Tit for Tat (940 hits)
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Submitted by Shay Brown <ShayBrown03.at.hotmail.com> (View user info) at 2004-01-12 13:27:34 EST
Brazil is requiring all American Citizens that enter the country to be fingerprinted and photographed. This process, that started January 1st, takes about 45 minutes and has had 8 hour delays. Brazil is not requiring other countries to go through this process, only American Citizens. My thoughts are, if we can do it so can they, but they are only doing this to Americans, we are not doing this to only Brazil. And our process doesn't have 8 hour delays. I'm sure people are going to shit all over this post. That's okay, but for those who don't, I'm interested to hear what you think.
http://www.cnn.com/2003/WORLD/americas/12/30/brazil.usa.immigration.reut/
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Submitted by THE.GREAT.GOATSE (user info) at 2004-01-21 16:17:42 EST (#)
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What? No tits or tats? Damn
Submitted by Shay (user info) at 2004-01-21 14:10:18 EST (#)
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Submitted by Loren1 (user info) at 2004-01-16 13:53:06 (#)
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"I know I'm late, and forgive me if someone else said the same thing, but here goes:
This BS "tit-for-tat" move on Brazil's part won't last, because Americans travel and spend more money than anyone else in the world. Of course it's their right to finger print whoever they want, but I no longer would consider going there for a vacation, and I am sure I'm not the only one.
The all-mighty American dollar that will be held back by boycotters far more traveled than I will end this pissy "retaliatory" action once and for all.
And I'd bet you a buck on it. "
Definitely, I completely agree with you.
Submitted by Loren1 (user info) at 2004-01-16 13:53:06 EST (#)
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I know I'm late, and forgive me if someone else said the same thing, but here goes:
This BS "tit-for-tat" move on Brazil's part won't last, because Americans travel and spend more money than anyone else in the world. Of course it's their right to finger print whoever they want, but I no longer would consider going there for a vacation, and I am sure I'm not the only one.
The all-mighty American dollar that will be held back by boycotters far more traveled than I will end this pissy "retaliatory" action once and for all.
And I'd bet you a buck on it.
Submitted by Random Joe at 2004-01-13 23:17:07 EST (#)
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Good on Brazil.
I read a Brazilian post elsewhere that part of the Brazialian constitution involves a "reciprocity" law, hence why the visa costs rose when the American bumped up their price.
I can't believe the hypocrisy that says "How dare Brazil do this to US citizens?", but at the same time they defend America's fingerprinting requirements.
The defense given is usually "But we aren't isolating Brazil". By not making them part of the 26 nations the feeling seems to be that they have been isolated.
If it bothers you so much don't visit Brazil. I'm sure numerous people won't visit the US for the same reason.
Submitted by Robert_of_Duluth (user info) at 2004-01-12 16:50:47 EST (#)
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good topic
Lets just put an embargo on Brazil, since they dont trust american things. Then lets see what happens.
Submitted by Ducky at 2004-01-12 15:03:51 EST (#)
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You're right, your process doesn't have 8 hour delays, sometimes it is much longer.
Submitted by Shay (user info) at 2004-01-12 14:44:03 EST (#)
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RB-Holding grudges isn't good. You take things too seriously. You are right though, this has absolutely nothing to do with me, I could care less, I don't think I will ever go to Brazil, but I think it's interesting to share. I also did read that Brazil is pissed because we are not doing this to England, Ireland and other countries with fairer skin. But I don't think Brazil shouldn't be doing things just because they're a little mad, because like I said before, if they need us for anything ever, I'm pretty sure Bush will them to go fuck themselves.
Submitted by reallybored (user info) at 2004-01-12 14:39:11 EST (#)
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My thoughts are, if we can do it so can they, but they are only doing this to Americans, we are not doing this to only Brazil.
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There is also a bunch of countries we ARE NOT doing this too. Canada, England, and acouple others i cant remember. Brazil is pissed off that we choose their citizens as ones that could be terrorists. (That why we are doing this whole fucking thing.)
And BTW, what the fuck has this have to do with you?!
(You said the exact same thing to me on a post i wrote last week about gays.)
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2004-01-12 14:37:59 EST (#)
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Maybe it's all part of a master strategy to decrease immigration by pissing off every single country in the world. If that isn't enough, now Dubya has his eye on the moon and Mars too.
Submitted by Shay (user info) at 2004-01-12 14:27:10 EST (#)
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I don't think they realize what they're ultimately doing to themselves. If they ever need us for anything now, I'm pretty sure we're going to give them a big fat FUCK YOU. They can stand in line behind Germany and France.
Submitted by tuesdaydelay (user info) at 2004-01-12 14:20:52 EST (#)
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So what? Brazil's full of crack-whores.
Submitted by Quartermain (user info) at 2004-01-12 14:13:53 EST (#)
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Its usually these half-assed third world countries that try and pull this kind of crap. I don't know who they think is going to care.
'Oh no, my life is over because I've been minorly inconvienced by some bureaucrats' well, you've struck your blow against America haven't you? Forget terrorism, making people wait in line...that what sends a message to the White House.
Its too bad the IRA hasn't realised the awesome power of the petty bureaucrat.
Submitted by Shay (user info) at 2004-01-12 14:12:35 EST (#)
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Ouch. That's crazy.
Submitted by Insanethemind (user info) at 2004-01-12 14:03:18 EST (#)
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How did I move? VERY VERY painfully.
And this was after a few days of "recovering" before I could fly home.
Submitted by Insanethemind (user info) at 2004-01-12 14:02:21 EST (#)
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No, I was thrown from an all terrain vehicle onto the street, with no shirt on.
http://www.ubersite.com/m/7570
Submitted by Shay (user info) at 2004-01-12 13:59:23 EST (#)
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Why burnt? No sunblock? How did you move?
Submitted by Insanethemind (user info) at 2004-01-12 13:58:06 EST (#)
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Shay,
I had to wait for a flight for about 12 hours there once, with equivelant of 3rd degree burns over about 20% of my body (mostly my back- road rash), no painkillers and a huge backpack to lug around.
8 hours? pahhhhhh!
Submitted by MickGinny (user info) at 2004-01-12 13:55:31 EST (#)
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Submitted by IndianOcean (user info) at 2004-01-12 13:53:49 (#)
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i love brazil chicks.. rest i don't give a fuck about. the nice olive skin colorr..grrrr
goes good with fava beans ayy indian?
Submitted by IndianOcean (user info) at 2004-01-12 13:53:49 EST (#)
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i love brazil chicks.. rest i don't give a fuck about. the nice olive skin colorr..grrrr
Submitted by Shay (user info) at 2004-01-12 13:51:53 EST (#)
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I'm not suprised either, and I don't think we Americans should be ignorant enough to have a how dare they attitude, but I do think they're doing it out of spite. It's only being directed at us. I'm just glad I have no plans to go there in the near future. I'd be pissed if I had to wait around in their airport for 8 hours of my vacation!
Submitted by Insanethemind (user info) at 2004-01-12 13:51:23 EST (#)
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Lisacat,
I'm not surprised, you're talking about the most dangerous city in the western hemisphere. Two guys I met got mugged at knifepoint there, in a language they did not understand, for some McDonald's food.
Submitted by xLisaCatx (user info) at 2004-01-12 13:46:52 EST (#)
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Last time someone I knew went to Brazil, they got mugged and nearly killed in Rio for simply being Caucasian and wielding US Passports.
Submitted by glam_daddy (user info) at 2004-01-12 13:43:30 EST (#)
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I think its a bit petty, but america needs to be bitch slapped like that now and again.
Submitted by quack (user info) at 2004-01-12 13:41:38 EST (#)
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how silly is that? sort of petty if you ask me, but all in all, i bet it benefits their economy. jobs provided by fingerprinting etc. and revenues from high visa prices might help their poverty-stricken country out a tad.
Submitted by Insanethemind (user info) at 2004-01-12 13:37:57 EST (#)
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They have reciprocated in other matters as well, Shay. I visited Brazil in February 2003 and had to pay a $100 visa application fee, something our government required of Brazilian citizens first.
$100 here, was about $350 there when I visited.
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2004-01-12 13:33:47 EST (#)
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I can't say that I'm surprised. If you think about it, they feel singled out with the new finger print business and how else are they going to strike back? It kind of reminds me of how quickly all those countries closed down meat imports from the US after that ONE mad cow incident. I sort of feel sorry for Canada now because they have to feel really stupid once the story came out about where it came from.
Always good to alienate entire populations of people.
Submitted by KoolMang (user info) at 2004-01-12 13:32:04 EST (#)
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This is coming from a hippy in hippyland Canada (glares at fingerbang).
Well, the situation is such that since America's making Brazilians entering the country to be fingerprinted and photographed, Brazil is doing the same out of revenge. I think we should all live in peace and understanding, it's not that hard! Well, it is really. Peace comes from love of individuality, which would mean trends would have to be banned. Well corporations don't want trends to be banned, because it makes them money, such as Phat Farm, or School of Hard Knocks (?).