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Submitted by TripinDayZ (View user info) at 2004-05-04 10:29:22 EDT
I have often wondered what I would do in this situation.
Plucked away from the people I love, to go serve a man I may or may not agree with, thousands of miles from my home, watching friends die at the hands of an enemy that is killing the very people that are there "to help them". Then, one day, working at a detainee camp, I am left alone with a son of a bitch who looks quite a bit like the guy who killed my cousin a week ago. There are many reasons why I should just let it be and let justice take its course. But this piece of shit is fighting in a movement that is killing my people. Will there really be justice? What is justice for this person?
I cannot say that I know how these soldiers feel because I have not been in their shoes.
I would like to think that I could remember the code of morality that was taught to me from day one of basic training. I would like to think that I would be able to put those guidelines above my own personal hatred for a man who would walk into my house, strapped to a bomb, and kill my entire family in Allah's name. I would also like to think that this chick is showing us the very thumb that she just stuck up this guy's ass.
Not sure of that last one but that would be excellent.
I'm bet I'm wrong on all three though.
What would you do?
I'd like to leave you with a quote from Brig. Gen. Mark Kimmitt, the coalition's deputy chief of operations,
"We are committed to treating all persons under coalition custody with dignity, respect and humanity,"
Well done.
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Submitted by kai070169 (user info) at 2004-05-06 16:47:39 EDT (#)
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"But this piece of shit is fighting in a movement that is killing my people"
If ANY country invaded the USA for any reason, what would ANY patriotic American do? This piece of shit is fighting - no, defending himself from what he believes to be a threat to his liberty. If the USA got out of Iraq, no more Americans would die.
Torture demeans the torturer as well as the victim. Proven as an inferior tool for interrogation, it's only real use is as an appeasement for frustrations of an unbabalanced mind. Think about it. Those soldiers will always have to hang their heads in shame now, they are now destroyed. These were weak and undisciplined individuals, and fault goes to them and their superiors who placed them in a position of authority over prisoners. It is just a sad event.
"Will there really be justice? What is justice for this person?"
Justice will come in the form of and end to hostilities, time, goodwill and forgiveness from both sides. I guarantee it will come, it may take time... we just need to get out of the way.
Submitted by ktcschick (user info) at 2004-05-06 16:40:58 EDT (#)
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lol @ shitfuck's comment... wal-mart... they got everything now, huh?!
Submitted by shitfuck (user info) at 2004-05-06 16:34:46 EDT (#)
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Very strong writing. Very. Strong.
And yes, I have had an attitude adjustment. They do them at Walmart now.
Submitted by ktcschick (user info) at 2004-05-06 16:29:47 EDT (#)
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+2 for making me think....
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Submitted by lojope (user info) at 2004-05-04 10:45:38 (#)
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But then I think about my son. What if he was kidnapped or something? Would I do whatever it takes to find out where he is? Hell yes. Even if I had to torture someone for information? Absolutely. What if someone killed him? Would I really be able to take the life of the person responsible? I believe I would.
So maybe anyone is capable of being completely inhumane to a fellow person. Maybe all it takes is the right circumstances. Maybe there is a little monster in all of us.
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I recently had to write an essay about an essay (i know, i know!) by Stephen King. It was primarily about why people like horror movies, but kind of touched on several subjects. Anyway, my point...
King said that everyone has a little "monster" inside them. A little pshyco. Horror films and other anti-social emotional stimulus (sick jokes, etc) feed this monster to sort of keep it at bay. I think, put into a situation like the soldiers in Iraq or a mother protecting her child, as lojope said, causes the moster to be stronger and more insatiable than it would otherwise.
I still would like to think I would be bigger than this... that I would NEVER do something that inhumane and degrading to another human being, but having never experienced it... who knows?
I know I'm gonna watch plenty of horror flicks to keep that damn thing satiated, though!
Submitted by someone (user info) at 2004-05-04 16:35:33 EDT (#)
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Submitted by lojope (user info) at 2004-05-04 10:45:38 (#)
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But then I think about my son. What if he was kidnapped or something? Would I do whatever it takes to find out where he is? Hell yes. Even if I had to torture someone for information? Absolutely. What if someone killed him? Would I really be able to take the life of the person responsible? I believe I would.
So maybe anyone is capable of being completely inhumane to a fellow person. Maybe all it takes is the right circumstances. Maybe there is a little monster in all of us.
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This is interesting, I believe we all have the capabilities, its just what it takes to make us snap, also, the consequences involved after committing a brutal crime also hold people back. There are too many crazy people in this world....
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2004-05-04 14:57:27 EDT (#)
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This is the primary flaw of don't ask, don't tell.
Submitted by Dufflady (user info) at 2004-05-04 11:06:43 EDT (#)
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Ok, the one on the bottom I'm thinking. (picture)
I can't really say what I would do in that situation. None of us can unless we have experienced it. But I have known a few soldiers who have experienced this war first hand and I can probably guess what they would do. They already take part in things I wouldn't dream of and this is the reason they are there instead of me.
Submitted by TripinDayZ420 (user info) at 2004-05-04 10:51:04 EDT (#)
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unfortunately i cannot repost this with the correct picture but here is a link to the one i was meaning to put up here http://www.cnn.com/2004/WORLD/meast/05/02/iraq.prisoner.reax/index.html
Submitted by Dufflady (user info) at 2004-05-04 10:47:56 EDT (#)
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Forgot that.
Submitted by Dufflady (user info) at 2004-05-04 10:46:47 EDT (#)
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I agree. Try again with the picture, although I was feeling what you are saying here.
Submitted by lojope (user info) at 2004-05-04 10:46:22 EDT (#)
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I meant to give you a +1, but since I fucked up have a +2.
Submitted by lojope (user info) at 2004-05-04 10:45:38 EDT (#)
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You bring up a really good point. I often think that even if I was supposed to or had to, I would never be able to torture someone. I always think you have to have a certain type of mentality to pull something like that off. Did you know that both mass murdurers and surgeons score the same on personality tests? It takes a special person to spend time elbow-deep in human flesh. I don't think everyone is capable of it.
But then I think about my son. What if he was kidnapped or something? Would I do whatever it takes to find out where he is? Hell yes. Even if I had to torture someone for information? Absolutely. What if someone killed him? Would I really be able to take the life of the person responsible? I believe I would.
So maybe anyone is capable of being completely inhumane to a fellow person. Maybe all it takes is the right circumstances. Maybe there is a little monster in all of us.
Submitted by hendrixjrr (user info) at 2004-05-04 10:41:49 EDT (#)
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Submitted by TripinDayZ420 (user info) at 2004-05-04 10:30:42 EDT (#)
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mother fucker.... wrong picture... oh well.