10 things I’ve learned in 30 years (8788 hits)
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Submitted by St_Jimmy (View user info) at 2009-03-06 10:42:15 EST
1. Education will get you in the door, but experience will get you the job. Don't take this the wrong way, education is extremely important and should not be neglected, however, you can expect that everyone else applying for that job as an engineer/nurse/whatever probably has all the required degrees. Who to hire will almost always be determined by who has the most relevant experience. The name of the school on your degree is far less important than whether or not you've demonstrated that you can actually do the job. Rest assured that your GPA will likely not enter into the equation.
2. Understand that outsourcing will never go away. In fact, expect that more jobs will be sent away from western nations and to places like India, China, Vietnam, Brazil, <insert name of next up and coming nation>. The days of sliding into some job and quietly doing menial (white or blue collar) work for 30 years are fast ending. If your job does not add anything of real value, it will be sent off and done cheaper elsewhere sooner or later. Innovation and creativity are what justify the high standard of living we enjoy. Why should we be paid so well for work which requires neither?
3. Read books and always keep learning. By books I don't mean kids stuff like Harry Potter or those vampire books. Sure, those are entertaining, if that's what you're in to. Read books about economics, politics, history, philosophy. Books that help you understand the world around you. Take in different sources and ideas. Get more of a background than a 30 second CNN soundbite or a Wikipedia article. Remember the words of Mark Twain, "The man who does not read books has no advantage over the man that cannot read them."
4. Practice critical thinking. Don't always take things at face value. As I mentioned in 3, read books but don't always read books you know you'll agree with. If you're a liberal, read something by Kevin Phillips. If you're a conservative, read something by Fareed Zakaria. Note that I didn't mention Limbaugh or Franken. No sense wasting your time. There's junk on both sides of the aisle. The point is to see and understand the other side of the argument even if you don't agree with it. Here's a fun game. Pick an issue and write an argument against what you believe. Pro-choice? Then write against abortion. Against the bank bailout? Then write for it. The inability to do these things demonstrates a lack of critical thinking ability, but like with anything, it can improve with practice.
5. Eat well. Stay in shape. Western society has made it extraordinarily easy for us to become sedentary, however humans were not designed as such. We're not meant to consume large quantities of polyhypersaturatedhydrogenized whatever. We're not supposed to sit around all day. Sure, some of that is unavoidable, but a lot of it isn't. Get out there and do something. Have a salad every now and again. Set a goal. Lose weight, run a 10K, whatever. It doesn't matter what you do but that you're doing something. You'll look better. You'll feel better. You'll probably end up pretty surprised what you're capable of.
6. Set goals. So what is it exactly that you're trying to do here? Figure that out and write them down. This is actually a lot tougher than it sounds. When you're young, it's easy. Graduate high school. Get into college. Finish college. Get a job. But once you've settled into life, it's not so obvious anymore. There's nobody telling you what to do long term. It's all on you. Sitting down, figuring out what you want to do, and writing it down not only allows you to keep things straight, but also allows you to track your progress. You should explicitly define what success means to you. I know this sounds stupid, but it is important. Like Yogi Berra said "You gotta be careful if you don't know where you're going, otherwise you might not get there."
7. Give money (or time) to charity. Most people seem to agree with this one. Sure, there are some crap charities out there, but there are some really good ones as well. Pick some of the good ones and give them money (or time). Keep track of how much you give over a year and (if it's money) calculate it as a percentage of your net yearly income. I think this is important because most people tend to drastically overestimate how much they support their charities. Oh, and just an opinion, if a church does not do charitable work, then it's not a charity.
8. Thoroughly understand anything financial before you start messing around with it. This goes for credit cards, mortgages, CDs, 401Ks, online stock trading, etc. There are a whole lot of people out there who really want to separate you from your money. Your ignorance enables them to do that. Always look out for number one.
9. Spend less than you make. This one is often overlooked, so I feel it bears mentioning.
10. Know that having been born a free citizen of a western nation; you have opportunities available to you that most of the rest of the world will never have. You are not special. You have these opportunities simply from the dumb luck of having been born in the right place at the right time. Appreciate that fact and try not to forget it.
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Submitted by experima (user info) at 2009-03-12 13:03:26 EDT (#)
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i <3 st jimmy
Submitted by HellRazer (user info) at 2009-03-11 11:17:24 EDT (#)
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Wow. I was suprised by this one, I expected one of those "everything I needed to know..." rip offs. That's some real solid advice being jammed in your ignorant asses, so I hope you guys paid attention and learned something here.
Submitted by simple_catalyst (user info) at 2009-03-10 16:30:37 EDT (#)
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enjoyable.
Submitted by bart (user info) at 2009-03-10 02:08:26 EDT (#)
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What gascs said
Submitted by Sacrilicious (user info) at 2009-03-10 01:17:25 EDT (#)
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Submitted by bromide (user info) at 2009-03-09 09:21:49 EDT (#)
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Submitted by whiskey_jack (user info) at 2009-03-07 02:45:04 EST (#)
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herion even!
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Submitted by whiskey_jack (user info) at 2009-03-07 02:44:41 EST (#)
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11. Who needs all that when you've got herione?
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Nope, still wrong!
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Submitted by gascs (user info) at 2009-03-09 10:26:41 EDT (#)
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Something well-thought out and reasonably intelligent? I must be lost, I meant to be trolling ubersite. My apologies.
Submitted by bromide (user info) at 2009-03-09 09:21:49 EDT (#)
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Submitted by whiskey_jack (user info) at 2009-03-07 02:45:04 EST (#)
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herion even!
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Submitted by whiskey_jack (user info) at 2009-03-07 02:44:41 EST (#)
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11. Who needs all that when you've got herione?
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Nope, still wrong!
Submitted by whiskey_jack (user info) at 2009-03-09 06:49:47 EDT (#)
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For realz though dawg you kinda suck...
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Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2009-03-09 01:22:06 EDT (#)
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um Bubba - I don't want you to flip out or anything - but can you make up your mind about how you feel about this post?
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Jimmy: I'm special, dammit.
Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-08 23:20:42 EDT (#)
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Submitted by retrospect (user info) at 2009-03-08 10:53:54 EDT (#)
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haha look at bubba posturing about his "retirement accounts". he openly stated a few months ago he was waiting for social security disability benefits to get approved. pathetic.
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And you, asshole, don't know what to believe, do you?
Keep babbling, asslick. Just keep on. . . .
Submitted by i_can_get_you_a_toe (user info) at 2009-03-08 15:25:30 EDT (#)
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wow, what a gripping life you have led.
Submitted by retrospect (user info) at 2009-03-08 10:53:54 EDT (#)
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haha look at bubba posturing about his "retirement accounts". he openly stated a few months ago he was waiting for social security disability benefits to get approved. pathetic.
Submitted by Wildman (user info) at 2009-03-08 01:59:53 EST (#)
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Stop spending money you don't have on shit you don't need and the problem will solve itself.
Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-07 16:37:27 EST (#)
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Submitted by iddqd (user info) at 2009-03-07 08:41:36 EST (#)
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wow, youre deep. i bet you get laid by fat chicks a lot.
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Fer Christs'sake' asshole. May you dieina tornado. . . ., .
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2009-03-07 13:34:05 EST (#)
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Hmmm...
Submitted by iddqd (user info) at 2009-03-07 08:41:36 EST (#)
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wow, youre deep. i bet you get laid by fat chicks a lot.
Submitted by Phallic_Cymbals (user info) at 2009-03-07 04:17:30 EST (#)
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Submitted by messmind (user info) at 2009-03-07 04:06:15 EST (#)
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Doesn't all of the above fall into the 'common sense' area?
Offcourse common sense was eradicated some decades ago.
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"Common sense is the collection of prejudices acquired by age eighteen."
Shit's overrated.
Submitted by messmind (user info) at 2009-03-07 04:06:15 EST (#)
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Doesn't all of the above fall into the 'common sense' area?
Offcourse common sense was eradicated some decades ago.
We're doomed by thinking in compartments, not seing the whole (closed) system.
some of our mayor killers:
Greed
Anti-socialism
impatience (whoever remembers the term 'spitzenbogen'?)
hate
procrastination (a direct product of a spoiled society)
there are some more, but my hangover blocks my memory...
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Submitted by whiskey_jack (user info) at 2009-03-07 02:45:04 EST (#)
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herion even!
Submitted by whiskey_jack (user info) at 2009-03-07 02:44:41 EST (#)
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11. Who needs all that when you've got herione?
Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-06 22:14:07 EST (#)
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Folks overseas may make 10 cents per day, and that is why this assholes post is full of shit. . . .
Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2009-03-06 21:59:27 EST (#)
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Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:45:21 EST (#)
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Yes, spend < earn. I agree with that.
It sounds as though your parents (and you) are smart. You chose to lower your standard of living (ie go without) until you could afford what you wanted.
It seems that what you're suggesting here is that everyone agree to lower their standard of living (agree to pay more for goods) in order to employ more unskilled people. Hmmm. I'm not expert, but my experience with human nature tells me that probably isn't going to fly. Now I suppose you could use government to put controls in place to give people no choice, but do you really want that much government involvement?
It didn't work out too well for the Soviets. Plus it made them EVIL! You're from the '80s, you know. You saw what Drago could do. I mean, he didn't have to kill him! Weeeeeep, poor Apollo.
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Unskilled people? look even in the ghettos of the US the people there have more education than the average chinese factory worker. Now India on the other hand...they are obsessed with education over there. We have to watch them closely, they have the drive and work ethic of the US in the 40's and 50's, but have modern technological advancements to work with. I dont think theres anything wrong with lowering your standard of living a little, I mean our fucking country has been spoiled the past decade (and back even further I think) into thinking this kind of economic growth is normal! My question is, what happens when the people who are basically our production lackeys (i.e. india, china, vietnam etc.) begin demanding wages that fit the job which they have been tasked to do? Eventually I think they are going to say to themselves "why the fuck am I doing this for 10 dollars a month when the company who is paying me used to have to pay at least min. wage to someone else! It surprises me that people are shocked by the economy turning south. I mean did you really think that 10 dollar DVD player wasn't going to come with some sort of pricetag on the back end?
And fuck Drago, cheating kazack pussy.
RIP Apollo Creed
Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-06 21:53:49 EST (#)
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$2200 per YEAR??? Bullshit. I get twice that PER MONTH.
I be rich and shit!!!
Submitted by skrapmetal (user info) at 2009-03-06 21:38:20 EST (#)
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If it cost $2200US to live for a year at every single place where humans live on Earth, that median income figure might have some real meaning. But it doesn't.
Submitted by Phallic_Cymbals (user info) at 2009-03-06 21:21:17 EST (#)
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The median world income (The guy that has 3 billion people richer and 3 billion people poorer than him) is $2200USD a year.
If you get more than that, you're in the lucky end.
Submitted by CHR15 (user info) at 2009-03-06 20:31:09 EST (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Ducky (user info) at 2009-03-06 20:21:59 EST (#)
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Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-06 19:41:34 EST (#)
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Submitted by Quint (user info) at 2009-03-06 17:54:48 EST (#)
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You could also add a #11:
If you are really desperate for sex, take Method's Mom out on a date. She puts out. Everytime. In fact, you can even skip the date part.
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??????? Number 11 was covered in the filename, Method. Forget how to read??
Submitted by shadow (user info) at 2009-03-06 18:38:52 EST (#)
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10. Know that having been born a free citizen of a western nation...
I thanks sweet jebus every morning when I don't wake up in Baghdad. True story.
Submitted by Quint (user info) at 2009-03-06 17:54:48 EST (#)
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You could also add a #11:
If you are really desperate for sex, take Method's Mom out on a date. She puts out. Everytime. In fact, you can even skip the date part.
Submitted by AW4416 (user info) at 2009-03-06 17:15:46 EST (#)
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Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-06 15:28:33 EST (#)
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No, it puts you right up there with Marx and Engels, and they were also full of shit.
No more full of shit than the idiot's who came up with Capitalism.
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2009-03-06 17:12:48 EST (#)
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hey i want my comission
Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-06 17:08:11 EST (#)
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Haiku makes some very good points. Imo swipe a word here from the Brits; I just can't be "arsed" to put that much thought into a reply.
Submitted by haikumikoo (user info) at 2009-03-06 16:11:41 EST (#)
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...that should probably read, "ignore your original idea IN ORDER to say" for clarity.
Submitted by haikumikoo (user info) at 2009-03-06 16:10:00 EST (#)
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Yo, Jimmy, I understand the sentiment that poor starving people should have as much of a right to work and to the general "pursuit of happiness" as I do...and I can see the other side as well , "taking care of your own" first, as small minded as it may seem at times.
The only point I wanted to toss in real quickly, is that there are definitely harmful aspects of globalization for the developing countries that you seem to be ignoring. There are reasons why we have things like minimum wage, certain codes and standards based on the environment and our idea of human rights, and so on that are ignored when American corporations build their factories (among other things) overseas. A lot of these multinational companies have horrible stains on their human rights records, and it seems to me that aspect deserves at least some of your attention.
Also, you seem to be acknowledging the fact that all any of us are trying to do is basically survive, and that no human deserves anymore of a shot than another human. At that point it seems like you have to ignore your original idea to say that the people who deserve the work are the ones who are just as capable (ostensibly) but in more need financially. It just seems inconsistent, but that doesn't make me any less uncomfortable asserting that I, as you said, am special because I was born on the right patch of soil.
For the time being I think I'll just drink sangria and pretend there are no good solutions and that we've simply exceeded the carrying capacity of little old Earth. Hopefully that makes me feel slightly less overwhelmed and/or stupid (key word is "feel", as opposed to something like "be" or simply a blank space in this case).
Good old alcohol, full of empty calories and completely empty of real solutions.
Wish me luck!
Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-06 15:49:54 EST (#)
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PS: 50 jobs? Try >500,000.
Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-06 15:48:52 EST (#)
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The Amish would be very happy. . .
Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2009-03-06 15:45:14 EST (#)
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Businesses hurt people all the time. How is outsourcing 50 jobs to China any different than automating an assembly line and firing 50 people because their jobs can now be done by a couple of robots? Would you rather factories go back to using Amish-style human-powered tools in place of CNC machines just to create jobs?
Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-06 15:38:18 EST (#)
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Scourgey, I was on unemployment for six months. Then, I decided to call in all of my retirement accounts. I took the unemployment because I earned it. Now, I live on what I earned over the years. Try to stay current, you tiny little man. Please?
Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-06 15:35:33 EST (#)
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Yes, they were full of shit. "From each according to his abilities, to each according to his needs" simply forgot human greed and the desire to achieve.
Nuclear Physicists and janitors shouldn't make the same money. But we shouldn't outsource anything if it hurts our pwople.
Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2009-03-06 15:33:14 EST (#)
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yes bubba, this is certainly the tale of a man who retired into the lap of luxury: http://www.ubersite.com/m/115266
because you're so incredibly stupid i'll tell you something very simply:
unemployment benefits are NOT the same as retirement benefits. yes, i know Dante and Cletus down at the SS office and yourself have convinced each other that they are, but sadly you are all quite delusional as well as being unwashed and inebriated.
Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2009-03-06 15:31:31 EST (#)
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Right, since Marx and Engels would have advocated protectionist government controls over the economy so foreign labor couldn't compete, while I seem to be saying the exact opposite.
Good point.
P.S. Marx and Engels were full of shit though.
Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-06 15:28:33 EST (#)
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No, it puts you right up there with Marx and Engels, and they were also full of shit.
Submitted by Toddler (user info) at 2009-03-06 15:27:27 EST (#)
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Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2009-03-06 15:24:57 EST (#)
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Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-06 15:00:35 EST (#)
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You missed the entire point. The point was: TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN AND STOP FRETTING ABOUT THE MONEY
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Stop fretting about the money? Seriously? Dude, what planet are you from?
Do you really think the standard of living you enjoy is a result of for-profit entities "TAKING CARE OF THEIR OWN AND NOT FRETTING ABOUT THE MONEY"?
I'm going to wager that you don't travel much. Ever been to any of the countries we've been talking about? China, India, Brazil have some spectacularly poor people. They would view the poorest Americans like we see Bill Gates. Yet these unskilled people deserve to live in shacks while unskilled Americans deserve so much better simply because of their country of birth?
You seem to support capitalism, hard work, competition when the "right" people come out ahead. I say, pay a man what he's worth, regardless of his country of origin. Then, I suppose that makes me prejudiced. Or is it unamerican? I've lost track.
Submitted by Blackberry (user info) at 2009-03-06 15:23:59 EST (#)
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Yes, now Bubba has all the time in the world to create custom seasonal camouflage so that he can crouch in the bushes outside of his local elementary school all year round with his portable radio, listening to Rush Limbaugh, breathing heavily, and masturbating furiously with his left hand while he strokes his Edward James Olmos-like visage with his calloused, wart infested digits.
We are absolutely green with envy.
Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-06 15:19:22 EST (#)
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Sorry, scourgey-poo, I no longer work. I made enough before you were born that I am now retired. Keep on slugging it out daily at Burger King. Whomp dem Whoppers, little man.
Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2009-03-06 15:16:16 EST (#)
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Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:52:19 EST (#)
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Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:49:29 EST (#)
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bubba is so fucking stupid it hurts me to read his drivel.
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Then have your job sent to China, you stupid fuck.
Keep on kissing up to the assholes, asshole.
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oh, i'm sorry bubba, but it seems you're operating under the assumption that my profession is on a par with yours, i.e. Wal-Mart greeter, day laborer, shoe shine boy, etc.
much like on uber, in the real world i'm a fucking bigshot.
as i don't answer a complaint hotline or some other sort of zombie labour which the likes of you would be minimally reimbursed for doing, my employment is quite secure.
Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-06 15:05:12 EST (#)
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Sorry, EI, but this guy is a wannabe intellectual who goes with the new-wave liberal mindset prevalent in the colleges today. He is dead fucking wrong. I can hardly wait until he is lai..... No, I won't wish that, even on him. . . .
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2009-03-06 15:02:28 EST (#)
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Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-06 15:00:35 EST (#)
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You missed the entire point. The point was: TAKE CARE OF YOUR OWN AND STOP FRETTING ABOUT THE MONEY.
Let your people go hungry just to satisfy some intellectual whim about foreigners? Just go away.
Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:56:00 EST (#)
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Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:22:30 EST (#)
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Who the fuck said the kid down the street will do the job for two bucks????
Stick to the point and stop.
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Sigh. Here's how I interpret your analogy. The homeowner is a US company, the son is an American worker, and the kid down the street is foreign labor. Part of the reason the analogy fails is that you imply that the American worker and the foreign worker are paid the same ($10) when in reality the foreign workers are paid much less. These reduced costs are why companies outsource in the first place.
At least, I assume that this scenario was an analogy and you're not simply asking about my preference in lawn care providers. If you are however, I'll have to answer that I would hire neither the son nor the kid down the street. I'd just hire a Mexican day laborer for $1.50. Have you ever seen those guys? They do a much better job than any kid would ever do.
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:54:57 EST (#)
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come on everyone, stop being so angry.
Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:52:19 EST (#)
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Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:49:29 EST (#)
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bubba is so fucking stupid it hurts me to read his drivel.
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Then have your job sent to China, you stupid fuck.
Keep on kissing up to the assholes, asshole.
Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:50:24 EST (#)
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physically.
it physically fucking pains me.
Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:49:29 EST (#)
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bubba is so fucking stupid it hurts me to read his drivel.
Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:45:21 EST (#)
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Submitted by LittleMonster (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:10:28 EST (#)
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This is rather patronising. Not what I've come to expect from you.
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Really? I actually was trying not to come off like that. Perhaps, I've failed. Either way, good to see you. You should post more (read: another cleavage camwhore as I've worn the last one out).
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Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:01:19 EST (#)
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-My issue is with whether or not people DESERVE to buy that product then. In the 80's when I was a baby my parents wanted to get a new couch. They couldnt, because it was too expensive. This in turn caused them to WAIT, SAVE, and buy said couch at a later date. They didnt FINANCE because they JUST COULDNT WAIT AND HAD TO HAVE IT NOW. Instead they worked for it, Saved for it, and I think are better people for living that way. It may be an outdated style of living but I think if you want the best you should pay for it. Yes it may take longer to get the money, but its worth it knowing that you got a better product. Heres an idea, if keeping people working in this country means that products will be more expensive then so be it. The idea is to KEEP PEOPLE WORKING AND OFF UNEMPLOYMENT. If that happens, the outcome can only be better than someone leeching off the Govt.
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Yes, spend < earn. I agree with that.
It sounds as though your parents (and you) are smart. You chose to lower your standard of living (ie go without) until you could afford what you wanted.
It seems that what you're suggesting here is that everyone agree to lower their standard of living (agree to pay more for goods) in order to employ more unskilled people. Hmmm. I'm not expert, but my experience with human nature tells me that probably isn't going to fly. Now I suppose you could use government to put controls in place to give people no choice, but do you really want that much government involvement?
It didn't work out too well for the Soviets. Plus it made them EVIL! You're from the '80s, you know. You saw what Drago could do. I mean, he didn't have to kill him! Weeeeeep, poor Apollo.
Submitted by TheGoat (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:44:19 EST (#)
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So outsourcing to African countries should be encouraged
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Submitted by TheGoat (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:42:48 EST (#)
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i was reading a book that said that the gap between the rich nations and those at the bottom is widening. The authors research pointed out that the countries at the bottom are worse off than they were back in the 70s and the situation is not going to improve unless these nations get help.
India, China, Vietnam, Brazil, <insert name of next up and coming nation>, are already on their way to decent economies. The engine is running and the task is to keep up the revs...for the countries at the bottom (most of which are in Africa)- the engine is dead cold and in some case, needs repairing.
Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:42:16 EST (#)
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Submitted by Blackberry (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:34:52 EST (#)
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Oh look, Bubba the drunk has anally fisted his painful opinion into yet another discussion. Aren't we lucky.
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Fuck off.
Your opinion means less than mine.
Submitted by Blackberry (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:34:52 EST (#)
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Oh look, Bubba the drunk has anally fisted his painful opinion into yet another discussion. Aren't we lucky.
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:31:01 EST (#)
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fg gets me so hot!
Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:29:30 EST (#)
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Har Har Hardy Har Har
But alas, it's true. Back then we had to use cuneiform tablets and launch them into the air via catapult. That was REAL e-mailin'! None of this pansy type type type send crap.
Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:27:43 EST (#)
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Since you seem to want to help the Chinese or Indians, why don't you move over there? Your distorted logic may fly with them, but it is foolish here.
You have been brainwashed by too many liberal professors in college. You don't have a clue about taking care of your own. May all of your children hate you and may you be killed by a Chinaman. Dumbass.
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:23:23 EST (#)
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Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2009-03-06 16:24:30 GMT (#)
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Pretty good stuff. I might have written the same thing on my big 3-Oh although mine would have varied a little.
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Also, the internet hadn't been invented then.
Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:22:30 EST (#)
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First off, I said innovative and creative people will be secure. Those with real expertise and the ability to come up with the next big thing will always be needed. That's the stuff you can't get from India or China.
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Your words, not mine. What are we supposed to take from that? You just said that China or India cannot come up with the 'next big thing'.
Who the fuck said the kid down the street will do the job for two bucks????
Stick to the point and stop.
Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:18:33 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
Submitted by LittleMonster (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:16:57 EST (#)
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balance. this wasnt bad....im grumpy.
sorry sweets.
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I'm not sorry in the least. I want an answer.
Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:18:19 EST (#)
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"So you're saying that India and China have no intelligent people, no one capable of innovative or creative ideas? Your prejudice conflicts with your concept of "global ecpnomy.""
Actually, I've said nothing of the sort. Not sure how you came to that. Of course there intelligent people everywhere and the US certainly has no monoply on innovation, however I really can't think of too many ground breaking things to have come out of those countries in the recent past. These countries that we outsource to are in the process of playing catch up. They're not where we are, plain and simple. That's not prejudice, that's just how it is. Who are you going to employ to come up with the next big thing to rocket your company into the next decade, an American engineer who developed the iPod, or a Chinese engineer who just figured out how an iPod works?
"Regardless of your opinion of 'why' things happened, you seem to misunderstand the need for economic stability in our own country. Answer my fucking question about your son or the neighbor boy cutting the grass. Will you cheat your son?"
That's a terrible analogy. In your analogy, the kid down the street should command $2 for the same work the son commands $10 for. Also, let's not forget that an individual is not a company competing and fighting to survive against other companies. So it doesn't really matter to you if you overpay to have your lawn cut. You seem to think that your son deserves five times the compensation for the SAME work simply by virtue of his place of birth. From where I sit, you appear the prejudiced one.
Would you five times more for a vacuum soley because it was made in the US? Would you expect the rest of the country to do the same?
Submitted by LittleMonster (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:16:57 EST (#)
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balance. this wasnt bad....im grumpy.
sorry sweets.
Submitted by LittleMonster (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:10:28 EST (#)
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This is rather patronising. Not what I've come to expect from you.
Submitted by TheGoat (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:01:31 EST (#)
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Completely agree with every point, especially number 11. As for outsourcing, what about Africa? Zimbabwe has 95%, read-ninety five percent unemployment, people would stomp all over each other for a taste of the American dollar.
Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2009-03-06 14:01:19 EST (#)
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Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2009-03-06 13:32:17 EST (#)
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Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:52:46 EST (#)
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Because their "work" is detrimental to our economy. The jobs they work and wages that they are paid (agreed they are paid SUBSTANTIALLY less than what an american worker would make) directly remove said job from an American citizen who would normally be able to, guess what?...SPEND MONEY in OUR ECONOMY not halfway across the fucking planet where it makes no difference to us. We used to be a country that PRODUCED products that others wanted to buy, now we are a nation of service industry consumerist maniacs with no tangible job skills in PRODUCTION. Sadly, we used to be a nation that made products better than any other, thereby making our economy strong. Now our obsession with "going to college and getting the cushy high paying office job" has wimped us into a nation of people afraid to get their hands dirty, and unable to change our own lightbulbs. God help me I wish I had the foresight to go to school and be a fucking plumber after highschool. Id be making 90 dollars an hour. Shouldn't they be allowed to compete? What about the single parent trying to feed their kid but can't find a job because Punjeet is doing the same work for 3 U.S. dollars a day? I say take care of your own first (and I dont mean welfare, I mean make the oppourtunity available for good honest work) and then take care of others.
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The Chinese goverenment uses our dollars to buy Treasury bonds, thus selling us back our own dollars.
- The Chinese unfortunately DONT use our money, its considered contraband to use or carry US currency in China. Also, when their merchants bring US dollars to be exchanged, the chinese government has a floating exchange rate, so theres no telling what rate they could get that day. In essence the chinese are using chinese funds. Which is the reason why they have over a TRILLION dollars in hard currency sitting over there right now!
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For instance, where do you think most of the value is added to an iPod, the physical assembly of the unit or from the software on it? The Chinese (or whoever) may put it together, but the real money goes to the skilled ones who write the apps (the Americans, I believe).
-It makes sense that more money goes to the skilled workers who write the software programs we use everyday, but in the grand scheme of things their money is a drop in the ocean. What would benefit our economy more, 10 highly skilled workers who make 6 figures a year that pay their taxes?, or 10,000 moderately paid employees ($25,000-$35,000 per year) who (now that they have a job) are paying taxes, and buying products in THIS COUNTRY (also paying sales tax BTW)? I think that latter would boost the economy more, dont you? It would hurt Apple's year end profit margin, but maybe companies arent meant to have 80 percent growth in 8 years...
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I'm not sure what's wrong with wanting a cushy, high-paying job. I think most rational people, given the choice, would opt to make more money while working (physically) less hard.
-Theres nothing wrong with wanting to make a good wage and work less hard, but unfortunately someone has to. And right now to protect their profits companies are paying people over seas. Thereby taking that potential US workers money out of circulation. You cant live on an economy that doesnt produce enough to support itself.
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<cheap shot> I agree that you should have gone to plumbing school, but I would be concerned that all the tight spaces under sinks and behind toilets might pose a problem. </cheap shot>
-NICE, I can't hate on a decent joke.
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I don't see how a company could be expected to compete with disproportionatley large labor costs. Sure, some consumers will "Buy American" for its own sake, but not many will buy American if it's THAT much more expensive.
-My issue is with whether or not people DESERVE to buy that product then. In the 80's when I was a baby my parents wanted to get a new couch. They couldnt, because it was too expensive. This in turn caused them to WAIT, SAVE, and buy said couch at a later date. They didnt FINANCE because they JUST COULDNT WAIT AND HAD TO HAVE IT NOW. Instead they worked for it, Saved for it, and I think are better people for living that way. It may be an outdated style of living but I think if you want the best you should pay for it. Yes it may take longer to get the money, but its worth it knowing that you got a better product. Heres an idea, if keeping people working in this country means that products will be more expensive then so be it. The idea is to KEEP PEOPLE WORKING AND OFF UNEMPLOYMENT. If that happens, the outcome can only be better than someone leeching off the Govt. As far as "buying American" goes, that statement used to mean something. In this day and age buying american means that your buying an american BRAND not an american product. For example BUCK pocketknives has a division that makes knives based in China. They still use the Buck name, but the knives are made elsewhere. They also have an AMERICAN division that still makes knives at a factory in the US. The US made knives are about twice as much, but the quality is by far better than the chinese made knives. Better parts, better construction. It took me longer to get the American made knife, but I know that it will last me the rest of my life.
Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-06 13:55:34 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
First off, I said innovative and creative people will be secure. Those with real expertise and the ability to come up with the next big thing will always be needed. That's the stuff you can't get from India or China.
I never said you should get your currrent events from books. Political and economic books go "out of date", but that doesn't mean that the bigger picture they give you becomes irrelevant. The CNN soundbite will tell you that the market's dropped below 7,000. A solid background understanding will give you some clue of what that really means, why it's relevant, and why it happened.
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So you're saying that India and China have no intelligent people, no one capable of innovative or creative ideas? Your prejudice conflicts with your concept of "global ecpnomy."
Regardless of your opinion of 'why' things happened, you seem to misunderstand the need for economic stability in our own country. Answer my fucking question about your son or the neighbor boy cutting the grass. Will you cheat your son?
Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2009-03-06 13:42:08 EST (#)
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Submitted by crsunlimited (user info) at 2009-03-06 13:09:43 EST (#)
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Sorry I have to disagree with you on #2 and #3.
It's not innovative or Creative jobs that are going to stick around. Services are the only thing that will stay here. Even those jobs though are being done by people from other countries who are studying here, so really NO JOB is safe, unless you are a government employee.
Political books, and Economical books are out of date within a year or less. So they aren't worth your time to read up on when the information in them changes so often. Your soundbite on CNN is more informative to current relevant information then these books, that where written 6 months ago and published last week, will ever be.
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First off, I said innovative and creative people will be secure. Those with real expertise and the ability to come up with the next big thing will always be needed. That's the stuff you can't get from India or China.
I never said you should get your currrent events from books. Political and economic books go "out of date", but that doesn't mean that the bigger picture they give you becomes irrelevant. The CNN soundbite will tell you that the market's dropped below 7,000. A solid background understanding will give you some clue of what that really means, why it's relevant, and why it happened.
Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2009-03-06 13:32:17 EST (#)
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Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:52:46 EST (#)
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Because their "work" is detrimental to our economy. The jobs they work and wages that they are paid (agreed they are paid SUBSTANTIALLY less than what an american worker would make) directly remove said job from an American citizen who would normally be able to, guess what?...SPEND MONEY in OUR ECONOMY not halfway across the fucking planet where it makes no difference to us. We used to be a country that PRODUCED products that others wanted to buy, now we are a nation of service industry consumerist maniacs with no tangible job skills in PRODUCTION. Sadly, we used to be a nation that made products better than any other, thereby making our economy strong. Now our obsession with "going to college and getting the cushy high paying office job" has wimped us into a nation of people afraid to get their hands dirty, and unable to change our own lightbulbs. God help me I wish I had the foresight to go to school and be a fucking plumber after highschool. Id be making 90 dollars an hour. Shouldn't they be allowed to compete? What about the single parent trying to feed their kid but can't find a job because Punjeet is doing the same work for 3 U.S. dollars a day? I say take care of your own first (and I dont mean welfare, I mean make the oppourtunity available for good honest work) and then take care of others.
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Nice response!
First off, I'm not sure of the concept of "our economy" in this day and age. Do you think the Chinese economy is independent of ours (or vice versa)? For example, US companies send work and money to Chinese factories. The Chinese government gets a taste of that money (through taxes and other means, I assume). The Chinese goverenment uses our dollars to buy Treasury bonds, thus selling us back our own dollars. The result, for the first time in history the US goes to war (twice!) WITHOUT raising taxes. I'm not saying it's right or wrong, but I do think a lot of the "us vs. them" thinking is outdated.
I don't think I'd go as far as to say the US has no production skills, although I would agree we physically produce less than we used to. While the ability to produce will never become irrelevant, it has become less important in the modern, information/knowledge economy. For instance, where do you think most of the value is added to an iPod, the physical assembly of the unit or from the software on it? The Chinese (or whoever) may put it together, but the real money goes to the skilled ones who write the apps (the Americans, I believe).
I'm not sure what's wrong with wanting a cushy, high-paying job. I think most rational people, given the choice, would opt to make more money while working (physically) less hard.
<cheap shot> I agree that you should have gone to plumbing school, but I would be concerned that all the tight spaces under sinks and behind toilets might pose a problem. </cheap shot>
As for your single parent, I said earlier that technology continues to raise the bar. The only options are to gain skills or be willing to accept a lower standard of living. I'm not opposed to having factories in this country, but if the work could be done by the Chinese or whoever, US workers should not expect to be paid that much more than their foreign competitors. (Of course they'd make a bit more since the company would be saving on shipping and likely benefiting from higher quality.) Otherwise, I don't see how a company could be expected to compete with disproportionatley large labor costs. Sure, some consumers will "Buy American" for its own sake, but not many will buy American if it's THAT much more expensive.
Submitted by crsunlimited (user info) at 2009-03-06 13:09:43 EST (#)
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Sorry I have to disagree with you on #2 and #3.
It's not innovative or Creative jobs that are going to stick around. Services are the only thing that will stay here. Even those jobs though are being done by people from other countries who are studying here, so really NO JOB is safe, unless you are a government employee.
Political books, and Economical books are out of date within a year or less. So they aren't worth your time to read up on when the information in them changes so often. Your soundbite on CNN is more informative to current relevant information then these books, that where written 6 months ago and published last week, will ever be.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2009-03-06 13:05:47 EST (#)
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Who can argue with this list?
Well, besides Shlongy, of course...but I won't.
Uber bores me.
Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-06 12:38:52 EST (#)
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The other side of the coin:
How much work have Chinese factories sent to the U.S.?
Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-06 12:19:26 EST (#)
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I had to run to the store, and while I was gone it seems the good Sgt gave Jimmy an excellent answer.
Jimmy, if your grass needs cut, would you offer the ten bucks to the kid down the street before you offered it to your own son?
Submitted by RoadSong (user info) at 2009-03-06 12:06:37 EST (#)
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Good and useful advice.
The problem is, the people who need this advice most won't bother to read it.
Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:52:46 EST (#)
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Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:37:34 EST (#)
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Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:34:36 EST (#)
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Outsourcing is nothing more than a way for the big boys to rake in more money for themselves.
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What about the Indian/Chinese/etc workers? For them, such low-skill labor is a great opportunity and they make more than they could in most other jobs available to them. Why shouldn't they be allowed to compete?
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Because their "work" is detrimental to our economy. The jobs they work and wages that they are paid (agreed they are paid SUBSTANTIALLY less than what an american worker would make) directly remove said job from an American citizen who would normally be able to, guess what?...SPEND MONEY in OUR ECONOMY not halfway across the fucking planet where it makes no difference to us. We used to be a country that PRODUCED products that others wanted to buy, now we are a nation of service industry consumerist maniacs with no tangible job skills in PRODUCTION. Sadly, we used to be a nation that made products better than any other, thereby making our economy strong. Now our obsession with "going to college and getting the cushy high paying office job" has wimped us into a nation of people afraid to get their hands dirty, and unable to change our own lightbulbs. God help me I wish I had the foresight to go to school and be a fucking plumber after highschool. Id be making 90 dollars an hour. Shouldn't they be allowed to compete? What about the single parent trying to feed their kid but can't find a job because Punjeet is doing the same work for 3 U.S. dollars a day? I say take care of your own first (and I dont mean welfare, I mean make the oppourtunity available for good honest work) and then take care of others.
Submitted by AW4416 (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:47:42 EST (#)
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Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:33:45 EST (#)
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Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:24:30 EST (#)
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A factory worker should not expect a wage that allows them to purchase a huge home, top of the line automobile, etc.
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But, in fairness, I don't think the "lots of stuff for cheap" is an American-only thing. People are very self-interested creatures and are only looking out for themselves. Given the choice, I think most people will take more for less and never consider how that may affect others who they haven't (and likely never will) meet.
+1000
Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:45:33 EST (#)
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Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2009-03-06 10:33:45 CST (#)
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You make a fair point and I think expectations do play a role. Maybe once upon a time a factory worker could command such a wage, but technology keeps raising the bar. Now, you have to either gain skills or accept a lower standard of living, neither of which people tend to want to do.
But, in fairness, I don't think the "lots of stuff for cheap" is an American-only thing. People are very self-interested creatures and are only looking out for themselves. Given the choice, I think most people will take more for less and never consider how that may affect others who they haven't (and likely never will) meet.
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True, but we do seem to be leaders in having this mentality. We've been told to buy, buy, buy, spend, spend, spend, amass amass amass by companies who are the only ones who benefit from this attitude. Is it benefiting the average person? Not really. Sure, they may have a few toys, but what are they doing to buy those toys? Living and spending beyond one's means.
And look where that has got us!
Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:37:34 EST (#)
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Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:34:36 EST (#)
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Outsourcing is nothing more than a way for the big boys to rake in more money for themselves.
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What about the Indian/Chinese/etc workers? For them, such low-skill labor is a great opportunity and they make more than they could in most other jobs available to them. Why shouldn't they be allowed to compete?
Submitted by billrhine (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:34:36 EST (#)
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Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:24:30 EST (#)
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Pretty good stuff. I might have written the same thing on my big 3-Oh although mine would have varied a little.
#1. Depends. In this day and age, it is extraordinarily difficult to secure a decent, lucrative job without some kind of higher education. In my father's day, a person could graduate high school and find decent employment. Not so much anymore. Kind of tied into #2....
#2. I for one am opposed to the concept of outsourcing. I was watching an interesting program on outsourcing and American expectations of salary. It is unfeasible to expect every single person to be able to go onto University, whether it be for financial reasons or intellectual capability. That shouldn't mean that those individuals should be denied employment that would allow them to live and maybe raise a family on. However, it would be unreasonable as well to go to the other extreme and pay hefty wages. The more you outsource the so called "menial" jobs to other countries, the more you limit these individuals in securing a life sustaining wage, which causes more reliance on public assistance. To me, (and I freely admit to not knowing everything there is to know about the outsourcing dynamic) it would make more sense in keeping these jobs in the country but redefining the expectation of what a fair wage is. A factory worker should not expect a wage that allows them to purchase a huge home, top of the line automobile, etc. Would this raise prices in general? Yes. I know others disagree, but I would rather pay more for an item if it means keeping these less skilled people in jobs. Americans need to get rid of this 'buy lots n' lots of stuff for cheap' mentality.
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Very well said.
Outsourcing is nothing more than a way for the big boys to rake in more money for themselves. CEOs making 400 Million per year are absurd.
Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:33:45 EST (#)
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Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:24:30 EST (#)
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A factory worker should not expect a wage that allows them to purchase a huge home, top of the line automobile, etc.
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You make a fair point and I think expectations do play a role. Maybe once upon a time a factory worker could command such a wage, but technology keeps raising the bar. Now, you have to either gain skills or accept a lower standard of living, neither of which people tend to want to do.
But, in fairness, I don't think the "lots of stuff for cheap" is an American-only thing. People are very self-interested creatures and are only looking out for themselves. Given the choice, I think most people will take more for less and never consider how that may affect others who they haven't (and likely never will) meet.
Submitted by rubbermaid (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:31:20 EST (#)
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ooh, yet another list.
i care this time...because.
FUCK, there is nothing original on the internet anymore :(
Submitted by Danger_Ranger (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:28:08 EST (#)
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oh wow it must be really nice being thirty how amazing for you
u massive dicklord
Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:24:30 EST (#)
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Pretty good stuff. I might have written the same thing on my big 3-Oh although mine would have varied a little.
#1. Depends. In this day and age, it is extraordinarily difficult to secure a decent, lucrative job without some kind of higher education. In my father's day, a person could graduate high school and find decent employment. Not so much anymore. Kind of tied into #2....
#2. I for one am opposed to the concept of outsourcing. I was watching an interesting program on outsourcing and American expectations of salary. It is unfeasible to expect every single person to be able to go onto University, whether it be for financial reasons or intellectual capability. That shouldn't mean that those individuals should be denied employment that would allow them to live and maybe raise a family on. However, it would be unreasonable as well to go to the other extreme and pay hefty wages. The more you outsource the so called "menial" jobs to other countries, the more you limit these individuals in securing a life sustaining wage, which causes more reliance on public assistance. To me, (and I freely admit to not knowing everything there is to know about the outsourcing dynamic) it would make more sense in keeping these jobs in the country but redefining the expectation of what a fair wage is. A factory worker should not expect a wage that allows them to purchase a huge home, top of the line automobile, etc. Would this raise prices in general? Yes. I know others disagree, but I would rather pay more for an item if it means keeping these less skilled people in jobs. Americans need to get rid of this 'buy lots n' lots of stuff for cheap' mentality.
#3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 9, & 10 complete agreement!
Submitted by AW4416 (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:24:23 EST (#)
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While i don't agree with #3 and i think that comparing a 30 second CNN sound bite and a Wiki article is a bit absurd overall i liked it.
Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:16:47 EST (#)
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Submitted by The_Drake (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:14:18 EST (#)
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funny, I have mentioned or cameo'd 4 out of five of those people in previous posts.
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Think of it as a reunion post.
Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:15:52 EST (#)
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Submitted by The_Drake (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:09:31 EST (#)
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and By the way, the last one you sent was a guy.
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That was no guy! That was Melissa Washington of First Citizen's Bank!
If that was a guy then...
OH MY GOD! I've been doing all my banking with a hermaphrodite!
I feel so dirty.
Submitted by The_Drake (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:14:18 EST (#)
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funny, I have mentioned or cameo'd 4 out of five of those people in previous posts.
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:13:09 EST (#)
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oh he better not come round my crib acting the big I AM.
im gonna whoop his butt brother
now drink your milk and eat your vitamins
Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:12:24 EST (#)
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Sorbo vs. the Mormon church
With guest appearances by: Jehova Witnesses, Lucy Lawless, He-Man, and for a cheap laugh, Mohammud.
Aloha Snackbar!
Submitted by The_Drake (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:11:17 EST (#)
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It's on.
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:09:54 EST (#)
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SORBOS A FUCKING PUSSY, IVE TAKEN BIGGER SHITS THAN HIM.
THE END
Submitted by The_Drake (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:09:31 EST (#)
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and By the way, the last one you sent was a guy.
...keep an eye on that.
Submitted by The_Drake (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:08:48 EST (#)
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I was seriously thinking about it. The possibilities are endless, really. I may actually take a crack at it. I just need a good situation to put sorbo in.
...I fucking love that guy.
perhaps Sorbo Vs. EI
Submitted by sage104 (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:06:24 EST (#)
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#4 is my favorite. :)
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:05:50 EST (#)
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oh balls!
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:05:35 EST (#)
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hypocrite below
Submitted by St_Jimmy (user info) at 2009-03-06 11:05:33 EST (#)
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Drake!
We need another episode of this: http://www.ubersite.com/m/101675 Stat!*
*Stat is actually russian and it means "or else I stop sending the whores to your house in the eveningtime"
Submitted by The_Drake (user info) at 2009-03-06 10:57:09 EST (#)
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http://www.ubersite.com/m/116287
I couldn't not +2 this or I'd be a hypocrite.
Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2009-03-06 10:57:04 EST (#)
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point taken. +2 for effort
Submitted by skrapmetal (user info) at 2009-03-06 10:54:59 EST (#)
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These are pretty useful, but honestly I must say that (to me) life advice from a 30yo is as adorable as life advice from a 18yo would be to you or my life advice would be to my 75yo dad. No offense intended, of course.
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2009-03-06 10:50:04 EST (#)
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this is like reading one of those self help books
which of course, I dont have too because I can give multiple orgasms to the furniture just by sitting on it, doesn't mean that I'm not sick of uber: the blood, the noise, the endless poetry.
Submitted by Blackberry (user info) at 2009-03-06 10:45:24 EST (#)
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I love her.
You, however, are a fucking fag.