The Reality of Religion. (15042 hits)
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Submitted by The Toddfather <thetoddfather.at.hotmail.com> (View user info) at 2004-07-09 18:40:27 EDT
Warning: A fairly long rant on religion...
Why the fuck is religion still present in educated civilizations?!?!? Are we all a bunch of retarded monkeys? How much evidence do we need before people will say, "Boy have I been taken for a ride"?
People, you need to wake up and smell the frappuccino! This is it! You're living it now, and when it's gone, it's gone.
If there is a god, he sure as hell doesn't want you to know he exists. Think about it. We've got atheists, agnostics, more different branches of Christianity than I can fucking count, Judaism, Buddhists, Islam, Taoists and Sikhs alive today. A few dead religions, which have never been proven wrong I might add, are Greek and Roman religion, Native, Egyptian and Viking religions.
Not one of these religions has an ounce of proof to support them. Not one. Converselly, you can't disprove any of them either. In other words, there is as much evidence to believe that the Roman Gods like Jupiter and Mars existed, or the Egyptian God Ra, or the Viking Gods Odin and Thor, existed, as there is to support the existence of your white-bearded old man in the sky. That being said, there is an equal amount of evidence to say the Universe was created by a giant Sperm Whale conducting a project for his school Science Fair competition.
Prove me wrong!
A lot of people say stupid shit like, "I have faith" or "God is testing you by challenging your faith." Fuck-you! I've read one Christian freak online that claims that dinosaurs never existed. That's right. They never existed. God, he claims, put the bones there to challenge your faith.
What, did God get on his Red Phone and dial you up to tell you this? If not, you're putting words into the mouth of your supreme being. The lengths some morons will go to in order to remain in denial amazes me.
Faith is a funny word. I ask them, "have you ever FELT God?" Nope. There are millions of people out there right now who've never had any form of religious experience, yet, they remain "faithful." Then there are the wackos who get in a car accident and live, maybe even against all odds. What do they come out saying? We've all known one of these. "God must have a plan for me" or "I guess it just wasn't my time". I hate these people for two reasons. 1) If the emergency workers wouldn't have saved your sorry ass, you would have died. 2) I guess God doesn't have a "plan" for the 3 year old girl who's raped and killed by some serial killer.
I hate religion. Why? Because it cheats people out of life.
People who believe in God and Heaven can accept going through life in a decrepit shanty in North Dakota because they will some day be in paradise. Another life down the Christian drain-pipe. Imagine what people would do tomorrow if we could actually prove God doesn't exist. At first there would probably be chaos because human beings in denial have a hard time letting go. But think about it. If you knew in your heart that life was your gift, not an afterlife, would it be such a terrible thing to go back to school and get a job you love? For some it would be. But then you have to ask yourself, why do people do all the things they wanted to do with their lives when they get something terminal? They know they're running out of time. So, we can assume if you TRULY believed life was all the time you had, you'd make the fucking most of it. Why wouldn't you?
There will always be the people who'll throw their lives away. Some will even end them voluntarily, but how many are we losing to the religious apathy machine? Before I get a million angry responses, I should clarify a few things. Some religions don't create the zombies that others do. Some are mainly spiritual, and many don't offer an afterlife. Religions like Buddhism attempt to denounce materialism and greed. Christianity too has some healthy values built into it. However, my question is, do you need religion to be a good person? Absolutely not.
I believe we've evolved beyond such beliefs. Science has come far enough now, we can be pretty sure every religion man has invented was a sham. People hang on to them because they are afraid. Afraid of death. Afraid that death is the end. There are only two truths the human race has devised about death. 1) We will all die. And 2) No one on Earth has any clue what will happen when it happens to them.
Many people who have near-death experiences have claimed to see a bright light or a tunnel. So? This could be anything. The brain does strange things when it is starved of oxygen or dying. If I saw a monkey urinating on my head while I had a Near-Death experience, should I think this was something from beyond? Even if this was a tunnel to the afterlife, what makes you think it's a Christian afterlife? Like I said earlier, maybe this God guy doesn't want you to know until your actually dead. That makes sense. But it's too vague for humans, because it's still not a definite thing.
Other people say, "sure there's evidence of God, look at my story book, it's full of examples where God talked to Moses and stuff." Hmmmmm, I can walk down to East-Hastings (The slums of Vancouver) and talk to a good many people who claim they've talked to God. Why is it you are sooooo sure they haven't? He's not good enough? Because whenever you talk to him, you don't get an answer? Maybe God hates you. Maybe God likes talking to the down and out. Maybe he gives them hope. The point is, you can't prove or disprove these allegations. But you feel you have some right to pass judgment. Why? Because you don't REALLY believe God talks to anyone. Why? Because you know deep down this whole thing is an old story passed down through the ages to give people hope. Not only that, but I'd be willing to bet that the overwhelming majority of people that consider themselves "Christian" haven't even read their "holy" text.
And then there are the religious people I can only label as the Self-Inventing Religious people. These are the morons that pick and choose aspects of their religion that they believe in without any consultation with their master. Did God give you permission to claim Gays aren't wrong? Hey, it's your religion. Not mine. You can't be a Christian and claim it is ok to be gay. There is plenty of good stuff to be had in the Bible. Read Leviticus. God apparently has an opinion on women during their period. During your period, you, according to God, are "Unclean". Everything you touch is unclean. And when your period is over, you will remain unclean until you go before an altar and poor the blood of a small bird over it.... Sounds like a great outing for the whole family!! No one has ever given any of you permission to pick and choose what you want to believe. If you're a Christian, BE A CHRISTIAN! God wrote the fucking book for a reason.
For those who want the truth, God didn't write any book. It was assembled by many different men over MANY MANY years. Much of the early stuff came from scrolls. Christianity was extremely small when Christ was crucified, and few, if any Christians went to it. Many other people were crucified by the Romans for similar reasons. No one came to his birth. And few historians believe Christianity would even be around today if it weren't for the Roman Emperor Constantine, who made a political decision to make Christianity the religion of the empire.
Which brings me to prayer. I can guarantee you, if there is a Christian God; he hates me pretty bad right now. I can also guarantee you, if you and I pray every night for the rest of our lives, I will have about the same amount of prayers answered as you do.... Why is that?
"God works in mysterious ways."
You got that right.
What exactly is the mysterious reason why a one year old child has to die painfully? Why oh why does God stand by while the humans who are supposed to be closest to God rape little boys? But as Bob Dylan said in his song titled, With God on Our Side, "you never ask questions, when God's on your side".
User Reviews
Submitted by Arsenal (user info) at 2004-07-13 14:12:13 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
organized religion is a load of shit that society needs to move beyond.
The concept of God cannot be entirely thrown out though. I didn't beleive in any type of god for a long time, but my biggest issue with it was that picture in my head of some white guy with a beard and robe in the sky. But, to me, God is more of a concept, not so much a being, but an entity that is not only all powerful, but is everything itself.
Only reason I share any of that is becasue I think in modern times, people need to determine what god is for themselves. Combine all you know, and come up with your own descripition of god. Don't just beleive what the bible says, but borrow what you find important from it.
ToddFather- I think you should read 'The Brothers Karamazanov' (sp?) Long, but good book. There is a line in that goes something like 'If god doesn't exsist, then it would be necessary for man to create him. Whether God created man or man created god, does not matter' A lot of people NEED something to beleive in, and that is one of the very few good aspects of relgion. I personally think that it is because they can't find reason enough for themselves and people cannot by any means find a way to believe in Mankind itself. Blah blah blah, i will shut up now
Submitted by jme7551 (user info) at 2004-07-13 13:48:10 EDT (#)
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this is such shit i think i can smell it through my computer.
Submitted by domenad (user info) at 2004-07-13 13:42:39 EDT (#)
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You are both tiresome and boring, you pseudo-intellectual cunt. This post, while extremely useful to insomniacs, is useless to me and all of uber.
Submitted by Chief_Rugger (user info) at 2004-07-13 13:39:06 EDT (#)
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Submitted by AlahAckbar (user info) at 2004-07-13 13:28:04 (#)
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You talk about having a civilized conversation with other people.
"Are we all a bunch of retarded monkeys?"
Then you procede to insult people for their faith. Now, I am probably the person most opposed to JC, the latest religious nut. The reason?
He tries to push his beliefs on other people.
Only slightly less agrivating in my book are people who insult other people for their beliefs.
-2 for you.
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Finished reading the post, couldn't be anymore with ALahackbar on this one.
Submitted by Chief_Rugger (user info) at 2004-07-13 13:37:46 EDT (#)
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I think it's more of a matter that religion just doesn't factor into modern life anymore, even in ethics decisions. way back when, your god was your life, hell even all of 50 years ago it was a major player in every decision of everyone's life (just ask your grandparents). Nowadays we're wiser and realise that we need to think for ourselves and loved ones instead of counting on some "Great Invisible Being" to catch us when we fall. But thats just my opinion, I could be a dumbass......
Submitted by AlahAckbar (user info) at 2004-07-13 13:28:04 EDT (#)
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You talk about having a civilized conversation with other people.
"Are we all a bunch of retarded monkeys?"
Then you procede to insult people for their faith. Now, I am probably the person most opposed to JC, the latest religious nut. The reason?
He tries to push his beliefs on other people.
Only slightly less agrivating in my book are people who insult other people for their beliefs.
-2 for you.
Submitted by I_Have_a_Kristen_Fetish (user info) at 2004-07-12 21:51:43 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
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Submitted by TheToddfather (user info) at 2004-07-12 21:36:01 EDT (#)
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Fetish,
I don't want problems with you. The whole thing was stupid. I didn't know it reached Bart. I know you pretty much hate every word I write. Keep posting "god you suck as a writer" stuff. I think you're a funny guy after reading your stuff. I don't see why you can't just see this whole thing as a big mix up.... I'm a rookie... Didn't get the "Fetish" thing... Maybe Bart will kill all the posts in his good time..
I look forward to reading your future posts. Even if you give me -2s. Take care. I need a break. Back in a day or two
Submitted by I_Have_a_Kristen_Fetish (user info) at 2004-07-12 21:22:12 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
I guess you won. Bart removed all my ratings and left the ones from the 4 users you made.
Submitted by TheToddfather (user info) at 2004-07-12 20:11:54 EDT (#)
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maggot,
nice point... Sad I forgot to put it on my post.
Submitted by maggot (user info) at 2004-07-12 20:05:17 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
the bible was made to keep people "In line" in the future, so things wouldnt get out of hand, i think. 666.
Submitted by TheToddfather (user info) at 2004-07-12 19:29:52 EDT (#)
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Let it go...
And stop spamming. This Fetish user is new. So, you're still spamming.
Submitted by Fetish at 2004-07-12 19:13:22 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Just don't paint this story of how you're a victim.
You spammed my posts first.
You used 4 different usernames.
You spammed more than 30 posts.
I think you did a terrible job of explaining your part in it. 10 does not equal 30.
Submitted by TheToddfather (user info) at 2004-07-12 18:50:30 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Jesus man, let it go.
We both did the same thing. You are just as guilty of it as I am. It was stupid. Move on.
I think I did a pretty good job of explaining what happened, and my part in the affair.
Not to mention, you fixed your rating and then some. I haven't fixed mine. Only yours remain on my posts.
The whole thing was childish on both sides, and the most tedious thing I've ever done.
Submitted by Fetish at 2004-07-12 18:38:07 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Again ou might want to mention that you spammed over 30 of my posts with 4 usernames.
Submitted by TheToddfather (user info) at 2004-07-12 15:19:03 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
I should comment on the Spam Issue as well. The matter should be cleared up. I hope. The sad thing is, it was all over a stupid misinterpretation on my part. A misinterpretation of a stupid comment on my Fetus for Food Program post. It was simply "Ban Fetish". I saw that and though, "WTF? He didn't even read the post! He thinks this article is Fetish? How sick is this guy?" So I went to his first post, didn't read it, and posted one "Ban Fetish" on his.
I'm new to Uber. So, many of you are probably laughing at the sad fact that I didn't realize "Fetish" was a user. Not my brightest moment, I assure you. So, the Fetish user saw it, and got pretty insulted, and so would I.
I don't care what my rating is on my posts. I pretty much expect a lot of people to hate them. And they do. Others don't. That's what it's all about for me. However, I had just posted my first personal work, which was important to me.
One thing that I was blown away by was the fact that the very first review of my House of Cards short story was by a person who appears to have the same illness. The story makes no mention of what the main character has. Zero. Yet she was the first to find it.
I have read a few of her posts. They are Bar None the best writing I have found yet on Uber. Go and read them.
Anyway. All was well, until, Fetish saw I had a new post up. So, BAM! "Ban Fetish" returns. About two seconds before that I had this huge sinking feeling and began thinking, "Oh god, I shouldn't have posted that." Although the story is 80% fiction, it is pretty close to home. Suddenly I wanted it off Uber. Not possible as far as I know.
So, when the page was spammed I wasn't too pleased. I went to his pages and did the same for something like 10 pages. Stupid. Not to mention I didn't even take the time to read his posts. I'm sure the guy has several things that are personal to him.
So, another Ape comes on and threatens to kill me and my family. The whole thing continues until I realize I am acting like a 15 year old. "What am I doing?"
So, I post on his page saying, "You win." And presto, it stops.
Submitted by TheToddfather (user info) at 2004-07-11 21:15:32 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Due to a spam attack launched by I_Have_a_Kristen_Fetish, I wont be posting anymore. You put some work into something, and some piece of shit comes along and wants to be an asshole. I haven't got time to put up with this.
He launched the two user names you see that resemble my username in order to drop my rating. On to different things I guess.
Submitted by TheToddfather (user info) at 2004-07-11 19:37:32 EDT (#)
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Have the balls to put your name up if you're going to spam. Pussy.
Submitted by I_Have_a_Kristen_Fetish (user info) at 2004-07-11 19:00:53 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Submitted by TheToddfather (user info) at 2004-07-11 18:59:36 (#)
Ranking: -2
Submitted by I_Have_a_Kristen_Fetish (user info) at 2004-07-11 18:45:41 (#)
Ranking: -2
Yeah, ban fetish.
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Bitch.
Submitted by Quasiplasmohedron (user info) at 2004-07-10 23:44:09 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Yeah. I don't quite agree 100% but overall this was good.
Submitted by polly (user info) at 2004-07-10 22:53:05 EDT (#)
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points were made that were good.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2004-07-10 20:52:15 EDT (#)
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hey, thanks for the shout out, Todd.
Submitted by Gnome (user info) at 2004-07-10 19:15:32 EDT (#)
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Submitted by beeg412 (user info) at 2004-07-09 20:32:07 (#)
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As a person who has many buddhist leanings, I agree with every word you say. And I would be a buddhist but I dispise religion so much that I can't think of myself as being a religious person.
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i'm liking the buddhist philosophy too but despise religeon.
good job Tad. a little lengthy (not something i'm sure you're used to hearing) but that's probably my ADD talking.
clean
Submitted by TheToddfather (user info) at 2004-07-10 18:08:04 EDT (#)
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For more beautiful holy scripture, visit my friend electrictoothsyndrome for a healthy sermon http://www.ubersite.com/m/38031
Don't forget to pray kids!! Cause, you never know, God might want YOU to win the lottery!!
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2004-07-10 15:55:23 EDT (#)
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It is NOT moronic to question....it is moronic NOT to question and to blindly accept as true something that cannot be proven factually.
Submitted by Ferretnose (user info) at 2004-07-10 15:49:10 EDT (#)
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A well written summation of humanity's ultimate delimma: How can there be a God when such horrible things happen?
Submitted by youarsoghey (user info) at 2004-07-10 15:34:02 EDT (#)
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For thinking you can convince people of something you believe in that requires a leap of faith. You fall in the same league as athiests to me. Moron.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2004-07-10 15:29:42 EDT (#)
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Oh yea, that reminds me, you should check out Bill Hicks' comedy...he had some funny shit to say about that dinosaur thing and Fundamentalist Christians.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2004-07-10 15:22:36 EDT (#)
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http://www.ubersite.com/m/38031
Dude, it's all CIRCLES! The only thing we can say without running the risk, no, certainty of contradicting ourselves is "I know nothing."
Funny that we would both write such similar rants referencing the book of Leviticus merely hours apart, and I swear I did not see this post until I saw your other post about American Fascism. Funny.
Submitted by fuck_conservatives at 2004-07-10 13:32:58 EDT (#)
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Finally, someone who can put 2 & 2 together and come up with the right answer (i.e. 4-for all of you jebus freaks out there).
You, Sir, are turly enlightened.
Submitted by TheToddfather (user info) at 2004-07-10 12:40:19 EDT (#)
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Glad to see there are some other sane human beings out there. The one that HAS felt God should have her head examined.
Submitted by Amy (user info) at 2004-07-09 23:57:57 EDT (#)
Ranking: -1
meh
Submitted by Skippy (user info) at 2004-07-09 23:24:47 EDT (#)
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Spot on! WAKE UP PEOPLE! Ive heard that dinosaur thing to!STUPID NAIVE FUCKS!
Submitted by beeg412 (user info) at 2004-07-09 20:32:07 EDT (#)
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As a person who has many buddhist leanings, I agree with every word you say. And I would be a buddhist but I dispise religion so much that I can't think of myself as being a religious person.
Submitted by lickalotopuss (user info) at 2004-07-09 20:17:10 EDT (#)
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eat fuck shit shave sleep drink work watch tv
what more is there? stop lookin too deep
Submitted by Istaros (user info) at 2004-07-09 20:10:47 EDT (#)
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Your bitching about the lack of proof for religious beliefs only shows that you're missing the entire point.
Submitted by RouteTwo (user info) at 2004-07-09 19:59:34 EDT (#)
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"I hate religion. Why? Because it cheats people out of life. "
Holy Hell. Excuse the pun, but I couldn't have put that better myself. I was thinking about posting something like this, but since you already did the work...keep on preaching...
Submitted by balisongphreak (user info) at 2004-07-09 19:13:27 EDT (#)
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Oh ye of little faith.
I HAVE felt God. It felt as if a normal human were touching me, putting their hands on my shoulders, but it was a much more powerful fealing than I have ever fealt. I know that it was real and there was no foul play. All you have to do is believe.
I respect your opinion as the Holy Bible instructs.
Submitted by AlwaysAnEagle (user info) at 2004-07-09 19:02:43 EDT (#)
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UNCLEAN, UNCLEAN!!!!
Not bad for a first post. I would drop the antagonistic "prove me wrongs" but other than that, a-ok with me.
Submitted by heyzues (user info) at 2004-07-09 18:54:58 EDT (#)
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I hope you die and go to heaven.
Submitted by Yes (user info) at 2004-07-09 18:50:54 EDT (#)
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I concur.
Submitted by shitfuck (user info) at 2004-07-09 18:43:39 EDT (#)
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I didn't read this because I'm too busy dying from testicular cancer.