Bring On The -2's (976 hits)
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Submitted by d_d (View user info) at 2004-03-01 14:07:05 EST
just to prove how retarded american foreign policy is, hear this;
they go to war and invade a country who they "suspect" to have weapons of mass destruction, or ties to terrorists, and also claim to be great liberators of the oppresses iraqi people.
yet a nation that fully admits to having a weapons program, and extravertently calls for the destruction of the United States, remains intact. North Korean children are being brainwashed into thinking that the only way world peace is possible is through the destruction of the United STates.
over 50% of children under the age of 7 suffer from premanent malnutrition..
so why the FUCK isnt America liberating these people? cause theres no oil in Korea, thats why. Why arent they removing a leader who they KNOW 100% has weapons of mass destruction, instead of going after one who they 'suspect' to have these weapons?
bc american foreing policy is pure bullshit, based totally on the intersts of a few greedy, rich white men.
take a look at the US military build up in the persian gulf starting in the 70's.. as soon as america knew they were going to be dependent on oil from this region, they slowly started to build up military bases encircling the area... they are ready to seize the area when ready.. America also has active troops and bases most notably in japan, south korea, afghanistan, the balkans, africa, now haiti, and not to mention their worldwide 'less-important' military activity. if thats not a form of imperialism, then i dont know what is.
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Submitted by Socialist_Joe (user info) at 2004-08-13 22:34:23 EDT (#)
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war is ________
can you fill in the blank?
look to the bottom for the answer
progress
Submitted by Ingsoc (user info) at 2004-08-13 22:23:22 EDT (#)
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You're not a very good poster.
Submitted by Dazd1 (user info) at 2004-03-04 12:49:53 EST (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by TheRef (user info) at 2004-03-02 19:24:28 EST (#)
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Submitted by hcp28 (user info) at 2004-03-01 14:23:31 (#)
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Of course let's take out N. Korea I can't believe we looked it over! How silly of us. Who cares if they are allies with China, who cares if China has the largest standing army in the world and WMD's to boot! Who cares if we were to invade N. Korea they would most likely rain nuclear choas on S. Korea thus initiating WWIII. Yahhh let's attack everybody!!
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Being stationed over here i "could" tell you what you don't want to hear and what will put you in your place. Since I value my career though, I will list only a googled source that may or may not be true.
http://carlisle-www.army.mil/usawc/Parameters/03spring/hodge.pdf -check out the bottom of page 81. Good stuff.
No one can speak on this subject unless they have actually been here. DDT knows the threat matrix. Kracka does also. All you have to do is come over here and ask any local korean how they feel and you will change your viewpoint on this subject.
Submitted by BigLee (user info) at 2004-03-02 18:40:22 EST (#)
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Fuck America fuck em up thier stupid asses.
Submitted by EvilZurr (user info) at 2004-03-02 16:44:58 EST (#)
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who cares?
Submitted by mikethescottish (user info) at 2004-03-02 15:14:17 EST (#)
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Sadly, governments will always act in self-interest, but I find it hard to believe that America simply decided arbitrarily to attack Iraq- it's not like they stood in front of a globe and deliberated over which country to bomb next! I'd rather not defend George W Bush though, I think he has concentrated too much on foreign policy, using a flimsy domestic pretext to mask economic imperialism, when really domestic economic and social issues are far more pressing. But hey, come November hopefully people will realise that a successful war does not make a successful politician. Just look at Margaret Thatcher.
Submitted by Nobb (user info) at 2004-03-02 15:08:01 EST (#)
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+2 just because this is pretty much true so shouldn't have a -2 rating.
I'd have -2ed it if it was positive though, spell out because man.
Submitted by Quartermain (user info) at 2004-03-02 12:19:56 EST (#)
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**nice try to discredit myarguement by pointing out a grammatical mistake.**
I think you do a pretty good job of discrediting your own 'argument' by sounding like that guy on the street corner who mumbles to himself and wears a tin foil hat. Plus, once you start making up words, the issue is not really 'grammatical mistakes' so much as it is 'lack of a grasp of the English language.'
Submitted by d_d (user info) at 2004-03-02 03:41:27 EST (#)
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well... you've cut me up on every post for the past 3 years, i figured your comments were derogatory.
its good to be back tho.. i think i'll stay a while.
Submitted by bart (user info) at 2004-03-02 03:36:54 EST (#)
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I didn't take anything out on you, I was just stating a point. You're a pretty sensitive guy, aren't you?
Submitted by d_d (user info) at 2004-03-02 03:35:14 EST (#)
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i hear your point.. you dont have to be a bitch about it tho.. just cause your mad at the world bart (which is most evident in your posts), dont take it out on me.
Submitted by bart (user info) at 2004-03-02 03:25:00 EST (#)
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You don't get it do you...
See, if a country doesn't have the capability to harm us, we can claim that they are endangering us and then invade and conquer without any real danger to our homeland.
However, if a country actually does have the capability to harm us, then diplomacy is the right way to go because even though we would now have a valid reason to invade, the political ramifications of having a nuclear weapon launched at California would be a bit much to handle.
Submitted by d_d (user info) at 2004-03-02 03:11:52 EST (#)
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the fct of the matter is, you dont know that. you talk as if you work for the state department or something.. and stop patronizing me with your history lessons.. anything youve said i already know to way deeper extent than you will ever know.. stop thinking you are so invincible..
Pearl harbour was disaster and so was 9/11.. dont think for a secongd that you are not suseptible to the same type of catastrophe... i pray it never happens.
i suggest you do some more research on Kim Jung Il and the DPRK.
Submitted by Lucifer_Industries (user info) at 2004-03-02 01:22:40 EST (#)
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Ok, imagine this, Korea wants to go to war with us. The reasons don't matter. They launch a huge attack and one of two things happens. They wipe America off the earth, or we stop the attack and wipe them from the face of the earth.
There existed a situation with the USSR called "Mutally Assured Destruction". This means that to even start the ball rolling for such an act of hostility would render both parties deceased.
I can't imagine that Korea would place themselves in the position of thinking that their country would be the survivor of such an act.
There will never be an act of hostility by the North Koreans towards the United States. Period.
Submitted by Confusion (user info) at 2004-03-01 21:40:19 EST (#)
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Okay.
Submitted by d_d (user info) at 2004-03-01 21:29:36 EST (#)
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quaretermain -
fuck you, youre a dirty, conservative, relgious freak who cant admit his country is fucked up..youre like so many yankees i know.. how can you deny that your country thinks that it is the god-appointed police of the world? nice try to discredit myarguement by pointing out a grammatical mistake. bitch. AD Hominen.. attack the person or his methods instaeda of the actual premisses. 90 fuckin perecent of the world would agree with me on this one.. why do u think that every other country regurlarly burns your flag? you know im right and cant handle it. the view i express is shared by numerous schloar, such as Chomsky himself. your opinion is crap.. go back to Waco and finish what your kinsman Koresh started.
BIlboa- whatever statistics u think u know are distorted. u think america would ever admit to being depenedent on something from a region in whcih it is hated? use your fucking brain.. the US and Saudis have been in each others pockets for decades.. the fact that they wouldnt attack Korea has nothing to do with the China factior, its about the bullshit hypocrsy which is displayed through american foreign policy.
TAKE A LOOK AT THESE NUMBERS.
http://www.csis.org/stratassessment/reports/usinvtrd.pdf
Lucifer - hahahah all those countries would "freak out on them" eh.. hhaha lol, Korea has already launched a missile over Japan to prove it can hit them any time.. dont be so fucking naive, and dont underestimate a dictator bent on hate.. no one imagined Japan attacking pearl harbour in 41.
"Bomb Us? Hardly" - what exactly is this bullshit claim of yours based on? im sick
Submitted by random steve at 2004-03-01 19:58:23 EST (#)
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communists
Submitted by Yes (user info) at 2004-03-01 19:57:00 EST (#)
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blahblahblah, go talk to the walls, maybe they will be able to tell you something that hasn't been posted a few hundered times.
Submitted by Biloba (user info) at 2004-03-01 19:46:38 EST (#)
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I hate stupid people.
1. We aren't going to attack North Korea because the capital of South Korea is within artillary range of DMZ. The have about 1,600 artillary pieces fixed in place that would kill
millions of South Koreans within an hour of any military action. That and the Chinese could intervene. If those two facts were changed, we would have already kicked North Korea's ass decades ago. As it is, there is no military option to the North Korean problem.
2. Only about 10 percent of the foreign oil America imports comes from the Middle east. We get most of it from Canada, Mexico, and Venizuala.
But rage on with your conspiracies about how the U.S. is only after oil, even though Saddam was willing to give us all the oil we wanted to avoid our attack.
Submitted by Lucifer_Industries (user info) at 2004-03-01 19:26:05 EST (#)
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You're thinking is not thought out.
Answer these questions for me.
Why would Korea attack us?
What would Korea do after they attacked us? (ie. what's the point)
What do they have to gain by attacking us?
Do you believe that they believe that by attacking us, they wouldn't just be handing over their government and country as their fall from power would be instantanious. The rest of the world would shit all over Korea. There is such a thing as self-preservation.
I'll answer my questions for you as I don't plan on turning this into a debate.
Korea would never attack us. Korea has nothing to gain by going to war with the United States. Korea is a piss ant nation.
After attacking us, Korea wouldn't do anything because Japan would freak out on them, China would freak out on them (and send troops) far quicker then the US would freak out on them. Their government would collapse under the pressure and South Korea would be crossing the border with every gun, stick and slingshot they could muster. North Korea is not asking for a civil war.
Korea has nothing to gain by attacking us. I said this already. They are on the other side of the world. They are like Iraq, they never showed to be a threat.
You and lots of other people in this country must stop the belief that America can just interfere with whomever we want to as if we have some kind of God given right to do so.
Malone
Lucifer Industries LLC
Submitted by Quartermain (user info) at 2004-03-01 18:45:36 EST (#)
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Whine whine bitch bitch.
P.s. 'extravertently' is not a word. Next time you feel like spewing incoherent diatribes, at least use actual words.
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2004-03-01 17:07:26 EST (#)
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Don't make me google this, but don't we have some sort of agreement to protect S. Korea in the event that they are attacked? Where is Drink, I'm pretty sure he knows this one.
Submitted by d_d (user info) at 2004-03-01 16:58:40 EST (#)
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why do you find it so hard to believe that korea couldt send a ICBM with a nuclear warhead? ya maybe one could be intercepted, but what if 6 were launched at the same time.. or what if one goes undetected? there are an exponetial amount of posibilities.
it is entirely possible. also, a determined, zealous enemy is the worst to have. one way or another, i can see n.korea tryin to do sonething at some point.
Submitted by Lucifer_Industries (user info) at 2004-03-01 16:25:14 EST (#)
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Somebody explain exactly what threat the Koreans pose to America.
NONE. They are no threat. Even if they had 100 nuclear warheads, what are they going to do with them? Bomb us? Hardly.
Malone
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2004-03-01 16:20:17 EST (#)
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oops, sorry bro
Submitted by maiorano84 (user info) at 2004-03-01 16:10:08 EST (#)
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You threw out some good ideas, but I think this topic has been killed entirely. It's nothing I haven't heard.
Submitted by d_d (user info) at 2004-03-01 16:05:06 EST (#)
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Bob, i define imperialism as a nation placing itself above all others (based on a beleif in a divine right - which Bush seems to think america has, with his numerous references to God and morality) and therefore feeling it has the right to go to any area of the world to pursue its own interests, and to better itself at the expense of others. (as did Britain, the mother of imperialism). i would also add to my defintion the idea of having 'control' over areas other than that of a states boudaries to secure resources (military bases in the persian gulf), or to have a military outpost in areas of intersts (as is Israel for the US in the mid east, and south korea/Japan in the pacific rim).
however, i would be in favor of an invasion of the n.korea, as they are increasingly becoming a serious threat to the US, which makes them a threat to myself.
i also have some great stories about my trip to san antonio, i will write'em probably tomorrow.
Submitted by William_Q_Percy (user info) at 2004-03-01 15:56:51 EST (#)
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+1 for the truth is this statement...
"North Korean children are being brainwashed into thinking that the only way world peace is possible is through the destruction of the United STates. "
Take that as you will...
Submitted by William_Q_Percy (user info) at 2004-03-01 15:56:08 EST (#)
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Submitted by loki (user info) at 2004-03-01 14:39:46 (#)
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dee dee you had better lay low. PMJ told us all how much oil there is in Canada and we have even figured out how to add in the 13 new stars on the flag.
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Loki... I thought you were supposed to be my little sister... you're confusing me with PMJ?.. I mean, I am honoured and everything, but are all Canadians really just so funny, smart and good looking that you get us all confused with each other?
Submitted by d_d (user info) at 2004-03-01 15:55:06 EST (#)
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hahaha jw, u know it.
Submitted by jwlmar10 (user info) at 2004-03-01 15:49:50 EST (#)
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Someone watched sixty minutes last night.
Submitted by PeopleAreStrange (user info) at 2004-03-01 15:46:50 EST (#)
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Have a 2 instead. America's government is full of belly rubbing hypocrite bastards.
Submitted by potatomanjack (user info) at 2004-03-01 15:31:27 EST (#)
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I don't think any of us actually thought that they went in for any reason besides the oil. The weapons and the dictator thing were just because they had to make thier bullshit smell like roses.
Submitted by Bob_Bank (user info) at 2004-03-01 15:23:51 EST (#)
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I'm getting a bit sick of having my country called imperialist. I do not believe America is Imperialist. An imperialist nation goes out and impresses itself upon other countries - like England. Or China. Yes America has imperialist tendencies, as does every country in the world, excluding my good buddies in Australia. If you do view America as imperialist please define how you view Imperialism.
Submitted by reallybored (user info) at 2004-03-01 14:55:25 EST (#)
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if you're too lazy to write out "because", you're a waste to society. Thanks for playing the game called Life!
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2004-03-01 14:39:46 EST (#)
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dee dee you had better lay low. PMJ told us all how much oil there is in Canada and we have even figured out how to add in the 13 new stars on the flag.
Have you been watching this Haiti business? There is a group of Aristide supporters who are claiming that the US kidnapped him to get him out of the country. I seriously doubt that but my god what a mess.
Submitted by Herpes (user info) at 2004-03-01 14:25:23 EST (#)
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Submitted by freebie (user info) at 2004-03-01 14:16:13 (#)
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It sure is imperialism. As you noted, America is not run for the people, by the people, anymore. Americans in general are too caught up in pursuing the dream of have it all, new car or bigger house, whatever. This takes money, which takes more hours at work and leaves less time for giving a shit what our government does.
I assume you're not american, and ask you, why the FUCK doesn't your country do something about N. Korea?
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His country isn't invading other nations and using the WMD and liberation of their people argument.
Submitted by hcp28 (user info) at 2004-03-01 14:23:31 EST (#)
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Of course let's take out N. Korea I can't believe we looked it over! How silly of us. Who cares if they are allies with China, who cares if China has the largest standing army in the world and WMD's to boot! Who cares if we were to invade N. Korea they would most likely rain nuclear choas on S. Korea thus initiating WWIII. Yahhh let's attack everybody!!
You sir are a retard.
Submitted by tuesdaydelay (user info) at 2004-03-01 14:23:27 EST (#)
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I thought this guy was one of Ubers merry clan of storytelling +2'ers.
Submitted by Nator (user info) at 2004-03-01 14:21:37 EST (#)
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Well, OK. I think. You could be a little more subtle.
Submitted by antluvdog (user info) at 2004-03-01 14:20:16 EST (#)
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It's not as simplistic as you make it out to be, but this portrayal is pretty accurate. It's a shame.
Submitted by freebie (user info) at 2004-03-01 14:16:13 EST (#)
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It sure is imperialism. As you noted, America is not run for the people, by the people, anymore. Americans in general are too caught up in pursuing the dream of have it all, new car or bigger house, whatever. This takes money, which takes more hours at work and leaves less time for giving a shit what our government does.
I assume you're not american, and ask you, why the FUCK doesn't your country do something about N. Korea?
Submitted by schmeltzy (user info) at 2004-03-01 14:10:20 EST (#)
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Just cause you asked for it. I actually didnt even read the post
Submitted by Tom (user info) at 2004-03-01 14:09:53 EST (#)
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Well yeah, that's what America's about!