Clark vs. Bush (698 hits)
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Submitted by Rokinroj <rokinroj.at.hotmail.com> (View user info) at 2003-10-21 13:45:56 EDT
Yes I know there was just a Wesley Clark post the other day, and this began as a response to it, but it grew so long I decided to make it a post of it's own. Obviously my take is slanted, but the facts are true.
Clark vs. Bush on education
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Clark graduated from WestPoint and then went on to get three Master's Degrees in Philosophy, Politics, and Economics from Oxford University, where he was a Rhodes Scholar.
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Bush has a bachelor's degree from Yale University and an MBA from Harvard.
Clark vs. Bush on military service
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Clark 25 years of service
From 1969 to 1970, Captain Clark served in Vietnam. In February 1970, he was wounded in battle. He suffered a gunshot wounds to the right shoulder, right hand, right hip and right leg.
From 1997 to 2000 General Clark served in in Kosovo.
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Bush served one term in the Texas Air National Guard, And was reported AWOL
Never saw any action.
Clark vs. Bush on Work History(post college and pre-presidential)
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From 1997 through May of 2000, General Clark was NATO Supreme Allied Commander and Commander in Chief of the United States European Command.
From 1996 to 1997, General Clark served as Commander in Chief of the United States Southern Command, Panama.
From 1994 to 1996, he served as Director for Strategic Plans and Policy for the Joint Chiefs of staff.
General Clark is a recipient of numerous U.S. and foreign military awards, including the Silver Star, Bronze Star, and Purple Heart and the Medal of Freedom.
General Clark served as Commanding General for the 1st Cavalry Division in Fort Hood, Texas, from 1992 to 1994.
From 1989 to 1991, Colonel Clark served as Commanding General of the National Training Center at Fort Irwin, California. At Fort Irwin.
** I won't bore you with the rest of the equally impressive work history **
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Bush Ran for congress and lost.
Produced a Hollywood slasher B movie.
Bought an oil company, but couldn't find any oil in Texas, the company went bankrupt shortly after he sold all his stock. (hmmm...)
Bought the Texas Rangers baseball team in a sweetheart deal that took land using tax-payer money. Biggest move: Traded Sammy Sosa to the Chicago White Sox.
With fathers help (and his name) was elected Governor of Texas.
Became president after losing the popular vote by over 500,000 votes, with the help of my fathers appointments to the Supreme Court.
Clark vs. Bush on Accomplishments (post college and pre-presidential)
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General Clark is a recipient of numerous U.S. and foreign military awards, including the Silver Star, Bronze Star, and Purple Heart. He received honorary Knighthoods from the British and Dutch governments and was made a commander of the French Legion of Honor. In August 2000, President Clinton awarded General Clark with the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civilian honor.
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Changed pollution laws for power and oil companies and made Texas the most polluted state in the Union. Replaced Los Angeles with Houston as the most smog ridden city in America. Cut taxes and bankrupted the Texas government to the tune of billions in borrowed money. Set record for most executions by any Governor in American history.
I think Bush is an ass hat and it sickens me that he has the balls to run for second term. In my opinion he ought to put his tail between his legs and go find a dark place to lay down and lick his wounds.
Rokinroj
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Submitted by Redrum (user info) at 2004-01-13 20:56:39 EST (#)
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Guess I'm the only one who caught this: "Became president after losing the popular vote by over 500,000 votes, with the help of *my fathers* appointments to the Supreme Court." (Emphasis mine.)
Your father's appointment to the Supreme Court? Is your father Clarence Thomas?
Submitted by Rokinroj (user info) at 2003-10-21 18:04:34 EDT (#)
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Hey Drunk, sorry I was wrong about his involvement in the production...I thought he was hands on, but turns out he just helped fund the production.
From 1983 until 1993, George W. Bush served on the board of directors of Silver Screen Management, founded by Yale fraternity brother and long-time business associate Roland W. Betts. Through a succession of four limited partnerships, this company raised over $1 billion in capital to fund movie productions, including the Hitcher.
Submitted by DrunkMonk (user info) at 2003-10-21 16:11:43 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Rokinroj (user info) at 2003-10-21 14:28:40 (#)
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He was actively involved in the production of the 1986 thriller movie - The Hitcher
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091209/
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No Bush here....
Produced by
David Bombyk .... producer
Edward S. Feldman .... executive producer
Paul Lewis .... co-producer
Charles R. Meeker .... executive producer
Kip Ohman .... producer
Submitted by Rokinroj (user info) at 2003-10-21 15:19:26 EDT (#)
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You're right Mercutio lets put aside the fact that one has a spine and one doesnt
Lets focus on other stuff like education.
Submitted by William_Q_Percy (user info) at 2003-10-21 15:06:45 EDT (#)
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Sounds perfect to be an American President. Did Clark work in the O-Ring?
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2003-10-21 15:05:01 EDT (#)
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his take on it:
http://www.pbs.org/newshour/conversation/jan-june01/clark_06-15.html
Submitted by Titinita (user info) at 2003-10-21 14:57:34 EDT (#)
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...and by "lack of integrity" I mean being an opportunistic weasaling scumbag.
Submitted by Titinita (user info) at 2003-10-21 14:56:11 EDT (#)
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...and by "relieved" I mean fired. Kicked out on his ass. Quietly.
Submitted by Titinita (user info) at 2003-10-21 14:53:33 EDT (#)
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Clark was also "relieved" of his position at the Pentagon for lack of integrity. (I'd have to ask my dad about the specifics, my dad's position is in the D-ring, which is on the "inside." If anyone needs me to back this up I can, just not now. :) ) He also enjoys changing his mind on important issues when it is convenient for him to do so, and then avoids describing what exactly that position is.
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2003-10-21 14:42:46 EDT (#)
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a can of tuna would make a better president than this bush guy
Serioulsy, what's the worst thing that Clark could do? Ruin the economy and take us into a war on thinly disguised false pretenses?
Submitted by Rokinroj (user info) at 2003-10-21 14:40:10 EDT (#)
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Submitted by SexualWhiteChocolate (user info) at 2003-10-21 14:02:08 (#)
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We all know how important military service is for canidites of the democratic party
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It should be important to all parties being as the president is the Commander in Chief. In charge of all military branches. He let his advisors declare this war, because he didn't know what the hell to do, and then blammed them and accused them of lying when the war didn't go his way.
His inexperience is reeking off of him like the smell of OxyContin from Rush Limbaugh's sweat.
Rokinroj
Submitted by SpikeGoddess (user info) at 2003-10-21 14:36:41 EDT (#)
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"All I see when I look at Clark's credentials is someone who will potentially use American agression even further and for far worse things than Bush ever did."
Why? Can you back this up somehow?
SpikeGoddess
Submitted by glam_daddy (user info) at 2003-10-21 14:33:34 EDT (#)
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who i didnt know that. the hitcher was good in my opinion.
Submitted by Rokinroj (user info) at 2003-10-21 14:28:40 EDT (#)
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George W. Bush was on the board of directors for Silver Screen Management -- a company most noted for their successful efforts to push Disney to make R-rated films.
He was actively involved in the production of the 1986 thriller movie - The Hitcher
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0091209/
Rokinroj
Submitted by WillZone (user info) at 2003-10-21 14:23:29 EDT (#)
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Though Dean is cooler.
Submitted by DrunkMonk (user info) at 2003-10-21 14:16:57 EDT (#)
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Bush produced a movie? I can't find it on imdb, what is it?
Submitted by Mercutio (user info) at 2003-10-21 14:15:07 EDT (#)
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Right...the amount of times each candidate was shot in a conflict is going to help me form an educated opinion.
Submitted by William_Q_Percy (user info) at 2003-10-21 14:07:18 EDT (#)
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Yes, but how many chicks have they nailed at one time?
Seriously though, what are you trying to say? Everybody on the planet knows Bush is a joke and that a 5 year old child would be just as effective as him in office. All I see when I look at Clark's credentials is someone who will potentially use American agression even further and for far worse things than Bush ever did.
Submitted by SexualWhiteChocolate (user info) at 2003-10-21 14:02:08 EDT (#)
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We all know how important military service is for canidites of the democratic party. Wait, only important when it's in their favor is what I meant to say.
Submitted by glam_daddy (user info) at 2003-10-21 13:59:39 EDT (#)
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Fair and ballanced
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Submitted by The.Masked.Assailant (user info) at 2003-10-21 13:55:56 EDT (#)
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Submitted by The.Masked.Assailant (user info) at 2003-10-21 13:55:40 EDT (#)
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i love how you were impartial here
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Submitted by sam_el (user info) at 2003-10-21 13:51:12 EDT (#)
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While I do believe that the facts you present heavily favor Clark, I don't think you can choose a president based on that. You have to look at their character and their politic and, in the case of the incumbent especially, what they have done with their time in office. Advantage Clark! So no matter how you slice it, Bush IS an asshat.