SnapShot: Waiting till Marriage to have Sex (3731 hits)
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Submitted by ReallyBored (View user info) at 2003-12-23 11:25:38 EST
Today's SnapShot: Waiting till Marriage to have Sex.
What/Who/Where is it?
It's an idea being pushed forward by most major religious groups and other organizations http://www.suntimes.co.za/2003/02/16/scamto/scamto02.asp. Besides religious scriptures that state sex should only be between a married man and women, religious groups point towards the risks involved. Specifically AIDS/HIV, unwanted pregnancy, and other STDs.
What is the controversy?
More and more people are waiting to get married today. In Japan the problem has reached epidemic levels as many young women wait so long that it has begun to upset the fragile Japanese economy. As more people wait this in turn means more waiting for sex, if you follow the belief. The thought of waiting till 27 (the average age a male in US waits to get married http://abcnews.go.com/sections/scitech/DyeHard/dyehard020814.html) to have sex can be a bit unnerving for many people, and those who would have waited do not.
Who's For it?
Religious organizations, certain health groups, pro-life organizations.
Who's Against it?
Frat guys, sorority girls, most college students, most high school students, a shit load of people, me
Authors Take:
The reasons for waiting to have sex are foolish at best. The other side plays on the ignorant and uses fuzzy logic to support its claims. Being married or not has NO IMPACT on AIDS/HIV, or any other STD. The simple act of saying vows, exchanging rings, and getting a little license does not have anything to do with viruses and bacteria and little crab-guys. Anyone who has taking a sex-ed class in HS can tell you this.
I think that we need to change this from Waiting till Marriage to Waiting till Monogamous. I completely support a sexual monogamous relationship between two people before marriage. Actually I promote it. I think people SHOULD have sex before marriage. Sex is a very strong and very powerful act. It needs to be understood before marriage. Sex can ruin relationships in a heartbeat, and you shouldn't gamble a marriage on it.
Final Thought:
Would you go to the Superbowl without practicing first?
Discuss.
User Reviews
Submitted by podium (user info) at 2005-03-22 22:16:25 EST (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by BowDown2Me (user info) at 2004-03-31 18:23:43 EST (#)
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Fuck waiting. My dick gave up waiting 6 years ago, and I'm 23 now.
Final thought:
Sex is your friend. So is the warm, inviting crotch of a fine woman.
MMMM...Tasty
Submitted by reallybored (user info) at 2004-01-06 16:06:23 EST (#)
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haha Guapo.
Im scared of sleeping with virgins, let alone marry one.
Submitted by El_Guapo (user info) at 2004-01-06 15:58:29 EST (#)
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"By the way, alot of my friends who have sex alot are very selfish and not very good. I think that people who are patiently waiting to have sex are often also very responsive to the other person and willing to listen to them verbally and non verbally to see what they are doing right. Two people having sex for the first time will figure out how to turn each other on, and they will spend a lifetime getting better."
i've been having sex since i was 14, and i've never had any complaints.
except from the neighbors and roommates.
Submitted by smokymtcsw (user info) at 2004-01-06 15:46:28 EST (#)
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Reasons to wait to have sex?
There are the religious reasons, the Bible is pretty clear about the issue.
There is also an incredible amount of trust that can be built into a relationship. There are those who never have sex because they cannot get anyone to want to with them, and those who say no to sex alot. If someone has said no to sex alot from people who they find attractive because they believe in something more important than themself, their marriage partner will always know that they are not going to have sex because they are bored, or lonely or whatever. So the level of trust is amazing.
Also people who wait to have sex until they are married are in a truly blissful state of ignorance. As I am sure we can all agree, with sufficient foreplay reaching an orgasm is not all that difficult for either gender, and if someone waits until marriage for sex the other person will not be comparing them to anyone else and thinking the other person was better. They also will not have the depth of emotional connection to anyone else in the entire world.
The word holy means set apart and when the Bible talks about keeping the marriage bed holy it means have one place where you are known so fully and where you know someone else. Having a place that sacred and special, consecrating an act that is shared only between two people is pretty great.
By the way, alot of my friends who have sex alot are very selfish and not very good. I think that people who are patiently waiting to have sex are often also very responsive to the other person and willing to listen to them verbally and non verbally to see what they are doing right. Two people having sex for the first time will figure out how to turn each other on, and they will spend a lifetime getting better.
Submitted by LacyFace16 (user info) at 2003-12-27 16:22:12 EST (#)
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Sorry I'm late on this one...it's been a rough couple of days!
In my opinion, the decision to have sex usually isn't a planned one. It is made in the heat of the moment, hopefully not 3 hours after meeting someone. I respect those people who have chosen to wait because that is what they feel is right or they know themselves well enough to say they are not ready.
Unfortunately, I had sex at a younger age than I think i was ready for and though I regret my first time, I do not regret having sex with certain people I've been with because it allowed me to share emotions on a much deeper level. I think I also learned alot more about myself and my body through those experiences but sex is not a tool to be used to learn about youself, espcially when done casually. Sex with someone you care for deeply or maybe even love has been much more beneficial in my own experiences.
It is an individual choice. You do it when you think it's right. Something that could have been debated maybe would have been sex for recreational purposes or careless sex as opposed to monogomous sex.
Hope everyone had a nice holiday!
~Michelle
Submitted by Noodles (user info) at 2003-12-26 22:15:07 EST (#)
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I made the decision a long time ago that I wanted to wait until I was married. It started out based on the religion aspect, saving myself and all, but as I have grown up a bit and been in some longer relationships I've realized that my original reasons for waiting are no longer the same. Now I want to wait until I am ready and in a relationship that it important enough for me to make that commitment.
I don't know when I will have sex for the first time but I know that it is my decision to make and I know that it is every persons decision. For that reason I have no problems with people who have premarital sex, casual sex or anything that they want. I have the same opinion about drugs and such. If you want to do it, go ahead its not my choice to judge. I don't expect you to force me to think like you so I'm not going to force you to think like me.
Submitted by Chris at 2003-12-25 23:04:32 EST (#)
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Look at all the whores i spotted on christmas mommy!
Submitted by reallybored (user info) at 2003-12-25 14:29:12 EST (#)
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"I am fucking awesome, I'm sorry that you do not have the pleasure of understanding this. I am not surprised, however. It takes good taste and insight to like me. "
"The trouble with the world is that the stupid are cocksure and the intelligent are full of doubt."
-Bertrand Russell
Submitted by QueenAshlee (user info) at 2003-12-24 23:13:27 EST (#)
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Submitted by Kristen (user info) at 2003-12-23 11:33:36 (#)
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I'm Pro Wait Until You Have Your First Orgasm and Then Tell Me to Wait Till I'm Married, You Nosy ShitFace.
AHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
Shay, stop being such a goddamned cunt. Seriously.
I might add my two cents to this later. Right now, I'm too tired and if I try to say something serious, chances are it won't make much sense.
Submitted by Lady_Emily_03 (user info) at 2003-12-24 14:50:33 EST (#)
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To answer ReallyBored's questions:
**Has any of your friends had sex before marriage? If so, did that cause any problems between you two?
Several of my close friends have had sex before marriage, including a few of my cousins who I've been almost best friends with since I was a little kid. When I'd hear about it from them, it made me sad sometimes, especially if they were people who had wanted to wait till marriage but then changed their minds. Ultimatley, it was their life and they had to make their own decisions. Most of them that are now married have expressed to me that they regret their actions. One cousin of mine even got pregnant (when you're a strict Mormon, this is a huge thing to have a baby outside marriage) and it caused a rift in the family. I tried to maintain love and compassion towards her and support her decision to give the baby up for adoption, but a few other family members, I felt, weren't so nice in their judgements and only worsened the situation for her. The bottom line for me is that I need to look to my own life and continue in my quest to be a better person, not worry about other people and what they're doing, regardless of whether or not I agree with their actions.
**Obviously you dont judge other people, but for arguments sake how do you feel about a person who had sex with someone outside the realm of marriage, and then got married to the person?
I think that each situation is different and has to be looked at accordingly. A couple that had sex before marriage and produced an "oopsie" pregnancy then got married because of it, I think, run a very high risk for a crappy marriage. It's good they are getting married in order to give the baby a mother and a father and a stable enviornment, but the reason for getting married is flawed, especially if the mother and father don't really love each other. If this is the case, the home life of the child will probably be characterized by a mom and dad that fights and argues and eventually divorces. However, if there is no oopsie baby, and it's just two people that have had sex then decide they want to get married, I think that this situation is better than a situation where those two people go on to have multiple partners and increase their risks with each one for an unwanted pregnancy or STD. At least these two people came to the decision they wanted to be monogamous and consecrate their union before the law and (assuming of course) before God. It's not the ideal route to take, in my opinion, for spiritual matters, but it's better than the route that involves risky behavior that could lead to potential STDs or unwanted pregnancies.
TA DA!
Submitted by Lisa (user info) at 2003-12-24 14:05:10 EST (#)
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Submitted by reallybored (user info) at 2003-12-24 09:28:43 (#)
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"Lisa - You are the most angry person that i have the pleasure of not meeting. Do you have alot of friends?"
No, by choice.
"I find it hard for people to be around a person like you and not contemplate murder atleast once or twice."
A person like me? What exactly am I like? I guess I forgot about the time we hung out, and I told you all about myself, and you got a feel for my real personality. Whatever you say, shitface.
"Normally im not like this, but i have seen your (this) horrible attitude on a multitude of posts. Lightening the fuck up."
Lightening? Where?
I am fucking awesome, I'm sorry that you do not have the pleasure of understanding this. I am not surprised, however. It takes good taste and insight to like me.
Merry Christmas, moron.
Submitted by reallybored (user info) at 2003-12-24 09:36:04 EST (#)
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Somethingswronghere -
"I want to be able to tell him i am pure, and clean for him"
So if you have sex with him 5 minutes before marriage you are "unclean"?
"people who get married in front of a JP, or at a town hall, whatever... i dont really consider that a marriage"
So an atheist cant get married?
"i dont want that image when my guy is putting on his condom!"
Um...this could be a problem.
"i'm all for sex... doing it WHEREVER and WHENEVER you can, as OFTEN as you can, any way you can think of..."
I can still do that with a girlfriend.
"but if they are devoted to you, and do not cheat, you should have the safety of not getting anything you didnt know about when you married the guy/girl. no, "
Being monogamous has the same benefits....
Submitted by El_Guapo (user info) at 2003-12-24 09:32:43 EST (#)
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""Submitted by Quartermain (user info) at 2003-12-23 20:28:37 (#)
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**marriage is just a word,it is how society perceives it that causes this uproar.**
No, it's not. Marriage is an institution ordained by God. What is causing this uproar is that a majority of society no longer recognises this and is having to deal with the resultant problems.
**marriage,honestly, means nothing. if your in love, it should make no difference whether you are married or not.**
This is just stupid. It betrays either naivete or ignorance, one of the two.""
"marriage" is not a religious concept, as in the concept of two "mates" bonding, hopefully for life. non-judeo-christian cultures do it. pre-christian cultures did it. some animals even do it. marriage as we see it today, IS a religious "institution", but only because we made it so. the desire to spend all or some of your life with another is ingrained in the human psyche. what is causing an uproar is the fact that the religious types want to make a natural human behavior their "turf", and also do not like sharing their "turf" with others, such as the law.
am i against marriage? nope, i was engaged not too long ago. was it important to me to officially be married? no, it didn't matter to me either way, but it was important to her so that was fine.
Submitted by reallybored (user info) at 2003-12-24 09:28:43 EST (#)
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Lisa - You are the most angry person that i have the pleasure of not meeting. Do you have alot of friends? I find it hard for people to be around a person like you and not contemplate murder atleast once or twice. Normally im not like this, but i have seen your (this) horrible attitude on a multitude of posts. Lightening the fuck up.
Anyway, what the fuck is Ubersite about but giving your opinions on subject? I pulled up a topic and gave my view on it, if it bothers you dont read my posts. Simple as that. You wont be missed.
Submitted by slyphter (user info) at 2003-12-24 05:51:28 EST (#)
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well, if you wait to have sex till your married and you get a severe case of herpes, at least you don't have to worry about spreading it.
Submitted by somethingswronghere (user info) at 2003-12-24 00:02:01 EST (#)
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note: i am one of those girls who wants to wait... and i am a crhistian... but lets get on with the "debate" folks.
i see both sides to the issue. All have been brought up in precise language, and not so precise. people want to fuck, and there's nothing we can take away from that. Hell, I want to fuck. but i know in my heart i want to wait for the one guy that i can give him something no one has had. I want to be able to tell him i am pure, and clean for him. I would also like it if he was as well, but thats what forgivness is for.
Marriage:
a hot topic, but what most of you are forgetting is that it is a RELIGOUS "event." people who get married in front of a JP, or at a town hall, whatever... i dont really consider that a marriage. When you get married, it is in a church, with a pastor, reverend, (insert religious leader here). it is a sacred thing. it also should be a thing that you are ready for. if you are ready to get married, you are ready. there is no before. yes, there is a high rate of divorce, because people want to get married because they "love" the person... but are you IN love, or ON love. you may truly think you do... but i firmly believe that you should live together. not sleep together, before marriage. this lets you learn about the person. Maturity is needed for marriage. you need to know what the person is like without you there. or with you there. you need to know about how they deal with problems not relavent to the relationship, even though it ultimatly is.
Abstinence because they teach you it in school:
no, of course not. While i believe schools have a fairly competent program in place (i know some dont) but when i was shown HOW to put on a condom by a Female Jewish Gym teacher, and all the types of condoms, lubes, ETC, on her FINGERS it pretty much what made me want to be abstinent. i dont want that image when my guy is putting on his condom! ugh... still have nightmares...
"would you go to the superbowl without practicing?":
no... but i would go to my husband. why do you think they are there? i'm all for sex-books, etc. why not learn with your husband/wife. there is no room for being afraid with the one you devote your life to. i'm all for sex... doing it WHEREVER and WHENEVER you can, as OFTEN as you can, any way you can think of... as long as you are married.
what about the std's?:
yes, you can still get an STD from your married partner, but if they are devoted to you, and do not cheat, you should have the safety of not getting anything you didnt know about when you married the guy/girl. no, abstinence untill marriage will not abolish STD's, HIV, etc. These things will always be with us, and it is a part of our human culture now.
ok, enough of my rant... flame away.
Submitted by Lisa (user info) at 2003-12-23 23:18:32 EST (#)
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"Im just saying that I dont agree with it and i gave some reasons why."
You don't AGREE with it? Who gives a shit whether or not you AGREE? Sex is different from other issues in the sense that it's private. Who says, "Oh, you're waiting till you're married to have sex? I don't agree with that." That's right, no one, because the person you'd be talking to wouldn't give a damn.
"If you want to wait, go for it. It doesnt bother me one single bit. Like i said, i roomed in college with a guy wanted to wait and we great buddies."
You're speaking like a racist trying to deny his hate for Asians. "Asians don't bother me one bit. I roomed in college with a Chinese guy, and we great buddies." Of COURSE it doesn't bother you one bit that your roommate wanted to wait. It has nothing to do with you. I'd imagine that, if you were disturbed by it, it would be because you either wanted to get in his pants, or are simply an illogical person. I think it's understood that no straight man gives a crap about any other straight man's sex life.
What is the point of this nonsensical rant? Is your girlfriend a strict Catholic?
Submitted by reallybored (user info) at 2003-12-23 21:09:00 EST (#)
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Wow, Lady_Emily_03 excellcent job. Im really speechless. Its very rare for a person to present their points so well, and without having to take jabs at the other side. However i do have a couple questions.
Has any of your friends had sex before marriage? If so, did that cause any problems between you two?
Obviously you dont judge other people, but for arguments sake how do you feel about a person who had sex with someone outside the realm of marriage, and then got married to the person?
I hope everything works out for you.
Submitted by Bellebrown (user info) at 2003-12-23 20:47:20 EST (#)
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lololol "Specifically AIDS/HIV, unwanted pregnancy, and other STDs" - Pregnancy is classed as an STD? Ok, I think I agree with that.
As for the rest of it, I really do think that there are a few ways you can be classed as married nowadays. Buying a house with someone is almost there... its a contract between two people for the next 25 years at least. Most don't enter into it unless they're in love...
The same with Children. Lifetime committment (unless its the STD variation of getting pregant).
As for the whole ordained by God argument - OK fair enough... but that doesnt really stand up for the non-religious majority that only set foot in a church to get married.
Marriage in the religious sense is no longer the norm now is it?
Im religious - I was supposed to wait until marriage and was quite upset with myself for moving in with someone before I got round to it.
All in all, if Im honest - I dont want to get married - Ive seen couples together for ten years and they get married only to get divorced or something. Its like they see it as a guarantee of someone being there and stop trying with each other.
Id rather not take it for granted... and as my wise old mum said to me "Laura - you've got a mortgage, you might as well be married. In fact, you've got more security in that than a flimsy bit of paper signed by a Reverend that likes boys".
I wish I had waited to sleep with him... but hell, what Ive done in the past makes me "Me"... and if I hadn't slept with other people, I wouldnt be so clued up and fanfuckingtastic in bed now.
I will leave you with that little blow of my own trumpet and wish you all good luck in your own sexual endeavours. Play safe now kiddies... mwah!
Submitted by Quartermain (user info) at 2003-12-23 20:28:37 EST (#)
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**marriage is just a word,it is how society perceives it that causes this uproar.**
No, it's not. Marriage is an institution ordained by God. What is causing this uproar is that a majority of society no longer recognises this and is having to deal with the resultant problems.
**marriage,honestly, means nothing. if your in love, it should make no difference whether you are married or not.**
This is just stupid. It betrays either naivete or ignorance, one of the two.
Submitted by bob (user info) at 2003-12-23 20:20:26 EST (#)
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The reasons for waiting to have sex are foolish at best.
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so true.
marriage is just a word,it is how society perceives it that causes this uproar.
marriage,honestly, means nothing. if your in love, it should make no difference whether you are married or not.
Submitted by Lady_Emily_03 (user info) at 2003-12-23 20:17:50 EST (#)
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My turn to throw in my two cents...
I for one am waiting to have sex till marriage for a number of reasons. Emotionally, physically, and spiritually I don't consider myself ready to handle the utmost sacredness I consider the act of sex to be.
Emotionally I'm not yet prepared to express myself in such a way, regardless of how much I think I love or care for a guy. I figure by the time I'm emotionally mature enough to be married to the right person at the right time and the right place, I'll be ready to have sex.
Physically I'm not secure enough to show my body openly to a member of the opposite sex. I'm not overweight, I'm not freakishly skinny, but I'm in no way secure enough to be prepared to reveal myself in the buff. INsecure? A tad, yes, but I also figure that that insecurity will wear itself away as I grow up and become ready to take on marriage. In addition to that, I don't want to put myself at risk for something like an unwanted pregnancy or venereal disease. The chances of developing a VD are not as high if sex is practiced only with in the bounds of marriage. Granted, it could still be a possibility, but the odds are much lower if one limits themselves to just one partner in their lifetime, as I plan to.
In the spiritual sense, I think I am the most rooted in my decision to wait till marriage to have sex. I want to be able to look my future husband in the eye and tell him I saved the one thing I could only give once for him. I want to be able to tell him that I kept myself pure and held off on intense physical intimacy to honor him. Religion of course plays a role in this, as most everyone on this site knows, I'm a practicing Mormon and wholeheartedly beleive in the doctrines of my church. The power to procreate and give life reflects how man has been created in God's image and has been given a God-like power to create. That act is so sacred, to me, it should be reserved for marriage.
Now, I most likely will be slammed for this reasoning, but I hope people on Ubersite can still understand why I have chosen to save my virginity till I'm married. I try not to judge any people on this site and their sexual endeavors; I don't know any of you personally, what you do is your business, this is just my opinion and these are my beleifs.
There, there you have it. The case for waiting.
by the way, I didn't bother to read over more than a few of the replies to this, I just mostly saw opinions that didn't consider waiting to be of importance.
Thank you, that is all.
Submitted by whataefag (user info) at 2003-12-23 17:53:30 EST (#)
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OK, so if I wait to get married to have sex with just one person ... oh, wait ... no wonder I'm so fucked up.
Submitted by potatomanjack (user info) at 2003-12-23 16:38:58 EST (#)
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Having sex is like playing a two person video game. It's a lot more fun when you're playing with someone you like.
I don't know how much sense that makes but it's almost quitting time and I've got a hell of a headache coming on.
Submitted by xLisaCatx (user info) at 2003-12-23 16:06:36 EST (#)
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Sex is only meaningless to a nymphomaniac.
Submitted by El_Guapo (user info) at 2003-12-23 15:33:38 EST (#)
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"Submitted by Jeriko2k3 (user info) at 2003-12-23 14:57:26 (#)
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I used "lol" to laugh at myself. Sorry if it upset you regulars.
I didn't say sex after would wipe out all STD's, I said almost all. Big difference. "
because married people NEVER cheat........
""I don't think people should live together before they are married. As I stated six months is enough time to find out one way or another. This of course is my opionion currently. Having had a sex life in my teenage years and now being without one, my opionion more than likely will change. Yet, I will not have sex with another woman for at least 6 months to a year. Sex isn't a big important leap for me. It will only cloud the issue of compadiblity. Men face it, if a woman gives you a good fuck on your 3rd date. What are you really thinking about on the 4th date and so on. And when she asks if you and her should live together (let's be honest, how many men ask the ladies) we think, "All right more sex for me.""
i was with my ex-fiancee for a year and a hlaf before we cohabitated, and trust me, things were VERY different afterwards. but we learned to be happy together. after living together for about 2 years and being together for 3.5, i proposed to her. then she turned into a psycho. i've known plenty of people that were "absolutely in love" until a few months of living together. of course building a relationship first is always better, but marriage is not a requirement to be committed, or to love.
""That should give you some insight into me. I'm not stupided enought to think that everyone will wait. Not everyone can. And I know in my heart, I won't wait till I'm married again. Sex is like a drug, once you've had it, you crave it. And I am going through some horrible withdraws right now. Pity me it's been seven months. I will not have meaningless sex, and if she dumps me because I won't have sex with her early on in our relationship, then I'm a better person for it.""
sex outside of marriage is not "meaningless sex". i would not consider the sex i had with my ex of nearly 6 years "meaningless". i think a better definition of "meaningless sex" would be more along the lines of sleeping with your new neighbor 3 hours after you met.
Submitted by reallybored (user info) at 2003-12-23 15:14:11 EST (#)
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Quartermain - Oh. My bad. Sorry for coming off alittle harsh. My apologises.
Jeriko - You know it is possible for two people to live together and not have sex. Personally i think it would be a HUGE mistake to get married and not live with the person first. No matter how much time you spend with someone you dont really know them until you live together. There is shit that you have to see from the insides.
"Men face it, if a woman gives you a good fuck on your 3rd date. What are you really thinking about on the 4th date and so on."
I have to disagree on that. Some many are like that (i think women refer to us as pigs), whiles others are not. Its a completly depended on the guys maturity level and outlook for the relationship.
"Look all I was saying is if you build up a relationship first and introduce the sex second, you will have a more meaningful relationship."
I 110% agree with this statment. You need to have a meanigful relationship first, but i dont think meaningful translate into marriage.
"Sex is like a drug, once you've had it, you crave it."
HAHA. Thats why theres masturbation.
Submitted by Quartermain (user info) at 2003-12-23 15:05:56 EST (#)
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**Nowhere in my article did i condemn or say i was intolerant of people who want to wait. Im just saying that I dont agree with it and i gave some reasons why.**
I was speaking of society at large, not you specifically. This post was fairly reasonable and well thought out and generally devoid of the hysteria that can accompany a subject like this.
Submitted by Jeriko2k3 (user info) at 2003-12-23 15:03:08 EST (#)
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Not to get into a Religious debate. But that is the point. Things can only be black or white. If they are gray then what is the point in being "religious."
How about this, if there was a fence with sharp pointy wooden arrows, and if you were to sit upon that fence, one of these arrows would be forced into your anus (I know that's kinky for some of you), wouldn't you choose to be on one side of the fence, since grass is softer than a sharp pointy wooden arrow?
Submitted by Jeriko2k3 (user info) at 2003-12-23 14:57:26 EST (#)
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I used "lol" to laugh at myself. Sorry if it upset you regulars.
I didn't say sex after would wipe out all STD's, I said almost all. Big difference.
I don't think people should live together before they are married. As I stated six months is enough time to find out one way or another. This of course is my opionion currently. Having had a sex life in my teenage years and now being without one, my opionion more than likely will change. Yet, I will not have sex with another woman for at least 6 months to a year. Sex isn't a big important leap for me. It will only cloud the issue of compadiblity. Men face it, if a woman gives you a good fuck on your 3rd date. What are you really thinking about on the 4th date and so on. And when she asks if you and her should live together (let's be honest, how many men ask the ladies) we think, "All right more sex for me."
Look all I was saying is if you build up a relationship first and introduce the sex second, you will have a more meaningful relationship. And if it doesn't work our, at least you didn't give a part of yourself to that person. Everytime we give something away and it isn't mutual, we lose a part of ourselves. I know that is sappy, but it's very true too. Think about the one that got away. I'm not saying that you will eventually regret and wish to never have had sex with a person. But you would be a much wholer(sp?) person.
My marriage failed because my wife didn't try at it. It had nothing to do with our sex life. But everything to do with the relationship. She knew who I was before we got married, we had dated for three years, and likewise I new who she was. The difference is I excepted her before we got married and she never excepted me. Took me almost seven years to realise I was nothing but a paycheck to her and the father of our child.
That should give you some insight into me. I'm not stupided enought to think that everyone will wait. Not everyone can. And I know in my heart, I won't wait till I'm married again. Sex is like a drug, once you've had it, you crave it. And I am going through some horrible withdraws right now. Pity me it's been seven months. I will not have meaningless sex, and if she dumps me because I won't have sex with her early on in our relationship, then I'm a better person for it.
Submitted by reallybored (user info) at 2003-12-23 14:56:21 EST (#)
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I feel really bad for the snake in the picture.
After the act hes gonna be really SALTY!!!
(Get it? Its a pun. Salty like mad, salty like cum...ok shut up nevermind, asshole)
Submitted by reallybored (user info) at 2003-12-23 14:44:48 EST (#)
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It's funny how our society has changed in just the last fifty years. Now the guy or girl who waits for marriage is seen as more of an aberration than they guy dressed as Marilyn Monroe. Lisa has a point. We're told we need to tolerate all these other forms of sexual 'expression', why not sling a little tolerance to the people who decide not to?
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Not to make a blanket statment, but this is a way of arguing that i think religious people pull all the time. For you its either black or white, never grey. Nowhere in my article did i condemn or say i was intolerant of people who want to wait. Im just saying that I dont agree with it and i gave some reasons why. If you want to wait, go for it. It doesnt bother me one single bit. Like i said, i roomed in college with a guy wanted to wait and we great buddies.
Submitted by Quartermain (user info) at 2003-12-23 14:38:19 EST (#)
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**What does it matter to you if some people decide to wait till marriage?**
It's funny how our society has changed in just the last fifty years. Now the guy or girl who waits for marriage is seen as more of an aberration than they guy dressed as Marilyn Monroe. Lisa has a point. We're told we need to tolerate all these other forms of sexual 'expression', why not sling a little tolerance to the people who decide not to?
**it seems to me that if you marry someone you can trust and with whom you can feel very comfortable, you can ultimately override sexual problems. That's part of a marriage, working through problems; if you aren't ready to handle the challenge, you shouldn't marry in the first place.**
This is a good point too. Think of it this way...have you ever done something completely right the very first time you attempted it? Learning to walk, you fell down a lot at first, but got better. Learning to read and write, same deal. And nobody becomes Dale Earnhardt their first time behind the wheel of a car.
I think for a lot of people, waiting is a religious thing. I've had my share of co-ed sleepovers, but when I became a Christian, that was something I felt had to go. So now I wait. It's not easy, but it is what I know has to be done.
Submitted by reallybored (user info) at 2003-12-23 14:34:23 EST (#)
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Thanatos - As a greek, who dated a greek, and hung out with alot of greeks i think that i have yet to meet one that is waiting for marriage. Thats why i singled them out. However i have met regular college kids that did wait. I roomed with one for awhile.
LisaCat - Way to see through my little trap. The force is strong with you.
Jeriko - Ok first off never start a reply with LOL. Just some advice.
"Think about it. If (I know this will never happen) everyone of our children, not us, waited until they were married until they had sex that would almost wipe out all STD's in the world."
What? Did you take biology class? If a baby is born with AIDs getting married doesnt change that. Maybe your trying to say, if a person is in a MONOGAMOUS relationship the CHANCES of STDs are lowered?
"I don't want to here any shit about, well how am I supposed to know the other person if I don't live with them."
Are you also promoting that people dont live with each other?
Submitted by Jeriko2k3 (user info) at 2003-12-23 14:31:40 EST (#)
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For the picture
Submitted by Jeriko2k3 (user info) at 2003-12-23 14:28:18 EST (#)
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and I wish I had listened to my english teacher when she said learning to spell can be fun.
Submitted by Kristen (user info) at 2003-12-23 14:28:04 EST (#)
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Hahahahahaha, loki. I was about to say something similar.
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2003-12-23 14:25:38 EST (#)
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"lol"
(cringes)
Submitted by Jeriko2k3 (user info) at 2003-12-23 14:22:30 EST (#)
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lol I'm probably the only one who will give a negative on this one. Think about it. If (I know this will never happen) everyone of our children, not us, waited until they were married until they had sex that would almost wipe out all STD's in the world. I waited till I got married before I had sex, I was married at 20, and now at 27 I'm getting a divorce lol. Not because of lack of sex or how bad it was (I've only been with the one woman,) but because she didn't attempt to try at the relationship.
Why do most relationships break up? Is it the sex, I would dare say in 95% of all cases no. It's because there is an incompadiblity issue. One that you don't need to find out with sex. If you really like a person sex can get in the way. Sex brings up a whole lot of emotions within us, that some of us can control and others can't. It does bring us closer to the other person, since we are sharing ourselfs completly. This is a great thing, but it makes the break up that much harder and more painful.
So next time, both parties should attempt and work on the relationship first, and after you get past that sicking puppy dog "oh he/she is so _______" phase. You and her/him (I guess him/him and her/her works here also) can find out if you work as a couple or not. I don't want to here any shit about, well how am I supposed to know the other person if I don't live with them. If you date someone with "OPEN EYES" for at least six months, you'll know what type of person they are.
Listen to your friends also, friends have a way of seeing things you can't, nine years later I know wish I had listedend to mine.
Let the punishment commence.
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2003-12-23 14:16:23 EST (#)
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**Husbands should be like Kleenex: soft strong and disposable.**
Submitted by xLisaCatx (user info) at 2003-12-23 14:13:48 EST (#)
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"What defines lesbian sex?"
Sex between two women.
Submitted by Thanatos (user info) at 2003-12-23 14:13:31 EST (#)
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Who's Against it?
Frat guys, sorority girls, most college students, most high school students, a shit load of people, me
Maybe next time you can just say 'college students' instead of singling out Greeks. We're no different from other collegians just because we're in a fraternity or a sorority. I'm getting sick of all the god-damned stereotypes.
Submitted by Mac (user info) at 2003-12-23 14:12:50 EST (#)
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reallybored,
Mac - That is something interesting you bought up. If you're gay and waiting for marriage you could be in for a looonng wait.
I'm confused. You think I'm gay? or did you mean "you're" as in "anyone in general"? For the record, I'm not gay. However I love gay humor... and gay sex. Yeah, mostly gay sex.
Sorry, couldn't help throwing that in (I can't help it, it's funny). I'm not gay. I'll bone some chick and post pictures.
Submitted by reallybored (user info) at 2003-12-23 14:12:26 EST (#)
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You are starting to stray. I mean I guess I could just as simply ask you the question "Why not?" in response. (I know you're talking to my better half, the awesome Lisa, but us Lisas gotta stick together)
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Exactly. Both sides could say, "Why Not". But the reason i promote the Nike slogan JUST DO IT side, is because the other side forces their agenda down my throat. Just type in the phrase 'sex before marriage' into google and you will see 100's of websites that promote sexual abstiance until marriage. Your will be hard pressed to find one that promotes it.
Another thing that bothers me is some of the "stats" used to prove this point. Here are some actually things i read on websites while researching this post.
"Scientific studies indicate that relationships that involve pre-marital sex fail."
--Science also shows that marriage itself fails. 50% is not the best of numbers.
This one was in response to what a person wrote in...."Though you cannot imagine it now, Chris, sometime in your future you will really regret having sex before you're married, if you should go ahead and do it. You are going to do what you want to do but just know, without a doubt, it is true that sex before marriage will hurt you inside."
--Thats a lie. Iv had my fair share of sex and im not married and i dont regret it at all. I do regret that one girl in senior year of HS, but i was really drunk.
"Sex outside of marriage is like playing Russian Roulette. You never know when the gun will fire or the person has an STD."
--STDs do not care about a marriage license.
Theres alot more but they start to get religious, and thats i topic i dont wish to go into.
http://www.new-life.net/faq605.htm
Submitted by El_Guapo (user info) at 2003-12-23 14:01:57 EST (#)
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""El Guapo- I actually said that just before I got it on with my only one night stand. I was all good to go until he was standing in my kitchen, then it suddenly felt very very weird, and I said, "WHOA! I've never done this!" You think that sounded like a line?? I bet it did.""
heheh probably. every single time i have had to stop them and say "Whoa, hang on a second. Let me get a condom"
sad really.
Submitted by xLisaCatx (user info) at 2003-12-23 13:59:07 EST (#)
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ReallyBored,
You are starting to stray. I mean I guess I could just as simply ask you the question "Why not?" in response. (I know you're talking to my better half, the awesome Lisa, but us Lisas gotta stick together)
I don't think there's anything 'special' with saving your virginity as a gift for someone, but then again I'm gay and must always be propagating the massive conspiracy Mac referrenced. *rolls eyes*
Submitted by reallybored (user info) at 2003-12-23 13:58:23 EST (#)
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Whats casual sex?
Its sex between two people not in a relationship. Just casual like.
My question is, what defines lesbian sex?
Submitted by xLisaCatx (user info) at 2003-12-23 13:54:43 EST (#)
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What the hell is Casual Sex? Is that like sex in khakis?
Submitted by reallybored (user info) at 2003-12-23 13:52:27 EST (#)
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Lisa - I agree that bad sex can be overcome, but my question still is why wait? If your in love with somebody does it matter that theres a ring or not? I dont at all. I think many of the organizations that promote this do so because of the risks of sex being unwanted pregnancy and STDs. But if your monogamous and you use protection you just as safe as a married couple (moreso if they dont use protect).
Sex is definatley not the most important part of realtionship. But i honestly believe that is a crucial part. Once you have sex with somebody you care for, there is a change.
Mac - That is something interesting your bought up. If your gay and waiting for marriage you could be in for a looonng wait.
Submitted by IndianOcean (user info) at 2003-12-23 13:45:31 EST (#)
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lisa.. i love you.. this is my forth day on weeed.. =)
Submitted by Kristen (user info) at 2003-12-23 13:45:16 EST (#)
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Ahhhhh, I was kissing this guy and thought, "Ok, I'm going to do this!"
I whispered against his lips, "I NEVER do this..."
And he laughed. Then he tried to slip his hand up my shirt.
And thus my record remains unblemished.
Submitted by xLisaCatx (user info) at 2003-12-23 13:41:58 EST (#)
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There really isn't anything to argue with on this topic, just lots of funny comments/stories.
Submitted by Natophelia (user info) at 2003-12-23 13:36:13 EST (#)
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Poor Shay.
El Guapo- I actually said that just before I got it on with my only one night stand. I was all good to go until he was standing in my kitchen, then it suddenly felt very very weird, and I said, "WHOA! I've never done this!" You think that sounded like a line?? I bet it did.
Oh well. I'm not big on sex THAT casual, but I had to try it once.
Submitted by El_Guapo (user info) at 2003-12-23 13:26:02 EST (#)
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""I kind of define sex as, "Something between 2 people that ends in an orgasm." So to me, holding hands=sex""
oh man, we are so gonna get married. that way we can do it, and there is no way i could not please you!
Submitted by Lisa (user info) at 2003-12-23 13:24:55 EST (#)
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I see no point in attempting to change others' sexual habits (or lack of). What does it matter to you if some people decide to wait till marriage? The argument that it's better to wait may have its origin in religion, but regardless I think there are fairly strong logical arguments supporting the cause. If I end up not having sex till I'm married, I highly doubt that it will destroy my marriage. That idea stems from the huge emphasis society places on sex. Perhaps the real problem in a situation like that is an underdeveloped relationship between the marriage partners. I'm going to get all Seventh Heaven on you now, but really, it seems to me that if you marry someone you can trust and with whom you can feel very comfortable, you can ultimately override sexual problems. That's part of a marriage, working through problems; if you aren't ready to handle the challenge, you shouldn't marry in the first place. Sex is no doubt important, but it is not the center of the universe. The obsession over it and most of the anxieties related to it are a result of messages sent directly or indirectly through the media. You might claim that my arguments are a result of my virginity and naivety, in which case, I'll retort by calling you a puppet of the controlling forces of Western society.
Submitted by Shay (user info) at 2003-12-23 13:22:17 EST (#)
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Wow, I wish i could get an orgasm holding hands..
Submitted by Shay (user info) at 2003-12-23 13:20:52 EST (#)
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You would salivate if you saw me. I don't look like any of those ugly uber chics.
Submitted by El_Guapo (user info) at 2003-12-23 13:20:03 EST (#)
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"I have never had casual sex."
every chick i've ever had a one-night stand with has said "You know, I NEVER do things like that."
which means either:
a) they're lying and they don't want to sound slutty.
nah can't be that, must be:
b) i'm so damn irresistable they absolutely had to have me. that sounds about right!
Submitted by GodChicken (user info) at 2003-12-23 13:18:27 EST (#)
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Submitted by Shay (user info) at 2003-12-23 12:48:58 (#)
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THINK THIS IS ONE OF TEH MOST STUPIEDST POST IVE AV3R R3AD!11!!1 OMG WTF LOL WHO CAERS WUT PEOPLE THINK ABOUT IT AND WHO CAERS WUT U THINK ABOUT IT11!1 PAOPLE R GONG 2 HAEV SEX REGARDLES WTF IS THEIR 2 DISCUS11!1 COM3 UP WIT SOM3THNG BT3R ASHOL3!!11 OMG WTF LOL
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This chick fucking WINS. My god, can you imagine what a winner she is in person?
I wouldn't fuck this with a whole BAG of stolen dicks!
Silly asshat, Horse Dix aren't for chix!
Submitted by Kristen (user info) at 2003-12-23 13:16:09 EST (#)
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Ok, Shay. While you're getting that tissue bring me some ice-cream. That's the last time I'll reply to you on RB's post. I'm not going to encourage you to wipe your ass all over his post.
Mac,
I thought that was a good point. But I guess people could get by that on a technicality, as what constitutes "sex"? There are so many variations now and the definition has been sort of blurred. I would venture to say that some might consider lesbian sex foreplay and so on...I kind of define sex as, "Something between 2 people that ends in an orgasm." So to me, holding hands=sex.
Submitted by xLisaCatx (user info) at 2003-12-23 13:15:34 EST (#)
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Mac, I hope your comments were meant in jest...
I have met abstinent gays before, and while they are generally still in the 'closet;' they are still saving themselves until 'marriage.'
The campaign for sexual awareness and absitnence until marriage is to prevent that which no 15 year old girl wants to receive along with her report card - a baby.
Of course there are going to be some miscommunications in sex ed, but I would say that even though the 'abstinence' they preach isn't right per say, the classes still get some VERY important messages across.
Submitted by Mac (user info) at 2003-12-23 13:11:07 EST (#)
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isn't it supposed to be "mostest"
Submitted by Shay (user info) at 2003-12-23 13:10:17 EST (#)
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MOST STUPIDEST!
Submitted by El_Guapo (user info) at 2003-12-23 13:09:21 EST (#)
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""Submitted by Shay (user info) at 2003-12-23 12:48:58 (#)
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I think this is one of the most stupidest post i've ever read. Who cares what people think about it, and who cares what you think about it. People are going to have sex regardles, what the fuck is there to discuss. Come up with something better asshole.""
ahahahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
"most stupidest" ahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa!
way to go, tard!
Submitted by El_Guapo (user info) at 2003-12-23 13:08:12 EST (#)
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"Submitted by Kristen (user info) at 2003-12-23 12:33:02 (#)
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I need to find the source, but a report was done on sex education in Texas, which found that teenagers were not using condoms because they'd been told they caused cervical cancer.
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Then those kids were wayyyy too fucking stupid to be having sex. That is the most moronic thing I have heard all week. (It's only Tuesday, I'm sure this will be bumped down to #6 by the end of the week.) I mean, really. What if those kids had bred? Multiplied? It's scary."
trust me THEY ARE. i went to highschool here, we had a special classroom for the pregnant girls. it was so, so sad.
Submitted by Shay (user info) at 2003-12-23 12:59:24 EST (#)
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Oh, Kristen, let me shed a tear because you don't like my comments, hold on, i'll be right back, have to grab a tissue...
Submitted by Mac (user info) at 2003-12-23 12:58:29 EST (#)
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reallybored,
Hmm...you want an arguement eh? What about gay people? They wouldn't be able to have sex ever, since they can't get married. I think that the whole abstinence thing is just to deter kids from being future homosexuals, which appartently is a burden on our society, unless they're funny like Will and Grace. Think about it. Most middle aged people (at least in the south anyhow) would gladly see their children grow up to be miserable, depressed, self loathing virgins rather than happy cock suckers. I'm pretty sure it's all a conspiracy to prevent homosexuality.
Your thoughts.
Submitted by Kristen (user info) at 2003-12-23 12:55:56 EST (#)
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Shay,
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Wow, that takes guts.
Wait, let me rephrase that.
Wow, that takes a complete lack of brains.
Submitted by IndianOcean (user info) at 2003-12-23 12:51:07 EST (#)
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Submitted by xLisaCatx (user info) at 2003-12-23 11:32:20 (#)
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Despite the fact that it's too late for me to be saved, I think the concept of not involving sex in a relationship early can avoid certain 'problems.' (Not neccessarily physical)
I remember my first experience, and while I was vehemently opposed to pre-marital sex, I said "What the fuck, you only live once."
Been a oinkin' and a boinkin' ever since.
i love this girl lisa...
good post.. fuck away..
Submitted by Shay (user info) at 2003-12-23 12:48:58 EST (#)
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I think this is one of the most stupidest post i've ever read. Who cares what people think about it, and who cares what you think about it. People are going to have sex regardles, what the fuck is there to discuss. Come up with something better asshole.
Submitted by GodChicken (user info) at 2003-12-23 12:43:22 EST (#)
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Kristen, Kristen..
I've told you, Look up some tickets, and I'll fly you on out.
Life will be palm trees, rum and cokes, tequila shots, and.. drunken break-the-bed sex.
It's al about those "family" values, isn't it?
Love,
Cousin Chicken.
Submitted by txyankee (user info) at 2003-12-23 12:40:09 EST (#)
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sounds good, i got a couple of buddies comming up from texas as well, and i will bring manfree
and jmg114 as well.
-Alan
Submitted by Kristen (user info) at 2003-12-23 12:33:02 EST (#)
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I need to find the source, but a report was done on sex education in Texas, which found that teenagers were not using condoms because they'd been told they caused cervical cancer.
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Then those kids were wayyyy too fucking stupid to be having sex. That is the most moronic thing I have heard all week. (It's only Tuesday, I'm sure this will be bumped down to #6 by the end of the week.) I mean, really. What if those kids had bred? Multiplied? It's scary.
Submitted by reallybored (user info) at 2003-12-23 12:31:56 EST (#)
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Kristen honey, thats a vein.
It has been awhile hasnt it.....
Submitted by reallybored (user info) at 2003-12-23 12:31:20 EST (#)
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"Wen it's been almost a year since the last man-induced orgasm...yeah, I'm beginning to wish I could just DO IT, for God's sake. "
WOW. Thats a long time. You really need to find a guy who you can booty call every once in a while. Nobody should have to go that long. Worse comes to worse, you only live like two states away from me. I think i have a weekend or two open in Janurary. Pen me in.
LisaCat - I had one relationship that was based on sex and it went down the tubes pretty hard. I think everybody should have one, its fun, and you learn alot. About the japanese thing: From what i read infideitly is a huge problem because couples there dont have alot of sex. The average is once a MONTH. Most couples apparently marry for many reasons besides love. I think this is why many young Japanese women are staying at home and concentrating on friendships and not marriage.
Alan - I will be up for new years but i doubt i will be able to hang out. The first night i get in, im suppose to be driving out east to go this house which will serve as the New Years partyplace. I might however go and see my friends band play in the city. If that happens i will go and give you a buzz and we can meet up or something.
Submitted by Sunny (user info) at 2003-12-23 12:29:07 EST (#)
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Serious 2 cents from me too:
The only person who's business it is what goes on in my bedroom is me, and whoever/whatever I choose to spend my time with.
The reason I get so pissed off at the abstinence movement is because it makes idiots out of schoolchildren.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/ac2/wp-dyn/A19148-2003Jan20?language=printer
Quote from the article:
Many teenagers said that with the limits on teaching, and with parents who are uncomfortable discussing sex in detail, they learn much of what they know from experience. Some young women here, under the mistaken belief that they can get pregnant through oral sex, refer to their children as "spit babies."
I need to find the source, but a report was done on sex education in Texas, which found that teenagers were not using condoms because they'd been told they caused cervical cancer.
Submitted by Kristen (user info) at 2003-12-23 12:29:05 EST (#)
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I Juat noticed that in the picture you can see the caveman's urethra. What is up with that? Did cavemen have clear penises?
Submitted by txyankee (user info) at 2003-12-23 12:23:41 EST (#)
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Good idea matt, lets go back to A.C.
are you still comming up for new years?
-Alan
Submitted by xLisaCatx (user info) at 2003-12-23 12:12:03 EST (#)
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"In Japan the problem has reached epidemic levels as many young women wait so long that it has begun to upset the fragile Japanese economy."
Isn't that due to the overtly large amount of infadelity goin on over there?
Submitted by scaryaaron (user info) at 2003-12-23 12:08:55 EST (#)
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Ok, then I lose.
And no Loki. I don't watch the Amazing Race. I think "reality" television is so far from reality that it only makes the people invovled look foolish. Just my opinion though. My wife happens to love it and is consequentialy addicted to that show as well as Survivor.
Submitted by Kristen (user info) at 2003-12-23 12:07:57 EST (#)
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Serious two cents:
I have never had casual sex. One guy I was with for almost 4 years, the other guy I was with for about 6 months but was friends with since diapers. Basically this is the first time in my adult life I've been single and I'm enjoying myself immensely.
With that said, I made a decision a few months back to sort of 'live it up' or whatever. When push came to shove, I couldn't bring myself to have sex casually. It's not in my nature, and that's okay.
So basically, I sort of straddle the line. I definitely haven't had a problem with having sex before marriage. But I can't just go home with some guy and do it, either.
Wen it's been almost a year since the last man-induced orgasm...yeah, I'm beginning to wish I could just DO IT, for God's sake.
Submitted by xLisaCatx (user info) at 2003-12-23 12:05:42 EST (#)
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"Wainting to have sex until marriage would make the event much more "special" and meaningful."
Then you realize that no one can please you better than yourself and stick to masturbation. Enter the sexual drought of marriage and copious amounts of lube.
I can't speak for anyone else on the subject, but I don't base or revolve ANY of my relationships around sex. I got burned on that a LOOOONG time ago. ( I think everyone does at some point or another )
Submitted by Natophelia (user info) at 2003-12-23 12:02:40 EST (#)
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Wait wait...can I be the girl who has all kinds of overly romanticized ideas about waiting for sex? I'll try, but it probably won't work very well.
I belive one should wait for marriage to have sex. My body is a special gift, and I will only give it to the one man who loves me enough to deserve it. Sex is...
Oh goddamnit The Lady That Cries All The Time is crying again. The gag factor in that combined with the gag factor of what I'm trying to write is just too much!
Oinky boinky
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2003-12-23 12:01:06 EST (#)
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You don't think a honeymoon is pressure? How about this, does anyone but me watch The Amazing Race? There was a couple on there who had been dating for 12 years and were very very proud of the fact that they were virgins. That's right 12 YEARS! As the show progressed and they spent more and more time together, they were not getting along. They ended up splitting up at the end. 12 YEARS only to find out that you're not compatible. I'm just saying here that if you wait for 12 YEARS then that first time, yea unbelievable pressure. These things have to happen naturally. I'm not saying to hop in the sack with everyone who looks at you twice, but please. Did I mention that they had been together for 12 YEARS?
There are guys I've known for 12 years that I have not had sex with, that is what you call a platonic relationship not a boyfriend.
Submitted by reallybored (user info) at 2003-12-23 11:59:53 EST (#)
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If you are truly in love then there would be no pressure that Loki mentioned
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Do you have to be married to be truely in love? I think not. Im sure Loki could attest to this.
I applaud your attempts are helping me try to start a debate, but as well all know this concept is wrong.
Its like trying to debate if Hitler was a nice guy or not.
Submitted by El_Guapo (user info) at 2003-12-23 11:59:27 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
"Submitted by reallybored (user info) at 2003-12-23 11:48:29 (#)
Ranking: 0
Is there anybody here that's waiting till marriage?
::crickets chriping::"
ME! ME!!!!
*cough*
what?
ok, i'm lying.
Submitted by GodChicken (user info) at 2003-12-23 11:56:58 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
I'd take the side of the "wait" people simply for the sake of arguement, but I'm in complete agreement with you.
Fuck.
I think that's the 1st time that has happened.
must.. not..
FUCK YOU!!!!
You dirty man whore, you just want to plow the field with your man-tool!
Laying pipe
Parking in her garage
AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaaaaaah
*sob*
I need to get laid.
Submitted by scaryaaron (user info) at 2003-12-23 11:53:54 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
Ok RB....even though I agree with you on this one I will argue the other side in order to try and start a debate. Let me think for a minute......
Wainting to have sex until marriage would make the event much more "special" and meaningful. If you wait until marriage then you have already made a conscous decision to live and in some ways work with one certain person. If you are truly in love then there would be no pressure that Loki mentioned. Perhaps our society places too much importance on the role that sex plays in our relationships and in our day to day lives.
How did I do for making up an argument?
Submitted by reallybored (user info) at 2003-12-23 11:53:45 EST (#)
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I dont mean to lurk my own post so bad, but some of these comments are fucking golden.
"I have never been done so poorly before or since."
Damn girl.
Alan - I think so. But what you should do is go out and practice hard and then bang that hooker again. Show her how much youve improved.
Submitted by Sunny (user info) at 2003-12-23 11:51:30 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Waiting until LOVE is the ideal, but hormones, especially amongst the young'uns, can fool you. I lost my virginity at 17 and I'm still pissed off at the ass who deflowered me. That's for another post, I suppose. :-)
Sophomore year I crushed HARD on this guy for months, we were great friends and he made me laugh. I'm a firm believer in a sense of humor as a sexual attractant. Anyway, I go over to his place one night, we're hanging out, he makes his move...yikes. I have never been done so poorly before or since. That was the end of THAT. Sex is a deal-breaker...I'd rather not find out on my Honeymoon that my husband was worthless in the sack.
+2 for that picture.
Submitted by txyankee (user info) at 2003-12-23 11:51:00 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Hey matt, I was saving myself. but then i paid for a hooker at Ubercon....Whoops!
I can still be born again, right?
-Alan
Submitted by reallybored (user info) at 2003-12-23 11:48:29 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
Is there anybody here that's waiting till marriage?
::crickets chriping::
Submitted by reallybored (user info) at 2003-12-23 11:43:07 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
STOP REPLYING YOU HORNEY FUCKS! I want a discussion, and debate even. But apparently Uber is full of sex manaics. Look at the girls for christ sakes. Oink and boik, uggand and buggad. You people make me sick!
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2003-12-23 11:41:06 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Can you imagine the enormous amount of pressure this whole waiting thing would put on that first time? Sex should be spontaneous and natural not forced like this. Terrible terrible idea.
Submitted by El_Guapo (user info) at 2003-12-23 11:41:04 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Final Thought:
Would you go to the Superbowl without practicing first?
Submitted by jinx (user info) at 2003-12-23 11:40:32 EST (#)
Ranking: 1
You gotta test drive the car before you buy it or <insert lame analogy here> because you may have a "one-minute man" or someone who hasn't a clue. I'm a firm believer in no sex untill love ....
or a bottle of Maker's Mark.
Ha ha just kiddin'. but really - it's better to give up the goods to those who deserve it and make us feel good about ourselves than to whatever penis of the night buys us drinks at the bar.
Submitted by potatomanjack (user info) at 2003-12-23 11:40:20 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Waiting until your married really doesn't make any sense to me. You want to find a partner that you are compatible with, and sex is definitely an area where compatibility is important to a relationship. I think that couples should wait at least a while before making the two headed beast, but at the same time, when I was getting into my last relationship although we both thought waiting for a month would be a good idea, we only made it about a week and a half.
Sex is fun, waiting for marriage isn't.
Submitted by Natophelia (user info) at 2003-12-23 11:40:13 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Sex good. Ugga bugga.
Submitted by reallybored (user info) at 2003-12-23 11:34:07 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Been a oinkin' and a boinkin' ever since.
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OH man. that was great.
+2 for that.
Submitted by Kristen (user info) at 2003-12-23 11:33:36 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
I'm Pro Wait Until You Have Your First Orgasm and Then Tell Me to Wait Till I'm Married, You Nosy ShitFace.
Submitted by xLisaCatx (user info) at 2003-12-23 11:32:20 EST (#)
Ranking: 1
Despite the fact that it's too late for me to be saved, I think the concept of not involving sex in a relationship early can avoid certain 'problems.' (Not neccessarily physical)
I remember my first experience, and while I was vehemently opposed to pre-marital sex, I said "What the fuck, you only live once."
Been a oinkin' and a boinkin' ever since.
Submitted by SpikeGoddess (user info) at 2003-12-23 11:30:48 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Agreed on all points = +1
The phrase "little crab guys" = +.5
The picture = So disturbing, but +2
SpikeGoddess
Submitted by sublime (user info) at 2003-12-23 11:29:25 EST (#)
Ranking: 1
aside from religious organizations, I think this waiting thing is just to stop multiple partners. I also think that with so many people pushing that shit, it encourages people to get married just for the sex, which might explain the high divorce rate. I'm not 100% sure about what i have said, because I don't have any stats/facts to back it up with.
but, if i have sex with a girl when i'm 16, get married, stay together and die together, will any of them would have told me to wait?
Submitted by KoolMang (user info) at 2003-12-23 11:29:24 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Oh god...that picture is GROSS.
I agree with you there, RB. But I'm not
waiting till marriage to have sex. I'm waiting
for a girl to come along who won't fuck me
over within a month. As in, a GOOD girlfriend.
"Intergalactic Superstatic!"