Goddamn Difficult "Logic" Problem (and Camwhoring) (1246 hits)
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Submitted by DrStrangeDhruv <bigdhruv.at.hotmail.com> (View user info) at 2004-01-21 16:06:45 EST
I need to employ the help of the prodigious Ubersite intelligentsia. Please, please, lend me your brains. This is driving me crazy.
"Consider a country in which people live in high buildings and buy things from street vendors, using some form of money. Each building is equipped with a pulley in the eaves over which runs a long rope with a basket on it, operable by either party. Is there a system by which a resident and a vendor who don't trust each other can conduct trade? Note that either party may plan to play the opposite role with someone else later."
???
I'm stuck! Thus far I've tried incorporating standard logic, regular third-grade Gaussian logic, abstract solution, randomness, Game theory, praying to inanimate objects in the hope of appropriating some sort of enlightenment, 'Ip-dip-dip My-blue-ship', ritualistically stripping down and chanting ghazals whilst prancing totemically in a fixed locus around my laptop, and several other thus far fruitless endeavors in the way of gaining access to that Eden of joy that only solving a stupid, who-gives-two-shits internet problem can provide. Someone please explain this to me before I chop my balls off. Thanks.
And just so you all know I'm still sexy despite my inability to coherently solve cretinous, assmasticating logic puzzles, here's a shirtless picture. You know, for the ladies.
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Submitted by SPECIALk (user info) at 2004-09-19 21:48:02 EDT (#)
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One of them can jump in the basket and go to the other side. DUH.
Submitted by Electro (user info) at 2004-09-19 21:38:17 EDT (#)
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yea, this is repeative.
Submitted by AnnabelLee (user info) at 2004-02-10 17:42:18 EST (#)
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In the fourth and fifth grade "advanced students" program at my elementary school, we had to solve one of these every goddamn week. This has given me baggage. Thank you.
Anyway, I'm too lazy to read what everyone else has suggested, but I'm saying they just go talk to the streetvendors *in person.* You know, face to face contact, that sort of crazy thing.
Submitted by drstrangedhruv (user info) at 2004-01-27 10:12:14 EST (#)
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"Submitted by Lisa (user info) at 2004-01-21 16:33:10 (#)
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I hate logic puzzles.
You look like some kind of French cologne model.
Did you post this picture partially so that you might internally measure women's reactions to your appearance against women's reactions to Kaelic's appearance? I'm asking because there seems to be some sort of competition initiated by yourself. If the answer is yes, however, I suppose it's not something you would like to admit. "
I'd admit if I had initiated any contest, but I h-to-g hadn't. Check it up, it wasn't me.
Submitted by drstrangedhruv (user info) at 2004-01-27 09:25:56 EST (#)
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What? No, really.
Submitted by Kaelic (user info) at 2004-01-25 23:48:17 EST (#)
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You're still ugly. Stop sucking your cheeks in and go workout.
Submitted by Zeccs (user info) at 2004-01-21 23:28:37 EST (#)
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The vendor obviously just puts the item in the basket and lifts it half way up, and then the person buying it throws the money to the ground a short distance away from the vendor, so that in order for the vendor to pick up the money, he will have to let go of the rope, in which case the buyer can retrieve his item.
Actually, no that's the most bullshit answer ever, but hell, i came up with it in about 3 seconds.
Submitted by CaptainObvious (user info) at 2004-01-21 18:02:30 EST (#)
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Swik's answer seems right to me too.
Submitted by Cassiopeia (user info) at 2004-01-21 17:17:11 EST (#)
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for some reason it seems like you should be holding a razor in your hand complaining about how your plain ordinary shaver just doesnt do the job of a mach super duper macho man 9000XXX shaver
Submitted by Swik (user info) at 2004-01-21 16:56:10 EST (#)
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wow, I posted something and squattail didn't rip it apart. What the hell is going on. I know I thought to hard about the problem and my overworked peanut sized brain ripped a hole in the universe and I am now in some twilight zone thingy...or....not.
OoooH!!! PRETTY COLORS!!!!
<Runs away>
Submitted by KoolMang (user info) at 2004-01-21 16:48:29 EST (#)
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Bah. Intelligent puzzle-solving is not my style. If I was trapped in one of those riddle-nightmares, I would just masturbate myself to death. Nice pic, btw. I can tell that you're North Indian, they don't have tans, really, it's too damn cold.
Submitted by hotgaylove at 2004-01-21 16:47:11 EST (#)
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You're way hotter than Kaelic! That guy is fuckin' UGLY!
Submitted by squattail (user info) at 2004-01-21 16:37:28 EST (#)
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Then again, Swik is probably right. It makes sense, the length of rope on the pulley has a basket on one end, and nothing on the other, at the half point in the rope is the pulley wheel, where money can be attached to a clip. As the seller pulls one half of the rope, the basket on the other half (also at his level) lifts up, and the point where the money reaches the seller is the same point where the basket reaches the buyer. Then if the seller wants to grab the money and let go of the rope before the buyer can get the goods, the goods will fall to the ground and shatter. And since the buyer has no control over the rope, all they can do is take their goods, they cannot do anything to cancel the deal. That is a pretty good answer swik, and that is probably the correct one.
Submitted by Lisa (user info) at 2004-01-21 16:33:10 EST (#)
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I hate logic puzzles.
You look like some kind of French cologne model.
Did you post this picture partially so that you might internally measure women's reactions to your appearance against women's reactions to Kaelic's appearance? I'm asking because there seems to be some sort of competition initiated by yourself. If the answer is yes, however, I suppose it's not something you would like to admit.
Submitted by squattail (user info) at 2004-01-21 16:31:00 EST (#)
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Alright, so if the buyer and the vender can't be trusted, I think the answer is for the buyer to first send down an item of collateral, then the seller sends the goods up to the buyer. The buyer sends down cash payment. And the seller returns the collateral item. Now the only problem with this is that the seller may just keep the collateral item without sending up the goods or recieving payment, the collateral item may be worth more than the actual payment itself, plus he doesn't have to give away his goods. So the item would have to be something of personal value, but of no cash value. The best item I can think of would be a pet cat or dog, they are pretty much useless to anyone else, but to you they are worth enough not to accept goods from the seller without paying for them.
Submitted by Swik (user info) at 2004-01-21 16:27:08 EST (#)
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Well I am probably wrong as I have no clue about such complex problems but it seems to me that...
If the consumer at the top attaches his money in some way to the rope that is on the side of the pulley the basket is not, and the basket is at street level with the vendor then: The consumer can see into the basket and see the vendor place the desired goods in there. The vendor sees the consumer attach the money to the rope. As the basket and money are on different sides, when one side rises the other falls. Meaning that as the basket comes closer to the consumer then the money comes that much closer to the vendor, Meaning that they each recieve what they want at the same time. Whether it is probable, possible, or allowable to attach the money or goods to a part of the rope where the basket is not is beyond me, I do not pretend to be knowledgeable in such fields of problem solving, I doubt this is even the type of answer you are looking for. But if such a scenario is allowed then it seems that is a way to solve the problem. As if one side sees that they are being shortchanged then they can stop the progress of the pulley at will as it is stated that they each control the pulley. Maybe that works, it probably doesn't. But I like such problems and I am in a thinking mood, maybe that helped but I am almost 100% sure it doesn't. Feel free to mock me, I do it enough to myself :-D
Submitted by lucid (user info) at 2004-01-21 16:26:05 EST (#)
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Go work out.
Submitted by Fabish (user info) at 2004-01-21 16:24:04 EST (#)
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Welcome, comrade.
Submitted by Valacosa (user info) at 2004-01-21 16:19:41 EST (#)
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I like puzzles.
Well, I would teach the people in the building to WALK their lazy asses down to the street level. Problem solved.
Submitted by SpikeGoddess (user info) at 2004-01-21 16:17:12 EST (#)
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Yes, there's a system.
See how EBay does it.
You've got one prominent collarbone.
SpikeGoddess
Submitted by rubixxcube (user info) at 2004-01-21 16:16:07 EST (#)
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Use a pulley eschrow service. Where each person, and vendor incorporate a third person into the pully system. The third party should be trusted by both ends. You send the money to the pully eschrow and the vendor sends them the goods. When the eschrow has both he releases both parties either there money or goods. If neither party fulfills there end the pully escrhow returns items to the original person. Or just runs away with both.
I neither live in a tall building nor sell items to people that do, so i don't know, tell them to use a credit card to add protection and shop on the internet.
Rubixx
Submitted by Phinch (user info) at 2004-01-21 16:15:44 EST (#)
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wow. your eyebrows are bigger than your eyes.
hmmm. the vendor uses one building and the customer uses the other. the vendor puts merchandise in one basket and the customer puts the cash in the other. they both pull the stuff towards themselves.
Submitted by Insanethemind (user info) at 2004-01-21 16:15:25 EST (#)
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it's a reference to the film "Silence of the lambs", dhruv.
Nice brows
Submitted by drstrangedhruv (user info) at 2004-01-21 16:10:05 EST (#)
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Sorry, what?
Submitted by deadsnoopy (user info) at 2004-01-21 16:08:47 EST (#)
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It rubs the lotion on its skin or else it gets the hose.