Flag for Koolmang (812 hits)
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Submitted by legallady (View user info) at 2004-08-09 16:05:03 EDT
On July 4th, I was in Vicksburg.
It was the anniversary of the surrender
of the city to the Union.
(Apologies to Fetish for "stealing" his travel photo idea!)
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Submitted by CountNoCount (user info) at 2004-08-10 10:45:37 EDT (#)
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Submitted by legallady (user info) at 2004-08-09 18:55:47 (#)
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Countnocount:
I am a "proud" Southern. I don't think the battle flag should
equal racism. The problem is all the redneck cracker boys who
bandish it about with racist intent. And the political banter about it
in the past 10 years making it a symbol of hate. No matter what you and I
think...it is a racist symbol.
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Where are these people of whom you speak? As I type, my eyes cannot resist the temptation to avert themselves to my office window, where I expect to see scores of "redneck cracker boys" "bandishing" [sic] Confederate flags "with racist intent," no doubt looking for a "nigra" to lynch. It's armageddon, I say! Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies, rivers and seas boiling, forty years of darkness, earthquakes, volcanoes, the dead rising from the grave, human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together...IT'S MASS HYSTERIA!
(PAUSE)
Now, if you are equating "redneck cracker boys" with any of a number of white supremacist groups, then I agree that their impact on public perception of Confederate imagery has been detrimental, to say the least. But, you will find white supremacist groups scattered throughout this land, and you will find that many of them brandish the American flag instead of or in addition to the battle flag. So, is the American flag racist? Ask a Native American if it's racist, if you can find one.
We head down a slippery slope if we begin to assign levels of acceptability to iconic imagery. You may recall that the Nazis identified Jews as undesirable by placing a Star of David on their person. To brand a person "racist" or even a "redneck cracker boy" just for displaying a Confederate icon is analagous to branding a person as a homosexual just because he wears an earring or a pink shirt.
I don't know where you have seen anyone brandishing the flag with racist intent. I'm not saying it didn't or doesn't happen, or that you do not have a right to feel the way you do (although deep inside I cannot respect such an outlook). All that I can say is that I've lived every day of my life in the South - I didn't even have an opportunity to exit the boundaries of the Carolinas until I was 20 - and I've never seen this, not once. If my lack of travel in the world makes my opinion uninformed and naive, then so be it.
Should blacks be offended by the flag? It's their prerogative; they may feel as they please. Hell, if I were black, I may be offended, as well. But, I'm not black, and I'm not offended, and I'll be damned if any one person or any group of extremists from any camp (pro or con) is going to dictate how I live my life.
I applaud, for example, the actions of my native South Carolina in removing the battle flag from atop the State House and placing it on a memorial on the State House grounds. It had no relevance in its former place; its placement there many years ago (by a current liberal Democrat and US Congressman) was an overt sign of resistance to the Civil Rights movement. It is where it needs to be, and yet that still is not good enough for those from the "anti-" camp. We are told that we must forget who we are, forget the massive loss of human life associated with losing some of this state's finest men not because they owned slaves (by and large, the fighters did not) but because we were under attack, and march to the beat of the drum of political correctness. Who tells us these things? Why, organizations such as the NAACP do, and that is why South Carolina has been under a tourism boycott from the NAACP for at least 5 years now. Of course, something funny happened...
Tourism went up. People kept going to the beaches. Black athletes still come to our state to play football at Clemson and USC. Black bikers still spend a week at Myrtle Beach every summer. Life goes on.
Public perception does not always equal reality.
Submitted by legallady (user info) at 2004-08-09 18:55:47 EDT (#)
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Countnocount:
I am a "proud" Southern. I don't think the battle flag should
equal racism. The problem is all the redneck cracker boys who
bandish it about with racist intent. And the political banter about it
in the past 10 years making it a symbol of hate. No matter what you and I
think...it is a racist symbol.
Submitted by I_Have_a_Kristen_Fetish (user info) at 2004-08-09 18:27:42 EDT (#)
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I probably won't post until tommorrow, so you'll have to wait to retaliate.
Submitted by I_Have_a_Kristen_Fetish (user info) at 2004-08-09 18:27:02 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by FilthyAssistant (user info) at 2004-08-09 17:09:36 EDT (#)
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I'm too English to understand this. American history? Run away!
Submitted by CountNoCount (user info) at 2004-08-09 17:01:51 EDT (#)
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OOPS!
Submitted by disAbled (user info) at 2004-08-09 16:35:23 (#)
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On a side note.
The confederate flag stood more for States' Rights than it did for slavery and racism.
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I guess that history is written by the "winners."
With this crowd, Confederate = racist. I could understand if someone claimed that one of the Confederate NATIONAL flags was racist, because such a flag would represent in some small way the POLITICAL underpinnings of the war. The battle flag is a soldier's flag and, as such, represents sacrifice. That is why it is so important to so many.
I'm through now.
Submitted by CountNoCount (user info) at 2004-08-09 16:59:58 EDT (#)
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Submitted by disAbled (user info) at 2004-08-09 16:35:23 (#)
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On a side note.
The confederate flag stood more for States' Rights than it did for slavery and racism.
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I guess that history is written by the "winners."
With this crowd, Confederate = racist. I could understand if someone claimed that one of the Confederate NATIONAL flags was racist, because such a flag would represent in some small way the POLITICAL
Submitted by disAbled (user info) at 2004-08-09 16:35:23 EDT (#)
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On a side note.
The confederate flag stood more for States' Rights than it did for slavery and racism.
Submitted by KoolMang (user info) at 2004-08-09 16:11:15 EDT (#)
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I hated the Confederates, though, AND the South!
I prefer a more Northern racism style :P
Submitted by legallady (user info) at 2004-08-09 16:09:44 EDT (#)
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am I confusing you with SHITFUCK???
Submitted by legallady (user info) at 2004-08-09 16:09:09 EDT (#)
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Oh Yeah...and I shouldn't forget the hitwhore factor involved
in using your name!!!!
Submitted by legallady (user info) at 2004-08-09 16:08:18 EDT (#)
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It is a homemade confederate battle flag...and you seem to post
about being a proud racist!!
Submitted by KoolMang (user info) at 2004-08-09 16:06:30 EDT (#)
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Thank you, but what inspired the title?