rugby union reform (471 hits)
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Submitted by shandythetopdog (View user info) at 2009-09-20 07:07:39 EDT
for once, iddqd is right about something. or partly right, anyway.
his rejection of my rugby league reforms are just blind stupidity, but he is right that rugby union is in far greater need of help. it IS excruciating watching a game of rugby union these days.
there are various worthwhile ideas floating around about rule changes, reducing kicking, reducing penalties, etc, but there is one measure that i haven't heard discussed that is very simple and would result in an instant improvment: GET ON WITH THE FUCKING GAME.
almost every time a passage of play ends and a lineout or scrum is required the players flop onto the ground for a rest and trainers come trotting out with water bottles etc. the duration of these rest periods often seems to coincide exactly with the ad breaks - to the point that i seriously wonder if there is some communication from the broadcaster to the officials letting them know that the ads are over and they can start playing again.
this in itself is obviously very annoying.
but the most serious consequence is that the players are getting too much rest, and defences are getting too much time to regroup.
if players actually had to play without these endless rests they would get more tired. tiredness leads to more defensive lapses, which leads to more line breaks and more tries.
rugby league players don't flop onto the ground for a few minutes every time there is a scrum. evertying is done as quickly as possible. if someone is injured in a way that doesn't look fatal, play continues around them. league commentators become engraged by any sort of delay.
try and imagine a game of rubgy where all these unnoffical rest periods were removed. where lineouts and scrums occured immediately. relentlessly. throughout the entire game.
there would still be problems with too many penalities etc, but i have no doubt it would make a huge fucking difference.
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Submitted by Quint (user info) at 2009-09-22 12:57:43 EDT (#)
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What the fuck is rugby?
Submitted by Replen (user info) at 2009-09-21 14:50:41 EDT (#)
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Rugby league is for northern monkeys.
Union fucking rules, as do the Saints.
Submitted by scourge (user info) at 2009-09-21 13:52:01 EDT (#)
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yeah, that call in the bottom of the 9th against holliday was fucking bullshit. that dicklipped rookie the scrubs were fielding did the same fucking thing in the 6th, and they scored the run because they double play wasn't completed. if he'd made the same call in that instance, there wouldn't have even BEEN a bottom of the ninth.
leaving the fucking basepaths? has that EVER been called before? you try to break up the doubleplay. EVERY. FUCKING. TIME. pete rose would be rolling in his grave if he was dead.
losing games to a team that played better: great and good and well and the whole point of sport.
losing games to bullshit officiating: makes me want to stab something.
also, joe morgan needs to suck a fat dick and quit saying 'vurruh'... that word is spelled like this: v.e.r.y.
how does that combination of letters make 'vurruh'? it doesn't, joe morgan, it doesn't.
i hate you joe morgan.
Submitted by skrapmetal (user info) at 2009-09-21 12:29:26 EDT (#)
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Submitted by hairycoo (user info) at 2009-09-21 07:24:11 EDT (#)
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a game where the winner is the best behaved is just friggin stupid
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Hugby?
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2009-09-21 10:31:53 EDT (#)
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considering you only get 5 for a try and the conversion is by no means a formality in Rugby 3 points for a penno does seem too much.
I think 3 points for a drop goal should remain though.
Submitted by i_can_get_you_a_toe (user info) at 2009-09-21 10:10:45 EDT (#)
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I watched our boys give the aussies a good old fist up the ass caneing on saturday - and it still was the most boring game to watch, even though I was drinking vodka. Rugby is boring and Dan Carter needs to get over himself and start kicking like he deserves to be in the All Blacks.
I prefer league.
Submitted by hairycoo (user info) at 2009-09-21 07:24:11 EDT (#)
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dont know much about rugbt but i reckon that 3 points is too many to get for a drop goal or penalty. a game where the winner is the best behaved is just friggin stupid
Submitted by iddqd (user info) at 2009-09-20 23:58:27 EDT (#)
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they drop in a few ads in larger breaks, like just after a try/before a penalty kick. its actually fairly unobtrusive, and not scheduled like in NFL.
jeez we were ordinary this tri-nations. though, not far off. we should punish everyone on upcoming northern tour, and in a couple years with the next world cup, i think theres a decent young core that will be seasoned.
our outside backs are a worry though.
despite the drubbing we copped on saturday night at the hands of the all blecks, they really are on a downswing, i reckon theyll be lucky to make the semis next WC.
Submitted by iddqd (user info) at 2009-09-20 23:52:44 EDT (#)
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league is fine. as fine as its going to get.
the speed of play with rugby is also fine - except for one thing, which is its core problem: too many penalties. fix that, and you'll fix your perceived issue. thats another thing the ELVs added to the game, greater fatigue on the forwards, but creating less stoppages. clearly your understanding of both games is sadly lacking.
Submitted by shandythedog (user info) at 2009-09-20 19:44:06 EDT (#)
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apollo you great oaf, must i spell it all out again???
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2009-09-20 11:20:48 EDT (#)
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preset times*
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2009-09-20 11:20:06 EDT (#)
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i dunno
one of the things that I like about Union is the fact that the game doesn't stop for injuries like in football.
Obviously the ball moves around the pitch in football a lot more so the guy is more likely to be in the way but still, get the game going.
Are you saying that in Aus they have adverts IN THE MIDDLE OF THE FUCKING GAME? I.e. not just at half time?
That's crap and very american.
The TV people are likely to cut to ads in the stoppage though right? Not when some cunt is bearing down for a try? That is just common sense.
Sure they made ask for more stoppages but they won't have present times to cut to ads.
The number one way to improve Rugby Union in my opinion is to ban SA and NZ. Then we can all have our kicking penalty game and they can have a new game. Lets call it 'Rugby Awesome'.
Presume you were talking about AUs club rugby though of which subject I am almost entirely innocent.
Submitted by Yozz (user info) at 2009-09-20 11:12:26 EDT (#)
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