I really hate tipping. (4087 hits)
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Submitted by Fat Tony (View user info) at 2004-05-13 18:36:24 EDT
I go to restaurants a lot. Either with family or with clients or just to hang out with friends. I
hate the fact that servers think they deserve 20% of my bill. Suck my cock! That's worth 20%. My
state demands 8.5%. My God politely asks for 10%. Yet my wannabe actor server demands 20% or
more! Does the owner of the restaurant make 20% profit? Yet the fucking waiter who has an attitude
that he is better then everyone has the nerve to tell me how much he deserves.
Tipping a bartender? Oh yea, you'd better believe it! When you tip the guy behind the bar your
drinks are stronger and taller and every now and then he'll give you one "on da house". Tipping the
server at a club? Oh yea! Tip them well and they follow you around like a lost puppy dog. Your
drink is never empty, it's taller and stronger and you don't wait long. Tip the waiter at your
local restaurant? What do you get? A smile. How nice :)
A few days ago I'm at my local Italian restaurant with out of town family members. The bill comes
to $150 and the server had the balls to include $30 for his tip. I'm my own boss, my mother is dead,
my wife who sucks my cock on occasion don't tell me what to do. I have no boss. Yet this geek with
an attitude tells me he wants $30 for doing his job?
I walk up to pay the bill. I tell the manager that I don't agree with the included tip. I'm then
told that California state law is that the tip be included for parties of 6 or larger. State law?
I'm not paying it. Simple. Here's the buckfifty for the bill and here's a tenspot for the shitty
service.
Did I get anything for free? No.
Did you charge me properly. No. I had to correct the bill because you tried to overcharge me.
Did I get excellent service? No. I got attitude when I asked for clean silverware.
Was you polite to my guests (the people that support the restaurant)? No, you are an asshole.
Was my food at least served with a fucking smile? No. It was tossed at us.
You think you deserve 20 points? My fucking bookie who loans money only charges ten.
You are server. You are getting paid to work at the restaurant. They're not paying you? You only
work for tips? That's not my problem. The other tables who actually give a shit will support you
for the day. If your probation officer made you work there, then I'll listen to you bitch. But if
you walked in on your own, fuck off. Don't like it? Walmart is hiring.
Can you imagine going to buy a DVD player and there is a 20% tip included?
How about goint to buy a car? The car is 10K and with the tip..... 12K!
Post office? That's $20 for first class overnight shipping, with my tip that's $24 even :)
Next time a waiter includes 20% for his tip, tell him to fuck off. On a date? With clients? Fuck it.
Nothing shows balls like standing up for yourself. Chicks dig a guy who don't take crap. Clients
can appreciate sombody that wont be bullied.
FUCK THE WAITERS!
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Submitted by johnnyno (user info) at 2004-07-21 15:37:07 EDT (#)
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Submitted by nestorm4 (user info) at 2004-05-20 02:30:57 EDT (#)
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who gives a fuck! blah, blah, bull shit get off your ass, do something productive and stop complaining!
Submitted by phauna (user info) at 2004-05-19 04:11:46 EDT (#)
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Why doesn't the government just raise the minimum wage to something decent, and then tell everyone that tipping is no longer required as law, only for extreme good service. Most countries don't even have tipping, they just price the food accordingly. This is way better than stressing about tipping, and having all the waiters hate you. Working for commission also sucks arse unless it is on top of a decent salary.
Submitted by DavyJones (user info) at 2004-05-18 19:30:47 EDT (#)
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A lot of people seem to be way off track here. All Tony is saying you best do your job correct to get tipped. Never has Tony claimed they don't deserve a tip if they do their job. If you didn't do your job, would you be paid? Maybe a few times, but consistently? Razor, if for the next 6 months you didn't do your job, or only did 25% of your job, would you still have one? The next year?
Everyone has bad days. Customers are rude. Kids suck. Old people camp eating up valuable service time. These are simple facts of the business, but I do not care. When I go out to eat, I do not go in thinking "aww, poor waitress, I bet she is having an awful day, no matter how shitty her attitude is, I am going to tip her big" and neither do you. When you are in a service job, the people you are serving are your boss. Deal with it. Get over yourself, and your self importance about how bad your day is going, and do your job. If you cannot manage that, don't waste your time serving me, and send someone who can handle it to do the job; because I will not be leaving a tip for someone who doesn't do their job.
As the boss at that point in time, I do not pay employees who don't get the job done.
You are fucking stupid if you think being a waiter means you "deserve" a tip. Do you know why restaurants work through small wages + tips for people? This system was designed so that waiters would work harder, and thus earn better pay. The harder you work, the more you make. Sounds like a good setup for those willing to put the effort in. I know a waitress who brings in 50k a year off her GED education. If we went back to a system where you didn't tip, and the bill was raised I would be quite happy, so long as the waiter did their job the way it was intended to be done.
Submitted by mikethescottish (user info) at 2004-05-18 18:27:43 EDT (#)
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I work on a fish counter in a large supermarket chain. After i've finished working my ass off in university in the week, I spend my weekends gutting, filleting and generally doing some of the most, horrible, shitty work i've ever done. The customer asks for their salmon gutted, filleted and cleaned. I do it. Customer walks away. I am friendly, courteous and do exactly what they ask, to the best of my ability. No tip, very little thanks.
Nobody thinks that I merit any 'extra' money for doing my job. But it's not a part of our culture- at least, not to the same extent. If I was earning a pittance, depending on the goodwill of my fellow man to make a decent salary, i'd quit and go back to being a paintball marshal- bloody painful, but a reliable wage. You can't say that tipping is an extra bonus to 'servers'- it's the best part of their wage. I can almost relate to what you're saying, but to be honest, a little more empathy and a little less ignorance would do you a whole lot of good.
Submitted by Razor (user info) at 2004-05-18 13:34:31 EDT (#)
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I waited tables when I was younger.
godking, your math is way off, for a couple of reasons.
#1
You are assuming that a waiter walks into a shift and is immediately greeted by four tables just waiting for service.
The reality of the situation is that servers come in, have light work, then have a "rush" where they have a lot of tables in a short time, then it slows back down and they don't have as many tables.
At your typical Olive Garden type restaurant, a server will make $40 or so for a five hour lunch shift (which everyone except the most senior waiters have to do), $60-90 for a six hour dinner shift, and on the weekends maybe $125-250 for a 12 hour double shift.
Of course I know you're thinking that that makes it easy on them right? The managers take advantage of the $2.13 an hour to make servers roll silverware, clean the kitchen, do all kinds of shit.
I did that shit when I was young, and it is a fuck of a lot harder than any white collar job I've ever seen. The work is hard, you don't get breaks, and everyone you interact with for the most part treats you like shit.
#2
You fail to take into account "campers" or groups of people that just sit at a table long after their meal is done sipping coffee and bullshitting because they haven't seen each other in six months. Everyone does it, when I do it I leave a double tip because I am taking away the waiter's salary by doing so.
Also, when the cooks fuck things up, it can add another 15-20 minutes to a table. Do it three times in a night (not unusual) and you just lost a full table rotation.
When waiters get slammed hard during the rush, if anything goes wrong it can slow everything down and reduce the number of tables they are turning. This can vary a lot from restaurant to restaurant.
#3 The IRS audits any waiter automatically that claims less than 8% of their sales.
Waiters normally claim 10% of their sales, which adds up. An average waiter probably sells $250,000 a year or so, so they have to claim $25,000 in tipped income + wages. They do save on their taxes, but not as much as you think.
The simple truth of the matter is that if not for 15% tips, the cost of food at restaurants would go up by at LEAST 30%.
Submitted by FatTony (user info) at 2004-05-18 12:35:22 EDT (#)
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You are a hit whore. This post got a lil bit of action, and you are trying to "piggy back" (yes
pun intended) to get some hits.
Submitted by TripinDayZ420 (user info) at 2004-05-18 12:31:40 EDT (#)
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Submitted by polyamorousaj (user info) at 2004-05-18 12:25:42 EDT (#)
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You may think you're King Shit in a restaurant for a half hour, and you may sport a boner about it, but it doesn't change the fact that in the real world you're just a piece of shit. You're not original, you're not funny. You're just cheap. The fact that you're pissed about how much the tip was is funny considering how much food you ate. You shouldn't get so worked up over something like this. You'll give yourself a heart attack.
Submitted by FatTony (user info) at 2004-05-18 12:22:28 EDT (#)
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Powertrip? When it comes to comparing my fat ass to a lowly waiter, yeah it's safe to say I am on
a power trip. What other profession do people work, then beg for money? Besides Lawyers, Strippers
and Hookers?
I walk into a restaurant, I am the boss. I am King Shit for that 1/2 hour. My servant will serve me
with kindness and not show me how shitty of a day they are having or I will not bless them with my
money. I am King Shit.
The lowest form of life is a waiter or waitresss. Lawyers, Hookers, Dope Dealers are better people
then lowly food servers.
Submitted by Rokinroj (user info) at 2004-05-18 12:19:49 EDT (#)
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This whole back & forth with you is pointless. You're an arrogant cock sucker and you are so fucking full of your self that there is no way any kind of logic is going to make it's way into your fat fucking head.
Do the world a favor and just light your self on fire. I don't think anyone will miss you. Least of all the very people who have waited on you hand and foot to make you what you are today.
Rokinroj
Submitted by TonyMontana (user info) at 2004-05-18 11:36:01 EDT (#)
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Fat Ass Tony, get off your fucking power trip, man. I just read all that bullshit you said about you being "the boss." You're not the boss of shit. It's pathetic you feel such a sense of power over determining just how much change you dole out to some poor waitress. Well I guess years of social and professional impotence have left you with nothing else, so that's all you have to feel powerful about.
Now go hang yourself you filthy fat fuck.
Submitted by polyamorousaj (user info) at 2004-05-18 11:01:15 EDT (#)
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Cheap. For the amount of food you probably eat you should tip them for having to carry all of it you fat fucker. Those servers are going to suffer from arthritis to feed your swollen gut.
Submitted by munkeypants (user info) at 2004-05-18 10:43:31 EDT (#)
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sorry ... i am the worst when it comes to quoting...
Submitted by munkeypants (user info) at 2004-05-18 10:42:37 EDT (#)
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if you eat at the same establish more than once you can be assured, oh assholiest of the assholes, that you have eated either:
A. Semen
B. A Dishwashers Pube
C. Both
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHHA
AAAAAAA HAHAHAHAHAHA
i think i just pissed myself
Submitted by FatTony (user info) at 2004-05-18 01:49:53 EDT (#)
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Don't bother with this idiotic banter any more? THen cancel yor Ubermembership.
Submitted by Katia69 (user info) at 2004-05-18 01:27:17 EDT (#)
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Hmmm, fat tony, you smell. but you raise a good arguement. but like with everything, there is always more than one side to the story. i think everyone has made there point now, lets make peace and share a box of cookies...;-)
Submitted by Marc <dont bother> at 2004-05-18 01:09:49 EDT (#)
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first off- Its not about going out of your way to stiff a server.
Its all about the implied obligation on the servers part.
Also you mention it costing the server money?
I really think im done with this down syndrome circle of "is, is not" and finger pointing by left wing bleeding hearts.
I tip when they deserve it, and stiff them when they deserve it.Key word- "deserve"
the fact they are less fortunate and rely on tips etc is such shit for an arguement.
Im done, go eat some shit, spit in my food, do what you like if your a server and feel like I am going out of my way to spite you, but I wont be participating in this idiotic banter any longer.
-Marc
Submitted by FatTony (user info) at 2004-05-17 22:33:42 EDT (#)
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Rokinroj "Now you've actually ended up costing the server money" You stupid muthafucker. Your
father should have squirted you on the wall you useless retard. If that was true, the server would
do a much better job, because if I stiff him, it will cost him money.
Know why I don't do 90 on the freeway? It will cost me money.
Know why I don't cheat on my wife? It will cost me money.
Know why I don't hit some people in the face? It will cost me money.
If my not tipping costs the server money, they will do a better job to please me.
FUCK ALL WAITERS!
Submitted by Arla (user info) at 2004-05-17 21:53:56 EDT (#)
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Servers get a tip if they give good service.
If they don't, they get fuck all.
Tip - means extra - optional - not obligatory.
I agree with you 100%
Submitted by Rokinroj (user info) at 2004-05-17 21:49:43 EDT (#)
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AKMagnum there is a major problem with your scenario...
Figure into that equation that you make far less than the state minimum wage justified by the fact that tip that normal people will leave will cover the difference. Also figure that you will be taxed on an average tip of 15% by out friends the feds at the end of the year, regardless of how much you actually made.
Now you've actually ended up costing the server money just because you feel like they deserve what they get for choosing that job?? I guess I just don't get it. Why go out of your way to fuck someone over?
Rokinroj
Submitted by AKMagnum (user info) at 2004-05-17 20:46:12 EDT (#)
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Fat Tony, you are the man. I just talked to some friends and a teacher of mine about this a couple days ago, and it sucks. No one I know pays 20%, that's crazy... But still, any tip at all is asinine. Jobs give you paychecks for a reason. Choose one: tips or paycheck, but don't expect to get paid twice for the same damn job. Shitty or excellent service, doesn't matter, you get a paycheck at the end of the week. Hypothetical: I'm a shoemaker, working for a shoemaking company. I make a damn sweet pair of shoes (let's say made of diamond-studded chrome, cuz that would just be badass), and you walk in and try 'em on. "Hot diggity damn! These are the best, most comfortable shoes in the world!" Yet you give me the price of $50. I busted my ass for hours making those shoes the best things out there, and you liked them. Where's my god-damn tip? Who cares? I knew the job was dangerous when I took it, Fred. I knew what the job entailed, and did what was expected of me to earn my share of the fifty dollars. I'm not going to be a selfish, greedy prick and demand more money. I'm going to go blind when I'm fifty now from working with so much detail. You might have achy feet at the end of the night. My job's harder, yet I get no tip. Stop being a greedy bitch and wait for your share of the damn bill.
I'm the customer, you should be tipping me for giving you a friggin' job. Come to think of it, next time I go to a restaurant, I'm going to demand that the waitperson give ME the tip.
Submitted by LambofGod (user info) at 2004-05-17 20:44:20 EDT (#)
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"Stiff a server? I never really stiffed a server, I always leave something. A tip is something I
feel the server deserves. Not something you tell me you deserve. Who the fuck are you and where
did you come from to tell me what I should give you."
Point.
Submitted by Marc <dont bother> at 2004-05-17 20:30:00 EDT (#)
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I agree with Tony, with the quote from RD and with the countless others that dont give a rats ass abotu servers.
Whiles its unfortunate that the server, single mother blah blah blah cry me a river cant make ends meet without her tips, fuck her.
Get a real job , get an education. The whole rest industry in general is chock full of people with absolutley no measurable talent or value.
Hello, please bring me a burger and fries......oh and plase bring a bottle of catsup with you.
Fuck them and thier tip. Its not rocket science. They dont DESERVE shit. If servce is good then they get a tip, if not then fuck um.
I dont tip out of pity and i certainly dont tip out of guilt.
Get a real job, if you dont get enough being a server and rely on tips......fucking have a brain., plan ahead and rely on something else ya hack.
Go pump gas or paint houses with the rest of the nitch market underpaid and under educated that like to bitch about cheap tippers, or not getting thier "fair share" of lifes riches.
Infuriating to read some of the bleeding heart crap, and the teenage comments about spitting in food and other vile situations as threats are pathetic.
-Marc
Submitted by Mr. Pink at 2004-05-17 19:25:41 EDT (#)
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I agree.
Submitted by PeopleAreStrange (user info) at 2004-05-17 17:44:04 EDT (#)
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I agree.
We were in New York, in an overpriced Deli. The waiter was useless, we had to remind him 3 times to bring us water, and he got our order wrong. We paid the bill and we left a miniscule tip because his 'service' had been so lacking.
He and all his waiter friends verbally abused us, shouted at us for not paying 20%, one of them ran out into the street after us, shouting abuse.
Fucking cunts if they can't do their job properly they deserve fuck all and can take it up the arse.
I found that many Americans who served me were very false, because the majority of their wage is commission based. If they were just paid a standard wage they would not be so two-faced. Don't ask me where I'm from then not listen to my answer. I'd rather not make small talk either.
Capitalism is not so extreme in the UK and for that I am grateful. Standard tip here is 10% and many restuarants even state on their bill that you shouldn't tip unless you felt you received good service. Tipping is a reward not a right.
Submitted by transcendent (user info) at 2004-05-17 16:52:36 EDT (#)
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"You are server. You are getting paid to work at the restaurant. They're not paying you? You only
work for tips? That's not my problem. The other tables who actually give a shit will support you
for the day. If your probation officer made you work there, then I'll listen to you bitch. But if
you walked in on your own, fuck off. Don't like it? Walmart is hiring."
Agreed.
Though this seems very contradictory to your other post about loving to tip some people. I generally don't tip across the board, unless the person in question does something exceptional (or has a really nice body)..
Submitted by tuesdaydelay (user info) at 2004-05-17 15:57:06 EDT (#)
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Submitted by cwl989 (user info) at 2004-05-17 15:50:02 EDT (#)
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How true. I hate asshole waiters. More often than not, if I really don't like them i just eat and run. Take that, bitch.
Submitted by reallybored (user info) at 2004-05-17 14:07:19 EDT (#)
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Why does God need money?
Submitted by FatTony (user info) at 2004-05-17 13:57:34 EDT (#)
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Rokinroj: Fuck you. I am better then a server. I am the customer. Without a bunch of Me's the
restaurant closes. I am the boss. I tell you what I want. You get it for me. I pay you. You do
not tell me what you deserve. You are a servant. Technically a slave.
Submitted by Rokinroj (user info) at 2004-05-17 13:27:49 EDT (#)
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FatTony you sir are an asshole! It's people like you that make me embarrassed to be of the same species. Arrogant cock suckers such as yourself who go through life with a "better than you" attitude; treating people like shit because of a self perceived superiority. What a cock!
The next time you go down to that Italian place enjoy your meal knowing that you got an extra helping of FromUnda cheese from the kitchen.
Oh and BTW...chicks DO NOT dig a guy who would argue with a restaurant manager about a tip. If there are actually any females who will talk to you, ask them how cool it is. I think you'll be surprised to find that they only think you are a cheap fucker!
Rokinroj
Submitted by FatTony (user info) at 2004-05-17 13:22:21 EDT (#)
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Kristen: "someone wrote a post insulting small business owners, would you not take offense to it"
No, I would not take offense.
Submitted by antluvdog (user info) at 2004-05-17 13:18:01 EDT (#)
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The tip is included on big parties because many times a waiter is assigned a big group and for two hours ONLY HAS that big group. If, for whatever reason, someone out of the fucking blue decides they don't want to tip, that person will get stiffed. Would you like to work for two hours or more for free?
If you don't like the service, don't tip, but also tell the waiter and/or the manager why you don't like the service. Was the service at the restaurant really that bad? If so, then you did the right thing, otherwise you're rude and inconsiderate.
Submitted by LixUrBoogers at 2004-05-17 12:42:02 EDT (#)
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Being a waitress is a horrible job. As far as servers adding in gratuity, it usually is not their choice but the policy of their employer. You do deserve more for waiting on more people, because that is more hot ass plates you have to carry up stairs and more work you have to do once the customers are gone. And if a restaurant is going to add the tip onto the check there will be something saying that on the menu or posted somewhere. Instead of being a turd why don't you pay a little more attention or go to a trough.
Submitted by runninginplace (user info) at 2004-05-17 12:34:26 EDT (#)
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I had a waitress once who pretended to be pregnant to get better tips. Worked too.
Submitted by QueenAshlee (user info) at 2004-05-17 12:19:46 EDT (#)
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Actually, I *do* wear a size six-eight. I could post pictures of the tags of everything I own, but that'd be insane. However, several Uberpeople have seen me in person and can confirm that I am not, in fact, "chunky" and nowhere NEAR a size sixteen.
Submitted by Kristen (user info) at 2004-05-17 12:17:26 EDT (#)
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Um, Tony.
A lot of people on this site have met Ashlee. She is right within the first catergory (6-8) you mentioned.
Not to mention that it's incredibly inappropriate to say that sort of thing to any girl, even if she is a 16+.
Ashlee's a waitress. Is it any wonder that your post offended her? If someone wrote a post insulting small business owners, would you not take offense to it? Let her speak her mind, call you a dipshit, and get over it. Don't call her ass size into question.
I expected more from a man who obviously loves his wife and daughter.
Submitted by FatTony (user info) at 2004-05-17 12:04:49 EDT (#)
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QueenAshlee: How did come up with you being chunky? Any woman who has the name Angel, Queen,
Princess, etc. Is a woman with a huge ass. Don't have to be fat, normal face and gut, with a
oversize ass.
You can't tell me that you are a size 6-8 with a name like "Queen Ashlee". I'm guessing you are
more in the size 16+.
Am I making fun? No. I am a fat shit and if you can't tell by the name of "Fat Tony" you should
read some of my other posts about being too fat for a airplane or etc.
Honestly. What size are you? You already got a man, fuck what we think. When you go to buy a dress
what size to you end up buying (not the size you originally tried on). Be honest.
Submitted by FatTony (user info) at 2004-05-17 11:47:19 EDT (#)
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None of you people get what I am saying.
GREAT SERVICE: Will indeed get a 20% tip from me or more if called for. Lots of times at the same
restaurant a younger girl will tell me "I didn't charge you for dessert" or "I didn't charge you
for the 2nd glass of wine". That deserves more then 20 points. But when service is good and most
of all friendly and nice, yes you will get 20%. It's rare. Because every server has a bug up their
ass for some reason.
SHIT SERVICE: Will indeed get a shit tip. I will not show you gratitude with a tip. I will give you
less then 10% to show you I am dissatisfied with your service. A few times I've even cut a bill in
half to show them it's not about money, I just didn't want them to have it.
CHEAP? It's not about being cheap, it's about noe being taken advantage of. Its about nobody
telling me what to do. It's about me being the boss.
INCLUDED TIP: Fuck that! If you did excellent service and didn't charge me for a dessert or just
did an outfuckingstanding job and you include your tip. You will not get it. You do not tell me
what to do or what to give. I am the boss. I will tell you how much I should give you.
Submitted by DavyJones (user info) at 2004-05-17 11:37:57 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by antluvdog (user info) at 2004-05-17 11:16:33 EDT (#)
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You obviously never worked for a restaurant. You should try it sometime, you fat fuck.
Submitted by Degreeless_Capibara (user info) at 2004-05-17 10:56:59 EDT (#)
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Holy fucking shit. The impossible has happened. 119 reviews. Rating: 0
Submitted by IndianOcean (user info) at 2004-05-17 10:45:15 EDT (#)
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Agree
Submitted by TripinDayZ420 (user info) at 2004-05-17 10:35:29 EDT (#)
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Submitted by QueenAshlee (user info) at 2004-05-17 10:30:00 EDT (#)
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You're OBVIOUSLY not going to get it, because you're ignorant and thick-skulled, you fucking mouth breather, so I'll leave you with a few final comments, and then I'm going to stop wasting my time.
A) I really don't care what happens to your sister, I was talking shit. But I do think she's an idiot for putting herself BACK into a situation that so many women fight and die to get out of, after having gotten out in the first place. I'm a mite more intelligent than she, apparently, because it only took one attack for me to realize that the relationship? Probably not healthy, and maybe I ought to see about getting away from this guy and NOT running back to him because "I love him." Maybe I did love him, but I love my safety more.
B) I never said anything about servers being single parents.
C) I'm not sure how you got "chunky" from "I don't have kids" (or, for that matter, how you got "I don't have a man" from it, which I do, but that's beside the point), but you have a really weird logic.
D) You're cheap and stupid.
That's all I got. Fucker.
Submitted by Falco (user info) at 2004-05-17 08:17:13 EDT (#)
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I was in York at this Italian restaurant my aunt tipped the waitor, i asked her what she was doing she seemed embarrassed. Fuck that shit. I aint tipping a waitress unless the bitch sucks my dick, thast what i'd call service.
Submitted by p0ny_feeder <smith28.at.talk21.com> at 2004-05-17 07:48:49 EDT (#)
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I don't understand that you have to tip for things. It seems like a small print charge. In England tipping is optional, you get good food or good service you get a tip. You get a good bartender you give a tip.
Why don't they pay the waiters more money?
Then add that to the total cost of the food
Surely that makes more sense
Submitted by Falco (user info) at 2004-05-17 06:41:26 EDT (#)
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Tipping = gay
Submitted by dullard (user info) at 2004-05-17 06:21:18 EDT (#)
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Tipping is ok in a restaurant if the service is up to scratch, I realy hate it when it is added to your bill, with a proviso at the bottom that service is optional. This is bordering on fraud.
If I do tip I always pay at least 20%, because the tax man assumes a server gets a certain amunt of tips and taxes them accordingly. Also I will always pay the tip in hard cash even when paying for the meal by plastic.
I really do not understand the American concept of tipping a barman, all he has to do is hand over the drink, if he thinks he can get a tip by giving me a larger drink he must be deranged. When I order a drink I know what size it will be and it had better be that size or the Landlord will be on the wrong end of a £1000 fine. Have the Americans not heard of weights and measures?
Also, bell hops in hotels, they practically drag your bag out of your hand and take it up to your room at a pace of a slow snail, and then waste more of my time showing me the room.
Listen all hotel rooms are the same I don't need to be shown how to switch a light on or run a bath.
And then they will stand by my door expectantly, waiting for me to give them some indeterminate amount of money for a service i did not ask for and did not want. This used to really upset me and I would always try to check in and slip away to my room before a bell hop could get my bag, now I just wait till the bell hop approaches me, I give him $5 and tell him I don't need any help. It is just a protection racket but it keeps me happy and if find my self in need of assistance I am hopefully "in credit" with this fella who has local knowlegde.
Submitted by Nobb (user info) at 2004-05-17 05:37:19 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
We don't have tipping in NZ, it's included in the persons wages.
Submitted by DavyJones (user info) at 2004-05-17 04:01:25 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Is it bad that I do roughly half of those?
Submitted by WookieSuave (user info) at 2004-05-17 03:43:33 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Ya hurray, the cook does all the work...... I AGREE WITH YOU!
But guess what fuck-mook??? Line/Prep cooks and Chef's make more SALARY than fucking waiters/waitresses and bartenders.... They are ALREADY being rewarded for the things that they do.
Society has deemed it apporopriate to tip your server, that's the way it is, that's the way it's going to be.
Society also says you turn around when you enter an elevator...... Do you do that?
Society also says that you should wash your hands after you piss.. Do you do that?
Society also says that you should brush your teeth twice a day.... Do you do that?
Society also says to say "bless you" when someone sneezes.... Do you do that?
Society also says to wave when someone lets you in in traffic..... Do you do that?
Society also says to say please and thank-you............ Do you do that?
Society also says to open doors for women.......... Do you do that?
Society also says to shake someones hand when you meet them...... Do you do that?
Society also says to quit posting SHIT posts.......... You should do that!
It's part of life man; like gravity, or the coming of the tides... Get over it.
Submitted by mystiamoon (user info) at 2004-05-17 03:32:39 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
10 tables an hour = $25.00
50 tables a day = um... over $100.00
Fuck all waiters
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
Are you fucking retarded?
most servers get 3-6 tables at the most in their section.
you are very lucky to turn them once an hour.
dinner rush lasts 3 hours then the place dies.
Tony, although I agree that there should be a better system in place, you really need to learn what the fuck you are talking about before you spew anymore stupid ass arguments out that make you look like a total ass!
Submitted by DavyJones (user info) at 2004-05-17 02:48:31 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
I think that it's pretty funny when even people who work/have worked in service agree. Cooks fucking own. That is a brilliant idea. Next time I go out, I'm tipping the cook, fuck the waitress.
Submitted by TonyMontana (user info) at 2004-05-17 00:20:34 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
fuck 20%, fuck 15%, i think 10% is a good round number. plus it's easier to calculate on the spot rather than taking ten percent, halving it, adding it to the ten percent amount..blah blah blah.
plus that synopsis of reservoir dogs that someone wrote kicked ass.
Submitted by FatTony (user info) at 2004-05-16 23:40:50 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
I gotta say, I agree with Freakboy about the cook doing all the work. Write down the order, take
the order in the back, fill your cup once or twice and then give you the total. For this they
deserve $10?
The food was excellent. The food was fast. The food was set on the plate nicely, not thrown on with
gravy and flavors running into each other. The server had NOTHING to do with it.
The food sucked. The food was slow. The food looked shittier then it tasted. Know what? The server
had NOTHING to do with it either.
There should be a rule to replace the 20% rule. Just leave $2.50 regardless service. Regardless of
bill amount.
10 tables an hour = $25.00
50 tables a day = um... over $100.00
Fuck all waiters
Submitted by Death_Metal_Dude (user info) at 2004-05-16 21:08:09 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
ProtossPhreak just ended this argument.
Submitted by bluerampage2 (user info) at 2004-05-16 20:09:15 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
This is just to cancel out the +2 I accidentally gave you. No, it wasn't a tip. Your pathetic ass doesn't deserve anything for free, except for maybe a colonoscopy.
Submitted by bluerampage2 (user info) at 2004-05-16 20:08:13 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
It's because of assholes like you that waiters deserve such a large tip. I feel sorry for anyone who has to deal with you and your obnoxious attitude. Oh, and your grammar is looser than your stools after you eat out your dead mother.
Submitted by ProtossPhreak (user info) at 2004-05-16 19:17:12 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
On a side note, those few people who have sent me tips in the past always and will always have their order bumped up to the front of the order queue no matter how busy the place may be or what they may have ordered.
Submitted by ProtossPhreak (user info) at 2004-05-16 19:10:56 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
For the past 3 years now, I have been working as a short-order cook in a local restaurant. It pays decently well for a part-time job while I am at college (10 bucks an hour, 5 hour shifts). I can tell you from my personal experience that tipping a waitress or waiter is utter bullshit.
On a decent night at this particular restaurant, which by no means is fancy or extravagent, I make 50 dollars (obviously). On an insane Friday night, with orders being backed up, the phone ringing off the hook, and having to multitask and simultaniously preparing meals for 5 tables, I still make 50 bucks.
However, the waitresses on the same night, end up clearing aroung $200. And what do they do? Write down word on a piece of paper and bring out the food. Thats it. Well, sometimes work the cash register. How hard is that? Hell, I write notes to myself all the damn time. All the real work is done by the people you don't see, people like me. We deal with the illegible handwriting, the really fucking wierd orders, anything that is sent back, along with coordinating with 5 other people (all of whom focus on a general area, ie one makes the cheesesteak while another fries your chicken tenders) to make sure the whole order goes out at exactly the same time. Not to mention actually making the food. For those of you who think it can't be that bad, imagine making a dinner for a 20 member family, where each person wants something different, multiply by 5 hours.
So in reality, what are you tipping your server for? Being a MIDDLEMAN? I could train a dog to walk back and forth, carrying slips of paper.
It never ceases to astound me that people will always leave a 20% tip for some dumb reason such as "Oh the food was good", or "I got my meal quickly". THE WAITRESS WHO IS TAKING YOUR MONEY HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH THIS! I, personally, have recieved a tip sent back to me only twice in 3 years, and have only had a compliment passed back once on the food's quality, despite the fact that my food kicks ass. I can understand leaving a buck or two because your waitress was attentive and /or nice, but seriously, folks, anything over that is absurd. Send your encouragement (monetary and verbal) to the people that really deserve it.
Submitted by ChristPuncher (user info) at 2004-05-16 18:33:57 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
WHO CARES HOW MUCH FUCKING SERVERS MAKE
FUCK EM
FUCK EM AND WATCH THE BEARs
IT"S NOT MY FAULT THEY GOT A SHITTY ASS JOB
FUCK EM
GO 1% TIP WOO!!!
Submitted by KoolMang (user info) at 2004-05-16 18:17:25 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
I bet you love to spank your daughter each night ;)
Submitted by FatTony (user info) at 2004-05-16 17:49:50 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
mystiamoon: The single parent comment was for KoolMang and QueenAshlee. They say that most servers
are single parents that need my help. I was simply replying to their comment.
Submitted by mystiamoon (user info) at 2004-05-16 17:22:32 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
just because I agree that tipping should be abolished does not mean I support Tony or his caveman mentality towards everything.
Your single parent comment pissed me off you dolt!
I am not even a single parent and you offended me with your idiocy!
Submitted by mystiamoon (user info) at 2004-05-16 17:12:25 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
I worked as a server for about 7 years .
During college and after. It was great money, when i worked my way up to fine dining I was making over 100$ a night in tips. BUT.........
I then had to tip out the busboys, food runners and bartenders out of MY tips. even if i sold no bar drinks I still had to give the bartender 10% of my hard earned money.
I lived off of tips for many years but I am against it.
If the fucking resturant owners charging 25 bux a plate for meals would pay their workers a decent wage tipping would not be needed. I made 2.52$ an hour without my tips. BULLSHIT!
Tipping is stupid, people are often cheap, punish you if the CHEF screws something up and holds the server responsible for any number of things that are totally out of their control and leave a shitty tip.
I say pay a good wage and just let tipping be optional. If you have a great dining expierence or the server really goes out of their way to have your meal perfect then leave them a few extra bux.
People should not have to spend 50$ for dinner and then another 10$ on top for a tip.
Submitted by DavyJones (user info) at 2004-05-16 16:34:03 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Honeslty, Tony is right, and Ashlee is a bitch. Any questions?
Submitted by FatTony (user info) at 2004-05-16 16:13:46 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
This isn't a thing about being CHEAP. I tip/bribe when it's called for. For a uncompleted list of
who deserves a tip/bribe http://www.ubersite.com/m/33171 and you'll see it's not about being cheap.
I make a decent living. I am my own boss, I inherited nothing. Everything I have I did by myself.
No waiter will tell me how much to give them. Nobody tells me what to do. Nobody tells me the
amount of "gratitude" I will show a server.
gra·tu·i·ty: A favor or gift, usually in the form of money, given in return for service.
grat·i·tude: The state of being grateful; thankfulness
Why shold I give you a gift? You performed like shit, you let me know that I am unimportant to you
and now you tell me how much you demand. Fuck you and your profession.
You made a mistake with my order? YOu got the wrong drinks? Hey, shit happens. Don't say sorry,
don't blink an eye. A simple "I'll fix this, no worries" and you still get a tip. BUT! When I ask
for a diet coke and you bring me coke and I tell you "This is not diet" don't give me any crap. Fix
it. Your job is to take my order and bring me what I asked for. The food is wrong? Hey, not your
fault, you didn't prepare it, you just brought it over to my table. When I tell you that I said no
onion in my salad or no oil in my salad, don't give me an attitude that I should just eat it to
make your life easy. Don't even say sorry. A simple "I'll let them know they messed up and I will
try to fix it for you". You put something on my bill that I didn't order? Hey, it happens. When I
point it out to you, don't look at me like I am a cheap fuck, just fix it without an attitude.
Submitted by CunningVision (user info) at 2004-05-16 15:59:17 EDT (#)
Ranking: 1
Lots of replies.
I don't know about the rest of Europe, but in Italy tipping is nonexistant because waiting tables or cooking is a career. They get paid decently and they don't take tips. I loved that. Saves me time and I don't have to fret at whether or not the wait staff will get pissy about the amount I left.
Submitted by BoogieFevuh (user info) at 2004-05-16 15:34:57 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Amen...tipping blows.
One time at a diner, I didn't tip the waiter because we only saw him twice. The first time was 10 minutes after we sat down, the second time was 20 minutes after we ordered. Then when we left, a few of my friends lit up cigarettes outside the place. The waiter actually came out and demanded us to tip him!
Another time some old waitress pretended to limp, just to get a pity tip (the next day i was there too, her "broken leg" healed up quite nicely)
Fuck waiters, they're fake, greedy, and stuck up.
Submitted by FatTony (user info) at 2004-05-16 14:44:03 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
QueenAssHole: I will address every point in your last post.
You was in an abusive relationship? Yet you wish it upon another woman? You miserable cunt.
No man and no kids told me you had ainmals. Also tells me you are very chunky yet you try to hide it.
If the monkey behind the counter or at the drive up window didn't put the tipjar there. Who did?
Was it the Server Fairy? "You do deserve a tip, you are special and I love you!" They put it there.
I'm sure the manager didn't go up to the drive thru monkey and say "I think you deserve a raise,
but I can't give you one, I feel very strongly about a tip jar? What do you say? Here's your first
buck!".
The reason the tip jar at Starbucks is usually 1/2 way full with bills is because the they feel
that it's polite and don't want the monkey behind the counter to think less of them. There is
usually a hot young girl or a young handsome guy at the register. Most people feel they have to
leave a tip just because. They are making over minimum wage. I don't tip when it's uncalled for.
Shit service = shit tip. Outstanding service = nice fucking tip. Monkey behind counter = middle finger.
The pizza guy DOES NOT deserve a tip. Servers, waiters, delivery people are not a band of brothers.
They are not Sicillian. Take care of their own? What? Are they from The Masonic Lodge and have a
special handshake or ring to identify themselves in a crowd? The pizza guy does not deserve a tip.
It's simple. He gets paid to deliver pizzas. He has a nice car. He does not need my money. I need
my money. Now, if a pizza guy comes over to my house with a ratty ass old busted nova and isn't
dressed like he's going to club after he dropps my my pie, then yes he will get a tip. But when the
zit infested horndog comes to my house in a 2004 Rice Burner with vinal graphics and neon lights
and a bumping sound system dressed like he is going to a club, fuck him he deserves nothing.
Tip the host/hostess? Absofuckinglutley! If there is a wait, you tip and magically your name goes
higher on the list. They can do something for you.
Gratuity. I am not showing any gratitude for your attitude. I am not grateful for anything you did
for me you miserable low life cunt. You made my Vente coffee in 7 minutes, you get paid by the
hour. I shall show you no gratitude because you did nothing special for me. You write down my
food order, you got it from teh kitchen to my table. You filled my drink twice. Here is $2.00
STFU. If you are nice, have a decent personality, be polite and have a happy face, then yes. I wil
definately show you my gratitude by leaving 20%. You was nice, yo did not overcharge me on my bill
and you were pleasent to deal with. ON THE FLIP SIDE! You have an attitude. You bring my food cold.
You fill my drink after the third request. You added something to my bill that I did not order and
you never really made eye contact with me because you think you are better. You will get a five
dollar bill cut in half to show you that it's not about the money, it's about the attidude.
My Queenashlee impression:
You should tip to make the economy better! You hold in your hand the key to their survival. I hope
you choke and die and I hope your slut sister (whom I know nothing about) gets beaten again.
How is it, that a woman who thinks you should tip to make the world a better place tells a person
"I hope you choke" or tells them "I hope you sister gets beat up again" when they have been on
the recieving end of a beating from a man themselves. Are you afraid of Karma? If yes, then you
should be careful what you wish upon other people, because it might come back and bite you on the
ass.
Am I afraid of Karma? Karma is a 500 pound bitch who is constantly on her period. No I am not afraid.
No I don't care. I don't get tipped either. Wow! Karma is alive and well.
Submitted by Falconer (user info) at 2004-05-16 14:40:58 EDT (#)
Ranking: -1
While not tipping on principle is kind of shitty, not tipping because the service was shite is fine by me, and to be forced to is turd.
Submitted by Random Joe at 2004-05-16 14:31:54 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
awesome
Submitted by FatTony (user info) at 2004-05-16 14:16:33 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Koolmang: This proves that you are a pussy. You asked me a question about decenty, I answered and
told you what I think is decent. You reply with "No wonder the Italians lost at everything they've
ever done." That's all you had to say after your little challenge of "Argue about human decency,
Antonio." I am American. Fuck Italy, fuck europe, fuck everything Italy stands for. Except the food
the food kicks ass.
Anansie: Sweetie the only way to afford nice things is to put in way more then 40 hours a week. Want
nice big house? Want a nice German car? Want a lil bit of luxury? Be prepared to work more then 50
hours a week. You are in college, good for you. May God bless you in your choice and may you kick
ass.
Submitted by SPE (user info) at 2004-05-16 13:48:24 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
dont see how this is minus...Fucking waiters. 1 out of 5 will deserve the tip.
Submitted by QueenAshlee (user info) at 2004-05-16 13:36:17 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
See, there you go again, ignoring every point I made ever. So what I'll do is show you how one directly addresses a point, and maybe you'll learn by example.
I'm not quite sure how not having kids = not having a man. I'm sorry, I wasn't aware that you HAD to have a child in order to be in a relationship. I hate when they change the rules on me. Also, I've been in a semi abusive relationship ONCE. See, when my boyfriend hit me in the face, that was my cue to get away from him ASAP, and not go running back into his arms like an idiot. As for my animals, they may just do so and turn on me; I'm sure a ten year old declawed cat and a seven pound dog will do just loads of damage. I'm PETRIFIED.
You may not think people behind counters or drive thrus deserve tips, and that's fine, but do remember that they weren't the ones who put the tip jar there. The person who runs the establishment, be it a manager or owner, was the one who decided that there should be a tipjar there, and often with good reason. You said it yourself, those jars are often half-full of bills, so obviously there are people out there who aren't cheap and selfish and stupid.
The pizza guy DOES deserve a tip. They've got an advantage, see. There are GENERALLY about 4-5 delievery guys at a pizza place in a good size city. They usually have about the same area... If you don't tip them, they *will* remember where you live, and you're very likely either A) getting your pizza either late and cold or B) getting more than just pizza the next time you order. Much like servers, there is an unspoken rule in ANY food service circle that they take care of their
own.
Personally, I've never been to a pizza parlor, or to a drive thru that had a tip jar, but I HAVE tipped fast food workers and even hostesses in sit-down resturaunts before. The reason being that I've done these jobs and they are HARD. But then, I'm not a selfish, cheap, ignorant, inbred douche.
Basically, if you are SO disgusted by tip jars and other such things in food service establishments, I suggest you just stay the fuck out of them. Or, keep going, keep getting pissed off about it, and have a fucking anurism so I and the lovely people who have to put up with your bullshit face to face don't have to fucking deal with you anymore.
And finally, for my Fat Tony impression.
"wut u insult me muthafuka?!!?! well whatever you siad i hope it happens to your momma/kids/brother/dog because i'm an idiot and i can't come up with an insult of my own other than muthafucka! lookit me i make mistakes and dont bother correcting them, even tho it makes me look lik a fuckin moron! muthafukas! i'm such a badass i dont feel its necessary to treat other human beings with respect! i can ignore whatever anyone who doesnt agree with me says and babble like an idiot because i AM an idiot!"
In closing, you're still a cheap, stupid, and now, it appears, childish and uncreative douchebag. Thank you and goodnight.
Submitted by Anansie (user info) at 2004-05-16 11:41:01 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
I don't make a lot of money or drive a nice car, and neither do any of my co-workers, unless their mommy or daddy helped them pay for it. I'm making enough to pay the bills while I go to college. Thank god that when I graduate I won't have to put up with the shit I put up with on a daily basis. I don't have enough for extras, or anything fancy. The only people that do are the ones who work about fifty hours a week, to my knowledge, or the bartenders. I have never seen a server able to keep up with the costs of a nice car or a luxurious lifestyle without working sixty hours a week and still stressing themselves because, quite frankly, they are trying to live beyond their means. Unless, of course, the person is slinging drugs on the side, or comes from a rich family and only got the job for spending money. It really doesn't matter. A crappy tipper is a crappy tipper. You can't change people's opinions on the matter. You either are a cheap fuck or you have a little understanding of the way society works. If the service is bad, then by all means, say so in the tip. But if it's good, leave the standard. If you don't like it, you can go to McDonald's and clean up after yourself and take the food to your table yourself, and deal with the rude bitch behind the counter who doesn't give a fuck if you enjoy your visit or not (believe it or not, most servers do care if you enjoy your visit). If your server is rude to you, tell the manager. The rest of us probably don't like her anyway and think she needs to be fired. Generally the ones who spit out attitude at you are the same ones who spit it out at the rest of us and never want to lift a finger to do anything but pick up their tips.
It's fine by me, either way. There are enough good people out there to balance out the bad ones.
Submitted by Nator (user info) at 2004-05-16 08:27:24 EDT (#)
Ranking: -1
In Holland we're all Dutch, so we don't usually tip anyway.
Submitted by Socially_Distorted (user info) at 2004-05-16 03:38:32 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
i cant afford the price of th food, let alone the tip..
Submitted by KoolMang (user info) at 2004-05-16 02:52:29 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
No wonder the Italians lost at everything they've ever done.
Submitted by Death_Metal_Dude (user info) at 2004-05-15 22:02:10 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
"My friend dates a waitress at the "Charter House" in Marina Del Rey CA. She drives a BMW and has
a kick ass lil apartment 1 mile from the ocean. Poor wittle server girl with her 3 series and
semi obstructed ocean view balcony."
I think you mean the Charthouse, and that place is fucking expensive. It's not some shitty $20 including tax per meal place. I'm not surprised she gets a lot of money there.
"I'll be hoping with everything in me that your brother in law somehow feels my hatred for you and takes it out on your stupid slut sister, douchebag. "
You're a disgusting cunt, bitch who wrote this.
Submitted by Random Joe at 2004-05-15 21:38:25 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Yeah, tip the waiters!
Submitted by Random Joe at 2004-05-15 21:38:09 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Yeah, fuck the waiters!
Submitted by bob (user info) at 2004-05-15 21:30:46 EDT (#)
Ranking: -1
tipping should go on service.
you get your glasses filled everytime their empty, you get your food quick, no wait to sit down. Then they deserve 20%. this is rare.
you get ok service. 15%
you get bad service. 10%.
quit your bitchin.
Submitted by FatTony (user info) at 2004-05-15 21:15:33 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
"she drives" was supposed to be SHOE drives. Our church does a thing every quarter for people to
bring old shoes, blankets, jackets, etc. I work near the wholesale district. When I see shoes cheap
I usually buy as many as I can afford. Blankets cheap? I buy as many as I can afford. Etc.
Submitted by FatTony (user info) at 2004-05-15 21:12:34 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Koolmang: You have not " entered the food service industry". You are a monkey behind the counter.
Pizza? Starbucks? Delli? You do not deserve my change, let alone a percentage of my bill.
"glaze a person's face behind the counter or at the table is a big fat tip." Sure, I'll glaze her
face. With my big fat ... small skinny penis.
I don't give a shit if the girl at Starbucks likes me. Her approval is not worth a dollar to me.
Her smile is not worth a dollar to me. Didn't smile at me? Fuck you. Did smile at me? Fuck you.
Gimme my coffee, stop smiling and gimmie my change. Bitch.
"generous and polite" When it's called for, yes. I too can be quite the gentleman and be incredibly
polite. When I am being treated like shit by some waiter my manners go out the window. Fuck you,
do you job and I'll give you what I WANT NOT WHAT YOU WANT!
Charity? I give a minimum of 10% to my church and I give a minimum of 5% to "other" charities.
Homless blanket drives, she drives, heaters, etc. 5% of my income is nothing to sneeze at.
"allieviating some of their financial concerns outside of work" Who helps allievate my financial
concerns? The mutherfucker isn't even concerned with my allievating my hunger. Fuck him.
"With charities, you are supporting people who are going to die anyway" You worthless little man.
Ever pass out hamburgers to the homeless? Ever give away blankets or shoes to homless? Ever put
some time in at a mission? Oh, they're just homless bums who get high or drunk. I don't give to
Jerry's kids, fuck them. When I give it's to homless shelters or the homeless directly. I work
downtown L.A. There is homeless people all along 1st and Los Angeles st.
Instead of tipping the girl at Starbucks to see her smile, try giving a homeless person a dollar.
Try finding your old clothes and shoes and smelly blankets and give them away to people who need
it. If you are after smiles, if you are after praise, if you are after gratitude, that's where
you will find it. Ever see homeless kids? The worst thing I've seen is a mother and a few kids in
a homeless mission. Yeah, the mom was a whore and etc. But a kid? The fucking eyes are so full of
... something. Promise? Hope? Happiness? Yet they are in need of shoes and decent clothes. When
you feed a hungry person, or clothe a cold person you will experience real gratitude. A dollar for
the bitch behind the counter at starbucks does nothing for her. Yet a dollar at a homeless mission
or directly to a homeless person does a shitload. I don't know how you were raised, but if you are
wanting to make people smile and happy or see a fucking glaze on their face, do it for sombody
who hasn't smiled in weeks. Do it for sombody who hasnt seen a hot meal in days. Do it for sombody
that fucking needs help.
Wanna argue about human decency? You can afford to leave dollars here and there, yet you think
charity is for people who are going to die. What's more decent?
A: Leaving a dollar for some chick to make her smile who has a job with decent pay. Obviously has
a home and seems to have a decent life.
B: Giving a buck to a homeless shelter.
C: Going to McDonalds on Tuesday when Cheese burgers are 39 cents and buying 10 bucks worth and
giving them away to hungry people.
Submitted by KoolMang (user info) at 2004-05-15 20:06:06 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
"P.S. I don't have any kids. However I'll be hoping with everything in me that your brother in law somehow feels my hatred for you and takes it out on your stupid slut sister, douchebag."
Queen Ashlee is becoming awesome in my book.
As for you, Tony, here are your arguments in a nutshell:
1) It's their job, they should just do it.
2) I paid for the food, why pay for a person to do their job?
3) Tipping is based on quality of service ONLY.
Ever since I entered the food service industry, whenever I go out to small "shitty" establishments like Starbucks or whatever, I leave a buck tip at LEAST when I order...what I've noticed is that those who I tip generally like me better because something that can glaze a person's face behind the counter or at the table is a big fat tip.
MY argument is making people happy, or at least a bit more content with the human race. Personally, I don't know how YOU were raised, but I was raised to be generous and polite. I learned tipping on my own, even though I'm nearing 20's now. When I see a tip cup, I gladly give towards it. There are other cups, too. There's those fucking charities. Let me put myself into Tony-mode: "FUCK THE CHARITIES, WHAT DID THEY EVER DO FOR YOU?". Nothing at the moment, and I don't give the poor kids with cancer money when in a fucking BANK, because the kids with cancer aren't doing anything for me. I am not being cruel to charities, its just charity boxes and tip boxes are different things.
With charities, you are supporting people who are going to die anyway, and contributing to one swoozabillion needed to cure that disease ALONE. In that view, tipping is better. You are helping support healthy servants of society by allieviating some of their financial concerns outside of work. I notice you haven't commented on the "being polite" argument, as in BEING A GOOD HUMAN BEING, NO MATTER WHAT! This is what's wrong with your country today. "LET'S SUE BECAUSE THE COFFEE WAS TOO HOT!" or "OH DEAR A DIRTY FORK, I WANT MY FUCKING MONEY BACK!".
I don't hope you choke, but I hope you will reply to my repeating argument about being a generous member of society. If you say it's "karma" that if your server gives you shitty service and you give a shitty tip, then what about the reverse? Won't karma activate itself if you give the server a tip, and he/she is generally happier?
One time I let an old dude use the men's washroom before going in to clean it. He gave me 2 bucks as a tip afterwards, coincidentally. THAT is karma.
Argue about human decency, Antonio.
Submitted by FatTony (user info) at 2004-05-15 19:18:21 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
QueenMuthafuckerAshlee: You don't have kids? So, you don't have a man. If you do have a man, I hope
he beats the living crap out of you one day and you'll see how it feels. If you have no man, I hope
you animal turns on you. You are a CUNT.
They said it's state law for a 20% gratuity, but they lied. There is no law in California for tips.
Next thing you fuckheads will tell me is that the people behind counters, at drive thru windows
and the moron at Starbucks all deserve tips.
There is bagle druve thru near my house, Goldstein's Bagles. The drive up window has a tip jar!
A druve up window with a tip jar? WTF! When you buy something and there is a dollar or some change
left over the girl motions over to the tip jar with a facial jesture like "do you need this?". YES!
I fucking need it! It's mine! You are a drive thru girl, you are the lowest form of server there is
even lower then the Sizzler bus boy.
Starbucks! Why is there a tip jar there? Not only do you have to learn a different language to
order fucking coffee (Can I have a large... sorry, we don't have large, it's vents, grande, and
tall) but they charge a crazy amount of money for it. Fine, I pay the price then there is a fucking
tip jar! Like I am supposed to feel sorry for the woman slinging me a cup of $4.00 coffee and give
her the dollar I got back from my five. Fuck you!
Pizza parlors! Walk up counter, "Gimmie two slices, please" The asshole who puts the slices on the
plate has a tip jar! What did you do so special deserving a tip? I can get a monkey to do your job
for a peanut.
If you tip 20% or more at a restaurant, do you tip at McDonalds? Wendy's The lady takes you order,
gets your food (Carl's Jr. brings you your food to your table, just like a real restaurant) and
fills you cup for you. Should I tip the Carl's Jr. lady for bringing my southwest chicken n fries?
"here's a buck sweetheart, *wink* dynamite job, God bless".
If a waiter only gets $2.00 per hour, technically all they need is one or two tables per hour to
give them $5.00 each and bang, they made $12.00 for that one hour. We all know they make more then
five bucks per table and do way more then two tables per hour.
The fucking pizza guy thinks he deserves a tip! You little muthafucker, get off my porch before I
let my dog loose to hump your zit infested leg you worthless broken rubber!
Let's hear it Uberbitches!
Does the pizza guy deserve 20 points?
Does the drive up window chick deserve your change?
Does the monkey behind the counter deserve a tip?
I say fuck them all. Fuck them good. Fuck them long. It's my change. It's my money. It's my choice!
When I see people in need, I do what I can to help. Not to long ago I gave a kid like $40 to buy
shoes because he was begging. I've given bums money, I've offered jobs to people who hold up the
"will work for food" signs (they never want to work BTW). I do what I can when I see a need. Awww?
Jr. Needs a nintendo or a boost in the college fund. Fuck him. WHERE'S MY CHEESE DAMMIT!
Submitted by GhostFox04 (user info) at 2004-05-15 17:53:52 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
It is utterly retarded that the customer must supplement sub-standered wages payed by the employer. You should fill in a % that you believe your server is entitled to (10-20%) and then it should come out of the employers pocket. If you are a computer programmer and you write a good program does every person who buys it give you $20 extra for your hard work? Or do you maybe ger a raise and a promotion at work?
Tipping needs to be outlawed.
Submitted by legallady (user info) at 2004-05-15 17:43:44 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
No Comment
Submitted by Zeccs (user info) at 2004-05-15 17:24:30 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
You know why you should tip waiters? Because if you dont, they will remember, and you will get something unpleasant in your food.
Submitted by QueenAshlee (user info) at 2004-05-15 17:19:00 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Nice how you managed to completely ignore every single point I made, asswipe.
Here's how it is. You said yourself that the manager of the resteraunt told you that it was STATE FUCKING LAW for a gratuity to be added to the tab for parties of 6 or more. That's not the server telling you what they think they deserve. That's the server following state law. The server didn't just pull some arbitrary number out of their ass. They did what they were fucking told to do. They were required by law to include that amount, and you were required by law to pay it. By not paying it, you broke the fucking law. You could (and should) have been arrested for it, just as if you'd walked out of walmart with a pair of sunglasses you hadn't paid for. You stupid, fucking cheap moron.
P.S. I don't have any kids. However I'll be hoping with everything in me that your brother in law somehow feels my hatred for you and takes it out on your stupid slut sister, douchebag.
Submitted by FatTony (user info) at 2004-05-15 17:02:42 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
QueenMuthafuckerAshlee: You hope I choke? I hope you see your children choke and you remember this
thread.
The Economy has nothing to do with me not tipping some corn laden piece of shit waiter. It's my
money and I'll spread it around thick or thin as I please. Who the fuck are you to tell me how to
spend my money? It's MY money. I worked for it, I earned it. You spend your money any way you want.
I spend money on gas, my SUV, food, toys, etc. Fuck if I'm going to give 20% to a waiter who tells
me what he deserves.
People who think they deserve 20% can lick my asshole.
People who think other people deserve 20% regardless of service for the sake of the economy can
also lick my ass.
Submitted by QueenAshlee (user info) at 2004-05-15 12:44:06 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
GAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!
I will say this in tiny words so that maybe, JUST MAYBE, you can get it through your thick, ignorant skull and understand the words that I am saying to you. If I can't find a small word, don't fret, I'll explain the big ones.
THE ECONOMY (you know, that thing that directly relates to how much money we have and how much it's worth vs. the cost of living + cost of luxury items [T.V., car, etc.]) is SHIT right now. A poor economy means lots and lots of people don't have jobs, because businesses (the places that hire people) can't afford to have as many employees (people who come to work for money). Ergo, it's not as easy as "find another job." In fact, serving often IS the other job that someone found, after being laid off from Company A due to budget (how much disposable money the company has for employees, supplies, etc.) cuts.
You hold in your hands the key to helping inprove the economy: the more money people are spending, the stronger the economy becomes. If all the servers that dealt with cheap fucks like you were to take your advice and quit their jobs, ALL THE SERVERS WOULD QUIT THEIR JOBS. There would be no more servers, thus, there would be no more resturaunts. Then, you'd have to cook your own damned food, which is what you should be doing anyway. Actually, you should be locked in a cell with no food, because cheap bastards don't deserve to live, but that's entirely beside the point.
Also, godking, you're a motherfucking idiot. Anyone who is regularly making a grand waiting tables four days a week is giving a litte extra service "under the table" if ya know what I mean. Ah hell, you're stupid and probably don't: She's sucking somone's dick for that kind of money. Probably lots of dicks.
Also, you wanna hear a restruant owner tell someone to stay home and eat, I'll be happy to introduce you to one who will and has told cheap fucks who leave shitty tips not to return to her establishment.
I would go on, but I'm tired and everyone's already pretty much covered it. In closing, fuck you and I hope you choke.
Submitted by WookieSuave (user info) at 2004-05-15 05:40:25 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
It might seem shallow and wrong, but the fact of the matter is......
A server's job is to take your order, and bring you your food.... THAT'S IT....
Was your pop refilled promptly?
Was your ashtray emptied after only a few butts?
Were your plates cleared from your table shortly after the meal?
Did the server smile?
(In some cases) Did the server listen to your bullshit jokes, and seem interested?
Were you greeted and seated with class?
Did your server help you with your menu and/or specials?
Were they kind with your children?
etc....
etc....
etc....
THAT my friends..... THAT is what delegates how you should tip.....
http://www.ubersite.com/m/23109
Submitted by tshia (user info) at 2004-05-14 19:52:45 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
"my wife who sucks my cock on occasion"
"On a date? With clients? Fuck it"
date... wife... what?
Submitted by kai070169 (user info) at 2004-05-14 19:34:55 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
I agree, but if service is particularly good Ive been known to tip OVER 20%.
Submitted by FatTony (user info) at 2004-05-14 19:10:13 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Lauren: I AM NOT A RAT! I'm a lot of thngs, but I am no rat.
If a server wasn't making decent money, they'd quit. They are making decent money, it's just that
they want MORE of it. What did he/she do so great? Wrote down what I wanted, brought out the food
(didn't prepare it, just brought it over), filled my cup and handed me the bill. All in all they
worked mabey 20 minutes, for this they deserve $15? If they are staying at my table, and doing
every single thing I want, then it's different. They are out and about at other tables, making fun
of me and my order, doing God knows what to my food, while the cook does the real work.
Submitted by Loren1 (user info) at 2004-05-14 16:43:10 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
TripinDayZ420 is my new favorite poster.
And the "Z420" in the handle reminds me of my first car, a 1972 (I think it was a '72) Datsun 240Z. Holy crap I'm getting old....
FatTony, I still want to kick you in the balls for being such a classically loud-mouthed, fat, bossy, self-involved, ball-scratching, fart-and-belch-in-public rat bastard.
You would be best buddies with my ex boyfriend, no doubt... only difference is he knew how to tip...
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-05-14 16:06:15 EDT (#)
Ranking: 1
FLAIR man...you have got to have a minimum of 13 pieces of flair .............fuck that..FAT Tony's right......... give me good service.........I dump a wad on them tip wise......shitty service.........I don't give alot........Dinning out is supposed to be a nice, pleasant experience........and that all starts with the servers. On the same note ..........Just because I'm a server........doesn't give you the right to vent or treat me like shit either...its a dance people.........the better the dancing partners......the better the overall experience....
Submitted by Anansie (user info) at 2004-05-14 16:01:07 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2004-05-14 09:31:30 (#)
Ranking: 0
Submitted by Anansie (user info) at 2004-05-13 19:34:31 (#)
Ranking: -2
...Waiting tables is ranked in the top five stressful jobs in America...
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You are obviously an idiot, and whoever gave you that info is an idiot. Policeman, fireman, ER nurses and doctors, anyone who works on wall street, the list goes on and on. Waiting tables is not that tough.
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I can't be bothered to look every link on the internet up right now, but here's one listing it as the ninth most stressful.
http://www.unc.edu/courses/2001spring/soci/031/001/march/dangerous.html
This one lists it as number 10: http://www.cdc.gov/ulcer/myth.htm
So obviously it IS stressful. I heard on one of those news shows that it was in the top five a while back. So sue me, bitch. It is a stressful job, and anyone who has done it before knows that. You obviously are an idiot yourself, and a PMS-affected bitch at that. Fuck you.
Submitted by Harmless (user info) at 2004-05-14 15:51:18 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
I've never heard of it being the law, but it is often the policy of the place, and does say so on the menu. Gratuity I believe it is referred to. Speaking of tips though, if I don't receive good service, I tip incredibly poorly, basically so it's more insulting than stiffing them. Also, I tip more if they have a front pocket, because I like to tuck a few bills in there and say:
"Here's a little something for your troubles *Pause* it's money."
Submitted by WookieSuave (user info) at 2004-05-14 15:28:30 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
I AM a bartender..... I appreciate all the nice things you said about us......
But servers work hard you dumb fuck.....
"I'm then told that California state law is that the tip be included for parties of 6 or larger."
Read the menu next time fuck-mook.
Submitted by lawryde (user info) at 2004-05-14 12:53:35 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
"and you STILL don't appreciate the fact that they're there to serve you. Imagine if they weren't? "
Oh man, I'd have to get up to get a plate of food, or write down what everyone at my table wants and walk it to the kitchen.
THE FUCKING HORROR!
THE HORROR!
Submitted by KoolMang (user info) at 2004-05-14 12:11:57 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
"If they aren't making money, why do they make it a career? Don't do it for 5+ years, get into
real estate, become a paralegal, loose some weight and dance on a pole, etc."
Smashing idea! While we're at it, make dining out illegal! You might as well, because if everyone took your advice, you'd walk into Subway and nobody to serve you! Don't bring the argument into place about illegal immigrants taking those jobs because, if the job pays NO money, then why bother working?
What you just said indicates how much of a cunt you can be. You are putting the people who are serving you food down by belittling them. You jeopardize their tips, you take advantage of them, and you STILL don't appreciate the fact that they're there to serve you. Imagine if they weren't?
You place so little value on your server, but place so much value on what they serve to you. What is your argument against this?
Submitted by godking (user info) at 2004-05-14 12:09:32 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Here's another +2 cause you need it, and some perspective for everyone else.
Let's take the average "$20-30 for 2 people to eat" restaraunt, like Olive Garden, ChiChis, Lonestar, or any of a million similar places. A waiter/waitress serving just 4 couples who average $25, per hour, would get an average of $15 + his/her wages of $2. $17 per hour. That's as much as starting LPN. More than 4 tables, 2 people per, $25 per table and minimum tipping is possible and quite likely, especially on a weekend. The above numbers translate to $35,360 per year, and of course any smart person will only claim the required minimum on taxes, leaving a % of this tax free. If just one of those tables has 4 people, that pushes the yearly to $43,160. I do purchasing and CAD work and don't make this.
Now assuming you work your way into an upscale restaraunt, where the meals run $80-100 per couple, and just 2 tables in an hour will get you $27 @ 15% plus your $2 per hour wages! That's $60,320- more than a lot of engineers, nurses, teachers, cops, or firemen will ever see.
Now, the down side might be a small diner where the food might be $8 per person. Serving just 10 people or 5 couples in an hour who tip just the average still nets you 12 plus wages.
If I suck at my job I get fired and not paid, so why should I pay a waiter who sucks at his?
GK
Submitted by FatTony (user info) at 2004-05-14 12:00:13 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Stiff a server? I never really stiffed a server, I always leave something. A tip is something I
feel the server deserves. Not something you tell me you deserve. Who the fuck are you and where
did you come from to tell me what I should give you.
My wife tells me what she wants. My kids tell me what they want. My server SHALL NOT tell me what
he/she wants, I will give them what I want. I am the boss. I am the reason the restaurant is there.
The restaurant is there for ME the customer, not for the server.
My friend dates a waitress at the "Charter House" in Marina Del Rey CA. She drives a BMW and has
a kick ass lil apartment 1 mile from the ocean. Poor wittle server girl with her 3 series and
semi obstructed ocean view balcony.
If they aren't making money, why do they make it a career? Don't do it for 5+ years, get into
real estate, become a paralegal, loose some weight and dance on a pole, etc.
Submitted by TripinDayZ420 (user info) at 2004-05-14 11:39:34 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
and i used to enjoy reading your material.
if you eat at the same establish more than once you can be assured, oh assholiest of the assholes, that you have eated either:
A. Semen
B. A Dishwashers Pube
C. Both
servers do not forget those who stiff them. even if they don't wait on you next time there is a brotherhood / sisterhood among them that ensures the server you do get will fuck YOU over for fucking over one of their own.
just think about that next time you get the cheeseburger plain and it comes with mayo you insolent twunt.
Submitted by FatTony (user info) at 2004-05-14 11:39:15 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Koolmang: "If you don't want to tip, buy groceries and cook it yourself." Cook it my self? Fuck you
I'd like an actual restaurant owner to say that. If you can't tip my servers, please go elsewhere.
Never happen. My attitude is Fuck the Server and the owners attitude is prety much the same. If the
owner of the establishment gives a fuck, let him raise prices on the menue to make his servers some
extra money.
"Give the servers what they deserve. In my opinion, tipping is like manners." Give them what they
deserve? Most servers don't deserve the pubes off of my sweaty sack. When a server (taken from the
word servant) performs his/her job nicely they get what they deserve. When they are nice and do a
bang up job, they get compensated accordingly. Show me attitude, I'll show you a dollar. Technically
it is karma. They are not worthy of a tip and they do not get one.
PEOPLE THAT WORK BEHIND A COUNTER DO NOT DESERVE A TIP! Unless of course you are a bar tender.
Koolmang, YOU work behind a counter. YOU do not deserve a tip. Mabey just to be polite the change
left over from my order but that's about it. No paper currency should be deposited into your little
cup thingy. You are getting paid an hourly wage to perform a service. Perform your service and
SHUT THE FUCK UP. Oh hey can I have some extra cheese?
Submitted by godking (user info) at 2004-05-14 11:32:41 EDT (#)
Ranking: 1
Once I went with my wife, my brother, and his girlfriend to Cedar Pointe for a few days. My brother's gf was a waitress at a small truck stop. She went in for 4 hours the night before we left and made enough in tips to pay for the entire trip for them, including tickets and hotel. She typically worked 4 days a week and made 8-900$. Some weeks she exceeded 1000$. Waiters and Waitresses make a lot more- A LOT MORE- than they claim on taxes.
I also get tired of the whining about how hard they work. Let them go build a house in the mud, fix a road in 100 degree weather, or polish metal for 40 years like my father and then tell me how hard waiting tables is.
My Tip Table:
- Drinks refilled without asking, order correct, Friendly and fun without being obnoxious?
=More than 15%
- Drinks refilled with some asking, order correct or mistakes fixed quickly?
= 15%
- Sucking on Icecubes, frequent "where is she/he?" remarks?
= 10%
- multiple mistakes, very slow, or ANY NEGATIVE ATTITUDE?
= Don't Eat Yellow Snow, Look Both Ways Before Crossing
GK
Submitted by KoolMang (user info) at 2004-05-14 11:09:50 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
This is an unfortunate example of freedom of speech. Tipping is like a Father's Day gift. Now, I can give my dad this mini optical mouse with a retractable cord EARLY, or I can save it for the 20th of June, when it'll be more special. If tipping was mandatory...well they might as well include it in the menu prices, and make the servers pay more. But if it was mandatory as a seperate fee, then for the waiter it wouldn't be as special, you know why?
Because the waiter would know that the hard-earned tips he received wasn't given by the kindness of peoples' hearts, but rather because they were forced to.
I may work behind-the-counter, but I do all the shit my customer asks, and recently when I've been saying "Thank you!", I mean the opposite in my burning soul that they didn't leave change. When I say "thank you!", that's because I have to, the money that went into the register didn't go to me, it went to the owner who's at home spanking his kids or whatnot. If people tip us, it's a REAL way of saying "Thank you, I know you don't earn much, but I hope you get a better job someday soon, but here's a tip, I hope it helps!"
Fat Tony...answer me this...PLEASE, and answer Loren this: what harm is there in being a decent human being? You argue that you won't tip miserable servers (maybe they're miserable already because of people like you?), so maybe you should just kill yourself now, because you are clearly miserable. Why not tip them? In "Anger Management", the Doctor says "There are 2 types of anger, explosive and implosive. The explosive person is the woman who yells at the cashier all day. The implosive person is the cashier who takes the abuse and later on shoots up the store."
So in that case, let's put this into a Columbine-ish perspective. Don't tip them, and they might lose it. Either you'll find nasty or deadly surprises in your Fish 'n' Chips, or you'll find the exit is blocked by a miserable gun-toting server.
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2004-05-14 11:08:47 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
I agree.
Submitted by KoolMang (user info) at 2004-05-14 10:58:47 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Who wants to murder Fat Tony? I seriously think this fat fuck doesn't deserve to live, because he's an example of the shit customers...
...or, better yet, we convince the Mafia to force him into being a waiter!
After 2 years, he comes back and tells us his opinions on tips.
Submitted by hendrixjrr (user info) at 2004-05-14 10:54:29 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
My only problem with tipping is that waiters/waitresses bitch about not getting big enough tips, but if you ask them why they don't get another job, they'll say that they make more money than they could at any other job. Well they should quit bitching.
Submitted by lojope (user info) at 2004-05-14