Why weed should remain Illegal (1362 hits)
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Submitted by cocaine (View user info) at 2009-06-24 12:29:14 EDT
Don't let the title fool you...I love weed. I LOVE it! Whether it be smoked via a joint, bong, bowl, blunt, vaporizer, or home-made potato bong (hells yeah!), I am a fan of the green. "Get me an avocado, an ice pick and my snorkel. Trust me, bro, I've made bongs with less. Hurry up!" Yeah, that's me.
I'd say I've been smoking consistently for 10 years now; starting slow at first through the formative years and then rapidly increasing my intake as I started making more money / broke up with my girlfriend / moved to Miami (where weed basically grows on trees). It was just so easy to come home, roll a joint, watch some tube, eat some chorizo, call up some booty call, have her go to town on me, smoke again, and then fall asleep. Life was great.
Until I became an utter burnout. Like a fading star, my steam was deteriorating and my light was growing wearier by the day. My desire to go out into the world and conquer it had halted and I was becoming increasingly irritable. I once caught myself yelling at my mother because she wanted to know why I was still in bed at 1 pm. My reasoning? "SHUT UP, MOM! I DON'T LIVE UNDER YOUR ROOF, I MAKE MY OWN MONEY AND YOU CAN'T TELL ME WHAT TO DO ANYMORE!" I was a complete asshole and my weed intake was at an all time high.
So I stopped. Cold turkey. That was about a year ago. A week after I "quit," my energy was back up, a smile had resurfaced on my face, I started going to the gym, and I no longer needed to rely on old pussy to get some ass. Life, again, was great...until I re-entered the market and started hanging out with my stoner friends again.
*Word of Caution: Stoner friends are awesome to hang with when you want to get stoned....but they won't be there for you if you're in a pinch. Why? Because they're too lazy and stoned to care about anything except for where to get the next bag of cheetos.*
Long story short, I became an asshole again. Quickly. Though the high I got from the weed was as sweet as I had remembered, it was now smattered with guilt and frustration. The guilt became so palpable to the point where each time I sparked up, I would hate myself more and more. But I smoked nonetheless.
Clinical case of addiction. No doubt.
For the subsequent six or so months I continued on the "on-again, off-again" train. Which brings us to the present. I last smoked two weeks ago. I'm back at the gym again and I feel fucking fantastic. My breathing is longer and deeper (after having hacked up a fishbowl's worth of phlegm), my mood is again elevated and I am as cheery as ever.
My conclusion? Weed is bad. I love it, but if I continue on this path, it will be my downfall.
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Submitted by TigerLilly (user info) at 2009-07-08 12:29:12 EDT (#)
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I would also like to add that since I've become a semi pot smoker I've taken an active interest in it's color, texture, taste and smell. Based on said characteristics I am thus able to determine how productive I will be while stoned. My house will be spotless after smoking Purple Haze.
Submitted by TigerLilly (user info) at 2009-07-08 12:09:39 EDT (#)
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I've become quite the fan of the cannabis. I'm not an everyday-er but once maybe twice a week i quite enjoy getting high since I rarely ever drink anymore.
PS, old pussy as in senior citizen or usued up pussy as in whore?
Submitted by strwbryfanatic (user info) at 2009-06-27 18:19:38 EDT (#)
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Let's sum everything up here:
-"I smoked tons of weed and it shouldn't be legalized because it makes me lazy."
-"I stopped smoking, too, and I am suddenly not lazy."
-"You're a fag."
-"Am not."
-"That's not what your boyfriend said, you pussy."
-"Weed should be legalized."
-"No, it shouldn't."
-"Yes... Well, on second thought... maybe it shouldn't so we don't have to pay taxes on it."
-"Weed is not worse than alcohol or fast food."
-"Uh huh."
-"You just can't control yourself. You're not addicted to it."
-"I think I am."
-"The author's name is Cocaine, so we shouldn't listen to him."
-"Smoking weed is so immature. Grow up."
-"No, I am productive and mature. And useful. I can categorize all the names of the weed I've smoked - by grade and alphabetically."
(all the stoners leave their computers to find Fritos)
(everyone else shuts the hell up)
Did I miss anything?
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2009-06-26 10:07:35 EDT (#)
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Submitted by catscradle (user info) at 2009-06-25 22:07:22 EDT (#)
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Oh, how Ubersite has fallen from its former heights.
THIS is how a post like this was treated back in the DAY
http://www.ubersite.com/m/3419
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no one cares
Submitted by RoadSong (user info) at 2009-06-25 22:40:39 EDT (#)
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Submitted by catscradle (user info) at 2009-06-25 19:07:22 PDT (#)
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Oh, how Ubersite has fallen from its former heights.
THIS is how a post like this was treated back in the DAY
http://www.ubersite.com/m/3419
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You registered in 2002!!!
Thats uh....wellll, a long time ago. If I had not of toked dr Ganja I would know how long ago it really was.
OK
Got it!
7 years.
I'm a gonna peer at your very first post right NOW.
Submitted by catscradle (user info) at 2009-06-25 22:07:22 EDT (#)
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Oh, how Ubersite has fallen from its former heights.
THIS is how a post like this was treated back in the DAY
http://www.ubersite.com/m/3419
Submitted by BadCompany (user info) at 2009-06-25 15:22:27 EDT (#)
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BAD! Bad post. The problems you were experiencing were not marijuana side-effects rather, lack of exercise. Do what I do. Reward your exercise with weed. I go for a 3 mile run and then treat myself to a blunt as I cool-down and watch a movie. I go to the gym and do some lifting, come back and then toke. It is all about how you allocate your time. Weed makes things better, but like anything it can be abused and used incorrectly. If it were legal, there would be no more paranoia.
Submitted by haikumikoo (user info) at 2009-06-25 13:00:28 EDT (#)
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You ever suck a dick for weed?
Negative rating, more for the fact that this post was boring than the actual sentiment behind said post.
Submitted by SkullBiter (user info) at 2009-06-25 12:41:00 EDT (#)
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OMG
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2009-06-25 11:58:49 EDT (#)
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the "worse" hallucinations i ever had was seeing faces coming at me exactly like a cartoon of my childhood http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zEp7QopOZ30&feature=related (9:25)
Submitted by cocaine (user info) at 2009-06-25 11:42:33 EDT (#)
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shrooms are the bees knees. though i've only done them once, it was a bunch of fun. i remember seeing martin van buren in a cloud.
Submitted by monkeyswithguns (user info) at 2009-06-25 11:34:33 EDT (#)
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Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2009-06-25 10:33:13 EDT (#)
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I'm too scared of hallucinogens to ever try them. With the way my mind works, I'm guaranteed a bad trip.
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They're definately not for the feint of heart or those with a bad mindset. After my last dosage in early May, I won't be taking them any longer, although I still enjoy watching friends enjoy them.
Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2009-06-25 10:46:06 EDT (#)
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hahaha menstruating women.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2009-06-25 10:45:54 EDT (#)
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that look is called pupillary dilatation, fg :-)
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2009-06-25 10:44:34 EDT (#)
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though i know some people, like my gf, who are delirious on shrooms. it's a food poisoining after all, so some get worse effects than others.
as for acid, most bad trips are people who stare at themselves in a mirror or people who panick a bit because their mind is racing and they feel out of control.
but i've never seen anyone spasming on the ground, screaming in terror. that only happens to menstruating women.
Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2009-06-25 10:40:54 EDT (#)
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Yeah but...oh, I don't know. I remember seeing someone on a trip. They had a weird look in their eyes. I mean, really weird. It was enough to put me off wanting to try it.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2009-06-25 10:38:54 EDT (#)
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Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2009-06-25 10:33:13 EDT (#)
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I'm too scared of hallucinogens to ever try them. With the way my mind works, I'm guaranteed a bad trip.
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you keep saying that. it's not the first time i hear someone say "i'm so crazy and intersting, i don't need drugs" when they are scared to try something.
fact is, you don't know. the most sane people i know panicked on acid and the ones you'd worry about them having a bad trip, were jolly and having fun.
with hallucinogens, 95% of the trip depends on where you are and who you are with.
and bad trips are not like in movies. most hallucinations are existing things changing shape a bit or enhanced colors, it's not like you're entering a fucking living nightmare of monsters and creatures.
Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2009-06-25 10:33:13 EDT (#)
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Weed always made me feel old, tired, hungry, and paranoid. This was even before I actually became old, tired, hungry, and paranoid.
I'm too scared of hallucinogens to ever try them. With the way my mind works, I'm guaranteed a bad trip.
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2009-06-25 10:27:13 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2009-06-25 15:18:56 BST (#)
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Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2009-06-25 10:11:41 EDT (#)
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You didnt get weed hangovers?? the muzzy, heavy headed, lack of sleep feeling? hmm maybe you were too young.
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even today in the rare occurences i smoke weed, i don't get hangovers.
all it does to me is making me sit there, depressed and emo, hating my life.
i can honestly say that i find it easier to go through a shroom or extacy trip than a weed one. last time i smoked a joint on my own, i ended up snorting water in a sink to make it go away. it works :-)
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Weed does make you think about everything and anything in the world. The paranoia thing obviously got to you. Weed effects depend entirely on the individual.
It makes me draw brilliant MS PAINT creations!
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2009-06-25 10:18:56 EDT (#)
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Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2009-06-25 10:11:41 EDT (#)
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You didnt get weed hangovers?? the muzzy, heavy headed, lack of sleep feeling? hmm maybe you were too young.
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even today in the rare occurences i smoke weed, i don't get hangovers.
all it does to me is making me sit there, depressed and emo, hating my life.
i can honestly say that i find it easier to go through a shroom or extacy trip than a weed one. last time i smoked a joint on my own, i ended up snorting water in a sink to make it go away. it works :-)
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2009-06-25 10:11:41 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2009-06-25 15:07:10 BST (#)
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I don't think weed is that much of a light drug anymore. It is way stronger than it used to be.
Personally, I can't handle weed. I smoked enough of it to know it was ruining my life.
The problem I have with weed is the lack of hangovers. If you drink a bit too much during a week night, you'll wake up feeling like crap with a headache and will probably refrain from drinking the next day I know there are alcoholics, but most people are this way.
But you can smoke weed all fucking day long, including in the morning and never feel that bad. And problem is, most people who smoke weed are teenagers (unlike alcohol which has some control over who consumes it). It's hard to be moderate when you're 15 years old and feeling perfectly fine while you're smoking your life away, doing fuck all and playing video games.
I kinda regret smoking weed when I was a kid. I stopped doing sports, became paranoid and replaced my good friends for stoners. I missed out on a lot of great things during the best years of one's life.
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You didnt get weed hangovers?? the muzzy, heavy headed, lack of sleep feeling? hmm maybe you were too young.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2009-06-25 10:07:58 EDT (#)
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+2 cocaine
though cocaine hangovers are fucking depressing. i don't get how someone could do blow more than once a week, or even a month.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2009-06-25 10:07:10 EDT (#)
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I don't think weed is that much of a light drug anymore. It is way stronger than it used to be.
Personally, I can't handle weed. I smoked enough of it to know it was ruining my life.
The problem I have with weed is the lack of hangovers. If you drink a bit too much during a week night, you'll wake up feeling like crap with a headache and will probably refrain from drinking the next day I know there are alcoholics, but most people are this way.
But you can smoke weed all fucking day long, including in the morning and never feel that bad. And problem is, most people who smoke weed are teenagers (unlike alcohol which has some control over who consumes it). It's hard to be moderate when you're 15 years old and feeling perfectly fine while you're smoking your life away, doing fuck all and playing video games.
I kinda regret smoking weed when I was a kid. I stopped doing sports, became paranoid and replaced my good friends for stoners. I missed out on a lot of great things during the best years of one's life.
Submitted by Doodles (user info) at 2009-06-25 10:01:12 EDT (#)
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bubba's a fucking retard.
That is all.
Submitted by locksly (user info) at 2009-06-25 05:35:12 EDT (#)
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Fuck most of the people who responded to this post, 80% of people who smoke would fit into the category you are talking about mr cocaine, except for the booty calls because that just didn't happen.
Either way, if they do leaglize it maybe they need to cut down THC to under 10% collect some mad tax dollars for mental health and increase penalties for home grown.
That will draw some arguments but thats the only way it could work
Submitted by sexualchocolate1984 (user info) at 2009-06-25 05:31:46 EDT (#)
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I love weed, and i love Half Baked - one of my favourite films!
I've smoked for about 10 years, every single day, wake, bake, go to work. Lunchtime, on the way home, all evening, sleep, rinse, repeat. I loved it.
but i recently discovered that my Mrs is pregnant, so the weed money now needs to be baby money.
A responsibility like a baby is just the kind of kick up the arse you need to kick the weed, but miss it so...
Submitted by CarterPFly (user info) at 2009-06-25 05:23:59 EDT (#)
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I was a full on stoner from 16 to 26 so having been there and done that I share your opinions completly.
Its a major demotivator but a fucking awesome way to pass time. I love weed but when you get to a point in life where you need to start giving a shit about stuff you gotta let it go and move on.
Submitted by QueenAshlee (user info) at 2009-06-25 03:41:59 EDT (#)
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"let's take the "all in moderation" approach to this: you have a glass or two of wine and you're still jovial and can wake up the next morning feeling super duper. you have half a joint of semi-decent ganj and though you are undoubtedly jovial, you can kiss the next 3 hours of your life goodbye in terms of productivity and progress."
Maybe for YOU. I can smoke pot all day and still conquer the fucking world. Or at least go to work and handle my shit...
Also, where the hell do you get good weed in Miami? The best thing I ever saw in FL was hella expensive and lost almost half its weight after I dried it out enough to even be able to smoke it. Everything else was shitty Mexican brickweed or $70/eigth beesters (which sadly people think is good bud). Now I'm back in NY, where beesters costs $10/gram like it should, and hanging out with my cannabis cup winning hippie grower buddy, getting dankity dank Afghani and Cornell<enter string of numbers I don't rembeber> and something called GAK for a very reasonable $250/oz. I HATED going back to smoking in FL after living in NY.
Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2009-06-24 19:36:21 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Sacrilicious (user info) at 2009-06-24 19:14:39 EDT (#)
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Submitted by cocaine (user info) at 2009-06-24 13:01:07 EDT (#)
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i wasn't arguing against alcohol, ms. bellare.
let's take the "all in moderation" approach to this: you have a glass or two of wine and you're still jovial and can wake up the next morning feeling super duper. you have half a joint of semi-decent ganj and though you are undoubtedly jovial, you can kiss the next 3 hours of your life goodbye in terms of productivity and progress.
With very moderate levels of alcohol, you can still be a functioning member of society. With very moderate levels of the green, though may still be able to function in a professional capacity, you will be dumber as a result.
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If your title is tongue in cheek, fine. But if it isn't- I don't even know where to start on how just because you may have self control issues with marijuana or it affects you a certain way, it shouldn't have any bearing on any one else's rights. Would the same argument hold up if say, I wanted the right to bear arms revoked because some people like to shoot other people for no reason? Or that alcohol should be banned because my family was almost killed by a drunk driver? And how exactly do you define being a 'functioning member of society?" Have you ever gone to work high? Have you ever gone to work drunk? Can you honestly say the latter resulted in your being better 'functioning?'the above statement is you speaking from personal experience, and it damn sure does not match my experiences. And since when did being dumb and being a functioning member of society become mutually exclusive? I'd appreciate it if you'd point me toward your evidence that weed has more of an adverse affect on brain cells than alcohol. If I sound at all confrontational here, I don't mean to..I just disagree with your reasoning in a big way.
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As always, Saccy is the voice of reason. She goes to great lengths not to piss off the poster, which says loads about her.
I, on the other hand, would tell said poster to get a fucking grip. Your problems have NO bearing on legal issues.
Also, pot does NOT wipe out brain cells on the same level as alcohol. Look up the proof on reputable sites and sources. As Sac said, if it was tongue-in-cheek, I will back off. Otherwise, you are full of shit.
Submitted by Sacrilicious (user info) at 2009-06-24 19:14:39 EDT (#)
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Submitted by cocaine (user info) at 2009-06-24 13:01:07 EDT (#)
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i wasn't arguing against alcohol, ms. bellare.
let's take the "all in moderation" approach to this: you have a glass or two of wine and you're still jovial and can wake up the next morning feeling super duper. you have half a joint of semi-decent ganj and though you are undoubtedly jovial, you can kiss the next 3 hours of your life goodbye in terms of productivity and progress.
With very moderate levels of alcohol, you can still be a functioning member of society. With very moderate levels of the green, though may still be able to function in a professional capacity, you will be dumber as a result.
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If your title is tongue in cheek, fine. But if it isn't- I don't even know where to start on how just because you may have self control issues with marijuana or it affects you a certain way, it shouldn't have any bearing on any one else's rights. Would the same argument hold up if say, I wanted the right to bear arms revoked because some people like to shoot other people for no reason? Or that alcohol should be banned because my family was almost killed by a drunk driver? And how exactly do you define being a 'functioning member of society?" Have you ever gone to work high? Have you ever gone to work drunk? Can you honestly say the latter resulted in your being better 'functioning?'the above statement is you speaking from personal experience, and it damn sure does not match my experiences. And since when did being dumb and being a functioning member of society become mutually exclusive? I'd appreciate it if you'd point me toward your evidence that weed has more of an adverse affect on brain cells than alcohol. If I sound at all confrontational here, I don't mean to..I just disagree with your reasoning in a big way.
Submitted by inion_de_trua (user info) at 2009-06-24 18:24:07 EDT (#)
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so, because you fail to control yourself with something that's actually pretty harmless, everyone else should be nannied? yeah that's some good logic dude. i hope i see the vote on this in my lifetime.
Submitted by skrapmetal (user info) at 2009-06-24 18:21:39 EDT (#)
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I suspect there'd be more money to be made by the government from taxing legal weed than from auctioning off the rusty 1991 Camaros of the people they bust buying/dealing it. Problem is the proven long-term effects to lungs and brain, not to mention that it might just lead to an obesity problem in America's youth. No, weight... (http://www.instantrimshot.com oh, I slay me). Ah, but seriously, folks: what would the effect of leagal weed on the healh care system be? Cardiopulmonary disease from tobacco and excfess weight are America's two biggest health problems. Ready access to a drug that's smoked and has as effects physical laxity and increased hunger will make those two national health problems considerably worse.
Submitted by DaBeast (user info) at 2009-06-24 18:00:00 EDT (#)
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You aren't allowed to post anything advocating established legislation for the consumption of illegal substances when you're using the sobriquet "Cocaine".
Now go take your prozac enema and calm the hell down.
Submitted by Merlina (user info) at 2009-06-24 17:03:27 EDT (#)
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I can't smoke weed because I freelance in the rail industry and they do random drug and alcohol tests all the time.
The penalty?
Never working in the rail industry again.
No damn choice.
When I retire I'll be the biggest stoner EVAR.
Submitted by EmissionImpossible (user info) at 2009-06-24 16:43:56 EDT (#)
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Submitted by monkeyswithguns (user info) at 2009-06-24 19:37:26 BST (#)
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This is a compelling argument, and I agree, pot does cause massive amounts of lethargy.
That being said, I also know several highly motivated people who smoke daily, with only minor side-effects.
I think it boils down to the person, just like any other psycho-active substance, it will affect different people with different body chemical compositions in different ways.
My wife for example, doesn't and can't smoke weed, at all. It makes her sick usually, and doesn't do good things for her head. For me, I've literally attempted to commit suicide by marijuana before, but only ended up puking after 7 consecutive full bong rips with no waiting period between, then promptly fell asleep.
As for addiction, you are correct, it is quite mentally addictive, and to a slight degree, physical as well, in that it produces rebound affects when quitting such as insomnia, lack of appetite, nausea, irratibility, etc.
As for legality, I could really care less, however history has shown time and again, that where there is a demand, there will ALWAYS be a market with suppliers and buyers, which would lead me to side with legalization, purely to prevent the vast waste of money (OUR $$$) that criminilization has led to and also to prevent the judicial system from disrupting otherwise peaceful lives.
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monkeys do talk sense!
Submitted by X54 (user info) at 2009-06-24 16:26:28 EDT (#)
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There are few things in this world that won't harm you if done to excess. And there are few things that will harm you provided they're done in moderation. You're lucky it only took you ten years to figure that out, Einstein.
Submitted by RationalRampage (user info) at 2009-06-24 16:19:14 EDT (#)
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Please just hang yourself already
Submitted by RoadSong (user info) at 2009-06-24 15:44:08 EDT (#)
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LEGALIZE it. Why the hell not?
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2009-06-24 15:36:15 EDT (#)
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bah.
Weed should be legal. The fact it's not is stupid... but we are a society plum full of stupid people so is it really all that surprising?
Glad you have achieved some measure of self control... that is a struggle you would have had regardless of its legality, though.
Submitted by Yozz (user info) at 2009-06-24 15:35:58 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Liquidice281 (user info) at 2009-06-24 14:32:31 EDT (#)
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"" I'd say I've been smoking consistently for 10 years now; ""
You're a pussy and a fag. I've been smoking consistently for 6 years now; 95% of that is via vaporizer. I can run two miles in under 12 mins, have less than 10% body fat, and get fresh pussy all the time. Just because you're a pussy and a fag doesn't mean I should be penalized. Me and my girl get stoned all the time, and we're 100% in shape and healthy. The only bad thing about weed is the munchies it gives people but if you learn to channel the munchies, you won't have to worry about it anyways.
So your argument that it should remain 'illegal' because its unhealthy; booze, cigs, fast food, soda machines, candy, fried foods -- all legal and contribute to MILLIONS of deaths per year and has contributed to killing some family members of mine, but I've yet to have someone close to me die from weed.
So grow the fuck up, get a vaporizer, workout, eat healthy -- stuff you should do WITH OR WITHOUT WEED -- and you're quality of life will ALWAYS be better. Don't blame the weed because you started working out and feel better...... pussy. Oh, and fag too....... .. more fags below.....and pussies probably too.....
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Submitted by RoadSong (user info) at 2009-06-24 15:32:46 EDT (#)
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"..home-made potato bong (hells yeah!).."
I thought I had heard everything till I saw this!
Want to kiss motivation good bye? Smoke a lot of weed.
Good luck at the gym. GO YOU!
Submitted by JoeyG (user info) at 2009-06-24 15:27:30 EDT (#)
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As an ex-weed smoker, I see both sides to the argument over legality. Yes, it has it's place as a recreational substance, and I think that the associated dangers are far less life affecting than those related to alcohol and heroin. And yeah, I do think that booze and brown should be lumped in the same category, they are just as addictive and powerful as each other.
On the other hand, if marijuana was made legal, nobody would get anything done. Although investments in cookies would sky-rocket.
Submitted by Liquidice281 (user info) at 2009-06-24 15:11:03 EDT (#)
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Ya know what -- it should remain illegal. Because if it is legal, then the US will tax the shit out of it like cigs and booze and suddenly swag is costing $50-$75 more per oz because Uncle Sam needs his cut.
Submitted by Doodles (user info) at 2009-06-24 14:42:42 EDT (#)
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Submitted by monkeyswithguns (user info) at 2009-06-24 14:37:26 EDT (#)
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This is a compelling argument, and I agree, pot does cause massive amounts of lethargy.
That being said, I also know several highly motivated people who smoke daily, with only minor side-effects.
I think it boils down to the person, just like any other psycho-active substance, it will affect different people with different body chemical compositions in different ways.
My wife for example, doesn't and can't smoke weed, at all. It makes her sick usually, and doesn't do good things for her head. For me, I've literally attempted to commit suicide by marijuana before, but only ended up puking after 7 consecutive full bong rips with no waiting period between, then promptly fell asleep.
As for addiction, you are correct, it is quite mentally addictive, and to a slight degree, physical as well, in that it produces rebound affects when quitting such as insomnia, lack of appetite, nausea, irratibility, etc.
As for legality, I could really care less, however history has shown time and again, that where there is a demand, there will ALWAYS be a market with suppliers and buyers, which would lead me to side with legalization, purely to prevent the vast waste of money (OUR $$$) that criminilization has led to and also to prevent the judicial system from disrupting otherwise peaceful lives.
Submitted by Liquidice281 (user info) at 2009-06-24 14:32:31 EDT (#)
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"" I'd say I've been smoking consistently for 10 years now; ""
You're a pussy and a fag. I've been smoking consistently for 6 years now; 95% of that is via vaporizer. I can run two miles in under 12 mins, have less than 10% body fat, and get fresh pussy all the time. Just because you're a pussy and a fag doesn't mean I should be penalized. Me and my girl get stoned all the time, and we're 100% in shape and healthy. The only bad thing about weed is the munchies it gives people but if you learn to channel the munchies, you won't have to worry about it anyways.
So your argument that it should remain 'illegal' because its unhealthy; booze, cigs, fast food, soda machines, candy, fried foods -- all legal and contribute to MILLIONS of deaths per year and has contributed to killing some family members of mine, but I've yet to have someone close to me die from weed.
So grow the fuck up, get a vaporizer, workout, eat healthy -- stuff you should do WITH OR WITHOUT WEED -- and you're quality of life will ALWAYS be better. Don't blame the weed because you started working out and feel better...... pussy. Oh, and fag too....... .. more fags below.....and pussies probably too.....
Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2009-06-24 14:26:03 EDT (#)
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what everyone else said
Submitted by SmalltownSally (user info) at 2009-06-24 14:17:50 EDT (#)
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You're so gay you sneeze glitter.
Submitted by sir_cowman (user info) at 2009-06-24 14:02:53 EDT (#)
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so because you're so gay that you can't handle the lightest drug on the planet means that the rest of us can't enjoy it?
FUCK YO SHIT IN YO GAY ASS ASS HOLE!
seriously, though
you're gay for everything. homo.
Submitted by AsshOly (user info) at 2009-06-24 14:01:12 EDT (#)
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weed is only good to me if i smoke more than once in a while, which i generally dont do. the week i spent in cancun and the week i spent in vegas were both weeks spent high, though, and i was fine.
Submitted by Unabonger (user info) at 2009-06-24 14:01:03 EDT (#)
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why *I* think weed should stay illegal:
It's easy to get, potent, cheap, and you really have to be a dumb motherfucker to get thrown in jail for possession. Why fuck with a good thing?
oh and I know stoners who are lawyers and doctors and scientists so just because you can't achieve anything when you're high doesn't mean the rest of the world is as lazy.
but what do I know? Have a +2.
Submitted by sage104 (user info) at 2009-06-24 13:57:02 EDT (#)
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Pandora: I highly, highly doubt that an employer would do a hair follicle test unless they had reasonable cause. I'm not particularly concerned. At most, they'll do a urine sample and I am taking loads of supplements, exercising and drinking large quantities of water; in addition I am planning on going to the head shop in my area to buy one of those drink things that pretty much guarantee you'll pass a drug test.
Submitted by pandora (user info) at 2009-06-24 13:51:09 EDT (#)
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Also, Sage, pot can be detectable in your system for months. If they do a hair test, they can detect usage from years ago (unless you cut your hair short). Your friends might suggest some good flushing techniques, but some employers will consider a urine test "invalid" if the urine is too watered down.
Submitted by pandora (user info) at 2009-06-24 13:45:19 EDT (#)
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So you can't control yourself, and that's why it should remain illegal? I'm not sure I follow your logic. I used to smoke it every day and have problems because of that, but now I control my intake (of both drugs and booze)with an iron fist. Why? Because I have to, to get shit done. And if I couldn't control it, I'd never say "It shouldn't be legal" and ruin it for everyone else because I was a weak pussy.
In addition, I'm tired of the stereotype of the stupid, useless stoner. Yes, there are a lot of people who fit this stereotype, mainly because they weren't too bright to begin with and couldn't spare the brain cells they killed when they decided to smoke pot every day. However, I know some people who've been smoking pot (some daily) since the '60's, and they are as sharp as a tack and you can rely on them for anything.
Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2009-06-24 13:36:22 EDT (#)
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Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2009-06-24 13:13:00 EDT (#)
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Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2009-06-24 13:05:33 EDT (#)
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weed is the only drug on this planet that I have NO tolerance for, even a little bit fucks me up and makes me unable to function outside of being a babbling potato chip feind.
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So, you're not normally a babbling potato chip fiend?
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Touche' Blitz, touche'
Submitted by Ballare (user info) at 2009-06-24 13:18:30 EDT (#)
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but, hey, you stopped smoking pot and as a result you feel better about yourself and your physical well-being, so, congratulations
Submitted by Ballare (user info) at 2009-06-24 13:13:39 EDT (#)
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I'm not a smoker, but I spent a year and a half working in a hemp shop. my clientele that weren't fourteen year old boys in on a dare and eighteen year olds who hadn't worked it out of their systems yet composed of: people who used it for (genuinely) medicinal reasons and what appeared to be (genuinely) successful, contributing, working, intelligent members of society
now, the impression I got was that these folks had a puff or two after work to hasten the winding down process or maybe heavily on those 'chill out' days. man, I don't know, but they seemed plenty motivated to me.
"dumber as a result"? now that I simply do not believe. cite your sources, sir, and review some facts about marijuana which are not based on conjecture or personal experience: http://www.drugpolicy.org/marijuana/factsmyths/
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2009-06-24 13:13:00 EDT (#)
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Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2009-06-24 13:05:33 EDT (#)
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weed is the only drug on this planet that I have NO tolerance for, even a little bit fucks me up and makes me unable to function outside of being a babbling potato chip feind.
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So, you're not normally a babbling potato chip fiend?
Submitted by HellRazer (user info) at 2009-06-24 13:09:53 EDT (#)
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Well informed and reasonable. But I feel that the choice to get or not get high should be left in the hands of the individual. Weed can make some peoples life better, with responsible use. I don't think we should hand it out like candy, but if I want to destroy myself it should be MY decision and not an elected officials.
Submitted by SullyThePirate (user info) at 2009-06-24 13:07:56 EDT (#)
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Weed is alright but it just makes me extremely lazy (at least more than usual). I feel like absolute shit and I have no desire to exercise or eat healthy when I'm on a weed binge. Smoking occasionally is fine. I'm definitely not one of those idiot kids on those commercials who turns down a joint at some party. Those kids are such fucking pussies.
Don't understand why people would want to smoke every single day, though. Your life passes you by in a haze and you build up an immunity to it and you just feel tired and hungry when you smoke with only slight traces of euphoria. At least that's been my experience.
Submitted by SgtHartman (user info) at 2009-06-24 13:05:33 EDT (#)
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weed is the only drug on this planet that I have NO tolerance for, even a little bit fucks me up and makes me unable to function outside of being a babbling potato chip feind.
not for me thank you very much, now if you've got some percoset...
Submitted by cocaine (user info) at 2009-06-24 13:01:07 EDT (#)
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i wasn't arguing against alcohol, ms. bellare.
let's take the "all in moderation" approach to this: you have a glass or two of wine and you're still jovial and can wake up the next morning feeling super duper. you have half a joint of semi-decent ganj and though you are undoubtedly jovial, you can kiss the next 3 hours of your life goodbye in terms of productivity and progress.
With very moderate levels of alcohol, you can still be a functioning member of society. With very moderate levels of the green, though may still be able to function in a professional capacity, you will be dumber as a result.
Submitted by Ballare (user info) at 2009-06-24 12:56:12 EDT (#)
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oh, mr. cocaine, and alcohol is such a less devastating drug?
Submitted by sage104 (user info) at 2009-06-24 12:49:59 EDT (#)
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I linked wrong, not like anyone cares, but what the fuck ever. http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Goodbye-Jane-lyrics-Krayzie-Bone/D2D902B6F52E7BDF482575B6000D8E08
Submitted by cocaine (user info) at 2009-06-24 12:46:42 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Chroniclysm (user info) at 2009-06-24 12:40:01 EDT (#)
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I can't imagine what the hell kind of relevance this has on the question of legality.
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People argue all the time as to why weed should be legalized...saying that it's naturally grown, can ease glaucoma (haha!), it's not addictive, blah blah blah. It's all justification for stoner's to get weed easier than have to wait 2 hours for their shady delivery man to get there...or worse, to go into the hood and pick it up from some vato named cheech how is one bad sale away from killing you.
Yeah.
But I'm with government on this one, I guess. It depletes your drive and, given enough bong hits, it will undoubtedly turn an otherwise pleasant person into a lazy douche. As evidenced by me and many other people I know.
Submitted by sage104 (user info) at 2009-06-24 12:41:55 EDT (#)
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I'm not smoking weed anymore because I'm looking for another job (fuck this economy) and the companies I've applied for do pre-employment drug screenings (bastards).
I never found that weed impaired my "go-getter" status but I did experience weed hangovers where I was foggy for a few hours the next morning. I'd rather experience weed hangovers though than alcohol hangovers where I'm nauseous, dizzy and puking my guts out.
I think they should legalize weed. But I am feeling pretty fresh since I've stopped smoking and started running 2 miles/2-3x week and going to the gym the other 2-3 days a week (leaving Saturdays/Sundays for rest).
Different strokes for different strokes. Glad you're happy to be back on the wagon. :)
In other news, Krayzie Bone allegedly quit smoking...at least it would seem that way from this song's lyrics: http://www.sing365.com/music/lyric.nsf/Mary-Mary-lyrics-Krayzie-Bone/E4A44ECFCAE74280482574420029DD95
Submitted by Yozz (user info) at 2009-06-24 12:40:45 EDT (#)
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Gee, I'm shocked you had a problem with it. You seem like such a well-adjusted person.
\sarcasm
Submitted by Chroniclysm (user info) at 2009-06-24 12:40:01 EDT (#)
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I can't imagine what the hell kind of relevance this has on the question of legality.
Good on you, though, for doing what makes you happy.
Submitted by FATMANTPK (user info) at 2009-06-24 12:34:14 EDT (#)
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Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2009-06-24 12:32:18 EDT (#)
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