We're all gonna die (771 hits)
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Submitted by Sandman (View user info) at 2009-04-06 19:03:25 EDT
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Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2009-04-23 08:15:30 EDT (#)
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Submitted by sandmantate (user info) at 2009-04-23 05:53:33 EDT (#)
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All these pictures - I already seen 'em.
Get your shit together, or I start dropping -2bombs and posting pictures of my dick.
Only warning.
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First and only time you made me laugh, ebony smoker.
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I guess the proper protocol is to shower you with a +2 when that happens. My bad.
Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2009-04-23 08:14:57 EDT (#)
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Submitted by sandmantate (user info) at 2009-04-23 05:53:33 EDT (#)
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All these pictures - I already seen 'em.
Get your shit together, or I start dropping -2bombs and posting pictures of my dick.
Only warning.
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First and only time you made me laugh, ebony smoker.
Submitted by Sphagnum (user info) at 2009-04-08 23:39:12 EDT (#)
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394% of people can be convinced of anything by the use of statistics...
Even ones that don't make any kind of sense from a mathematical perspective.
Submitted by simple_catalyst (user info) at 2009-04-08 16:32:00 EDT (#)
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statistics / graph / social science FAIL.
Submitted by sandmantate (user info) at 2009-04-08 11:50:58 EDT (#)
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Surely that is hyperbole! I mean, I'm not even sure that there are 300 words in this post.
Submitted by MyNameIsTim (user info) at 2009-04-08 07:11:38 EDT (#)
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for about 300 reasons, that was the stupidest post i've ever read on the internet.
Submitted by orphelia (user info) at 2009-04-08 05:11:36 EDT (#)
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+2 the poster
Submitted by sandmantate (user info) at 2009-04-08 02:52:22 EDT (#)
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Oh, it's definitly stolen falafel. My thoughts don't generally go this direction. It is interesting when you think about it. like every other trend in human history, a sharp increase like this cannot be sustained. A fall is inevitable, all things being equal.
Submitted by Falafel (user info) at 2009-04-08 00:10:56 EDT (#)
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Interesting (stolen?) theory, but it's probably going to be skewed way to the right.
Possibility A: We'll reach critical mass (or critical ass if the obesity epidemic continues) then quickly kill ourselves off via a lack of arable land/food supply because of unchecked urban growth.
Possibility B: Antarctica will melt and so will much of the North, raising sea levels just enough to fuck up heavily inhabited and industry-filled coastal regions, leaving us with less land to live on and less arable land for food supply.
Possibility C: We'll cure AIDS, then God will make something more horrible to kill us off
Possibility D: We'll pull out of our economic rut, become green, fixing all the world's problems, abolish poverty and achieve world peace... then get smoked by a meteor
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Submitted by Falafel (user info) at 2009-04-08 00:09:59 EDT (#)
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Interesting (stolen?) theory, but it's probably going to be skewed way to the right.
Possibility A: We'll reach critical mass (or critical ass if the obesity epidemic continues) then quickly kill ourselves off via a lack of arable land/food supply because of unchecked urban growth.
Possibility B: Antarctica will melt and so will much of the North, raising sea levels just enough to fuck up heavily inhabited and industry-filled coastal regions, leaving us with less land to live on and less arable land for food supply.
Possibility C: We'll cure AIDS, then God will make something more horrible to kill us off
Possibility D: We'll pull out of our economic rut, become green, fixing all the world's problems, abolish poverty and achieve world peace... then get smoked by a meteor
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Submitted by sandmantate (user info) at 2009-04-07 12:49:19 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Cyrus (user info) at 2009-04-07 12:44:22 EDT (#)
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Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2009-04-06 20:00:28 EDT (#)
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Submitted by lungfish (user info) at 2009-04-06 18:55:24 CDT (#)
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Stats nerds, unite.
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Maybe I've always been a wee dyslexic, but when I see the word unite, it looks like untie.
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Dyslexics of the World, Untie!
another dyslexic joke:
Q: Did you hear about the insomniac dyslexic agnostic?
A: He lay awake a night wondering if there was a Dog.
<sound of crickets>
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I lol'd.
Submitted by sandmantate (user info) at 2009-04-07 12:48:47 EDT (#)
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Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2009-04-07 12:35:35 EDT (#)
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Submitted by sandmantate (user info) at 2009-04-07 12:34:20 EDT (#)
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Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2009-04-07 08:18:09 EDT (#)
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sign me up for space colonization!!!
Wait...they have youporn on mars right?
Right?
Sandman?...
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Of course they do. They invented it.
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WHEW!!! ok cause I never heard Issac Asimov talk about it. Thank god. Ok sign me up then.
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Oh yeah, part of the positronic brain and all that. He didn't mention it because it's just accepted. ISP's don't advertise all the porn you'll get with the internet, because everybody just knows.
Submitted by sandmantate (user info) at 2009-04-07 12:46:35 EDT (#)
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Submitted by CrapWeed (user info) at 2009-04-07 00:06:49 EDT (#)
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But that's assuming we (or anybody else) haven't mastered fusion technology (etc.) by then, which is unlikely, in the extreme. But I'm not disagreeing with you about the 'limited time' thing.
I was just referring to the use of the word "special". I just think it's a little misleading. Otherwise you could say that our "position" in space is also "special," since it's (one of, maybe the only) region where life as we not know it could have arisen. But I don't think that means it's special; it's just a defining characteristic of it.
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You're right. Use of the word "special" is a cop out.
Submitted by Cyrus (user info) at 2009-04-07 12:44:22 EDT (#)
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Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2009-04-06 20:00:28 EDT (#)
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Submitted by lungfish (user info) at 2009-04-06 18:55:24 CDT (#)
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Stats nerds, unite.
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Maybe I've always been a wee dyslexic, but when I see the word unite, it looks like untie.
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Dyslexics of the World, Untie!
another dyslexic joke:
Q: Did you hear about the insomniac dyslexic agnostic?
A: He lay awake a night wondering if there was a Dog.
<sound of crickets>
Submitted by sandmantate (user info) at 2009-04-07 12:41:53 EDT (#)
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Submitted by johnny.b.dumb (user info) at 2009-04-07 00:26:25 EDT (#)
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few sanity notes. Population growth is not necessarily exponential. Bell curve is often used to graph naturally occurring phenomena, distribution of traits, longevity, etc. It makes sense to do this within bounds, 'cause one may graph anything at all, even nonsensical data, including the historical occurrence of 200 foot tall garden snails.
According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:World_population_history.svg world population is growing nearly linearly since the 1950's. Also, the growth rate itself has fallen below thhe lowest figures since the 50's. I would argue that the Malthusian explosion is not feasible since in the areas most subject to rapid population growth ( asia & africa ) the infant mortality rates are high enough to offset the births.
It doesn't necessarily mean we won't all die soon. One may hope.
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the problem with that graph is that it only shows the last 60 years. When you use a larger data set, you see a giant spike starting about 200 years ago. I'm not saying that this proves anything, but look at trends in things like the stock market or basic games of chance like flipping a coin; sharp increases are always followed by sharp drop offs. Most times, the drops are steeper and deeper than the increases.
Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2009-04-07 12:35:35 EDT (#)
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Submitted by sandmantate (user info) at 2009-04-07 12:34:20 EDT (#)
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Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2009-04-07 08:18:09 EDT (#)
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sign me up for space colonization!!!
Wait...they have youporn on mars right?
Right?
Sandman?...
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Of course they do. They invented it.
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WHEW!!! ok cause I never heard Issac Asimov talk about it. Thank god. Ok sign me up then.
Submitted by sandmantate (user info) at 2009-04-07 12:34:20 EDT (#)
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Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2009-04-07 08:18:09 EDT (#)
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sign me up for space colonization!!!
Wait...they have youporn on mars right?
Right?
Sandman?...
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Of course they do. They invented it.
Submitted by sandmantate (user info) at 2009-04-07 12:32:54 EDT (#)
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Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2009-04-07 08:27:20 EDT (#)
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Watching Sandman try to back out of his post by responding to the first couple of reviews was entertaining but completely quitting after being called out was aces.
I, for one, thought it was an interesting comparison although completely foolish.
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I quit because it was one in the morning, butt plunger.
Submitted by captainrads (user info) at 2009-04-07 12:08:05 EDT (#)
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Zombies
That is all.
Submitted by TuTs (user info) at 2009-04-07 11:03:58 EDT (#)
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Ok theoy, however as we are discovering new thinks all the time absolute truths now, may be fallacies in the future. Besides, if our technological advances continue at their current rate hopefully before any major disaster happens there will be adequate contingency plans in place. The dinosaurs had brains the size of walnuts remember.
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2009-04-07 09:56:08 EDT (#)
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Send a Rocket to Uranus.
Submitted by sage104 (user info) at 2009-04-07 09:25:01 EDT (#)
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Not sure how I feel about your supposition, Sandman.
On one hand it seems like it could be possible but my prevailing thought is that our knowledge of the universe is a bit too finite to draw such an absolute conclusion.
Submitted by sicosemen (user info) at 2009-04-07 08:27:20 EDT (#)
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Watching Sandman try to back out of his post by responding to the first couple of reviews was entertaining but completely quitting after being called out was aces.
I, for one, thought it was an interesting comparison although completely foolish.
Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2009-04-07 08:18:09 EDT (#)
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sign me up for space colonization!!!
Wait...they have youporn on mars right?
Right?
Sandman?...
Submitted by Ducky (user info) at 2009-04-07 07:59:49 EDT (#)
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The key word in here occurs directly after the word 'science'.
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2009-04-07 03:57:28 EDT (#)
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im being nice as this looks really boring but well im sure you had good intentions.
EI's theory
We are born
We die
then we all turn into monkeys and live in rainforests
Submitted by pandora (user info) at 2009-04-07 00:47:19 EDT (#)
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I, for one, look forward to the day when the ice caps completely melt and the earth's surface is once more 90% water. Surf party!
Submitted by X54 (user info) at 2009-04-07 00:42:55 EDT (#)
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I was going to say Malthus already thought of this but some dickhead beat me to it. Nevertheless, I wish it would come true. Traffic congestion is getting intolerable.
Submitted by johnny.b.dumb (user info) at 2009-04-07 00:26:25 EDT (#)
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few sanity notes. Population growth is not necessarily exponential. Bell curve is often used to graph naturally occurring phenomena, distribution of traits, longevity, etc. It makes sense to do this within bounds, 'cause one may graph anything at all, even nonsensical data, including the historical occurrence of 200 foot tall garden snails.
According to http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:World_population_history.svg world population is growing nearly linearly since the 1950's. Also, the growth rate itself has fallen below thhe lowest figures since the 50's. I would argue that the Malthusian explosion is not feasible since in the areas most subject to rapid population growth ( asia & africa ) the infant mortality rates are high enough to offset the births.
It doesn't necessarily mean we won't all die soon. One may hope.
Submitted by CrapWeed (user info) at 2009-04-07 00:06:49 EDT (#)
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But that's assuming we (or anybody else) haven't mastered fusion technology (etc.) by then, which is unlikely, in the extreme. But I'm not disagreeing with you about the 'limited time' thing.
I was just referring to the use of the word "special". I just think it's a little misleading. Otherwise you could say that our "position" in space is also "special," since it's (one of, maybe the only) region where life as we not know it could have arisen. But I don't think that means it's special; it's just a defining characteristic of it.
Submitted by Doodles (user info) at 2009-04-06 23:32:03 EDT (#)
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you're fucking retarded, do you know that?
you're one of those idiots who tries to be intelligent, yet knows nothing about the subject being discussed, save what he saw on discovery channel.
go back to sucking cock, I hear it was the only thing you were good at.
Submitted by Toddler (user info) at 2009-04-06 23:25:44 EDT (#)
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Fuck this. I'm leaving you all.
Submitted by sandmantate (user info) at 2009-04-06 23:08:27 EDT (#)
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But crapweed, there is also a finite amount of time that the conditions can exist. See, when fusion uses all the hydrogen available, then fusion switches to helium, but helium doesn't burn as hot or efficient, so you get giant stars that burn out fast, and burn cold. Helium fusion only lasts for a few hundred million years, which sounds like a lot, but it took billions of years for macrobiotic life to exist on Earth. Fusion can be sustained all the way through iron, so there will be stars that are burning iron, but those stars are going to be small, smaller than Earth, and their heat will only be in the few thousand degree kelvin range; so a planet would have to be so close to it's parent star to recieve the same amount of heat and energy that earth recieves from the sun, that the planet would nearly be scraping the surface of the star, making life impossible still. Life could still exist in a universe like this, but it would be life that had already evolved into existence, there would be no new living planets.
I'm not just referring to the Heat Death scenario; which is a possible end of the universe scenario in a trillion trillion years. I'm saying that the fundamental building blocks of life as we know it have an expiration date according to our understanding of the universe.
Submitted by CrapWeed (user info) at 2009-04-06 22:52:38 EDT (#)
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I don't know if that makes that time "special"... just that it's the first period in which significant complexity could arise.
Interesting topic though.
Submitted by sandmantate (user info) at 2009-04-06 20:22:53 EDT (#)
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The larger thought experiment actually addresses that timeline, FG.
Even though our position in space isn't special, our moment in time might be. Life as we know it, arguably, couldn't exist before now because the basic building blocks literally didn't exist. The heavier elements, carbon included, are made in the heat and pressure of supernovas. So, the materials that make up Earth and life itself didn't exist in the universe before a couple of generations of stars went S.N. and created them.
Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2009-04-06 20:18:03 EDT (#)
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Submitted by sandmantate (user info) at 2009-04-06 19:14:36 CDT (#)
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Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2009-04-06 20:10:20 EDT (#)
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We're due for another mass extinction anyway. Last biggie was the dinosaurs.
I say the cockroaches and other hideously robust bugs will be the lifeforms that survives the mass extinction. In a few billion years, the new "humans" will have evolved from them.
Ewwwwww
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ACTUALLY, life on Earth only has about another billion years total left. In about that time, the Sun is going to kick off its outer layers and that will quite literally scour off all life.
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Ah yes. There's that.
Submitted by sandmantate (user info) at 2009-04-06 20:14:36 EDT (#)
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Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2009-04-06 20:10:20 EDT (#)
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We're due for another mass extinction anyway. Last biggie was the dinosaurs.
I say the cockroaches and other hideously robust bugs will be the lifeforms that survives the mass extinction. In a few billion years, the new "humans" will have evolved from them.
Ewwwwww
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ACTUALLY, life on Earth only has about another billion years total left. In about that time, the Sun is going to kick off its outer layers and that will quite literally scour off all life.
Submitted by sandmantate (user info) at 2009-04-06 20:12:13 EDT (#)
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Submitted by skrapmetal (user info) at 2009-04-06 20:04:19 EDT (#)
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BTW: Saying one curve "looks like" another when one of them has no scale is mathematically ridiculous.
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True. This would be a joke of a thesis. There is supporting data for the experiment, and I was really only giving the general idea.
Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2009-04-06 20:10:20 EDT (#)
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We're due for another mass extinction anyway. Last biggie was the dinosaurs.
I say the cockroaches and other hideously robust bugs will be the lifeforms that survives the mass extinction. In a few billion years, the new "humans" will have evolved from them.
Ewwwwww
Submitted by sandmantate (user info) at 2009-04-06 20:07:29 EDT (#)
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Nah, you aren't a dick lungy.
Submitted by skrapmetal (user info) at 2009-04-06 20:04:19 EDT (#)
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The population curve is approximately exponential until the resources get low enough that the population level (and certainly any further growth) cannot be supported. The line from The Matrix is true: we behave like a virus. The difference is that when the resources start to run out we kill each other to keep our portion so the population won't go to zero, only level off consistent with the availablility of resources.
Expanding into space will only spread the virus. If you think about it, though, most people aren't capable of climbing on a spacecraft and journeying to another planet. I see a future like Soylent Green existing for quite a while before there are cities on Mars.
BTW: Saying one curve "looks like" another when one of them has no scale is mathematically ridiculous.
Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2009-04-06 20:00:28 EDT (#)
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Submitted by lungfish (user info) at 2009-04-06 18:55:24 CDT (#)
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Stats nerds, unite.
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Maybe I've always been a wee dyslexic, but when I see the word unite, it looks like untie.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2009-04-06 19:59:06 EDT (#)
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Not Shlongy. Your data fucking blows.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2009-04-06 19:55:44 EDT (#)
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No shit.
Submitted by lungfish (user info) at 2009-04-06 19:55:24 EDT (#)
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Stats nerds, unite.
No seriously, let's get together.
[slaps knee]
+1 for not calling me a dickhead, Sandman.
Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2009-04-06 19:44:47 EDT (#)
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Submitted by lungfish (user info) at 2009-04-06 18:10:42 CDT (#)
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Also might want to look into what a bell curve signifies.
FG, help me out. I can't do it now. I got a new puppy.
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So how does this bell curve relate to the graph? A bell curve represents data points around a mean (or average) with he highest point being the mean.
I don't think population trends should be examined using this method of data representation.
Then again, what do I know.
Lung, I've got a new camera that I'm figuring out so I can't devote much time either.
Submitted by RoadSong (user info) at 2009-04-06 19:43:35 EDT (#)
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Interesting.
teeny print=squint
{am blindish}
Submitted by sandmantate (user info) at 2009-04-06 19:16:48 EDT (#)
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Oops, yeah 100 THOUSAND, not 100 million. Also, it isn't my argument. It's not even an argument. It was just a plot device in a sci-fi book that I read once.
Honestly, I think the comparison to the bell curve was just to show that statistical trends tend to all look the same. Including the population trends of a species. Just like 95% of a population is going to be at the big end of the curve in intelligence, 95% of the population is going to literally be at the big end of a population bell curve. After that, it a fast plummet to the bottom.
Submitted by lungfish (user info) at 2009-04-06 19:10:42 EDT (#)
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Also might want to look into what a bell curve signifies.
FG, help me out. I can't do it now. I got a new puppy.
Submitted by lungfish (user info) at 2009-04-06 19:08:42 EDT (#)
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Hominids have been around for 100 million years, huh?
Re-post now. Do it. A picture of a cat will work.