Do Gentlemen Still Exist? (2511 hits)
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Submitted by Jack McCallum (View user info) at 2008-06-05 13:16:50 EDT
Not on Über, of course not. No, I'm talking about the real world.
It's a fluke that I always find a seat on the train at each end of my commute from the burbs to San Francisco and back again, and I always give it up if there is an older lady or a pregnant woman who needs one... unless you are grotesquely fast-food-gorging fat or you are carrying 60 lbs of shit in Neiman-Marcus bags. Then you're on your own, babe.
For the last few weeks on my twice-daily 35 minute train ride, I've been giving up my seat to women every time. At first I started doing it because (as Wilford Brimley would say) it's the right thing to do, but lately it has become a social experiment in miniature.
I generally see the same people on the train every day, and it amazes me how often an elderly lady or someone walking with a cane will get on the train and none of the men will offer a seat. Call me old-fashioned, but in that instance every able-bodied shitsack on that car should be on his feet in an instant. Yet most of them just sit there.
I've been making a point of getting off my ass and offering my seat in the hope that some of the other guys who are regulars on that train do the same after seeing me do it day in and day out. It has not happened yet.
Look, I get as furious as the next guy when I'm going through the front doors at work and casually hold the door for someone who is either coming or going and that someone turns out to be one of those feminist cuntinistas who insists on stepping over to another door so she can open that one for herself because she is an empowered woman and no mere manbitch is going to imply that she is weak or devalue her as a person by taking away her right to open her own doors. A lady will thank a gentleman for that small courtesy just as I will thank any woman who holds a door for me. Like the majority of San Francisco residents, the cuntinista has to make a statement in every aspect of her life, and I don't have time for that psychotic bullshit.
I am a straight white agnostic man with no mental or physical defects. I have no statement to make.*
I hold doors for guys and girls and, hey, I'm not bi, I'm just polite... but if a man or a woman breezes through without a thank you I'll respond with my usual I'm not a doorman, dickhead.
However, that kind if irritation is no excuse for failing to offer your seat to a lady on the train. So I'm asking you, Über, do gentlemen still exist?
If any of the Überladies respond with, "Oh, my husband/fiancée/boyfriend is a perfect gentleman, he does the dishes and brings me flowers and always makes sure I am seated first," remember, he's probably doing it for the pussy. If he does it for other women, then he is a gentleman. Or he is probably doing for their pussy. If he does it for older ladies or women with disabilities, then he is a true gentleman. Or a goddamned pervert.
I figure it's only a matter of time before this becomes the thing that finally sets me off and I carry a gun onto the train some morning, going Bernie fucking Goetz on their lazy asses after screaming, "Don't want to get up? Stay down then, motherfuckers!"
* If I put that on a t-shirt... does it qualify as a statement?
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Submitted by Doodles (user info) at 2008-08-25 21:09:33 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Doodles (user info) at 2008-08-25 21:04:57 EDT (#)
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Just to further my point:
RACISTS/DISCRIMINATORY/ANTI-OBAMA(goes back to racist)ETC... POSTS BY JACK:
1. http://www.ubersite.com/m/118305
2. http://www.ubersite.com/m/118112
3. http://www.ubersite.com/m/118090
4. http://www.ubersite.com/m/117913
5. http://www.ubersite.com/m/117808
6. http://www.ubersite.com/m/117641
7. http://www.ubersite.com/m/117614
8. http://www.ubersite.com/m/117591
9. http://www.ubersite.com/m/117554
10. http://www.ubersite.com/m/117505
11. http://www.ubersite.com/m/117364 (the very fact that you LIKE scalia)
12. http://www.ubersite.com/m/117316
13. http://www.ubersite.com/m/117303
14. http://www.ubersite.com/m/117258
15. http://www.ubersite.com/m/117174
16. http://www.ubersite.com/m/117136
17. http://www.ubersite.com/m/117084
17 OUT OF YOUR LAST 40 POSTS.
you have issues.
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2008-06-10 18:22:04 EDT (#)
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Not to mention the facts that using your turn signals is mandated by law AND letting the guy behind you know what you are doing before you do it can help avoid nasty accident. Common courtesy AND common sense.
Still, it would be cool to mount a pair of .50 machine guns on my truck and drive through the wreckage of people who piss me off...
Submitted by Ejryuu (user info) at 2008-06-10 17:48:06 EDT (#)
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Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2008-06-06 11:59:31 EDT (#)
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It's not something our (American) society values at this point. How many Big Macs have consideration and decency sold? Nada. Not a single curly fry.
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Something like the above. I don't think that society has any room for legitimate gentlemen. You're not shown any respect or consideration for opening doors half the time or pulling out (har har) your date's chair or being generally polite. If anything, now you're labled as a pervert or trying to put a person in their place. The world's moved on in nearly all cases and no one has time for kindness, it seems.
Today I forgot to make lunch on my way out to work. As a result, I had to go to Taco Bell. When it came time for the guy at the window to give me my food, he stuck a rigid arm out holding the bag. No eye contact, no "Have a nice day", no "Thank you" or anything of the sort. I said "Thanks a lot" (without being rude or sarcastic) and didn't get a reply. But that's typical. These days, I'm more concerned about not getting spit in my food or the clowns getting my order correct (they forgot the fire sauce!) than whether or not the employee will give me a smile and be courteous.
I don't see Jack as looking for a pat on the back for doing what's common courtesey and I don't think that a few folks replying are understanding exactly WHY he's frustrated and makes borderline unstable comments about revenge. To me, at least, the frustration part makes sense in terms of that these simple acts of humanity are being ignored by ninety percent of human beings. And it's okay to be upset about that. I get cranky when jerks on the road don't put on their turn signals. It's something everyone can do that would make others' lives easier but yet so many people show complete disregard for their fellow man.
This is as close to a legitimate discussion on uber that I've seen in years.
What's the difference between common courtesey, chivalry and being a gentleman? Cram the dictionary definitions. I'd really like to know.
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2008-06-10 17:02:19 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2008-06-10 16:45:21 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2008-06-10 15:14:38 EDT (#)
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You know, I like Bigmike. I really do. But sometimes he portrays himself as so self-righteous that you have to wonder if he isn't a complete bastard in the real world.
I like you too Jack. I just don't like your viewpoint on retribution when people don't acknowledge your politeness
Seriously. Why not just do stuff for others because it makes you feel good?
If you met me, you would think I was the worlds biggest dork. But I do practice what I preach. I don't beep when people cut me off with their cars. I don't flip people off when they do something I don't like. I do think about doing bad things to bad people, but I rarely follow through on those things.
I don't have to. I'm scary looking enough without putting on my angry face. At least that's what my wife says.
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hahaha. OK, let's agree to disagree.
I just get riled sometimes.
Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2008-06-10 16:49:21 EDT (#)
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"News flash, man. You can still be a gentleman while expecting others to act with courtesy. To be civil and polite and let everything slide when others are being assholes makes you a pussy."
This statement just goes to show that maybe way down deep you're scared that you ARE a pussy so you have to show people that you aren't. I'm not saying that you are, mind you. I don't know you from anybody so I am not qualified to say. You seem nice enough though.
Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2008-06-10 16:45:21 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2008-06-10 15:14:38 EDT (#)
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You know, I like Bigmike. I really do. But sometimes he portrays himself as so self-righteous that you have to wonder if he isn't a complete bastard in the real world.
I like you too Jack. I just don't like your viewpoint on retribution when people don't acknowledge your politeness
Seriously. Why not just do stuff for others because it makes you feel good?
If you met me, you would think I was the worlds biggest dork. But I do practice what I preach. I don't beep when people cut me off with their cars. I don't flip people off when they do something I don't like. I do think about doing bad things to bad people, but I rarely follow through on those things.
I don't have to. I'm scary looking enough without putting on my angry face. At least that's what my wife says.
Submitted by corn_nugget (user info) at 2008-06-10 15:35:53 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2008-06-10 15:14:38 EDT (#)
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You know, I like Bigmike. I really do. But sometimes he portrays himself as so self-righteous that you have to wonder if he isn't a complete bastard in the real world.
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It's THAT hard for you to believe in genuinely nice people? :(
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2008-06-10 15:14:38 EDT (#)
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You know, I like Bigmike. I really do. But sometimes he portrays himself as so self-righteous that you have to wonder if he isn't a complete bastard in the real world.
News flash, man. You can still be a gentleman while expecting others to act with courtesy. To be civil and polite and let everything slide when others are being assholes makes you a pussy.
Submitted by haikumikoo (user info) at 2008-06-10 13:12:36 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Quint (user info) at 2008-06-08 17:34:04 PDT (#)
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I once tried to hold the door for some guys going into Method's Mom's place. The problem was that I got bored after a couple hours and stopped holding it.
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Could the magic be back?
Submitted by tloshjohnson (user info) at 2008-06-10 10:54:46 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Sacrilicious (user info) at 2008-06-09 20:18:22 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Quint (user info) at 2008-06-08 20:34:04 EDT (#)
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I once tried to hold the door for some guys going into Method's Mom's place. The problem was that I got bored after a couple hours and stopped holding it.
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HAHAHAHAHA My favorite Quint review.
Submitted by Mud (user info) at 2008-06-09 18:34:06 EDT (#)
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Boring, not worth the read. Why is this on most heated?
Submitted by SPECIALk (user info) at 2008-06-09 01:44:17 EDT (#)
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gentlemen prefer blondes
Submitted by Quint (user info) at 2008-06-08 20:34:04 EDT (#)
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I once tried to hold the door for some guys going into Method's Mom's place. The problem was that I got bored after a couple hours and stopped holding it.
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2008-06-08 20:32:53 EDT (#)
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yes, they do.
Submitted by Cheddar_Is_Better (user info) at 2008-06-08 17:55:39 EDT (#)
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I liked this because I've had the same bullshit happen to me. This is impossible to say without sounding sexist but I can't really apply it to men (possibly gay men) but I find that some women/gaymen are so arrogant and and self involved they assume if you hold a door open for them it's because you want something in return...
which is ridiculous, because I'm just holding a door.
Submitted by Doodles (user info) at 2008-06-08 10:33:15 EDT (#)
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Submitted by LustrousShe-Wolf (user info) at 2008-06-07 19:41:49 EDT (#)
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Once while I was about seven months pregnant and looked like a goddamned watermelon was growing out of my stomach I had to take a bus to the other side of town (I was not walking) and I was about to sit down on the only open chair and a woman put her bags from the floor onto the seat so I couldn't sit there.
I was a little shocked, but on the whole it doesn't surprise me. No one cares about pregnant woman anymore. I personally always give up my seat for an older person, no matter the burden on myself because elders need respect, but sometimes I see people making someone with a cane stand on the bus and I want to steal the geezer's cane and beat them.
Doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman, give up your goddamn seat to someone who could use a sit down every once in a while!
(end rant)
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Wait....
Do you mean to say that someone actually had sex with you?
...Was he in a coma or something?
Submitted by kristy (user info) at 2008-06-08 03:23:34 EDT (#)
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who gives a shit
Submitted by Chroniclysm (user info) at 2008-06-07 22:44:50 EDT (#)
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Not giving up my seat while she stands there is emasculating.
Submitted by LustrousShe-Wolf (user info) at 2008-06-07 19:41:49 EDT (#)
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Once while I was about seven months pregnant and looked like a goddamned watermelon was growing out of my stomach I had to take a bus to the other side of town (I was not walking) and I was about to sit down on the only open chair and a woman put her bags from the floor onto the seat so I couldn't sit there.
I was a little shocked, but on the whole it doesn't surprise me. No one cares about pregnant woman anymore. I personally always give up my seat for an older person, no matter the burden on myself because elders need respect, but sometimes I see people making someone with a cane stand on the bus and I want to steal the geezer's cane and beat them.
Doesn't matter if it's a man or a woman, give up your goddamn seat to someone who could use a sit down every once in a while!
(end rant)
Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2008-06-07 18:37:15 EDT (#)
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Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2008-06-07 12:21:10 EDT (#)
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i like the new EVIL big mike.
What do you mean "new"?
I just hate hypocrisy. The only type of person who should question where all the gentlemen have gone should be a true gentleman. Not someone who is so full of himself that he thinks people should acknowledge his actions or else suffer the consequences.
That's just absurd.
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2008-06-07 12:21:10 EDT (#)
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i like the new EVIL big mike.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2008-06-07 11:41:31 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2008-06-07 01:23:13 EDT (#)
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"I never said I EXPECTED anything, but I'm not fuckin Gandhi either. If I hold a door for you or let you cut in ahead in busy traffic you say thanks or give me a nod or the next time I see you I fuck with you, and I have a very good eye for faces."
Dear lord. When did you become the village idiot? You clearly expect people to acknowledge your "gentlemanly" behavior with a thank you. I'm surprised you don't expect people to wave and give thanks as you drive down the street, exhibiting your benevolence by not running anybody over.
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wtf, bigmike is funny...lol
Submitted by lungfish (user info) at 2008-06-07 08:37:00 EDT (#)
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Leviticus is easily the looniest book in the bible, and that's saying something. Well...in Volume 1, anyway. Revelations takes the prize for Volume 2. As for the Koran (Volume 3), I haven't read much of it, but am told there's some crazy shit in it as well.
Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2008-06-07 08:12:31 EDT (#)
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I'm always pregnant and people are always offering me seats and opening doors. When you are pregnant or with a small baby everybody talks to you, it's nice.
My friend was on a train once heavily pregnant and shouted out "I see there are no gentlemen here!" when noone would give up their seat. A bloke replied, "there are plenty of gentlemen, just no seats!"
I hold doors for anyone male/ female/ young old, and always let people out in the car. I'm often in a shaking hands type situation and always offer my hand first- makes me feel in control of the situation. You can do it when you want people to go too, especially if you stand up when offering your hand.
Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2008-06-07 01:23:13 EDT (#)
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"I never said I EXPECTED anything, but I'm not fuckin Gandhi either. If I hold a door for you or let you cut in ahead in busy traffic you say thanks or give me a nod or the next time I see you I fuck with you, and I have a very good eye for faces."
Dear lord. When did you become the village idiot? You clearly expect people to acknowledge your "gentlemanly" behavior with a thank you. I'm surprised you don't expect people to wave and give thanks as you drive down the street, exhibiting your benevolence by not running anybody over.
"Polite behavior should be enforced by the threat of pain and suffering. It's right there in the Bible."
Yes, right next to:
Leviticus 18:22 Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
But you seem to wholeheartedly ignore that verse don't you.
As I reread the Leviticus part of my reply, I almost deleted it because I thought it mean, then I thought "fuck it, this post is the epitome of stupid anyway" and I decided to leave it. You don't have to be "fuckin Ghandi" to genuinely care about people while expecting nothing in return.
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2008-06-06 23:50:07 EDT (#)
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Submitted by polyamorousaj (user info) at 2008-06-06 12:58:21 CDT (#)
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Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2008-06-06 10:57:38 CDT (#)
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"I hold doors for guys and girls and, hey, I'm not bi, I'm just polite... but if a man or a woman breezes through without a thank you I'll respond with my usual I'm not a doorman, dickhead."
This makes you a prick.
It's not the category of "gentleman" that's dead, it's the idea of altruism. A true gentleman does things because that's the way he is, not because he is looking for anything in return, such as a thank you.
Thus ends todays lesson.
the giraffe is right you know.
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2008-06-06 22:06:57 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2008-06-06 11:57:38 EDT (#)
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"I hold doors for guys and girls and, hey, I'm not bi, I'm just polite... but if a man or a woman breezes through without a thank you I'll respond with my usual I'm not a doorman, dickhead."
This makes you a prick.
It's not the category of "gentleman" that's dead, it's the idea of altruism. A true gentleman does things because that's the way he is, not because he is looking for anything in return, such as a thank you.
Thus ends todays lesson.
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I never said I EXPECTED anything, but I'm not fuckin Gandhi either. If I hold a door for you or let you cut in ahead in busy traffic you say thanks or give me a nod or the next time I see you I fuck with you, and I have a very good eye for faces.
Polite behavior should be enforced by the threat of pain and suffering. It's right there in the Bible.
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2008-06-06 22:03:46 EDT (#)
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Submitted by haikumikoo (user info) at 2008-06-06 13:15:25 EDT (#)
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Believe it or not, I wholeheartedly agree.
I just had a conversation like this on the bus with a crippled old black man, and two ancient white women. They almost had an orgasm (is that even possible for them anymore?) when I gave one of them my seat (ancient white woman). Apparently they've actually been laughed at by other 20-somethings when they've asked if they can have their seat.
==By Christ, that is sad.==
Although, I do differ from you in that I let the fat ladies sit down as well. More for my own safety than out of courtesy, mind you.
==hahahaha!!!=
Submitted by netimportant (user info) at 2008-06-06 20:14:59 EDT (#)
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Yes, and I love them.
Submitted by joedaddy (user info) at 2008-06-06 19:07:50 EDT (#)
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no talk, no fronting, you just do it
Submitted by JustAnotherStudent (user info) at 2008-06-06 18:38:17 EDT (#)
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My boyfriend does hold open the door, and yes, it's for the pussy. I have yet to see him hold open a door for anyone else.
I hold open doors for anyone behind me, don't give a shit who they are, and go ahead and open a door for someone if they look weak or are using a walker/wheelchair/pushing a goddamn stroller. Many times I have been on a bus or something, and given up my seat for an old person, pregnant lady, or a woman carrying a kid... while men stay in their seats pretending they don't see anything.
Being a gentleman has nothing to do with it. Being a healthy-bodied, decent human being has everything to do with it.
Submitted by polyamorousaj (user info) at 2008-06-06 13:58:21 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2008-06-06 10:57:38 CDT (#)
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"I hold doors for guys and girls and, hey, I'm not bi, I'm just polite... but if a man or a woman breezes through without a thank you I'll respond with my usual I'm not a doorman, dickhead."
This makes you a prick.
It's not the category of "gentleman" that's dead, it's the idea of altruism. A true gentleman does things because that's the way he is, not because he is looking for anything in return, such as a thank you.
Thus ends todays lesson.
Submitted by haikumikoo (user info) at 2008-06-06 13:15:25 EDT (#)
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Believe it or not, I wholeheartedly agree.
I just had a conversation like this on the bus with a crippled old black man, and two ancient white women. They almost had an orgasm (is that even possible for them anymore?) when I gave one of them my seat (ancient white woman). Apparently they've actually been laughed at by other 20-somethings when they've asked if they can have their seat.
Although, I do differ from you in that I let the fat ladies sit down as well. More for my own safety than out of courtesy, mind you.
Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2008-06-06 12:53:04 EDT (#)
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Unless you have some sort of psychic abilities, you can't know how others would want to be treated. You can only use projection and something resembling common sense. The standard cocksucker's debate is of course "Well, I'D like to be raped, so I guess that's what I should do to women," which works on a retarded third-grader's level until you get into the whole "would you like a stranger to take away your sense of dignity and humanity and replace it with a penis up your butthole?" If the answer is yes, of course, said cocksucker is better off jailed or, better yet, fed groin-first to shrews.
Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2008-06-06 12:30:29 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Jeanneee (user info) at 2008-06-06 12:22:14 EDT (#)
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Manners are a pretty big deal to me, I guess. Treating other people the way one wants to be treated does seem to be a lost art though.
By saying "one" do you mean yourself?
The lost art isn't in treating people the way YOU want to be treated, it is in treating people the way THEY want to be treated.
Submitted by Jeanneee (user info) at 2008-06-06 12:22:14 EDT (#)
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Manners are a pretty big deal to me, I guess. Treating other people the way one wants to be treated does seem to be a lost art though.
Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2008-06-06 11:59:31 EDT (#)
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It's not something our (American) society values at this point. How many Big Macs have consideration and decency sold? Nada. Not a single curly fry.
As a corporate greaseball, you want your target demographic to be a pack of greedy, self-centered, egocentric addict diva cunts. You want them to empathize with the guy in the commercial who ditches his wife at the altar to go to Taco Bell. You want them to be EAGER to pimp their mother for a quarter pound of grade-D beef, a slice of velveeta and a soggy lettuce leaf. You want them to write epic Song of Roland ballads about burritos.
Ever since the dawn of Reality TV and fucking MySpace, everyone thinks they're a celebrity; that the world cares about what they think, what they listen to, what they had for fucking breakfast. Chivalry doesn't exist in that world. Not without the anticipation of reward (as you said, pussy).
That said, I hold doors open for whoever's behind me. If the person's carrying something, or in a wheelchair or on a walker, I'll get ahead and hold the doors for them. Men and women above fifty are addressed as "Sir" or "Ma'am", while younger women are "Miss". I have helped women with automotive troubles before and no, nothing ever came of it. I don't order something if I don't have a dollar or two to tip, and I don't antagonize employees unless they're really stepping out of bounds. I have actually told someone they could demand satisfaction after a slight, but the gentleman apologized and it amounted to nothing.
That said, I'm a freak.
Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2008-06-06 11:57:38 EDT (#)
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"I hold doors for guys and girls and, hey, I'm not bi, I'm just polite... but if a man or a woman breezes through without a thank you I'll respond with my usual I'm not a doorman, dickhead."
This makes you a prick.
It's not the category of "gentleman" that's dead, it's the idea of altruism. A true gentleman does things because that's the way he is, not because he is looking for anything in return, such as a thank you.
Thus ends todays lesson.
Submitted by orph (user info) at 2008-06-06 11:35:50 EDT (#)
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Ah well, it's better than oozing 'white trash' wherever I go...
Submitted by i_can_get_you_a_toe (user info) at 2008-06-06 11:21:17 EDT (#)
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Submitted by i_can_get_you_a_toe (user info) at 2008-06-06 11:00:04 EDT (#)
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Yea, I agree, when your mother was pregnant with you, I hope the guys back then had the same attitude.
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My mother would never set foot on public transport.
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sure she did, you have 'public transport' written all over you.
Submitted by orph (user info) at 2008-06-06 11:09:39 EDT (#)
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Submitted by i_can_get_you_a_toe (user info) at 2008-06-06 11:00:04 EDT (#)
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Submitted by orph (user info) at 2008-06-06 05:08:18 EDT (#)
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And if you've gone and got yourself knocked up - deal with it. You'll be a standing up, knocked-up mother-fucker
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Yea, I agree, when your mother was pregnant with you, I hope the guys back then had the same attitude.
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My mother would never set foot on public transport.
Submitted by i_can_get_you_a_toe (user info) at 2008-06-06 11:00:04 EDT (#)
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Submitted by orph (user info) at 2008-06-06 05:08:18 EDT (#)
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And if you've gone and got yourself knocked up - deal with it. You'll be a standing up, knocked-up mother-fucker
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Yea, I agree, when your mother was pregnant with you, I hope the guys back then had the same attitude.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2008-06-06 10:32:06 EDT (#)
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Yes. I'm living proof.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2008-06-06 10:15:15 EDT (#)
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you're not a gentlemen, you're a weirdo http://www.ubersite.com/m/116966
gentlemen don't throw fits when their sandwhich isn't fixed in less than 10 seconds by immigrants
Submitted by BeforeEmily (user info) at 2008-06-06 07:33:07 EDT (#)
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Submitted by jared.melton (user info) at 2008-06-06 02:56:54 PDT (#)
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Why should I give up my seat? I had to fight a centaur to get it.
Submitted by sexualchocolate1984 (user info) at 2008-06-06 07:17:12 EDT (#)
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Living in the rural area of the UK means that our public transport costs almost as much as the fuel to get around in my car. So I pretty much drive everywhere. I'm your sterotypical BMW driver, I speed like a motherfucker and rarely signal my turns. I don't think I'm a gentleman.
Gentlemen are fags.
Submitted by LittleMonster (user info) at 2008-06-06 07:07:56 EDT (#)
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But then again. Where I come from, anyone 20 years your senior is adressed as sir/madam. Though recently the kids have stopped calling an younger woman "Miss" and have started with "Lady". I have no idea when that happend. I can't imagine any of those kids calling their teachers Lady.
Submitted by LittleMonster (user info) at 2008-06-06 07:05:13 EDT (#)
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There are plenty of Gentlemen out there. Unfortunately someone who starts calling out insults and being sarcastic when they don't get the reaction they were hoping for is not a gentleman in my opinion. They are just good people who want the world to be a bit nicer and a bit more conciderate to each other (and there's nothing wrong with that). Being a gentleman goes a little bit further than that. I could write an essay on what I belive defines a gentleman, but i would be here for a long time and you would proberbly get bored.
A little gentlemanly behaviour goes a long way with me.
For who ever it was who said "it's not worth the effort to say thankyou". I belive that must be a very sad place you live in. I'm glad you don't, but where I come from, no one is too lazy to say thank you.
Submitted by matnotharry (user info) at 2008-06-06 06:45:47 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Acarnis (user info) at 2008-06-05 19:05:42 BST (#)
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I hold doors for guys and girls and, hey, I'm not bi, I'm just polite... but if a man or a woman breezes through without a thank you I'll respond with my usual I'm not a doorman, dickhead.
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I have a problem with this. They didn't ask you to hold the door.
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Bollocks
Submitted by jared.melton (user info) at 2008-06-06 05:56:54 EDT (#)
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Why should I give up my seat? I had to fight a centaur to get it.
Submitted by orph (user info) at 2008-06-06 05:08:18 EDT (#)
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I give up my seat for old women, and really old men.
If you're pregnant, or just a big fat heaving bitch of a thing - no seat for you.
You don't don't get a seat for being an overweight fat cunt - man or woman.
And if you've gone and got yourself knocked up - deal with it. You'll be a standing up, knocked-up mother-fucker.
Submitted by Nellypaal (user info) at 2008-06-06 04:46:54 EDT (#)
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Submitted by F.J.Bell (user info) at 2008-06-06 04:32:41 EDT (#)
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I will be gentlemanly for a proper lady. Give up my seat, walk in between her and the road, fill her glass up first...
But a lot of women are cunts.
Submitted by F.J.Bell (user info) at 2008-06-06 04:32:41 EDT (#)
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I will be gentlemanly for a proper lady. Give up my seat, walk in between her and the road, fill her glass up first...
But a lot of women are cunts.
Submitted by sparkle_pink (user info) at 2008-06-05 23:44:54 EDT (#)
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I dunno about the guys around these parts, but I myself always give up my seat for the seniors and pregnant ladies. I do drive most of the time as opposed to taking public transit, but I have yet to see anyone else, male or female, do the same.
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2008-06-05 22:53:47 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Phallic_Cymbals (user info) at 2008-06-05 22:01:49 EDT (#)
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I'm always prepared to give up my seat but this sweating, twitchy guy always jumps up first and gives HIS seat away, so I don't have to. He then spends the rest of the train ride glaring at the rest of us.
Wait a minute...
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Well I don't sweat or twitch. I'm a very mellow guy most of the time, because I vent my outrage the moment it appears. Very healthy, that.
Submitted by Phallic_Cymbals (user info) at 2008-06-05 22:01:49 EDT (#)
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I'm always prepared to give up my seat but this sweating, twitchy guy always jumps up first and gives HIS seat away, so I don't have to. He then spends the rest of the train ride glaring at the rest of us.
Wait a minute...
Submitted by Doodles (user info) at 2008-06-05 21:24:44 EDT (#)
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Yes they do. No, you're NOT one.
Unless we're talking about the southern gentleman from civil war era until the civil rights movement, because I believe you fit the both the racist and sexist criteria.
Submitted by PayMeLater (user info) at 2008-06-05 21:17:52 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2008-06-05 18:06:27 EDT (#)
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btw, I just got back from a smoke break. On the way down in the elevator there was just me and a woman I don't know. When the elevator reached the lobby I automatically reached out and held the door open so she could go first. Ladies first, call me old-fashioned. I DID THIS AFTER WRITING THIS POST AND READING THE REVIEWS. She gave me a sour look
CHECK YOUR HYGEINE MISTER
Submitted by MoPed (user info) at 2008-06-05 20:52:14 EDT (#)
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yeah i've always considered myself a considerate and polite person. a door holding, turn signaling gentleman. it's pretty rude when people don't notice. i think saying something sarcastic to point out their unconsious (or sometime downright deliberate) rudeness is a favor. you're saying: here's something you can do different to make this world less crappy. why don't you start doing it?
the world is what we make it. hope everyone out there is teaching their kids manners like these, but out here in l.a. it's a bunch of self-involved cocksmokers who don't give a shit. this includes the women of so-cal, who are among the most conceited and materialistic bitches i've encountered. even the homely, uninteresting fatties that give you an attitude when u go to a mall.
Submitted by i_can_get_you_a_toe (user info) at 2008-06-05 19:05:07 EDT (#)
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In the building I work in, out of about the 50 or so guys I generally see in the elevators and such only 2 of them let me off first.
pfft of course there is isn't any gentlemen. Guys are generally insensitive assholes unless they want a blowjob or a sandwich.
Submitted by bob (user info) at 2008-06-05 18:48:03 EDT (#)
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I never sit on the subway so that someone else can take it...so yes? I guess.
Submitted by Linus (user info) at 2008-06-05 18:37:27 EDT (#)
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Guess what!
I'm -2ing you!
Yay!
Super happy fun time!
Submitted by BeforeEmily (user info) at 2008-06-05 18:31:42 EDT (#)
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Submitted by experima (user info) at 2008-06-05 15:10:04 PDT (#)
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Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2008-06-05 15:02:49 PDT (#)
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Submitted by BeforeEmily (user info) at 2008-06-05 17:54:02 EDT (#)
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Like the majority of San Francisco residents, the cuntinista has to make a statement in every aspect of her life, and I don't have time for that psychotic bullshit.
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Don't live/work there then.
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Ahhh, I get it. San Francisco welcomes EVERYONE but straight white agnostic males with no mental or physical defects.
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san francisco does. i lived there, i remember. but it makes you a minority. if emily says, "love it or leave it, then, minority" surely you can understand that sentiment?
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and if some homo or cuntinista had posted this, I'd be annoyed at them too. But if you are the minority there, and they are the minority everywhere else, what do you expect? I just thought you'd be used to it by now. Or at least you would have known better than to move there in the first place, and to quote a dear friend, you are a "retarded right-wing nutjob."
Submitted by Lib (user info) at 2008-06-05 18:31:26 EDT (#)
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In this world there is good, bad and indifference.
I like good.
This is.
Submitted by Susie_Derkins (user info) at 2008-06-05 18:15:43 EDT (#)
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Agreed. I love this situation the best: Three people are walking single file down a corridor. John is first, followed by Mary, with Sally bringing up the rear (insert joke here). John gets to the door, opens it and walks through, giving it an extra shove so that it will remain open for Mary. Mary, instead of doing the same, just walks through without touching the door, so it slams in Sally's face.
I'm going to have to try your doorman line, it sounds more clever than "You're WELCOME!...(muttered) fucknose."
Submitted by experima (user info) at 2008-06-05 18:10:04 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2008-06-05 15:02:49 PDT (#)
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Submitted by BeforeEmily (user info) at 2008-06-05 17:54:02 EDT (#)
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Like the majority of San Francisco residents, the cuntinista has to make a statement in every aspect of her life, and I don't have time for that psychotic bullshit.
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Don't live/work there then.
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Ahhh, I get it. San Francisco welcomes EVERYONE but straight white agnostic males with no mental or physical defects.
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san francisco does. i lived there, i remember. but it makes you a minority. if emily says, "love it or leave it, then, minority" surely you can understand that sentiment?
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2008-06-05 18:09:57 EDT (#)
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Submitted by no1hasdis (user info) at 2008-06-05 17:36:39 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2008-06-05 17:24:32 EDT (#)
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The point being made is that there are an astounding number of lazy/ignorant fucks walking this Earth and those who are polite and courteous appear to be a dying breed. I agree, it SHOULD be just a matter of course, but it isn't.
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You do realize you are one of the former, not the latter.
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You do realize that despite the number of years you have been here you had absolutely NO identity on uber until you joined the Jackslammers, mimicking Caulaincourt and others like a trained parrot. Sad.
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2008-06-05 18:06:27 EDT (#)
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btw, I just got back from a smoke break. On the way down in the elevator there was just me and a woman I don't know. When the elevator reached the lobby I automatically reached out and held the door open so she could go first. Ladies first, call me old-fashioned. I DID THIS AFTER WRITING THIS POST AND READING THE REVIEWS. She gave me a sour look like I just took my wang out and wiggled it in her face. WHAT THE FUCK? If I'm ever in an elevator with her again I'll just take my wang out and wiggle it in her face.
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2008-06-05 18:02:49 EDT (#)
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Submitted by BeforeEmily (user info) at 2008-06-05 17:54:02 EDT (#)
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Like the majority of San Francisco residents, the cuntinista has to make a statement in every aspect of her life, and I don't have time for that psychotic bullshit.
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Don't live/work there then.
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Ahhh, I get it. San Francisco welcomes EVERYONE but straight white agnostic males with no mental or physical defects.
Submitted by BeforeEmily (user info) at 2008-06-05 17:54:02 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Like the majority of San Francisco residents, the cuntinista has to make a statement in every aspect of her life, and I don't have time for that psychotic bullshit.
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Don't live/work there then.
Submitted by Scott_James (user info) at 2008-06-05 17:39:54 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2008-06-05 22:24:32 BST (#)
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The point being made is that there are an astounding number of lazy/ignorant fucks walking this Earth and those who are polite and courteous appear to be a dying breed. I agree, it SHOULD be just a matter of course, but it isn't.
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I don't consider myself polite or courteous - I just do it because it is logical and it makes sense. Maybe I have been hanging around autistic people for too long.
Submitted by no1hasdis (user info) at 2008-06-05 17:36:39 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2008-06-05 17:24:32 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Scott_James (user info) at 2008-06-05 17:14:35 EDT (#)
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How the fuck is this about decency?
Does being a polite and courteous gentleman suddenly mean you are good person?
How the fuck do you +2s tie your shoelaces together in the morning?
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The point being made is that there are an astounding number of lazy/ignorant fucks walking this Earth and those who are polite and courteous appear to be a dying breed. I agree, it SHOULD be just a matter of course, but it isn't.
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You do realize you are one of the former, not the latter.
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2008-06-05 17:24:32 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Scott_James (user info) at 2008-06-05 17:14:35 EDT (#)
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How the fuck is this about decency?
Does being a polite and courteous gentleman suddenly mean you are good person?
How the fuck do you +2s tie your shoelaces together in the morning?
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The point being made is that there are an astounding number of lazy/ignorant fucks walking this Earth and those who are polite and courteous appear to be a dying breed. I agree, it SHOULD be just a matter of course, but it isn't.
Submitted by Director (user info) at 2008-06-05 17:15:00 EDT (#)
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+2 BECAUSE OFFICE SPACE IS ON.
Submitted by Scott_James (user info) at 2008-06-05 17:14:35 EDT (#)
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How the fuck is this about decency?
Does being a polite and courteous gentleman suddenly mean you are good person?
How the fuck do you +2s tie your shoelaces together in the morning?
Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2008-06-05 16:34:56 EDT (#)
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holding a door or giving up a seat to an elderly/crippled/otherwise burdened person is just about common human decency, it has nothing to do with being a gentleman. indo (i think) did a post about respect once that touched on this same general theme. you don't earn respect for just doing what yo are supposed to be doing anyway. same general principle applies to the word 'hero'.
anyway, quit patting your own back so fucking hard. don't you have some brown people to hate somewhere?
Submitted by Acarnis (user info) at 2008-06-05 16:18:30 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2008-06-05 14:27:52 EDT (#)
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Who asked you to keep on breathing?
Which is why I don't expect any thank-you's from anyone.
I'm with Scott_James on this one. This is such a circle-jerk post. Jack is not a gentleman. In fact, with that response, he's a bit of a jackass. True gentlemen don't expect things in return.
I would go out of my way and open my own door, too, if the jackass is expecting something. Sure, saying thank-you isn't a big deal... but it's about as big of a deal as someone not saying thank-you to you for opening the door.
I open doors all the time for people; it's instinct. People open doors for me. In my town, opening doors is just expected. There are a handful of people who do say thank you, but what a waste of energy. Not only do I care little about their emotionless thank you, but I'm not expecting anything in return. As Scott_James was implying, opening doors for people is the least someone could do for someone. (Of course, this is hyperbole. There are much less things you can do for someone, but I'll use one as an example. Would you expect someone to thank you for showering as you entered a bus? In our culture, it's just expected that if you're not a homeless person, you wouldn't come into the bus smelling like pee and vomit.)
Jack, you ever realize that you're in the wrong culture?
Submitted by Yozz (user info) at 2008-06-05 16:04:44 EDT (#)
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Submitted by The_taste_of_Monkeys (user info) at 2008-06-05 15:36:37 EDT (#)
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I am a perfect gentleman, but then I dont actually exist.
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I knew it.
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2008-06-05 15:58:15 EDT (#)
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It's ok to hold a door for a lady.
It's kind of gay to hold a door for a guy. Unless he's pushing a beer cart or something. It's ok to give the door a push open far enough that he'll be able to grab it by the time he gets there, but standing there waiting is gay.
Submitted by NotSteve (user info) at 2008-06-05 15:45:00 EDT (#)
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Sort of on the same topic of chivalry: I finished a class one night and was on my way out of the school when i held the door open for a fresh-out-of-highschool girl. She was about 20 feet or so behind me and I opened the door and held it open for her while she walked the last 20 feet to the door. I didn't look at her or anything, just held the door politely, and when she got to me she said, "Perv!" and walked on.
My fiance told me later that there's some rule as to how long you're suppsed to wait to hold the door and only if they're a certian distance from you or some such shit...
Anyway, I knew that her father secretly wished she had been a blowjob.
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2008-06-05 15:42:18 EDT (#)
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Submitted by earth_collapse (user info) at 2008-06-05 15:21:14 EDT (#)
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Jack, are you giving up your seat because you're a gentleman, or because you want to believe you are?
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Actually, I have this incontinence problem, so...
(63% of uberusers will jump to an online dictionary to look up incontinence so Gentleman Jack saves them a step by posting this link http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/incontinence.)
Submitted by The_taste_of_Monkeys (user info) at 2008-06-05 15:36:37 EDT (#)
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I am a perfect gentleman, but then I dont actually exist.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2008-06-05 15:31:12 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Pentameter (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:24:45 EDT (#)
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How about me, a female who will stand up for any elderly man or woman, a pregnant woman or any disabled man or woman.
It has nothing to do with being a gentleman. It has to do with being a decent human being
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Lesbian
Submitted by earth_collapse (user info) at 2008-06-05 15:21:14 EDT (#)
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Jack, are you giving up your seat because you're a gentleman, or because you want to believe you are?
Submitted by Paralyzed_By_Hope (user info) at 2008-06-05 15:07:06 EDT (#)
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It's a rarity, but I've come across quite a few. I'd even hypothesize the majority of the endangered race of gentlemen are usually found south of the mason-dixon line.
And: cuntinistas made me laugh. So did: I think you need to douche more often.
Submitted by monkeyswithguns (user info) at 2008-06-05 15:04:32 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by shadow (user info) at 2008-06-05 14:57:45 EDT (#)
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I couldn't believe my eyes.
A nineteenish year old kid on the metro gave up his seat for a fortiesish lady and her oversized handbag. Kid was probably wearing 30lbs in denim around his knees, too.
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2008-06-05 14:29:58 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Scott_James (user info) at 2008-06-05 14:22:38 EDT (#)
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The Gentleman is the forefather of The Officer, The Prep and The Yuppie. All three are antiquated stereotypes of supposed soberiety, sophistication and decency when the truth is that they are usual anything but.
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I think you need to douche more often.
Submitted by Sacrilicious (user info) at 2008-06-05 14:27:59 EDT (#)
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but if a man or a woman breezes through without a thank you I'll respond with my usual I'm not a doorman, dickhead.
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I thank the doorman, too..
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2008-06-05 14:27:52 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Acarnis (user info) at 2008-06-05 14:05:42 EDT (#)
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I hold doors for guys and girls and, hey, I'm not bi, I'm just polite... but if a man or a woman breezes through without a thank you I'll respond with my usual I'm not a doorman, dickhead.
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I have a problem with this. They didn't ask you to hold the door.
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Who asked you to keep on breathing?
Submitted by Yozz (user info) at 2008-06-05 14:24:50 EDT (#)
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Auto +2 Bernhard Goetz.
(He is an alum of my high school!)
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2008-06-05 14:24:47 EDT (#)
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Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:44:47 EDT (#)
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Actually I would like to replace the term 'gentleman' with the word courteous.
Because the behaviors that you're talking about, holding doors open, giving up your seat to elderly people, are courteous behaviors independent of the gender performing them.
Women should also be holding doors open. If a woman arrives at a door first, then she should open and hold the door for the others. If a woman sees an elderly person on the bus, then she should give her seat to them.
Common courtesy.
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I know, and I mentioned that above. I don't mind a girl holding a door for me. What amazes me is how many typical entitled San Francisco fucks will breeze through a door held by another without ANY acknowledgement. That fills me with a killing fury.
Submitted by Scott_James (user info) at 2008-06-05 14:22:38 EDT (#)
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If Ghandi doesn't give up his seat for Eva Braun, then does that mean he is not a 'gentleman'?
Calm the living fuck down, people. Seriously, there's enough crap being dumped here to fill a football stadium.
The Gentleman is the forefather of The Officer, The Prep and The Yuppie. All three are antiquated stereotypes of supposed soberiety, sophistication and decency when the truth is that they are usual anything but.
Giving your seat up for an old lady doesn't make you a saint. Shit, it doesn't even make you a decent human being.
Submitted by skrapmetal (user info) at 2008-06-05 14:13:48 EDT (#)
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"I always give it up if there is an older lady or a pregnant woman who needs one".
A true gentleman indeed.
Submitted by Acarnis (user info) at 2008-06-05 14:05:42 EDT (#)
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I hold doors for guys and girls and, hey, I'm not bi, I'm just polite... but if a man or a woman breezes through without a thank you I'll respond with my usual I'm not a doorman, dickhead.
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I have a problem with this. They didn't ask you to hold the door.
Submitted by GangsterSquid (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:52:44 EDT (#)
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I, for one, am a true gentleman.
By that I mean after sex I kick the girl out WITH her clothing instead of naked on the street.
Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:49:53 EDT (#)
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I was walking down the sidewalk the other day, heading toward a friend's place, and about 50 feet away there was this 8 or 9 year old kid setting up his scooter. He started off down the sidewalk towards me, and I stepped in the grass to make sure he had enough room. As he wheeled past he turned and said "thank you."
That's a great kid right there. I didn't even know parents still taught their spawn those words, or how to use them.
Submitted by Sacrilicious (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:48:14 EDT (#)
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I still notice some gentlemanly behavior during the course of an average week. But just because a man is courteous doesn't mean I'll necessarily define it in my mind as 'gentlemanly' as opposed to just common courtesy.
I think I distinguish it as such when there seems to be some manner of affectation, like the difference between the combo of holding a door open, tipping his hat, and referring to me as 'lady' or something (popular with older men) as opposed to just holding the door open for me. If it's obviously gender-based courtesy, I'm more likely to label it as old-fashioned or 'gentlemanly' in my head.
As far as the handshake thing goes, I never thought much about it until now, but I often offer my hand first, regardless of gender.
All that said, Jack, I would never consider it UNgentlemanly if a man did not offer me a seat on a train, unless I was clearly in need of one for some reason. I'm not a cuntista, but if you got there first, I can stand as well if you would if the situation was reversed. It is a nice thing to do, though.
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:46:27 EDT (#)
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we've got off topic a little though.
the question was specific 'gentlemen' not 'courteous people'.
anyway that's my lunch eaten.
later.
Submitted by orphelia (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:45:12 EDT (#)
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Being pregnant, and using public transport when the other half has the car, I have noticed that most people suddenly see something very interesting out the window or on the floor when I get onto a packed bus and have to stand.
At the moment though, I am not bothered. I was more worried in the early stages when I wasn't showing that a sudden brake and the bus would jerk, sending me to the floor. But who knew then?
The time it bothers me is when I am maybe one month from birth. A couple of years ago, when I was ready to pop, I climbed aboard the bus, it was rammed full. I was so obviously struggling but not one person said anything. A middle aged lady also tood said the guys should be ashamed of themselves, but I was more disappointed that other women, who must have felt how I had themselves, didn't offer.
I have always offered my seat for the pregnant, eldery etc. I also always help out with mums who take buggys onto the bus/train, even if I have one of my offspring with me myself.
Many times, I see people look away, if a eldery man struggles with heavy bags, or a disabled woman crosses the street. I don't understand it.
My other half is a thoughtless pig, it drives me crazy. Yhough he is polite with both male and females in public. I don't mind this however, as I feel he can be totally 'himself' only with me!
Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:44:47 EDT (#)
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Actually I would like to replace the term 'gentleman' with the word courteous.
Because the behaviors that you're talking about, holding doors open, giving up your seat to elderly people, are courteous behaviors independent of the gender performing them.
Women should also be holding doors open. If a woman arrives at a door first, then she should open and hold the door for the others. If a woman sees an elderly person on the bus, then she should give her seat to them.
Common courtesy.
Submitted by Rhymenocerous (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:44:16 EDT (#)
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They do exist. It's a rarity, though.
The other night my roommate and I were walking out of a packie (liqueur store) with our hands full. A kid, the type who wears a wife beater in public with really long shorts, high socks and work boots, with 14 gold chains, is walking in with his girlfriend (or some girl) right behind him. He makes no attempt to hold the door for us. Instead, he squeezes through the door and says to us, "Are you going to hold the fucking door or not, guy?" This douche expected us, with out hands full and leaving a place, to hold the door (which opened out) for him who was entering with empty hands. It blew my mind.
Some people are just so fucking selfish that it boggles my mind. Narcissistic, cocky, arrogant, self-centered, self-obsessed, dipshits. All of them.
I saw a woman trying to get down the stairs in the train station one time with a baby carriage. No one even blinked at her. As me and my other roommate were walking down past her, he offered her a hand and picked up the front of the carriage and helped her carry it down the stairs. No one even noticed. No one gives up their seat on the train, no one gives up their seat on the bus, no one gives a damn about anyone but themselves.
Every now and then, though, you do bump in to people who are polite and have more than half a brain. I must say, it is quite refreshing. However, its still like 1 out of every 20 people I encounter on a daily basis.
Misanthropists gotta stick together.
Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:41:28 EDT (#)
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I still don't know who disappoint me more: the people who aren't thoughtful and try to do something considerate for others, or the people who expect - truly expect - to be treated that way and aren't thankful for receiving a kindness.
It's not kindness if it's demanded or expected, it's a service.
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:39:39 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2008-06-05 12:34:45 CDT (#)
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Guinea Pig -- I guess I'm just frustrated by people that are Situationally Decent. """
Isn't everyone though to a certain extent? I mean polite society is just situational decency.
I'd love to sit in the office in my underpants eating cheeseburgers but you know, I'm not allowed any more.
Decency apparently.
Submitted by no1hasdis (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:39:12 EDT (#)
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I am a straight white agnostic man with no mental or physical defects
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Wow, that's alot of lies to pack into one sentence. You're a closet homo, sociopathic ginger. I won't argue with the white part though, you pasty fuck.
Submitted by corn_nugget (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:38:21 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:34:05 EDT (#)
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Submitted by corn_nugget (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:30:48 EDT (#)
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I wait for a man to offer me his hand for a handshake, and if he doesn't, we wont shake hands.
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I always wait for a woman to offer a handshake. I know in the past it's put some people off, oddly - I mean, what, you're going to assume an offense because I didn't express an interest to break etiquette and flash you some skin? - but I just can't get out of that habit.
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I'd never be OFFENDED if I wasn't offered a handshake or if a guy went before me through a door... I just notice it's something I do. I don't know if all women do that handshake thing. Probably not. Plus I'm really shy, so maybe that has something to do with it.
Submitted by Scott_James (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:37:48 EDT (#)
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Meh. I'll give up my seat if I think a person needs it. But I don't truck with those who think they are entitled to my seat just because I don't fit the correct gender specifications.
But chivalry can end in disaster. For every one-hundred sweet old ladies who struggle with their groceries there is one hag who disguises a bomb as a bump and detonates it on a bus full of Israeli school children. Go figure.
Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:35:54 EDT (#)
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It's fine, Canseco. We're all whores in one way or another.
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:35:26 EDT (#)
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i don't differentiate with handshakes I must say.
Perhaps that's a cultural difference.
Submitted by GangsterSquid (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:35:01 EDT (#)
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WHOAH.
Sorry O!
Submitted by GangsterSquid (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:34:46 EDT (#)
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Whore below.
Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:34:45 EDT (#)
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Guinea Pig -- I guess I'm just frustrated by people that are Situationally Decent.
Submitted by Pentameter (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:34:36 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:27:12 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Pentameter (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:24:45 EDT (#)
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How about me, a female who will stand up for any elderly man or woman, a pregnant woman or any disabled man or woman.
It has nothing to do with being a gentleman. It has to do with being a decent human being, and no, there aren't too many of them left as far as I can tell.
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Oh, I see PLENTY of that, but as an old-fashioned guy I believe I should not see it at all.
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To be honest with you, I LIKE doing things like that. I actually would call everyone on the train, male and female who didn't stand up for someone who seemed like they needed a seat an asshole. Like I said, it's a human issue, not just a men's issue. It's nice to be old-fashioned and stuff but it's better to just be considerate because you want to be, not because you feel like you should be.
Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:34:05 EDT (#)
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Submitted by corn_nugget (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:30:48 EDT (#)
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I wait for a man to offer me his hand for a handshake, and if he doesn't, we wont shake hands.
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I always wait for a woman to offer a handshake. I know in the past it's put some people off, oddly - I mean, what, you're going to assume an offense because I didn't express an interest to break etiquette and flash you some skin? - but I just can't get out of that habit.
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:33:20 EDT (#)
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Orgasmo- well, I'm not too fussed what the motivations for decent behaviour are, just that people are decent.
If what makes you decent is a fear of eternal damnation or if it's just you had good parents the end result of being courteous is the same.
Submitted by FALLEN (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:32:41 EDT (#)
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There are gentelmen still.
there beter be or this happens
http://www.ubersite.com/m/109419
Yes. I'm a whore
I know.
Submitted by corn_nugget (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:30:48 EDT (#)
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I always used to think "I don't want to be treated different because I'm a woman", but then I noticed that I DO things because I'm a woman.
If I'm in an elevator with a man, I always get off first. I go through doors first. I wait for a man to offer me his hand for a handshake, and if he doesn't, we wont shake hands. I expect to order first at a resturant.
Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:30:39 EDT (#)
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Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:22:11 EDT (#)
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But having said that when I was in Baltimore and the missus was weak from the chemo etc most people were very nice with holding doors and all that jazz.
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That sort of behavior always gets to me. I mean, certainly, it's wonderful to lend a hand to someone who's not feeling well/sick/handicapped/etc. but if people will offer kindnesses to them, and not others, it tells me one of two things:
- sympathy, guilt or public scrutiny will modify behavior
- they feel better about themselves for "helping out"
People who open doors for those in need should be just as capable of doing it the other 99% of the time.
In completely unrelated news, I just heard a radio spot for Nationwide that mentioned an agent whose last name was "Ondick." I wonder if this guy has a daughter.
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:30:07 EDT (#)
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i know, and this is going to sound really really racist, because, well it is.
But it's nearly always darkies that drive me to heart pounding road rage and since in Houston whites are the minority it can be very stressful driving to work and back.
Submitted by The_Drake (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:28:16 EDT (#)
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I liked this a lot. And you're right. They're getting harder to find.
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:27:12 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Pentameter (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:24:45 EDT (#)
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How about me, a female who will stand up for any elderly man or woman, a pregnant woman or any disabled man or woman.
It has nothing to do with being a gentleman. It has to do with being a decent human being, and no, there aren't too many of them left as far as I can tell.
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Oh, I see PLENTY of that, but as an old-fashioned guy I believe I should not see it at all.
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:25:33 EDT (#)
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Apollo... you mentioned traffic and my heart rate just spiked...
Jesus, reports of road rage are no surprise once you have encountered the ignorant self-centered sons-of-bitches around here.
Submitted by ubetidid (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:25:25 EDT (#)
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hey, i have that exact same gun.
i love my gun.
now what were you saying?
Submitted by Pentameter (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:24:45 EDT (#)
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How about me, a female who will stand up for any elderly man or woman, a pregnant woman or any disabled man or woman.
It has nothing to do with being a gentleman. It has to do with being a decent human being, and no, there aren't too many of them left as far as I can tell.
Submitted by Orgasmatron (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:23:20 EDT (#)
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It doesn't take a lot of effort to be polite. More work than being a completely inconsiderate, self-involved douchebag, yes, but not a lot of effort.
It's one big world but everyone's concerned with Me. Very disappointing really. Case in point: the other week I was heading into work and two people had just entered the elevator, and despite my walking right up to the door they let it close and didn't hold it open for me. When you've got blinders on, you miss out on a lot.
I hold doors and do considerate stuff like that whenever I can. If I'm buying a handful of magazines or books I'll usually arrange them so all the bar codes face the same way. Ok that might be more of an OC thing, but it still shows an appreciation for someone else.
People would do well to step back and look at the big picture once and a while.
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:22:11 EDT (#)
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well written.
it's a quandry and I often ask myself the same.
I always hold doors, give up seat, let people into my lane in traffic etc but 99% of the rest of the world are fucking cunts.
So i get angry and think 'fuck it i'll be as ignorant as the other cunts' but I can never carry through with it, I guess I just don't want to live my life that way.
But having said that when I was in Baltimore and the missus was weak from the chemo etc most people were very nice with holding doors and all that jazz.
Submitted by GangsterSquid (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:21:32 EDT (#)
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feminist cuntinistas
Submitted by HadToBeDone (user info) at 2008-06-05 13:19:31 EDT (#)
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Sure it does. Most people just realize that it doesn't matter if anyone else notices.