Re-education Camp (789 hits)
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Submitted by <lexlutherin.at.hotmail.com> (View user info) at 2003-12-07 19:23:17 EST
http://www.kuro5hin.org/story/2003/6/30/44110/2720
Has anyone else heard of anything like this before?
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Submitted by dakingisdead (user info) at 2003-12-07 23:43:37 EST (#)
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I think it is a great idea. I can think of quite a few kids I have had the misfortune to run into in the supermarket an variuous eating establishments that I would happily send to this resort. hahahahaha
Submitted by bob (user info) at 2003-12-07 22:19:34 EST (#)
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Don't you think laying face down 12 hours a day for months cruel and unusual?
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thats why its in Jamacia(sp?)
Submitted by LexLutherin (user info) at 2003-12-07 21:43:47 EST (#)
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By the way, I'm not anti-spanking. However I don't think I would tie my kids up in a chair in a closet feeding them through a small hole for 6 months at a time.
Submitted by LexLutherin (user info) at 2003-12-07 21:42:49 EST (#)
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Did you people advocating this even read the article? Do you think it's reasonable for a kid who's parents are too lazy to do any parenting themselves to send their kids to a camp where you are basically in prison? Don't you think laying face down 12 hours a day for months cruel and unusual? What could these kids possibly have done to deserve something like that?
Submitted by bargled (user info) at 2003-12-07 20:39:39 EST (#)
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Also, Koolmang, scientific research can be swayed both ways, and it can be interpreted almost any way you want to. I'm sure there are dozens of studies that find spanking both helpful and negative. But I did look around and found something that I think is true (and you should read):
Q: What does behavioral research tell us about the best way to raise children?
Dr. Dobson: My answer may sound like heresy coming from a man who spent 10 years of his life as a professor of pediatrics, responsible for medical and behavioral research, but I don't believe the scientific community is capable of determining the best parenting techniques. There have been some worthwhile studies, to be sure, but the subject of discipline almost defies definitive investigation.
Why? Because the only way to study this topic scientifically would be to place newborns randomly in "permissive" vs. "disciplined" families, and then keep them under close observation for 10 or 15 years. Since it is impossible to do that, researchers have tried to tease out information where they could find it. But family relationships are so multidimensional and complicated that they almost defy rigorous scrutiny. Indeed, most of the studies reported are scientifically useless. For example, Dr. David Larson, psychiatrist and formerly a researcher at the National Institutes of Health, reviewed 132 articles in professional journals that purported to investigate the long-term consequences of corporal punishment. He found most of them flawed in design. Ninety percent of the studies failed to distinguish between good homes where spanking was administered by loving parents, and those bordering on (or actually inflicting) child abuse. Larson concluded that the findings were invalidated by this failure to consider the overall health of family relationships. To repeat, the consequences of various approaches to parental discipline appear to be beyond the reach of social research.
Dr. James Dobson is president of Focus on the Family, a nonprofit organization dedicated to the preservation of the family.
Submitted by jimbobjoe (user info) at 2003-12-07 20:39:29 EST (#)
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I have to say that I have not had to resort to spanking yet with my boy
and I hope that I never do. He's 20 mos old and making him sit in a chair
works superbly for him when I make him do it. He doesn't like having to sit
in one place as he is so young and he understands he has done something
wrong. He won't even get out of the chair for fear of having to sit for
longer after he tried to get away with that several times.
Spanking is something that should be reserved for when absolutely necessary,
it doesn't do any good but if I ever felt as a parent that I needed to spank
my son I don't think I should have to undergo legal scrutiny because I have done
so. I think it's ridiculous some of the shit that goes on with parents now days,
but on the other hand I understand that some children are really being abused.
The real problem lies in each individual and how they treat their kids. If the kids
are given the necessary attention and non-physical discipline early enough the hope is
that spanking will never be an issue, but the time comes when non-physical discipline
does not work, and this is where the spanking becomes necessary. I can't say where that
point is or is not, but I think some should understand that some kids need a good thwap
as they have gotten too old to be disciplined any other way. Some kids need it at 8, others
at 15 and some not at all.
The other thing that needs to be said about a spanking is that it shouldn't hurt for more
than a few seconds, otherwise you're hitting the kid too hard. There isn't anything more
humiliating then being put over your father's knee and spanked. Any kid will think twice
about acting up like that again with that leering over their head.
I know the reply is long, but it doesn't deserve it's post.
Submitted by bob (user info) at 2003-12-07 20:32:40 EST (#)
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this is bullshit. sending a rich kid just because his/her boy/girlfriend isnt good or he/she "doesnt respect the family".
PLUS you have to spend $40,000 to go there.
this is shit and the people who run this camp should be tortured for the enjoyment of the general public as entertainment during a Giants game.
Submitted by bargled (user info) at 2003-12-07 20:24:33 EST (#)
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I can personally stand beside spanking and say that it has made me a better person and has taught me to respect my elders. When you're spanked, you realize that what you've done is wrong, and you don't do it again for the fear of being spanked again. It's psychological.
Submitted by CDizzle (user info) at 2003-12-07 20:22:34 EST (#)
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I'll have to agree with bargled on this one. While I'm not an advocate of abusing children, a spanking never hurt anyone. It's when redneck bastards beat there kids is when we have a nation of "homegrown terrorists". But if a child goes whack and shoots up a post office because he was physically disciplined (note I said disciplined, not abused), then this child has SERIOUS problems.
Submitted by KoolMang (user info) at 2003-12-07 20:19:02 EST (#)
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I appreciate what you're saying, bargled. Can you back it up with
scientific proof? Inside the site I just displayed is countless
articles providing scientific evidence that spanking does less
good for a child, compared to non-violent punishments. Some evidence
states that spanking leads to substance abuse, anxiety, and depression!
How can you possibly contest that?
Submitted by bargled (user info) at 2003-12-07 20:14:13 EST (#)
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Whoa Kool, you and your hippie ideals are cool and all, but they dont work. What children need is a spanking and a lashing here and there to keep them in line when they do something wrong, and if they really fuck up they need to be taught how to act properly, by any means neccesary in my opinion. Otherwise, you raise a generation of pussies that think counseling and therapy is the awnser to all of lifes problems and they can't think for themselves.
Submitted by KoolMang (user info) at 2003-12-07 19:57:18 EST (#)
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Don't joke about this bargled. This is serious shit.
This kinda thing needs to be stopped, otherwise we'll be creating
homegrown terrorists.
I don't feel like directing you to a specific page, so go to
http://www.nospank.net for information on boot camps and the like
in the United States.
Submitted by bargled (user info) at 2003-12-07 19:37:30 EST (#)
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The kids are 'reformed' by a combination of physical restraint, brainwashing, bribery through gaining privileges and basically not being allowed to leave the place until they submit. The most drastic punishment is lying on your face on the floor for up to 12 hours a day.
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Hell yeah!