My Psychiatrist told me that it is good to rant sometimes, apart from when he gives me my bill (594 hits)
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Submitted by LittleBint (View user info) at 2008-07-22 08:33:36 EDT
So the great British Government has come up with a plan to try and cut down the number of people claiming 'Benefits' and to encourage them back to work. This involves making people who have been unemployed for more than one year, and claiming Job Seekers Allowance; carry out some form of Community work probably along the lines of Litter Picking, Removing Graffiti and so forth.
Another of the ideas is to get the number of people claiming 'Incapacity Benefit' down too. The idea here comes from a report by some government official who states that 2 thirds of people claiming this are actually 'On the Lamb'. We will ignore for the moment that if this is the case, and they are aware of it being the case, why haven't they stopped the benefit being paid to these people? The way in which they are going to solve this one is by changing its name to 'The Employment Support Allowance', because we all know that making it longer to write will stop people claiming it, and also by making possible claimants be referred and reviewed by someone other than their own GP.
So are these ideas Good, Bad or just Uglier than a love child from Hilary Clinton and Gordon Brown?
Of course the Liberal Whinge-Bags have jumped on this claiming such things as 'the government is trying to punish people for being Poor'. They say that this will make it harder for 'Legitimate' claimants to get their benefits. Really?
Surely if someone is a 'Job Seeker' and claiming unemployment benefit and serious about wanting to get back into work, because no one likes claiming benefits apparently, then they should welcome a chance to get out there and get active again. Yes it isn't going to be the most amazing work but at least they will be able to provide a service to the communities where 'Working' tax payers contribute to their benefits. Is this really a bad thing? It may also encourage some people to go out and find alternative work so as to avoid doing community stuff, hmm that would be a shame.
If we were in any way cynical some would say 'But this will just mean that more people will try to get on the higher benefit, which is the New Employment Support Allowance.' This could be the case. But with stricter monitoring of what exactly constitutes an 'Inability' to work, and who carries out the examination, surely this will be harder to fool.
So where is the answer here? What are we to do?
I personally don't see a problem with making the long term Job Seeker give something back. I also don't see a problem with making the long term 'Incapacitated' claimant go through another, more thorough, examination by an impartial Doctor. If they are truly as sore as they already claim then they will be fine.
It seems strange that these days we have legislation dictating how the disabled should be treated in the work place, and to ensure they get given jobs, yet we still have so many people claiming an 'Incapacity Benefit'. Some of the disabled people I have worked with have been great, hard working and have had more to complain and whine about than anyone I have ever met on 'Incapacity Benefit' and yet there they are IN the work place not letting their disability get them down or beat them. Then you have the guy who did his back in a few years ago who says that he can't even sit at a desk in a chair specially ordered to ensure he is correctly supported.
Surely something has to change? The idea that you get money for doing absolutely nothing can't possibly be a good thing. I'm not saying that they get a lot of money here, in a lot of cases it is a serious pittance, but with current education schemes on offer or the opportunity to train why are people still claiming it?
Maybe I have actually just become my Dad overnight; but the fact that people would complain about the Government trying to clamp down on Fraudsters is very odd to me.
Anyway in more pressing matters I hear that Madonna has been videotaped, how old does that make me sound? doing the bad thing with a basketball player. Wow! Scandal.
Disclaimer: The poster would like it noted that they don't actually like the smelly looking, dishevelled and all round embarrassment that is Gordon Brown and most of his cabinet. Actually the poster would like it to be known that when the repellent, afore mentioned, creature comes on television with his odd breathing gasp thing the poster has to utilise most of her powers to stop herself from being sick.
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Submitted by sexualchocolate1984 (user info) at 2008-07-25 05:49:23 EDT (#)
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I agree entirely, as someone who earns a fairly low wage £18,000, has no kids, and lives in rented accomodation i get NOTHING from this government, I claim NOTHING from the country. Gordon cocksmith Brown has just stung me for another £300 odd a year in income tax (see 10p tax band), my fuel (which i use 99% to get to work and back) now costs an extra £50 a month and my shopping bill is up 20%.
It really pisses me off to see all the people here claiming every penny they can, limiting their working hours so they can still claim benefits. Making out like that work accident was a fucking jackpot. They fail to understand that that is MY money they're blagging.
It's fucking sickening.
I HATE gordon Brown, and Labour, I can't wait for them to loose the next election, however I do agree with anything which will take away from these slack, workshy, benefit claiming cocksuckers and allow the money i have to fork over to be spent on something I may possibly end up using.
Although, I don't really give a fuck - my ass is emmigrating.
I think disability allowance should be scrapped and replaced with a free training program and supply of resources (special chairs, wheelchair ramps, special desks) and have the cunts trained to work for minimum wage at the local council / government.
Am I right in thinking that in the US you get some kind of unemployment benefit, but only for x amount of years? Once you've had your years it's done, and you've had your lot? - I think that's a great Idea, because everyone can enjoy it, taking the odd year out, but no-one can take advantage and live off it.
Also - FOODSTAMPS! - Too many of the benefit claiming scumbags I know have big TV's, half decent cars, and can afford to drink more than I fucking can, and i work every fucking day! I was screwing an older woman a while back and she was claiming all sorts of benefits - we spent our entire relationship waiting for her Giro and going out on the lash. While she fed her kids chicken nugets. I struggled to keep up with her spending.
It's just not right.
Submitted by Desz (user info) at 2008-07-22 20:52:33 EDT (#)
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Submitted by i_can_get_you_a_toe (user info) at 2008-07-22 16:33:16 EDT (#)
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I would be on a benefit if they were'nt so stingy. who can live on $150.00 week?
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2008-07-22 15:58:39 EDT (#)
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i've no real argument against this but it all seems a little too fascist for me.
state driven humiliation for those poor cunts who don't live up to the state idea of work your bollocks off and pay 60% to the ever growing governmental monster.
I think either we give benefits in a humane, respectful manner or we don't give 'em at all.
Helping people but only with a sense of snivelling moral superiority is no way to be as a nation.
Submitted by Littlebint (user info) at 2008-07-22 10:54:50 EDT (#)
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Phallic- If there is no abuse of the system going on then where exactly is the problem with these people being put out to work in the local communities?
People are out of work for a reason thats okay, but rather than just throwing money at the problem and disregarding it why not help them help themselves by getting them back into the working frame of mind? There is no problem with that. and surely you cant disagree that if people have real problems with regards their ability to work then they should have no problem proving that.
Submitted by myshit (user info) at 2008-07-22 10:52:30 EDT (#)
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I'm afraid that the only noise I can hear is WAHWAHWAH MY PRECIOUS POST!!!!
Submitted by Phallic_Cymbals (user info) at 2008-07-22 10:48:09 EDT (#)
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I have never, EVER met someone in a position to convince me that their opinion regarding welfare is the correct one.
By this I mean no-one has EVER convinced me that they are in a position to state, with authority, that their perception of the proportion of welfare recipients who are deserving and in legitimate need, to those who are not, is the most reflective of real life.
If someone works in the welfare office, NOT AS A DESK LADY but rather in a position where it is their job to quantify and report on abuses of welfare payments, and can therefore provide documentation and proof as to the existence/prevalence of abuse within the welfare system, then I would love to see it.
In the meantime, EVERYBODY;
SHUT. THE. FUCK. UP.
Submitted by Littlebint (user info) at 2008-07-22 10:45:07 EDT (#)
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Submitted by BobSandwich (user info) at 2008-07-22 10:19:25 EDT (#)
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That doesn't sound right, the government would be punishing people for being out of a job and receiving tax payer's benefits. It isn't the fact that they are poor, I'm sure there are countless poor people that have less money than these jobless folk that can't take part in this government assistance. I don't think that the government should force people to get jobs, but if those people want handouts they should do all they can to earn them.
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I think another thing that the people complaining havent seemed to pick up on is that if these people are forced to go out and do 'Work' then surely they will be covered by the laws regarding minimum wage and so forth, so they should actually end up better off than if they continued to just claim benefits.
Submitted by shadow (user info) at 2008-07-22 10:21:58 EDT (#)
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I just can't see how people can feel good about themselves while receiving State Benefits. There are a few cases where you don't have much of a choice... but still.
Seriously. I worked in a home improvement shop with a deaf man who could very easily identify the exact kind of hardware you needed for any project, just by reading your lips and looking at whatever you were holding. The plumbing specialist was in a wheelchair, and not only did he pull himself up a very steep hill, dragging his chair all the way, just to get to the shop, but he could tell you anything you ever wanted to know about u-bends and copper fittings, and was twice awarded merit badges for outstanding customer service.
These men would have slit your tires if you suggested they stay home and take money for being different.
Meanwhile my friend in GB has nerve damage in her spine, and cannot work. Can't stand up for more than ten minutes at a time, and still runs a little shop from her house making custom knitting and clothing.
It's not hard to find employment if you're motivated to do a job. And I'll never understand why folks stay unemployed for months at a time while Burger King down the street has "Help Wanted" signs up. What, are you too good to make a burger? Fuck you.
Submitted by BobSandwich (user info) at 2008-07-22 10:19:25 EDT (#)
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Of course the Liberal Whinge-Bags have jumped on this claiming such things as 'the government is trying to punish people for being Poor'. They say that this will make it harder for 'Legitimate' claimants to get their benefits. Really?
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That doesn't sound right, the government would be punishing people for being out of a job and receiving tax payer's benefits. It isn't the fact that they are poor, I'm sure there are countless poor people that have less money than these jobless folk that can't take part in this government assistance. I don't think that the government should force people to get jobs, but if those people want handouts they should do all they can to earn them.
Submitted by Sacrilicious (user info) at 2008-07-22 09:44:27 EDT (#)
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2/3 of people claiming this are zoophiles?
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2008-07-22 09:14:32 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Littlebint (user info) at 2008-07-22 09:09:18 EDT (#)
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I doubt it chap. I dont have time to be anyone else
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WEll I've never seen you all in a room together at the same time.
Submitted by Littlebint (user info) at 2008-07-22 09:09:18 EDT (#)
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I doubt it chap. I dont have time to be anyone else
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2008-07-22 09:07:56 EDT (#)
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I think that you're both Banjo and jesterlilt too...and they're both shit.
Submitted by Littlebint (user info) at 2008-07-22 09:00:40 EDT (#)
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And there is no point hitting any of your 'Gems' as the rest of the internet seems to already have passed judgment on your talent.
I only see you being the cry baby here. You should sort your alter out and decide which personality he is using today
Submitted by orphelia (user info) at 2008-07-22 09:00:22 EDT (#)
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You just gotta love myshit.
Submitted by Littlebint (user info) at 2008-07-22 08:58:50 EDT (#)
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Submitted by myshit (user info) at 2008-07-22 08:53:27 EDT (#)
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wasn't me that got her knickers all in a twist darling.
You know how long it took me to reply with no comment?
How long did it take you, with all tyour bitching and whining?
I tell you what, the fucking n00bs on this site at the momment are the dullest bunch of whingy fucking cunts for years.
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Okay let's play along for a while as I'm bored.
Firstly replying to your worthless comment isn't exactly getting my knickers in a twist Nancy, far from it. It's just like pointing at the idiot at school who turns up in the middle of winter with shorts on and laughing.
It didnt take me long to reply at all.
Noobs? Alters? Boy you have to get your head out of your arse and get a life. This site needs Noobs, as you call them, to continue as you 'Pro Users' seem to have become dormant and rarely post anything, and when you do you seem to have decided that posting anything of worth is beneath you.
Replying to you does not mean being whingy. Respond with comments of worth if you want decent replies.
Now go wipe your nose and get ready for you supper
Submitted by myshit (user info) at 2008-07-22 08:55:24 EDT (#)
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Now go and hit my posts to make yourself feel better.
And some advice... even though I know you are above advice from little people like me.
IF YOU CANNOT HANDLE THE INTERNET DO NOT USE THE INTERNET.
Unplug, and walk away little girl.
Submitted by myshit (user info) at 2008-07-22 08:53:27 EDT (#)
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wasn't me that got her knickers all in a twist darling.
You know how long it took me to reply with no comment?
How long did it take you, with all tyour bitching and whining?
I tell you what, the fucking n00bs on this site at the momment are the dullest bunch of whingy fucking cunts for years.
Submitted by Littlebint (user info) at 2008-07-22 08:49:48 EDT (#)
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Submitted by myshit (user info) at 2008-07-22 08:44:22 EDT (#)
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Shall I call you a WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE?
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Not at all. My little Shit, but if you want your comment to be responded to in anyway other that pointing you out for a pathetic little whelp then you would do good to actually respond to something within the actual post rather than your 'Didnt read it' comment which says more about you being rather surplus to requirements.
Strange that you dont read the post but wallies like you seem to love swimming around looking for responses. What a life you lead, It's Rock and Roll my good man, Rock and Roll!
Submitted by myshit (user info) at 2008-07-22 08:47:22 EDT (#)
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So its fair to assume that you are another of Banjo's alters.
My my Banjo.. you really do have a little experiment going eh?
Submitted by F.J.Bell (user info) at 2008-07-22 08:47:00 EDT (#)
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I agree wholeheartedly.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2008-07-22 08:45:31 EDT (#)
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The thing is with employing disabled people is that, well, they're disabled. A lot of the time that'd make no difference to a medium sized employer like us because we've got lifts and things but there are very real facts that don't go away.
Say the stationary runs out, paper for instance. Could a person in a wheelchair easily get to the stationary cuboard, load up on A4 and get back to their office? No. So someone else will do it. Would a disabled person be able to get to reception easily to move stuff about with a handtruck? Not in a million years. So someone else will do it.
Then there are the health issues. Time off to visit specialists, altered working hours to accomodate their needs and such.
All this means that, like with women who go on maternity leave, that they basically get special treatment. That's all well and good from a costing point of view, afterall a disabled person has the same terms and conditions as everybody else so they don't get more money, but factually they are 'more equal' than their colleauges. It's just the way things are and it can cause frictions between team members.
It's rarely an issue with the way the benefit structure works though because for most disabled people it simply isn't worth going to work.
Submitted by myshit (user info) at 2008-07-22 08:44:22 EDT (#)
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Shall I call you a WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAMBULANCE?
Submitted by MudWhistle (user info) at 2008-07-22 08:44:05 EDT (#)
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the story went like this:
me and grandpa working in the front yard and he says 'come 'ere boy'
how far can you see down that road to the left and I say I dunno maybe a mile before the bend and he says ok how far can you see down the road to the right and I say I dunno maybe about the same and he says ok now if you went to every house on this side and then everyone one on that side asking for work or if they needed anything done then you'd likely never run out of work or having nothing to do.
it was a good lesson, fact is there is always something you can do no matter what.
he also said if you ever see someone working and doing a good job and taking pride in it, regardless of what the job is, pay attention because you'll fucking learn something.
Submitted by Littlebint (user info) at 2008-07-22 08:37:43 EDT (#)
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That doesnt surprise anyone anymore Myshit. You have to be able to in order to do that!
Submitted by myshit (user info) at 2008-07-22 08:36:07 EDT (#)
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didn't read it.