no solution. Also they take in animals just like the ASPCA except I believe they actually kill more(about 2/3rds of them).
Submitted by SkullBiter (user info) at 2008-03-15 16:27:46 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Linus (user info) at 2008-03-15 14:59:05 EDT (#)
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Supporting PETA is retarded.
Prioritizing animals over humans also retarded.
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Yes, but animals are also delicious.
Humans are too, its just less accepted...
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2008-03-15 16:11:04 EDT (#)
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mmmmm meat
Submitted by HellRazer (user info) at 2008-03-15 15:57:04 EDT (#)
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I hate PETA. But I do agree that animals shouldn't be tortured before they become my McNuggets\Whopper\Baconator.
Submitted by Ltap (user info) at 2008-03-15 15:48:45 EDT (#)
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Auto PETA -2.
The slaughterhouse images just don't disturb me, at all. What is so bad? Do you think animals that die in the wild (eaten by other animals or by accident) die "ethically"?
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2008-03-15 15:23:24 EDT (#)
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Ignoring the problem: also retarded.
I think PETA attracts nutjobs and freaks - and I don't support the current organization... BUT I think the ethical treatment of all living creatures is a fundamental responsibility of humanity.
The key is in defining what is 'ethical'... especially considering we WILL be eating them.
Submitted by Linus (user info) at 2008-03-15 14:59:05 EDT (#)
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Supporting PETA is retarded.
Prioritizing animals over humans also retarded.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2008-03-15 14:22:11 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Wompom (user info) at 2008-03-15 08:55:46 EDT (#)
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Humans are being tortured in other countries for their beliefs and you're concerned about the ethical treatment of food.
www.persecution.com
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Concern is not linear, nor is it finite.
Just becauase I have an opinion on the ethical treatment of animals, doesn't mean my convictions for human rights is lessened in any capacity.
Arguably, the amount of torture, agony and unfair treatment along our domestic food chain is far more significant than what we inflict on our own people - BUT both are massive problems and belittling one isn't going to make the other any less tragic.
So yes, I am concerned about the ethical treatment of food... that general LACK of concern for life is rather similar to the lack of compassion for our fellow human beings. There are a lot of things we need to change, identifying them and empowering the notion that something SHOULD be done is far more effective than simple marginalization.
Submitted by TheBrad (user info) at 2008-03-15 14:14:14 EDT (#)
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that has to be the most awesome set of pictures i have ever seen. it made me hungry and horny.
Submitted by Sacrilicious (user info) at 2008-03-15 13:51:19 EDT (#)
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I want to talk more about this later, but in short I agree with you.
Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2008-03-15 13:38:48 EDT (#)
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"have its legs broken with a sledgehammer after being drugged, improperly stored, force-fed horrible food, dragged a half mile, beaten, pissed on, sucker punched, wet willy'd and then slowly killed by a brutal combination of garden shears and a dull ninja blade."
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That's how Willie is going to slaughter Herr Berg.
Submitted by HotWillie (user info) at 2008-03-15 13:27:19 EDT (#)
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you are one boring motherfucker
i'd rather read bubba's erotic fiction
Submitted by SkullBiter (user info) at 2008-03-15 12:40:32 EDT (#)
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Yeah.
Submitted by Sphagnum (user info) at 2008-03-15 12:25:25 EDT (#)
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Lots of words and pictures that didn't really mean anything to me.
Submitted by ghola (user info) at 2008-03-15 12:16:37 EDT (#)
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I broke free on a saturday morning
I put the pedal too the floor
headed north on mills ave
and listened to the engine roar
my broken house behind me
and good things ahead
Submitted by beer-turtle (user info) at 2008-03-15 09:37:53 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Wompom (user info) at 2008-03-15 08:55:46 EDT (#)
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Humans are being tortured in other countries for their beliefs and you're concerned about the ethical treatment of food.
www.persecution.com
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Key words... OTHER COUNTRIES.
In short: I don't give a shit.
As for our food, the PETA whackjobs are city folk who have no clue just how stupid cows are. As for ethically killing them on the way to becoming food. I would prefer my food to be handled humanely, and with a little cruelty as possible. Both of my parents were born on farms, and my Aunt and Uncle raise livestock to sell for meat. I have been to the small slaughter houses (although watching an Amish Butcher is pretty nifty albeit still alittle gross) that were run well cleanly and well, and I have seen the commercial operations that are less so. The PETA hypocrisy is so fucked up though... VEGAN VEGAN VEGAN they scream, until you point out that rodents and bugs are living creatures too, which die by the millions (and many bugs even find their ways into the grinders and the VEGAN FOOD OH NOES!!!) in field based agriculture.
Bottom line is this, you don't eat mishandled meat.
Submitted by Wompom (user info) at 2008-03-15 08:55:46 EDT (#)
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Humans are being tortured in other countries for their beliefs and you're concerned about the ethical treatment of food.
www.persecution.com
Submitted by HurtByTheSun (user info) at 2008-03-15 07:34:16 EDT (#)
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Fuck Peta right in the ass. The woman who runs it is terrifying and gives money to the ALF.