Real Fucking Punk (2605 hits)
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Submitted by Bob Dole <robotgod80.at.hotmail.com> (View user info) at 2003-10-21 13:05:36 EDT
Punk. God if i head one more looser 16-yr old band "high-school-band" claim to be punk i'm gonna go postal. Punk IS D.K., and The Numbsculls (local from So. Fla.), and the movie SLC PUNK. Salt Lake City IS punk.
Not this whiney fucking:
"my girlfriend dumped me and i'm sad, and my mommy wont let me have the car tonight, so i'll jump around stage and prent to be 'hardcore', which as far as I know, is something cool."
No. Youre not hardcore. You may be rock, of some lesser form or another, but not punk. Dying your hair, and wearing bobby pins on your torn clothes doesent cut it. And the Spiked collars and wristbands? Thats Goth shit. (I'd rather not redirect to someone else's rants, but tough shit) Refer to Maddox for his rant on Goth.
Greenday? They're the exception, and the ONLY exception to the rule. they've been doing this for so long that they're punk if they want to be. They're rock too. They kickass, so the rest of you can fuck off if you dont like them. (yeah, here come the -2's). Now, Good Charlotte (and the 400 clones like them)-- thats emo, maybe some ska. Some of it is good music, but not punk.
And since when did punk become more a sellable/marketable music genre and less a mindset? What happened here? Punk was supposed to be the anti-mainstream. Any band becoming mainstream was no longer punk, and therefor only rock. Now, mainstreamed punk bands get a record contract, MTV airtime, and constant replay status on the all your 'favorite' commercial radio station. And you know what supports all this? The damned screaming fans who all look alike, think alike, act alike, and still believe they're soecial individuals. Yeah, special... Special Ed. Heads up "Spike", youre not unique. Rinse the purple shit outta your hair, youre not surprising anyone. You don't need holes in your ears big enough to get your undersized dick into- or 8 earrings up the cartilage of your ear. People did that in the 60's to piss off the squares. Now- it's the squares that are doing it! (No, I'm not a hippie, or that old, and thanks, Carlin- needed to borrow that bit). Oh, and Hot Topic? Yeah, it sucks too... the T-Shirts are cool, but thats it. Oh, and the torn clothing thing? If you buy it like that- you suck. Torn clothing is a punk thing- a quote from a friend:
"Our shit looks that way cause we got fucked up tryin to fuck someone elses shit up"
You get torn jeans from moshing, fighting for the hell of it, bikeing/blading/boarding and getting torn to shit because you flew across a 4 lane road and got slammed by a truck at 45mph. Not pre-built saftey-in-mind "skate parks". NOT because Tony Hawk has clothes that look like that. Stop this fad crap. Do something because it means something to you. Rebell against "the machine" because you have a reason... not because your parents don't let you out after 2am.
<random targeted hatred of ricers>
And quit whineing about you fucking honda civic. It sucks as much as you do.
</random targeted hatred of ricers>
"...Everybody needs to start their own fire, everybody needs a riot of their own..."
--Powerman 5000
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Submitted by CrazyCanuck (user info) at 2005-10-11 16:10:21 EDT (#)
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Submitted by TarikJax (user info) at 2004-03-08 18:07:04 (#)
Ranking: -2
Who gives a shit? What does it matter if it's punk, ska, metal or f'ing cheesy pop? If you don't like it, as The Offspring said, "just don't listen to it".
Submitted by not important <stardust501.at.aol.com> at 2004-08-20 10:51:29 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
No one is born Punk so you had to get it from someone else. And so on and so on.
Submitted by TarikJax (user info) at 2004-03-08 18:07:04 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
Who gives a shit? What does it matter if it's punk, ska, metal or fucking cheesy pop? If you don't like it, as The Offspring said, "just don't listen to it".
Submitted by Biloba (user info) at 2004-02-24 16:49:30 EST (#)
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The cold truth is that very few punk groups were very good. Most couldn't play, (or sing) for shit.
Submitted by Death_Metal_Dude (user info) at 2004-02-24 16:37:15 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
"Punk ain't no religious cult
Punk means thinking for yourself
You ain't hardcore when you spike your hair
when a jock still lives inside your head"
Submitted by hafguitarist6767 (user info) at 2004-02-24 16:19:23 EST (#)
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I can't think of a decent reply to this so I'll just use a quote that I think pretty much sums up the whole "I'm punk thing"
"You'll find (that) empty barrels make the most noise."
-John Lydon
And if you don't know who John Lydon is you sure as hell arn't no punk
Submitted by RandomHero at 2004-02-24 16:08:34 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
what a piece of shit. who are you trying to impress skippy?
people who claim to be an original punk, and chastise those who are "posing" are just as bad. shut the fuck up. like you said, punk is a state of mind. so why not just be punk for yourself, and not worry about "posers?" oh that's right, because you're a fuck!
eat a dick
Submitted by slyphter (user info) at 2004-02-05 03:37:56 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
That's a whole lotta rules for punk
Submitted by Lucifer_Industries (user info) at 2004-02-05 03:36:51 EST (#)
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I am punk rock, pay attention. Discuss not anything else.
Malone
Submitted by DraconianKing (user info) at 2004-02-05 02:53:37 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
Punk sucks.
Submitted by Falconer (user info) at 2004-01-04 16:52:11 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
Yes. They suck. Well done.
Submitted by bob (user info) at 2004-01-04 16:50:16 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
shit.
Submitted by suarezthechicken (user info) at 2004-01-04 16:38:44 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
Song number one is not a fuck you song
I'll save that thought until later on
You want to know if there's something wrong?
It's nothing. everybody's talking about their hometown scenes
And hurting people's feelings in their magazines
You want to know what it all means?
It's nothing.
Fighting for a haircut?
Then grow your hair
Crying for the music?
I doubt you really care
Looking for an answer?
You can find it anywhere
It's nothing.
Life is what you want it to be
So don't get tangled up trying to be free
And don't worry what the other people see
It's nothing.
fugazi summed it up pretty well there.
Submitted by drink_DDT (user info) at 2003-11-21 10:47:13 EST (#)
Ranking: 1
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Submitted by MeggieEll (user info) at 2003-10-22 14:45:33 EDT (#)
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I would just like to add that all tis emo, whiney, "life's so awful' crap really annoys me too. As do the kids who run around with their identity crisis, not just the faux punk/emo/goths, but all the decidedly seperate cliques that tell you who you are by the music you listen to. These are the kids who get older, go to college and join frats and sororities because they need a group to belong to. I'm also negating my -1 w/ a +1, sorry, just a little slip of the click!
Submitted by MeggieEll (user info) at 2003-10-22 14:16:44 EDT (#)
Ranking: -1
You are terribly mistaken about the "my girlfrien dumped me, blah blah blah" as being considered punk by htese 16 yr. olds. They don't consider themselves punk either. They're EMO. Or screamo, or emo-hardcore, indie-emo, there's different genres. It originated from punk, yes, but is not classified as punk. Give these kids a break, they just piss you off so bad because you know, deep down inside YOU WERE THAT KID. It's ok. We all were a little bit. Angst ridden, trying to find your niche, wanting to be different but not wanting to be tormented for it because that's what happens in high school. But are right about MTV, it sucks and i gave up on it a long time ago, and the manufactured "worn look" is outrageously ridiculous, but don't diss Hot Topic, I love a lot of their panties. 3 for 12 bucks!!
Submitted by Insanethemind (user info) at 2003-10-22 13:24:23 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
not interesting. at all.
not informative. at all.
not tits. at all
(-2)
Salt Lake City is punk? what?
Submitted by Bob_Dole (user info) at 2003-10-22 13:20:18 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Bob_Dole (user info) at 2003-10-22 13:17:05 EDT (#)
Ranking: 1
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GB does kick ass. friend of mine got a demo (burned, not sure where it came from) from them.
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Submitted by Bob_Dole (user info) at 2003-10-22 13:15:12 EDT (#)
Ranking: 1
Wow, well I know how to hit a nerve around here. people take my rantings a little too seriously sometimes...
Street punk is right:
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I think NoFx is fucking great. They can be political, emotional, and down right hilarious. They are pretty good about not giving a fuck and making fun of "punk rock mentality." That's why they rock and you can not measure a band by one song. You can't say "Green Day is not punk because one of their songs delt with different subject matter."
I believe I have heard Green Day do many rebellious and angst ridden songs but punk music isn't about just that. Look at Black Flag.
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I'm not saying they HAVE to fit in to a certian CATEGORY. I'm saying what we have on MTV today, is sort of like britney spears calling herself goth, because she has a video with a snake and a guy with leather on appear in it.
Hey, Ref
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you rant about being punk and you end your post with a decidedly unpunk band -pm5k.
punk is a lifestyle. just like goth. you can listen to country and still be punk.
you fucked up your whole post by doing what everyone else does -associate a lifestyle with a type of music. die.
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when the fuck did I say I was punk? I kinda like the music, got a few friends who qualify as punk, But personally I'm more metal. and didnt you just contradict yourself there? Youre saying punk is a lifestyle (i agree there) and then say i'm an ass for saying the same thing? Oh, and die.
Sec- same thing for you- I'm BITCHING ABOUT WHAT YOURE FLAMING ME FOR. These whiney (probally like you) 16yr olds make it into this big deal, and buy matching clothes, and all that shit. I'm not saying you have to pick punk/not punk. I'm pissed that these whiney emo bands think they're something more. I'm not saying anyone shouldnt listen to it, (i happen to find it annoying, but thats my opinion, and from the -2s, most poeple dont agree, and thats fine. we have an open forum for a reason) I'm just saying that it's become a fad, a trend, they're cloning themselves faster than the ebola virus, and it's damn irritating. +1 for myself, because it's my damn opinion, and it doesent suck that bad.
Submitted by itchy (user info) at 2003-10-22 10:02:10 EDT (#)
Ranking: -1
D_M_D - I disagree. DK is great and they may own much, but Gorilla Biscuits owns all.
Gorilla FUCKING Biscuits!!!!!
Gorilla Biscuits!
GB!
Submitted by Sec (user info) at 2003-10-22 09:37:40 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
I remember this pathetic crap when I was a teenager. Seperating music into all these classes and if you like this you're not allowed to like that and this band is the one true music... etc., etc. Shut the fuck up.
Submitted by TheRef (user info) at 2003-10-21 20:18:52 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
you rant about being punk and you end your post with a decidedly unpunk band -pm5k.
punk is a lifestyle. just like goth. you can listen to country and still be punk.
you fucked up your whole post by doing what everyone else does -associate a lifestyle with a type of music.
die.
Submitted by lucid (user info) at 2003-10-21 20:07:41 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
You guessed correct poster!
Here is your -2 for mentioning the band Greenday, who if they are to be considered "punk" it would have alot more to do with the fact that they are punkasses rather than the genre of their material.
They write pop songs and play them with wailing guitars. I'm not entirely sure, but I think it's been done to death before by a million bands that came before them.
Fucking kids and their music.
Stay off my lawn while you're at it you little bastards.
Submitted by Death_Metal_Dude (user info) at 2003-10-21 18:31:42 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
DK owns all.
Submitted by streetpunk (user info) at 2003-10-21 17:49:12 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Skunk, gc is not ska. They are emo-poppy punk. I actually like some of their shit, not all but some I find well written. I hate new found glory. They make my skin crawl. Ska is just a form of calypso (island music) mixed with punk rock. Atleast the newer waves. There are a few ska bands without horns. Operation Ivy and Squad 5-0 to name a few. It is common but not necessity.
Submitted by El_Guapo (user info) at 2003-10-21 17:46:40 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
"Submitted by Rokinroj (user info) at 2003-10-21 14:01:57 (#)
Ranking: -1
An exception to the rule about "going commercial is no longer punk" was the "Decline of the Western Civilization" movie and soundtrack.
That kicked ass, even though it did go a little bit commercial in it's marketing.
El_Guapo, you ever listen to or watch that?
Rokinroj
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yep. I & II, i have I on video somewhere......though i'm more of a fan of another state of mind
this post is still ghey
Submitted by crackergirl (user info) at 2003-10-21 17:45:57 EDT (#)
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ooh yeah, Ramones man. the ramones.
i saw a t-shirt in a boutique the other day that came with johnny rotten (of the sex pistols) pre-silk screened on it. just thought it was funny.
Submitted by Skunk5446 (user info) at 2003-10-21 17:38:59 EDT (#)
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I agree with Streetpunk there.
One question, how is Good Charlotte ska? I dont listen to them, but I am pretty sure they dont have any brass instruments, and maybe I am wrong, but I have never heard of a ska band that didnt use those
Submitted by streetpunk (user info) at 2003-10-21 17:20:57 EDT (#)
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I think NoFx is fucking great. They can be political, emotional, and down right hilarious. They are pretty good about not giving a fuck and making fun of "punk rock mentality." That's why they rock and you can not measure a band by one song. You can't say "Green Day is not punk because one of their songs delt with different subject matter."
I believe I have heard Green Day do many rebellious and angst ridden songs but punk music isn't about just that. Look at Black Flag. They did a song called "TV PArty Tonight," which was a drinking anthem. No angst or politics involved. Punk should really be what you make it out to be and I believe it is about independent thought, so to say one band is more punk than another is really contradicting what punk is to begin with.
Submitted by QueenAshlee (user info) at 2003-10-21 16:39:57 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
I've got this to say to you:
Fuck
off.
Submitted by RideJohnnyRide (user info) at 2003-10-21 16:28:17 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Noones got a thing against you
Unless you've got something to prove
We dont need no new set of standards
We dont need no new set of rules
I've heard all that shit before
About stomping out any difference
We say stand together
Not to fight
Just to exist
In closing, shut up.
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2003-10-21 15:01:00 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
what is the deal with all this punk shit
don't care
don't care
Submitted by itchy (user info) at 2003-10-21 14:57:25 EDT (#)
Ranking: -1
Yeah, you are probably right. NOFX is really pretty overrated. But still, the Vandals, Agent Orange, Bad Brains, Fugazi,the Circle Jerks, BLACK FUCKING FLAG, Bad Religion, Minor Threat, and the Exploited were overlooked too.
I just didn't really like Danzig/Samhain/the Misfits or however all of those played together.
Submitted by Legendary_Threat (user info) at 2003-10-21 14:49:53 EDT (#)
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Itchy did you just say NOFX is more punk than Danzig(well not Danzig the band, thats hard metal) but with the misfits, that and the ramones, shit one of the romanes is in the new misfits, but back in the 70s the misfits and the sex pistols were punk, but NOFX doesnt deserve to be in that list at fucking all.
Submitted by itchy (user info) at 2003-10-21 14:43:00 EDT (#)
Ranking: -1
If Green Day is the standard by which you measure punk, or even Danzig for that matter, I can't even begin to have a conversation about this.
Thank you whoever mentioned the Clash. But you forgot the Sex Pistols, the Ramones, G.B.H., D.R.I., the Decendents, NOFX, the Subhumans, Gorilla Biscuits, T.S.O.L, Suicidal Tendencies, old Corrosion of Conformity, the Faction, Stiff Little Fingers, Operation Ivy, and a bunch of others these seventh-wave revival bitches will never know about.
FUCK!
Submitted by Emily <browneyedgirl123.at.hotmail.com> at 2003-10-21 14:31:35 EDT (#)
Ranking: -1
"No time to search the world around cause you know where I'll be found when I come around."
(Green Day)
vs.
"London's burning! London's burning! All across the town, all across the night everybody's driving with full head lights black or white, turn it on, face the new religion!"
(The Clash)
That being said, I think I'm going to disagree that Green Day is punk. Not only can they not write it lyrically but they can't play it musically. I mean, I like 'em as much as the next angst-ridden, rebellious teenager, but eh. Not punk anymore so than Good Charlotte, Blink 182, Newfound Glory, etc.
Submitted by Rokinroj (user info) at 2003-10-21 14:01:57 EDT (#)
Ranking: -1
An exception to the rule about "going commercial is no longer punk" was the "Decline of the Western Civilization" movie and soundtrack.
That kicked ass, even though it did go a little bit commercial in it's marketing.
El_Guapo, you ever listen to or watch that?
Rokinroj
Submitted by William_Q_Percy (user info) at 2003-10-21 14:00:33 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
I like my civic, asshole.
Submitted by Apathesia (user info) at 2003-10-21 13:48:36 EDT (#)
Ranking: -1
If you have to define punk, you aren't it. If you think you -must- have a mohawk, and wear a handmade jacket with "The Casualties" or other bands hand-stiched on, then you are trying to define it a little too hard. Listen to what you want to, and leave it at that.
Submitted by Falconer (user info) at 2003-10-21 13:45:20 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Pop punk sucks, but so do you.
Submitted by El_Guapo (user info) at 2003-10-21 13:12:04 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
shut up idiot
Submitted by tuesdaydelay (user info) at 2003-10-21 13:11:52 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Bob_Dole (user info) at 2003-10-21 13:11:22 EDT (#)
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Tom, not all fads are bad... some are just, how do i say, annoying.
Submitted by Legendary_Threat (user info) at 2003-10-21 13:10:55 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Good Charlotte good?
Green Day?
I hate you.
The Misfits(Danzig Era) Thats real punk
The Misfits(Graves Era) Not real punk, but way better than any of the lame ass shit you listed as being punk.
Submitted by Tom (user info) at 2003-10-21 13:08:15 EDT (#)
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Tell Tom again why fads are bad bad things.
-Tom