Think Twice, Vote Once: An Übertorial (Canadians Only) (1037 hits)
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Submitted by Quasiplasmohedron (View user info) at 2004-06-24 23:01:32 EDT
Think Twice Before Voting: A Vote for the Liberals is a Vote for the Conservatives
Yes, you read that correctly. Unless you support Stephen Harper there is only one real choice: vote NDP. Since the Liberals have only a slightly better chance of winning a majority than I do of waking up next to Britney Spears (the famous 'singer,' not the 300lb homosexual transvestite who lives in #4B), they are only stealing votes from the NDP, and helping Harper get into power. If, by some fluke, the Liberals did manage to win, they'd be almost as bad as Harper anyway. Paul Martin is a Conservative in Liberal clothing; his record on healthcare, the environment, education, etc. speaks for itself. Sure, he probably won't make abortion and same-sex marriage illegal, but if Harper did that there's no way he'd be reelected - the Liberals would be back in power and undoing those laws would be a top priority.
The Liberal campaign is based on one thing: fear. They hope to scare us into voting for them as the only way to "stop Stephen Harper." But I call bullshit. Why should you vote for a party that's only 2 degrees left of Harper's Insane Clown Posse? Remember, this is the same party that's spent the last decade throwing away our money while sparring with the provincial governments and gutting social programs (do public schools count as a "social program?"). It's true that they accomplished some good things internationally - but those were all because of Jean Chrétien's diplomatic skills. Paul Martin, in contrast, possesses all the charm and social graces of an introverted barnacle. His signature technique during the debates was to hold his hand up in the face of whoever was speaking and try to drown them out with random, illogical attacks while jiggling his flabby cheeks (for those who missed out on the thrill of watching 4 old guys in suits arguing like 6-year-olds, I'm *not* making this up).
Think about it this way: the only way the Conservatives can win a majority is if most of us vote for them, which doesn't seem likely at this point, and they've already ruled out a coalition with any of the other parties (as if they'd have any chance of working out their differences with the NDP or the BQ anyway). So, their only shot at power would be a coalition with the Liberals, which I can't see either party sticking to for long (not because they're far apart politically, but because of the rivalry [read hatred] between them), but this only provides a further reason not to vote for the Liberals. The most likely scenario is a Liberal-NDP minority government (with possible support from the BQ), but to make that work the NDP needs a strong voice, which means they need your votes.
No party is perfect and that's especially true in this election, but the NDP under Layton represent the only chance for a government that's both competent and moderate.
Here's some food for thought: if Martin were not a member of the Liberal Party, who do you think he'd vote for - Chrétien or Harper?
(In case any Americans came to this post by accident, here's a [probably] unrelated picture.)
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Submitted by Thirty_Four_Eggs (user info) at 2005-03-20 15:06:32 EST (#)
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-2 for the shithouse post
+4 for INSANE CLOWN POSSE!!!!
Submitted by Jo_of_the_golden_P (user info) at 2005-03-20 14:58:03 EST (#)
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Hahah
+1 for mocking Paul Martin and Stephen Harper.
+1 for the article.
+10000 just cuz
Submitted by kai070169 (user info) at 2004-11-25 01:21:51 EST (#)
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Ha ha all the Canucks are here.....
Submitted by Batsu (user info) at 2004-10-03 02:23:28 EDT (#)
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"Submitted by Quasiplasmohedron (user info) at 2004-10-03 02:18:08 (#)
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I suck, and I can't use paint worth of shit."
Submitted by HelloMello (user info) at 2004-09-23 01:00:49 EDT (#)
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Woooooooooooooooooooo0ooooo0oooo0o0ooooooooooooo0o
Submitted by Degreeless_Capibara (user info) at 2004-08-20 21:45:44 EDT (#)
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Cool-ass name.
Submitted by dirtygook (user info) at 2004-08-10 19:30:34 EDT (#)
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PING PONG TING TONG CHEECH AND CHONG!
Submitted by heater (user info) at 2004-08-10 19:13:13 EDT (#)
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This is definitly a case of reluctant Heat...
Submitted by Quasiplasmohedron (user info) at 2004-08-08 20:05:27 EDT (#)
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When Martin took Canada Steamship Lines international, he lowered the Canadian flag on three of his ships, and replaced it with the flag of the Bahamas - a "flag of convenience" country with lower labour standards. The cheaper foreign crews were in - the Canadians were out.
"It was a very black day when Paul Martin re-flagged the ships," says Greg Glasner, who once worked for CSL, "I'd say it was the end of an era."
http://www.cbc.ca/disclosure/archives/030401_csl/flags.html
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In 1992, a year before he became Finance Minister, CSL set up five companies in Liberia, Africa, a tax haven of choice in the offshore shipping business.
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And while CSL was setting up its shell companies in Liberia, Canada's Auditor General was trying to shut down those kinds of tax havens. Denis Desautels said they were costing the government hundreds of millions of dollars
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In 1994, the new Finance Minister, Paul Martin, took action: "Certain Canadian corporations are not paying an appropriate level of tax," Martin said in his budge speech. "Accordingly, we are taking measures to prevent companies from using foreign affiliates to avoid paying Canadian taxes which are otherwise due."
But Martin didn't shut down all the tax havens. Across the Atlantic, he kept Barbados open, and that's exactly where CSL went next.
http://www.cbc.ca/disclosure/archives/030401_csl/main.html
Submitted by shitfuck (user info) at 2004-08-08 19:45:39 EDT (#)
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I just re-read this, you don't have a fucking clue what you're talking about.
Vote NDP, don't make me laugh. Nothing would get done.
Submitted by Socialist_Joe (user info) at 2004-07-31 04:56:17 EDT (#)
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malarkey
Submitted by Fuckface_Jones (user info) at 2004-07-11 21:21:26 EDT (#)
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captain foamy just announced john edwards as his running mate. kerry has to find someone else after edwards jumped ship to foamy's surging campaign. A recent AP poll showed Foamy with 86% and Bush and Kerry with dicks in their mouths.
http://geocities.com/captain_foamy
Get your mouth sex here!
Submitted by gibberish (user info) at 2004-07-11 21:09:38 EDT (#)
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Thanks for an election update.
I haven't checked it out in a few weeks and was wondering whats goin on north of the border.
Submitted by Quasiplasmohedron (user info) at 2004-07-11 20:57:50 EDT (#)
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Actually it depends entirely on your riding. The NDP claims that they lost some ridings to the conservatives because NDP voters voted Liberal out of fear.
Submitted by TheToddfather (user info) at 2004-07-11 15:11:50 EDT (#)
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Great post, with some good points.
I am an NDPer too, but this time round I had to vote Liberal. I know... I need to shower for months in order to become clean again. Oh, it was one of the hardest things I've done....
The fact was, people just weren't going to vote NDP. I have no clue why people chose a freaky Conservative Christian party as their only viable choice. It sickens me to see how the west voted for such crap, mostly because it happens to come out of the west. BARF... What, if the west formed a Nazi party are you going to jump that band-wagon too? Fools.
I had to do my part to stop the conservative party from taking hold of this country. I'd do anything to prevent that slime from taking over our nation. Nothing more than American ass kissing, antiquated ideals and a western "we aren't treated fairly" bit to wrap it all up nicely.
I am from BC. So, spare me the "eastern fuck" comments.
Sad election though. If Representation by Population was in place, the NDP would have substancially more seats than they currently do...
Submitted by comicbookguy (user info) at 2004-07-07 21:14:19 EDT (#)
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I say another election gets called in less than two years because jack shit will be done with this minority government
I move to pie all Canadian government officials; Klein got pied; Chretien got pied; who wouldn't want to pie Giuseppe
Submitted by sublime (user info) at 2004-07-07 21:10:08 EDT (#)
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where are you from?
Submitted by Doma at 2004-07-02 00:23:04 EDT (#)
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Surprisingly, Quasimodo proved to be more than just shitting in the wind (and I live in Alberta- ie. right wing hell).
I've voted NDP every time for the last 14 years and I keep getting the same reaction from people - getting spat on in the face as if I'm trying to turn Alberta into a communist stronghold. When will people learn; isn't Ralph Klein enough of an indication that we nee the Conservatives out of our fucking province? sigh. I need a lie down.
Submitted by Quasiplasmohedron (user info) at 2004-06-25 14:38:32 EDT (#)
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"Does anyone remember the last time that they got in and lost a ton of money, all the while making government about as large as possible?"
Uh, no... because that's never happened. We've never had an NDP prime minister.
I do remember when BC had an NDP government, and things were ok until Gordon Campbell and the Liberals came in.
Submitted by Jesus_Loves_TwEE (user info) at 2004-06-25 12:53:30 EDT (#)
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Marijuana party wooo, yeah, woooooo....
Submitted by vodka7tall (user info) at 2004-06-25 11:27:07 EDT (#)
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Stephen Harper = Android.
The guy looks like he's had one too many botox injections. Seriously dude, can you honestly not move ANY of the muscles in your face? Not to mention that plastic-looking Ken-doll hair. WTF? And what's with this anti-gay, anti-weed platform he's running? Rock tha ganja, and send this asswipe packing.
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Paul Martin = Thief & Liar.
Enough said.
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Gilles Duceppe = ?????
If I could understand a fucking word that came out of this guy's mouth, I might be able to comment. And I'm fluent in French. Go figure.
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Jack Layton = Jackass, aka My Kinda People.
Saw this guy doing the worst ever "Irish Jig" with a bunch of wacko's on Canada AM this morning. If you've got the cohones to get on tv and make a total jackass of yourself while jumping like a monkey to some redneck playing a fiddle, well that's just about enough to get my vote. And he's all for decriminalizing the maryjane. You da man, Jack!
**** V O T E N D P !!! *****
Submitted by potatomanjack (user info) at 2004-06-25 09:55:59 EDT (#)
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No No No...
First of all, you couldn't pay me enough to vote for the NDP. Does anyone remember the last time that they got in and lost a ton of money, all the while making government about as large as possible? Well, guess what? If they get in again, it will be the same thing all over again. Personally, I'd rather have the crooked Liberals in power just because at least under them, we'll continue to have a country that has a SURPLUS, and pays down the debt.
Submitted by wazzawazzayo (user info) at 2004-06-25 08:46:33 EDT (#)
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The NDP platform is the only one that makes sense. The last thing we need is more privatization in our healthcare and American missiles in our country. If we can get Layton in with a minority, he will be able to oppose these two things that both the Liberals and Conservatives support. Plus, he will also be pushing for stricter environmental controls and lotsa windmills. Money to the cities is not a bad idea either; Toronto is fucking crumbling right now.
Submitted by shitfuck (user info) at 2004-06-25 04:02:33 EDT (#)
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I'm a card carrying Liberal. I work with our Deputy Prime Minister, Anne Maclellan. I'm in her riding.
Really.
Submitted by Creepy_guy (user info) at 2004-06-25 03:00:58 EDT (#)
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"(for those who missed out on the thrill of watching 4 old guys in suits arguing like 6-year-olds, I'm *not* making this up)."
I actually sat down and watched the televised debates to hopefully gain a better understanding of just what the hell was going on. The whole thing was a big joke; a lot of people I know watched them and a lot of us were left more confused than ever. It just seemed like no real conclusion were made, or anything. Could just be me though and I'm a pretty big nut.
Submitted by Quasiplasmohedron (user info) at 2004-06-25 00:55:42 EDT (#)
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Heh, I guess it's NPD in French.
Submitted by Quasiplasmohedron (user info) at 2004-06-25 00:20:38 EDT (#)
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FYI: It's NDP not NPD - "New Democratic Party." I agree that Quebecers tend to be relatively leftist, and I certainly can't see them voting for the Alberta-based Conservatives.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2004-06-24 23:44:47 EDT (#)
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I agree that Martin and Harper are pretty much the same shit painted differently.
As a Quebecer, I also think the Bloc Quebecois is a problem. This party has done nothing but rant and whine in Ottawa. Yeah, it's all about democracy. But it has no USEFUL purpose whatsoever.
However, Le Bloc has substansial support here. If it dissolved, I think french quebecers would tend to go for the NPD - from many different opinions I've heard. This would give a significant boost to the NPD seeing the Number of Seats in Quebec (75 out of 301 ref: http://www.cbc.ca/news/features/redistributions020313.html) It would also give the credibility that this party so desperatly need.
Although the NPD could come out as a "french" party which would lead some anglos to turn their back on it.
Aaah, fuck speculations. It's already complicated enough. Let's just hope the Conservative won't make it. I'm voting NPD.
Submitted by Rixes (user info) at 2004-06-24 23:07:04 EDT (#)
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When did hookers start charging by the Square Yard? P.S. Canada sucks.