Micheal Moore you're so clever........Oh wait.... (4542 hits)
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Submitted by Huber the Nose<paulh82.at.bluewin.ch> (View user info) at 2004-10-15 05:09:13 EDT
Thats it. Thats enough Micheal. I know you think you're so god damn clever with your little „Would you send your kid to war" question. Are you fucking retarded? NO parent would EVER sign up to send their child to war, even if they agreed and supported the cause. They might sign themselves up, but they would never ever send their child. The soldiers who went there signed themselves up. They knew the risks. They were aware of the fact that they would have to do what they were told, even if they didn't agree.
Im so sick of this jerkoff fucking twisting shit around to get his point across. His movies are blatant, disgusting (yet entertaining) propaganda. I cant believe this man won an Oscar for his „documentary". Last time I checked, documentaries don't contain "facts" and "documents" that are altered, fabricated, or taken out of context That is a fiction.
An example: In „Bowling for Columbine", Moore explains how after the shootings in Columbine, Heston and the NRA show up for a big gun rally. Moore plays the sound bite of Heston saying „From my cold, dead hands!", leading the viewer to beilieve that Heston said that at the ANNUAL gun meeting held after the shooting. Heston actually said that a year later at another meeting when he recieved some musket for some reason. Of course Moore says he edited the film like that to introduce Heston as a gun nut, but are we really suppose to believe that Moore doesnt realise that's how people will interpret the scene? Of course he does. If your showing one thing, and playing a sound to it, the viewer will connect the two.
I wish someone would make a „documentary" about Micheal Moore, taking a bunch of shit he said and did out of context to make him look like an asshole, because that's all he is.
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Submitted by mattseanbachman (user info) at 2006-01-20 16:23:03 EST (#)
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I totally agree. Michael Moore is filth, and it's sad that so many people buy into his crappy book and crappier movies.
Submitted by Jungle_Jimanee (user info) at 2004-12-03 13:04:31 EST (#)
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"Submitted by Iago (user info) at 2004-11-24 07:00:14 (#)
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I aggree with this 100% percent. People discuss propoganda for the war in Iraq, but fail to mention Moor's documentaries which were propaganda in themselves.He selectively choose portions of fact to prove what he wants to.
I have a deep-seated aversion to liberals. They are far more dangerous than any other group in society today.
Liberal, as described by websters dictionary is : 'liberals - people who allow their ability to see detailed complexity in an issue to mislead them into thinking that they also understand the bigger picture.'
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Does it really say that? That's really scary (I also call shenanigans), a friend of mine has a English dictionary from the time when England had an empire. It drips with unconcious racism and mysogeny, talks about "lesser" races and all that.
The label "Liberal" means to me someone who feels that it is wrong for someone to interfere with someone else, if that person is not hurting anyone else. I could go on but that is not my point, this seems to be your label for everyone who disagrees with you, I would label you as:
"people who ignore detailed complexity by applying a "catch all" label to it and because they never look past that label will never understand the big picture."
Submitted by Iago (user info) at 2004-11-24 07:22:22 EST (#)
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One more thing... Who says the Iraq war was a disaster for you Americans? I've just learned that 1000 American Servicemen have died over there, but they have killed 12,000 of thier opponents.
Thats just like leading 12-1, and it's an away fixture too.
Submitted by Kent_Weirdo (user info) at 2004-11-24 07:09:19 EST (#)
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Submitted by Iago (user info) at 2004-11-24 07:00:14 EST (#)
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I aggree with this 100% percent. People discuss propoganda for the war in Iraq, but fail to mention Moor's documentaries which were propaganda in themselves.He selectively choose portions of fact to prove what he wants to.
I have a deep-seated aversion to liberals. They are far more dangerous than any other group in society today.
Liberal, as described by websters dictionary is : 'liberals - people who allow their ability to see detailed complexity in an issue to mislead them into thinking that they also understand the bigger picture.'
Go to this post: http://www.ubersite.com/m/52161
Submitted by Huber_the_Nose (user info) at 2004-11-24 06:48:24 EST (#)
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I love how everyone assumes that because I dont like Mike Moore that I automatically like George Bush. I guess not liking either of them is out of the question.....
Submitted by dominic at 2004-11-08 18:47:03 EST (#)
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First of all, those who think Moore is a teller of the truth have not read nor seen behind the scene footage of his ridiculous movie. When he asked a ciongressman if he would send his kids to war, the congressman(in the gay film) said no. But if you are smart enough to see the rest of the footage (due to his extreme dislike of Bush, you should not take what he says as truth) the congressman said no, I dont have any kids, but I have a nephew there right now. So in the world of bull shit, I rate Micheal Moore and his "documentary" (or any other piece of work he has done), at the top of the "I think this guy needs to take the penis out of his ass and look at reality, not film making for political reasons if he doesnt really have a clue about what he is saying" charts. Let's face it, this guy hated Bush, and wanted to get at him by making a false "documentary" to change the minds of the public that believes everything that is said in the main stream media without researching the facts for themselves. Ridiculous and ignorant. Those two words describe both him and his work in plain and simple english.
Submitted by ShakingMyHead <lc.at.hotmail.com> at 2004-11-04 11:53:28 EST (#)
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What many Americans don't seem to understand is that it will now be much easier to
justify terrorism against US civilians.
It's unfortunate that 100% of Americans are going to suffer for the stupidity of 51%.
Submitted by Maryjane <let_it_bleed_666_.at.hotmail.com> at 2004-11-03 16:06:40 EST (#)
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you guys are a bunch of fuckin idiots who need to step into reality george w bush is the piece of shit not micheal moore
Submitted by SoulCaliber <Psychodragon.at.gamezonemail.com> at 2004-11-01 15:42:34 EST (#)
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YOu have no clue how mAny debates with other people about Moore He tells the truth. Like Gene Hackmen says "You can't handle the truth"
Submitted by Arsenal (user info) at 2004-10-20 16:14:50 EDT (#)
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Sorry Rad, but it's the ignorant conservatives that burn books, not the open-minded liberals.
And whats this....
http://www.ubersite.com/m/47369
Oh my, I actually did make a post to point out how that video uses techniques similar to Moore's. (You probably didn't watch it though. And if you did you probably were masturbating considering how much republicans love the term flip flop)
You probably didn't even read those reviews by those guys. They are meant to be funny and informational hence the "The author of this book is a cunt" comment. I figure someone who goes on to tell me to die in their reply, would enjoy that kind of humor. The thing you should realize though is that Ann Coulter is losing even the support of Conservatives because what she says in her books is just so fucking stupid and psycho. The point is only a Moron can read a Coulter book and not see how stupid the shit that she writes is. Just as a Moron wouldnt be able to see the fucking lies in that RNC video and at the same time criticize Michael Moore.
Submitted by boredgurl210 (user info) at 2004-10-20 13:17:48 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Random Joe at 2004-10-20 12:45:38 EDT (#)
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I can understand why people could confuse the army with a club med. I mean, all those vietnam movies, world war II movies, etc. And people would forget the army's job is to go to war.
I feel bad for all those who were suckered into joining the MILITARY and trained to shoot weapons and fight in basic training who obviously didn't realize their job is to go to war. Suckers.
Submitted by Ratty <mg89.at.yahoo.com> at 2004-10-20 12:38:23 EDT (#)
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Who's Micheal Moore ? oh, just another American who's never left his country and doesn't even have a passport !!! someone take pitty on him and shoot the poor ignorant fuck.
Submitted by undertow481 (user info) at 2004-10-20 11:27:41 EDT (#)
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No parent would ever send their child to war? My father suggested to me 2 weeks ago, that I enlist in the military... and I told him I'm not willing to die for something I don't believe in... Micheal Moore's point was that Congressmen making choices that affect the lives of the american people should put thier money where thier decisions are. They aren't willing to send thier own children but they're willing to send children of the american people who enlisted when the government made it sound like entering the military wouldn't require you to risk your life for decent pay, benefits, and a college education, and now they're dying to advance the agenda of Bush and the oil and money ejaculating, Saudi Arabian dick up his ass. So I suggest you stop bitching about Michael Moore making movies and take Bush's scaly pecker in your mouth and enlist. Have a nice day.
Submitted by HyDrA (user info) at 2004-10-20 08:55:03 EDT (#)
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I've fucking hated Michael Moore since I learned about him..he needs to die from some wasting disease...at least he'll lose some of that fucking chub off of him when it happens...+2 :)
Submitted by slowlyrotting (user info) at 2004-10-20 08:37:36 EDT (#)
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michael moore licks african cocks.
Submitted by huber the nose <paulh82.at.bluewin.ch> at 2004-10-20 08:28:12 EDT (#)
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Argh......Obviously Moore isnt the only person who takes things out of context like that, no shit the RNC does it.....I never said they didnt, or that Moore is the only one. A LOT of people/organizations do it. The problem is that he is getting national recognition as a hero of the people and such for doing it.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2004-10-20 05:31:15 EDT (#)
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And Michael Moore is still a self-serving cocksucker.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2004-10-20 05:29:27 EDT (#)
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You gotta love any intelligent person who begins their book revies with, "The author of this book is a cunt." You suck arsenal.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2004-10-20 05:26:41 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Arsenal (user info) at 2004-10-19 12:33:47 (#)
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He is a fucking filmmaker. Why does it upset you so much?
What should upset you is when the RNC does the exact same shit and nobody says anything.
http://media1.streamtoyou.com/rnc/100104v1.wmv
If you don't see why this video is a crock of shit than you are a moron. Oh yeah, it is on the Bush/Cheney webpage too.
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You are soooooo full of shit. How exactly is the RNC ad just like Moore's "documentary"? And if I cannot see why it is a crock of shit why am I a moron? Why don't you explain how it is a crock of shit? Oh yeah, have you ever bothered to read books before you burn them? Just cause I mentioned a conservative columnist's name you turned into the original roflcopter. No wonder she titled his last book "How to talk to a Liberal, If You Must". I hope you kill yourself on November 3rd.
---Love,
Rad.
Submitted by Arsenal (user info) at 2004-10-19 23:23:48 EDT (#)
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Sorry I didn't see the comment right before the one I posted. Still get a -2 though
and someone said "I'm reading this new Ann Coulter book"
hahahahahhahahahahhahahahhahahah
http://www.ruthlessreviews.com/slander.html
http://www.ruthlessreviews.com/books/treason.html
Submitted by ALINA <alina_allenbach.at.yahoo.com> at 2004-10-19 19:50:19 EDT (#)
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I so agree! W04
Submitted by daniet (user info) at 2004-10-19 19:43:42 EDT (#)
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Seriously, people saying that michael moore disgraces america in front of the whole world have it completely the wrong way around. I live in Australia, the thing that makes me think less of america is George W Bush, and the fact that AFTER YEARS OF FUCKING UP YOUR COUNTRY, AND OTHERS, YOU ARE STILL WILLING TO VOTE FOR HIM! Now thats a disgrace.
Submitted by daniet (user info) at 2004-10-19 19:35:02 EDT (#)
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Yeah it really pisses me off when people twist things around to help themselves, or even worse if they outright lie to millions of people... wait Moore didnt do that one.
Submitted by dislectic writer at 2004-10-19 17:27:30 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Thereisnogod (user info) at 2004-10-19 15:52:21 EDT (#)
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pathetic
Submitted by Random Joe at 2004-10-19 15:50:24 EDT (#)
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Didn't read all the replies, so i don't know if someone already brought this up.
There is a movie called "Fareinhype(sp?) 911" on video. It's supposed to pick Moore's movie apart and show it for what it is-propaganda. I have yet to watch it, but i've seen it on the movie rack right below Farenheit 911.
FYI
Submitted by CPL at 2004-10-19 13:00:44 EDT (#)
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I totally agree with your thoughts on this guy. If you are in the military, you catch some of the bullshit that he talks about, it kinda makes you mad, because you know the stupid civilians are buying ever bit of it and shaking there heads up and down. I'm so dissapointed at Americans lack of political knowledge, In a way all Americans in a way remind me of an 18 year old nypho airhead college freshman, who only knows about clothes and bag brands.
Frankly, i found most of this movie to be extremely raw with stupidity. This fat ass just dosnt understand what it takes to be the president, he is just pushing his own ideas. If this guy was President, or in charge of our country, he would make us all grow a disguisting beard, and there would be at least 2 mcdonalds for every person in this country.
Down with michael more and his stupid ass films, this guys is pantywaist in the entertainment industry.
Submitted by Arsenal (user info) at 2004-10-19 12:33:47 EDT (#)
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He is a fucking filmmaker. Why does it upset you so much?
What should upset you is when the RNC does the exact same shit and nobody says anything.
http://media1.streamtoyou.com/rnc/100104v1.wmv
If you don't see why this video is a crock of shit than you are a moron. Oh yeah, it is on the Bush/Cheney webpage too.
Submitted by Huber_the_Nose (user info) at 2004-10-19 06:49:59 EDT (#)
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christ.....I only wrote this because of moore's stupid "would you send your child to war" question that hes always asking. I should have said some other stuff.
A) Yes I think it is good that Michael Moore raises questions, and gives people another political view other than what they see on Fox news. I just dont agree with how he does it.
B) At no point did I ever say I support Rush Limbaugh, Anne Coulter, Bill O'Reilly, or George Bush. I dislike them as well. Even though the first three may be similar to Moore, except they are conservative, they dont recieve national acclaim for cutting other people down. Moore does, and he does it dishonestly.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2004-10-19 05:12:25 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Butler (user info) at 2004-10-18 19:52:31 (#)
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Any educated person knows that Moore takes some things out of context. But the fact of the matter is that 90% of the stuff he says is true. Besides, he's only stealing a page out of the conservative playbook. They've been putting their "spin" on the truth for years! You cannot sit there and tell me that everything Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly say is accurate. Hell, Al Franken called O'Reilly on his lies about his peabody award and he still denied it after he was showed the proof!
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A few comments. I'm reading this new Ann Coulter book, and it mentions that factless liberals will use certain tools of language to give their arguement more oomph with out backing it up with fact (you know, tastes great less filling. thats how I like my beer, not politics). Butler uses a completely useless phrase to try to make a point, "But the fact of the matter is". Instead of qualifying that sentence with fluff, try using facts to back your point.
Next, why is the word "spin" in quotes? Spin is a normal journalistic device that people cannot help but to use because when writing about the abstract, you have to be subjective. You try to make spin look like an evil thing.
Lastly, O'Reilly later publicly corrected his misstatement that he won a Peabody award. What did he deny? How can you say it was a lie instead of a mistake?
And what the hell is this supposed to mean? "Besides, he's only stealing a page out of the conservative playbook." Does this mean Moore being mostly honest is from the "conseervative playbook"? Or does it mean the "conservative playbook" requires conservatives take facts out of context in order to promote a set of ideals? And I would like to see you back this up with facts. You don't like "spin"? Start backing your weak ass liberal point of view up with facts. The truth.
Submitted by Triad at 2004-10-18 21:13:29 EDT (#)
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Tell me, where did you get a number like 90%? Did you analyze every part of his movies for truth? Or did you just make it up? Let's be rational.
Submitted by Butler (user info) at 2004-10-18 19:52:31 EDT (#)
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Any educated person knows that Moore takes some things out of context. But the fact of the matter is that 90% of the stuff he says is true. Besides, he's only stealing a page out of the conservative playbook. They've been putting their "spin" on the truth for years! You cannot sit there and tell me that everything Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly say is accurate. Hell, Al Franken called O'Reilly on his lies about his peabody award and he still denied it after he was showed the proof!
Submitted by Zoidberg at 2004-10-18 16:12:11 EDT (#)
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Yes Michael Moore is a piece of shit
but then, so is Ann Coulter and Michael Savage, and even Rush Limbaugh
What is so wrong with the left having their own truth distorter? I mean, I know the right is good at it, but do you really want the monopoly on it?
Submitted by Durae (user info) at 2004-10-18 15:08:05 EDT (#)
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Maybe if Americans weren't so fucking stupid, he wouldn't have to talk shit about them/us.
::throws shit into the fan::
Submitted by Durae (user info) at 2004-10-18 15:04:55 EDT (#)
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Oh god, Mark McGrath is such a douchebag. If he got any prissier his baggy jeans would turn into a princess gown.
Is it just me or did Stewart get sexier with age? The gray hair... yum.
Submitted by Ryan at 2004-10-18 15:03:24 EDT (#)
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Being anti-Bush is not anti-american. Like I said and I'll say it again. Moore is anti-american. Bush is the president. He goes after the president. He is anti-american because of what he says and does outside of the united states. Mostly in Europe. He downtalks, apologises for, and denounces not just Bush, but all of America. He IS anti-american. He Is anti-bush. Being one does not denote the other. But for Moore, he IS both.
Submitted by JohnGalt (user info) at 2004-10-18 15:00:40 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Durae (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:58:28 (#)
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No JG, I fantasize about you and Jon Stewart. mmm.
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Oh man. In the words of my best friend's sister..."He's so hot, I'd fuck him in the snow." Of course, she was talking about that McGrath guy from Sugar Ray instead of Jon Stewart, but what does she know.
That interview on Crossfire was better than porn.
Submitted by Durae (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:59:25 EDT (#)
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Submitted by JohnGalt (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:55:54 (#)
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Since when did being anti-Bush make someone anti-American?
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Do you really think you can reason with nationalism induced insanity?
Submitted by Durae (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:58:28 EDT (#)
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No JG, I fantasize about you and Jon Stewart. mmm.
Submitted by JohnGalt (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:55:54 EDT (#)
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Since when did being anti-Bush make someone anti-American?
Submitted by Ryan at 2004-10-18 14:54:24 EDT (#)
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Micheal Moore is a liar and a talented artist at manipulating simple facts. If Bush were good at taking things out of context, Moore would be an olympic gold medalist. Hate Bush all you want folks, but don't get your facts from Moore. Get them from people that actually know what they are talking about. Be liberal all you want, but get facts that are not from this anti-american fool, and he is anti-america, you should listen to his speeches when he's out of the country. Vote Kerry all you want, but don't do so because of these idiot films created by an even bigger idiot. Look up the facts from un-biost sources and form your own opinion. One way or the other. Get out there and vote.
Submitted by JohnGalt (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:51:30 EDT (#)
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Uber John Galt: I didn't say anything even close to that.
Durae: I know, but you should have.
Durae: I fantasize about you and Michael Moore constantly.
Submitted by Durae (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:47:11 EDT (#)
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Team America was pretty damn funny. Maybe I should be ashamed to admit that in public.
Submitted by BongZilla (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:38:38 EDT (#)
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If Anyone saw Team America, the way they portray Michael Moore and the rest of the F.A.G.'s is totally awesome.
Submitted by Durae (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:37:22 EDT (#)
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I think Michael Moore is kind of sexy... and so does John Galt.
Delia164: you know, Michael Moore isn't That unattractive
Uber John Galt: I've thought about banging him.
Uber John Galt: OMG DID I JUST SAY THAT!?!!?!
Delia164: yup.
Submitted by Durae (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:34:17 EDT (#)
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JG - since when have I been at a hippie college. There isn't even a green party here! Don't get me started...
Submitted by espo (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:28:19 EDT (#)
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YEAH HUBER! Way to get on Most Heated.
Submitted by RyuFu (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:22:31 EDT (#)
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He was almost gonna be a priest. That has to explain something. I'm not sure what, exactly...
Submitted by JohnGalt (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:21:53 EDT (#)
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Since when did your hippy college get electricity?
Submitted by Durae (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:21:51 EDT (#)
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You're the reason our country's productivity is so low. Thanks a lot asshat.
Submitted by Durae (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:20:47 EDT (#)
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JG - FOX has some quality programming so STFU U SSTOOPID JERK!!111@@@@@@@!@!!!!!
Submitted by JohnGalt (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:20:30 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Durae (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:19:03 (#)
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JG you're a freakin moron. Are you at home on welfare or something because last time I checked people your age are at work at this time.
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I can work and argue with you at the same time. It doesn't take much effort.
Submitted by Durae (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:19:03 EDT (#)
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JG you're a freakin moron. Are you at home on welfare or something because last time I checked people your age are at work at this time.
Submitted by JohnGalt (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:18:35 EDT (#)
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Submitted by UlfGabe (user info) at 2004-10-17 19:10:31 (#)
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dude, he took stuff out of context precisely because there are so few left? wing sources, he is so far left that his right is left!!!!
look at fox. or most other TV news, its all rightest, so you see just one leftest piece and scream shit.
shut up dumbass and think of it as perspective!
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What the hell are you talking about? So far left that his right is left? That makes no sense.
And why the hell would anyone want to watch Fox for anything that isn't a sports broadcast?
Submitted by Durae (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:18:06 EDT (#)
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This post has no point whatsoever except that you don't like Michael Moore.
STUPID
Submitted by JohnGalt (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:17:06 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Durae (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:16:05 (#)
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Are you serious? You can't even spell the word Michael?
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Screw you. M-I-C-H-E-A-L...see, I can spell it.
Submitted by Durae (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:16:59 EDT (#)
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must make up for it
Submitted by Durae (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:16:46 EDT (#)
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I meant -2 damnit!!!
Submitted by Durae (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:16:05 EDT (#)
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Are you serious? You can't even spell the word Michael?
Submitted by JohnGalt (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:14:51 EDT (#)
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oops, forgot to -2 you.
Submitted by JohnGalt (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:13:58 EDT (#)
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Submitted by polyamorousaj (user info) at 2004-10-18 12:36:14 (#)
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Fuck him and you.
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Fuck you, AJ. Michael Moore rules.
Submitted by Perplexd (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:07:40 EDT (#)
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suck shit.
Submitted by polyamorousaj (user info) at 2004-10-18 12:36:14 EDT (#)
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IDON'TCAREIDON'TCAREIDON'TCAREIDON'TCARE
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Fuck him and you.
Submitted by j0andre1 (user info) at 2004-10-18 12:21:47 EDT (#)
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I don't like him because he's so damn fat
Submitted by Random Joe at 2004-10-18 01:46:15 EDT (#)
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Actually my dad tried to force me to join the army. When I refused he beat the shit out of me...
Thanks for bringing up a sensitive issue for me, jackass!
Submitted by GhostWriter (user info) at 2004-10-17 20:43:54 EDT (#)
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http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com
Submitted by UlfGabe (user info) at 2004-10-17 19:10:31 EDT (#)
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dude, he took stuff out of context precisely because there are so few left? wing sources, he is so far left that his right is left!!!!
look at fox. or most other TV news, its all rightest, so you see just one leftest piece and scream shit.
shut up dumbass and think of it as perspective!
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2004-10-17 10:32:17 EDT (#)
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you are right on the fucking money, brother. Check this out for the anti-moore documentary.
http://www.vote.com/farenhype911/FH911v3-LoRes.mp4-link.mp4
Submitted by cigar (user info) at 2004-10-16 22:21:55 EDT (#)
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Submitted by original_cola (user info) at 2004-10-16 19:41:18 EDT (#)
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link whore
http://www.aolsux.us
Submitted by Random Joe at 2004-10-16 12:03:23 EDT (#)
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http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,135633,00.html
Submitted by Thored (user info) at 2004-10-16 09:55:59 EDT (#)
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Oh no, someone un-american. What shalst we do?
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2004-10-16 09:15:10 EDT (#)
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Tom Morello went to Harvard where he majored in political science.
That might explain his interest in politics.
Submitted by huber the nose <paulh82.at.bluewin.ch> at 2004-10-16 09:11:58 EDT (#)
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Submitted by anderson (user info) at 2004-10-16 03:53:56 (#)
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lame observations... you dont know what is sarcasm... kill yourself
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Right. Asking someone a pointless question, while trying to get your point across = sarcasm.
Taking something someone said out of context to make them look bad = sarcasm.
In the words of my friend espo "I want you to be smart. I really do."
Submitted by huber the nose <paulh82.at.bluewin.ch> at 2004-10-16 09:07:20 EDT (#)
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Submitted by vajokki (user info) at 2004-10-15 21:37:35 (#)
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Your quotation marks have a subscript like in German, so I am assuming you are from another shitty country trying to talk about other nation's issues.
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Yes.......good assumption. I do live in another country. And since nobody ever leaves their country to go to another one, I HAVE to be from germany. Good one. I mean, there's no way I could be from America living in SWITZERLAND. Nope. Thats just crazy. You fool.
Submitted by anderson (user info) at 2004-10-16 03:53:56 EDT (#)
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lame observations... you dont know what is sarcasm... kill yourself
Submitted by CoachMagirk27 (user info) at 2004-10-16 01:38:26 EDT (#)
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I'd do him...
In the pooper.
And then make a documentary about it.
I'd call it:
"Doing Micheal Moore In the Pooper"
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2004-10-16 01:37:08 EDT (#)
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The creators of Southpark said "We hate republicans but we REALLY FUCKING HATE democrats." or something to that.
You'd think they would be pro-liberal like the rest of the People's Republic Of California.
Submitted by BridgetJones (user info) at 2004-10-16 01:36:34 EDT (#)
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Sorry mate, Michael Moore might be a bit shifty, but he makes movies to entertain as well as inform. And I think there's nothing wrong to see bias on the left side. God knows there's enough of the conservative right wing in every other media outlet.
Submitted by Ingsoc (user info) at 2004-10-16 01:28:33 EDT (#)
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And -2 to anyone who thinks the Brief History cartoon segment was done by Trey Parker and Matt Stone. What the fuck is wrong with you people?
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2004-10-15 22:13:46 EDT (#)
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I'm glad Tom Morello was discussing politics. I'll be sure to shove my musical opinion down his throat the next time I see him . Fuck Morello. I hate these so-called musicians who use (abuse) their celebrity status to crusade for some bullshit political cause like supporting socialism.
It is like, "Hey Tom. Are you gonna play some guitar? Oh you want to talk about politics? Get the fuck out of my face. Go watch the Cubs lose or something."
Then people cry if we don't buy their albums and shit? If they use their celebrity status to sway the vote in a way I don't agree with, why the fuck should I support them in how they got famous?
You know, I wouldn't mind if it was merely some political awareness type thing...just "Be active", "vote", etc...but it isn't. These fuckers are typically left-leaning socialist liberals. Fuck these assclowns. I think they should give 90% of their dough to the government before they are allowed to talk. I bet if you investigated these guys you'd find all kinds of shit in their closet.
Fucking Tom Morello. He had made some jackass comments along with many other celebrities. I am waiting for the day when that nutcase conservative standing in the back wacks these fuckers. Then they go to jail, and the celebrity goes to the morgue. A win-win situation for someone like me.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-15 21:46:43 EDT (#)
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Trey and Matt from "Team America" did some pretty good stuff regarding MM
Submitted by vajokki (user info) at 2004-10-15 21:37:35 EDT (#)
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Your quotation marks have a subscript like in German, so I am assuming you are from another shitty country trying to talk about other nation's issues.
Submitted by ohlookasquirrel (user info) at 2004-10-15 21:31:27 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by someone (user info) at 2004-10-15 21:26:27 EDT (#)
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I have mixed feelings about Micheal Moore.
Submitted by Random Joe at 2004-10-15 17:59:58 EDT (#)
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At least he is standing up for what he believes him and making sure that his points are heard, even if he has to exaggerate them a bit to grab your attention.
Michael Moore came and spoke at my university last night, along with Tom Morello and two other guest speakers. I believe that in politics, it is imperative to keep your mind open to everything. Automatically sticking to one side and crusading for it regardless of its actions is ignorant.
One of the guest speakers recently lost his brother in Iraq. As he spoke about what a great person his brother was and how much he loved his country and was willing to fight for a cause, the Republicans stood in the back yelling obsenties. At one point he paused and said that what he was saying transcended politics. But they continued to disrespect him.
Are these the kind of people you want running your country?
Submitted by Random Joe at 2004-10-15 17:40:11 EDT (#)
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if i did a doucmentary on him, i wouldnt have to twist the facts to make him look like an ass
Submitted by d_prime (user info) at 2004-10-15 17:30:13 EDT (#)
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thank you
Submitted by Nobb (user info) at 2004-10-15 17:19:02 EDT (#)
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What about some hating on fox news then shitheads?
Submitted by Rokinroj (user info) at 2004-10-15 16:47:48 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Random Moe at 2004-10-15 11:00:33 (#)
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Actually, living near an Air Force base, I have talked to dozens of people who have served in Iraq, No one wants to be there, well DUH, who wants to be away from home sleeping in the fucking desert? But I will tell you this, almost everyone I have talked to knows what the actual justification for the war is and they stand behind it.
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hmm..."the actual justification"...That was for the Weapons of Mass Destruction right? I don't ever recall being told before this war started that we were going there on a humanitarian mission. We were going there because we were in danger of being attacked by the head of the Axis of Evil. So thats what your local AFB people are supporting right? The WMD's?
What do they think about this new plan that evolved once we got there and found no weapons?
Rokinroj
Submitted by Mitchell at 2004-10-15 16:28:02 EDT (#)
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I went and saw Fatty McMoore speak a few days ago, he was pretty good, but he wasn't nearly as fat as i expected him to be. obviously, i was very disappointed with his pseudorotundness. Ah well, i got a pack of clean underwear from him, which was good enough for me.
Submitted by shitfuck (user info) at 2004-10-15 15:38:11 EDT (#)
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wrong.
Submitted by cyberchild_75 (user info) at 2004-10-15 14:00:56 EDT (#)
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My view will sit as this, I like his movies, not for the educational views in them (NONE), but there was nothing else on, on Comedy central. I would much rather watch Penn and Teller's bullshit.
Submitted by RamJetMax (user info) at 2004-10-15 13:42:45 EDT (#)
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Moore blows goats.
Submitted by Jesus_Loves_TwEE (user info) at 2004-10-15 13:42:27 EDT (#)
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Fart
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2004-10-15 12:54:08 EDT (#)
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Great Angst, obviously you have the opinion of someone who has not served in the military... And it is funny it is the same opinion as Michael Moore says! Wow. What a fucking surprise.
First of all, 18-22 year olds that make up much of the Iraqi troops are IRAQI. Do you mean U.S. troops?
I'll tell you why people enlist in the army that is more common than "a glitzy television ad" (in no particular order).
#1: Struggle in deciding what they want to do in life, stuck in a rut, "lost". The military is an easy out for these guys. It gives people direction.
#2: People who are gung-ho. They like the rigid lifestyle of the military. Physical training, driving a tank, shooting a Mark-19. They love it and enlist fully intending to stay 20 years and make Sergeant Major.
#3: People who had family in the army and they simply "follow in the footsteps" to bring honor to themselves or to honor a family member.
#4: People who need a job to make money (supporting families). As for POOR people taking advantage of this, sure...It happens. But they are in the minority. And you should be happy that these people are willing to enlist, not mad that they are "suckered". Why? Because they are typically poorly educated and would probably be on a dead-end job, on the welfare roles, or a criminal if they didn't make the choice to get out of that lifestyle.
#5: People wanting the college benefits or to pay off student loans.
But question not the job of the military you are trained from day 1 in basic training: You are a soldier and your job is to destroy the enemy. Everyone swears in upon enlistment, as well. There is no denying what your role is.
The recruiters talk up the job, of course. Some may even lie, there is little doubt about this. But ultimately it is up to that person joining. Say, if you wanted to jump out of an airplane and you ask the instructors at a parachute school if it is safe they are going to say "Hell yeah. I've had 200 jumps!" Is it safe? No. People are much safer not going at all because the risk of dying while playing checkers is alot less than parachuting. This shit happens EVERYWHERE.
If you want to strike the military where it hurts talk about "over extention" and "stress on families". Hell, during nam people did a year and came home. In the current military people are going to Afghanistan, then Iraq, then Korea (non-war, but still away from their families) and I think Kosovo still. I'm not sure about the last one, but my unit was supposed to go to Kosovo before the Iraq thing... This happens and this isn't what people signed up for and will hurt the military greatly. You can't expect someone to be happy about spending every other year in a foreign country. I would guess the divorce rate in the military is higher than the already-high national average. I wouldn't be surprised if it was at 75%. If people lose their families, some lose the very reason why they joined the military in the first place. That isn't cool.
Now, as for your comment about Michael Moore expressing his opinion you are right. Even the worst shitbags like the KKK, Farrakhan, and Moore can do so. And if you don't want to hear watch his garbage, you don't have to. You're right. But on the same page, people have the right to bash him back as well.
So, overall...You are correct in your post other than the image of why people join the military. The majority are not "poor as dirt" or suckered like Moore wants people to believe. Just letting you know this, not trying to insult your response.
Submitted by Thereisnogod (user info) at 2004-10-15 12:43:05 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2004-10-15 12:41:31 EDT (#)
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Stabkill. I agree. He is insulting.
In "Bowling for Columbine", instead of focusing on what he considers a problem (guns), he made all kinds of bizarre correlations (capitalism -> mother with 2 jobs -> murderous child) and ridiculed americans as a whole (especially in the little demeaning cartoon showing american history).
Now I understand inflammatory comments and generalization may attract more viewers. But if you're a patriot, I don't think it's a very good idea to broadcast around the world that ALL your countrymen are gun-totting war-mongering scared brain-washed retards.
It's really not adressing the issue at hand, it just pays good. Which is why I question is motive.
Submitted by NotNormal (user info) at 2004-10-15 12:25:17 EDT (#)
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Well said. Anyone who would believe the BS in that movie would probably believe the BS in the NY Times, Boston Globe, and the LA Times as well. And they would probably also be dumb enough to vote to have their taxes raised too.
Submitted by ToastEatingBastard (user info) at 2004-10-15 12:20:42 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by TheMidnight12AM (user info) at 2004-10-15 12:15:07 EDT (#)
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Nice MM rant.
Submitted by great_angst (user info) at 2004-10-15 12:10:18 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Random Moe at 2004-10-15 11:00:33 (#)
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One more thing. People that sign up for the military just to get college money and then bitch with they actually have to participate in military actions are the lowest form of fucking pansy ass self-serving opprotunistic scum on the planet. They signed up for MILITARY service. Its not the fucking boy scouts.
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Do you honestly believe that the 18-22 year-olds that make up much of the Iraqi troops (and much of the casualties) have ANY idea what war was going to be like???
Many of them enlisted after seeing glitzy television ads, persuasive recruiting material pushed by even more persuasive recruiters, and the promise of bettering themselves with education aid, training, and "seeing the world."
Yes, I do believe a lot of enlisted men were naive to the realities of military service during wartime. I can think of a lot better examples of the "lowest form of fucking pansy ass self-serving opprotunistic scum on the planet" .. rather than picking on these poor boys and girls.
But that's MY OPINION.
And getting back to my original point, Michael Moore is expressing HIS OPINION ... his right under our wonderful constitution.
If you don't want to hear his views or see his movie propaganda, DON'T. Or, move to the Middle East.
And again, fucking get over it.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2004-10-15 11:43:12 EDT (#)
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If his twisted way of doing so allows for people to share voices in opposition to the presidents decisions, even in time of war, I can agree with that. We should be allowed to criticize the administration during wartime. But don't forget, this did happen in the 60's so it isn't new.
I am not calling him unpatriotic for doing this. But when he goes around to other nations insulting the very nation he earns his money from, well...that goes into the non-patriotic category. I'm not talking about CRITICIZING. He is insulting. There is a major difference. And this shows that he is more rhetoric than reality.
That's why I don't like Moore.
I don't call people who criticize the president or U.S. policy unpatriotic, but I do understand some people do.
Submitted by OneCheapGeek (user info) at 2004-10-15 11:34:55 EDT (#)
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Oh, and you should feel somewhat complimented, Stabkill. You are one of the few whose political opinion I don't immediately reject on here. You are overall level-headed and you seem to try not to pick sides. Although you do end up bashing me indirectly, I thank you for not making insults personal against me.
Submitted by OneCheapGeek (user info) at 2004-10-15 11:32:53 EDT (#)
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Stabkill, you seem to be missing my larger point. At the core, what he is doing is patriotic. Forget which side he supports or who else supports him. Look at the issue I am presenting.
It is no longer considered a good thing (by most vocal Americans) to openly criticize a president simply because troops are fighting in another part of the world. He is called unpatriotic by those people, not because of his message, but the fact that he does not blindly support Bush. His original action, making the movie, was patriotic because it took a stand against an action he considers wrong. His actions since the movie came out may very well be unpatriotic to most. I know that no one, Moore included, expected that movie to make as much as it did, so to say that his original motivation was money (in my humble opinion) is a result of anger over how things have turned out.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2004-10-15 11:22:14 EDT (#)
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Fuck both of you being Bush & Michael Moore.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2004-10-15 11:20:54 EDT (#)
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OneCheapGeek, he is lining his pockets in a big way in doing so. He goes around bashing America and capitalism while getting rich? Something is wrong with this. He is not doing it for any other reason than to line his pockets. He's an opportunist like tons of other people. How can you, as an American, approve his insults on ALL AMERICAN CITIZENS when he goes to other countries insulting his own country. This IS unpatriotic.
Why does hamas support Michael Moore's video and offer their help to distribute the video in the middle east? Liberals claim Bush is making more enemies by his war on terror than helping, and they make just as many enemies.
Fuck both of you. I'd still rather bomb our enemies than the liberal plan of inaction.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2004-10-15 11:08:51 EDT (#)
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Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2004-10-15 10:55:33 (#)
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And conservative are God's own children, inerrant in their superiority as the stand tall over the world, right Stabkill?
You cannot deny that Moore performs an important function in bringing politics to the fore. How many people would be less informed if his work didn't exist?
And I know you are a libertarian, not a conservative - a hazy distinction, in my opinion.
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Moore lines his pockets and that's pretty much it. He uses politics to do it. And you have idiots out there claiming he is courageous and brave, etc. These are the people he preys on. Rush Limbaugh can do the same thing with conservatives.
If you are willing to "sell your soul to the devil" you can make tons of cash.
Most economists are conservative. Why? Because they know what works. The side of me that is conservative is that exact same view the economists have. I am going to hell, according to all religions.
I don't like alot of the bullshit the republicans do, but that can be fixed over time with the change in people. What the democrats will do is much harder to fix down the road.
Submitted by TheRef (user info) at 2004-10-15 11:07:58 EDT (#)
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http://www.ubersite.com/m/14306
hidden says it best
Submitted by OneCheapGeek (user info) at 2004-10-15 11:01:01 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2004-10-15 10:50:22 (#)
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OneCheapGeek...To name Moore with those people is a disgrace. I'm wondering how many millions of bucks those folks "cashed in" on. I wonder how many of those people went to other nations to insult the people. "The dumbest Brit/Canadian in here is smarter than the smartest American." ???
Anyone who is an American should dislike Michael Moore unless they accept themselves as being stupid. And guess who are the ones who support him? Liberals. Go figure. They can certainly accept themselves for being stupid, I guess.
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I'm not saying that he is as great as any of them, just that to say he is "unpatriotic" is patently false. Instead of shutting up and following along like a good little boy, he is being vocal and registering his displeasure. That is patriotic. I went and saw Bowling for Columbine. However, I am not going to see Farenheit 9/11 because I do tend to agree with the author on many points he raises.
My point is that he is following IN THE TRADITIONS of those who I mentioned. It is unpopular these days to criticize the governemnt in any way. Our allies down't back us 100% and we end up with Freedom Fries. Someone dares to be outspoken about his disdain for our current president and people are supposed to hate him.
I don't agree with most of what he says, and I am fairly liberal (does that make me stupid? I think I usually present myself fairly intelligently). What I admire about him is that he is willing to go out and stir up feelings at a time when it is needed. That is more patriotic than slapping a sticker on your car or flying a flag and not voting. If F9/11 does nothing else, I would like to think that it breaks through some of the voter apathy in this country.
Or maybe wanting everyone to vote is too liberal of me.
Submitted by Random Moe at 2004-10-15 11:00:33 EDT (#)
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Submitted by great_angst (user info) at 2004-10-15 07:58:30 (#)
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..."Have you actually talked to anyone who is serving in Iraq?? The two that I know definitely don't want to be over there ... and definitely don't agree with the justification for this war. They signed up for college money, just like many other military enlistees."
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Actually, living near an Air Force base, I have talked to dozens of people who have served in Iraq, No one wants to be there, well DUH, who wants to be away from home sleeping in the fucking desert? But I will tell you this, almost everyone I have talked to knows what the actual justification for the war is and they stand behind it.
One more thing. People that sign up for the military just to get college money and then bitch with they actually have to participate in military actions are the lowest form of fucking pansy ass self-serving opprotunistic scum on the planet. They signed up for MILITARY service. Its not the fucking boy scouts.
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2004-10-15 10:55:33 EDT (#)
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And conservative are God's own children, inerrant in their superiority as the stand tall over the world, right Stabkill?
You cannot deny that Moore performs an important function in bringing politics to the fore. How many people would be less informed if his work didn't exist?
And I know you are a libertarian, not a conservative - a hazy distinction, in my opinion.
Submitted by Huber_the_Nose (user info) at 2004-10-15 10:55:27 EDT (#)
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"Actually, someone did make such a thing. "Michael Moore hates America" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411646/ I think the title sucks but from I saw in the ads on the web, it still looked somewhat interesting."
That could actually be the something i thought i read about. I will have to check it out
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2004-10-15 10:54:40 EDT (#)
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BLITZKREIG_BOB, don't forget http://www.michaelmoorehatesamerica.com
Submitted by Huber_the_Nose (user info) at 2004-10-15 10:53:31 EDT (#)
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"So where's your post about political ads? They are worse than any movie Moore has ever made."
the thing is, nobody is hailing political ads as some hero of the masses. Political ads dont receive praise they dont deserve.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2004-10-15 10:51:57 EDT (#)
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"I wish someone would make a "documentary" about Micheal Moore, taking a bunch of shit he said and did out of context to make him look like an asshole, because that's all he is."
Actually, someone did make such a thing. "Michael Moore hates America" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0411646/ I think the title sucks but from I saw in the ads on the web, it still looked somewhat interesting.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2004-10-15 10:50:22 EDT (#)
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OneCheapGeek...To name Moore with those people is a disgrace. I'm wondering how many millions of bucks those folks "cashed in" on. I wonder how many of those people went to other nations to insult the people. "The dumbest Brit/Canadian in here is smarter than the smartest American." ???
Anyone who is an American should dislike Michael Moore unless they accept themselves as being stupid. And guess who are the ones who support him? Liberals. Go figure. They can certainly accept themselves for being stupid, I guess.
Submitted by OneCheapGeek (user info) at 2004-10-15 10:48:58 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Huber_the_Nose (user info) at 2004-10-15 10:47:41 (#)
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being a patriot and fighting the good fight is one thing. Taking what people say out of context and making them look bad is another.
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So where's your post about political ads? They are worse than any movie Moore has ever made.
Submitted by Huber_the_Nose (user info) at 2004-10-15 10:47:41 EDT (#)
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being a patriot and fighting the good fight is one thing. Taking what people say out of context and making them look bad is another.
Submitted by OneCheapGeek (user info) at 2004-10-15 10:41:51 EDT (#)
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Submitted by TigerLilly (user info) at 2004-10-15 10:12:17 (#)
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That man is a disgrace to this country.
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Whether or not you agree with what he says, he is one of the most patriotic men in America for having the balls to get up and say it.
It seems too many people have forgotten one thing. Some of the bigggest patriots in our nation's history were rabblerousers and troublemakers like Michael Moore. Thomas Paine, Ben Franklin, Thomas Jefferson, John Adams, Benjamin Harrison, Sam Adams, John Hancock. All of these men were willing to stand up to a government they felt was wrong and that standing up and speaking out became the USofA. Bash his views all you want, but never accuse the man of not being a patriot in the truest sense of the word.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2004-10-15 10:40:46 EDT (#)
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But here's a +2 because I don't think Moore TRULY cares about what he films. I think he just rides the new wave of anti-americanism to make loads of cash outside the US. And it's working.
Overall, +0
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2004-10-15 10:35:38 EDT (#)
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Er...
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2004-10-15 10:35:13 EDT (#)
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They make it look like they get the poorest of the poor and put them in the military and that is horseshit. (From someone who was in the military alot longer than shitbag Moore.)
Submitted by Huber_the_Nose (user info) at 2004-10-15 10:33:49 EDT (#)
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also note.....Im not calling our soldiers fools, I think they are all heroes. However I think that someone who signs up for the army without considering the option they may have to go to war, even over something they dont agree with, is a bit foolish
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2004-10-15 10:30:58 EDT (#)
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great_angst spreaded wisdom all over you stupidity
Submitted by Huber_the_Nose (user info) at 2004-10-15 10:28:42 EDT (#)
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Submitted by InkyFingers at 2004-10-15 09:55:18 (#)
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Few people understand what they are getting themselves into when they sign up for war. And I think you are clearly an ignorant fool if you believe that any 18-22 year old undertands it in the slightest.
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Im the ignorant fool? Or are they the fool for signing up for something that important without considering all possible dangers it entails?
Also: YES I SPELLED THE NAME WRONG.....I GET IT.....IM FUCKING RETARDED
for some reason every time i write the name Michael, it ends up like Micheal....Im retarded I know....we can drop it now
Submitted by Schwarzes_Glas (user info) at 2004-10-15 10:20:14 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by TigerLilly (user info) at 2004-10-15 10:12:17 EDT (#)
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That man is a disgrace to this country.
Submitted by Totally_useless (user info) at 2004-10-15 10:09:20 EDT (#)
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-2 for fucking up my name.
Next time, at least Google the fucking name!
It's A-E-L, not E-A-L.
cock.
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2004-10-15 10:05:48 EDT (#)
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*for*
A-hem.
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2004-10-15 10:05:25 EDT (#)
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Payback is going to be a bitch fo Mr. Moore.
http://www.celsius4111.com/
Submitted by InkyFingers at 2004-10-15 09:55:18 EDT (#)
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Few people understand what they are getting themselves into when they sign up for war. And I think you are clearly an ignorant fool if you believe that any 18-22 year old undertands it in the slightest.
Submitted by Random Joe at 2004-10-15 09:38:36 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Don_Megga (user info) at 2004-10-15 08:52:53 EDT (#)
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I hate Michael Moore so much. If I ever saw him in public I would kick him in the chest until his heart blows out his ass and explodes on some hobo's shoe.
He doesnt make documentaries. Documentaries involve facts. He presents lies based on speculation, and morons believe every word he says.
The fact that people like him, and think he is smart is vomit-inducing.
Michael Moore is lying sac of shit. He is a waste of human life.
I hope he gets cancer and dies a horrible death. The world is a better place without him.
Submitted by xenon (user info) at 2004-10-15 08:42:18 EDT (#)
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Submitted by great_angst (user info) at 2004-10-15 07:58:30 EDT (#)
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We either hate Bush, or we love him.
We either believe in the war, or we are against it.
We either agree with Michael Moore, or we don't.
It's the "balance of nature" in politics. Opposing views.
Both sides with continue to push out tons or propaganda (true and untrue) to further their cause (like they've done forever).
In this case, we have the President, his cabinet, most of Congress, 90% of the media, and the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost saying this war was justified, necessary, and the right thing to do. Then you have Michael Moore saying it wasn't. Without Fahrenheit 911, I don't see much of a balance here.
Millions of us agree with Michael Moore ... that the war not justified, not necessary, and not the right thing to do. Have you actually talked to anyone who is serving in Iraq?? The two that I know definitely don't want to be over there ... and definitely don't agree with the justification for this war. They signed up for college money, just like many other military enlistees. Talk to a few hundred (or thousand) soldiers and National Guardsmen, and they you can make your own assumptions.
And on the subject of guns -- I would love to see a pro-gun documentary. We need some good propaganda that shows the healthy benefits of assault weapons ... how much safer you can be with 12 guns in the house ... and how American is better off with fewer restrictions on manufacturing, purchasing, and registering guns. That would be a good film to watch.
Getting back to Moore, he's expressing his opinions in a "free" society. People with better recourses and creativity and express those views louder and stronger. It's up to each person (and viewer) to evaluate whether it's true, semi-true, or bullshit.
Fucking get over it.
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2004-10-15 07:48:14 EDT (#)
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Michael Moore is clever. Of course he is biased. Can you imagine a neutral interpretation of the last four years? Its just not possible. And Moore's lowbrow style really helps get people interested in current events. Rabble-rousers like him are invaluable.
There is no denying the power of his films.
A little advice: when you attack someone's intelligence in future, spell their name correctly.
Submitted by Supreme_Overlord (user info) at 2004-10-15 07:15:00 EDT (#)
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So, the relativity of someone being a gun nut decreases the further you get from an incident?
I guess that applies to the ADD American attention span.
"Dude, Columbine was so like 5 years ago. It's not like anyone is still dead or anything."
Submitted by AndyD (user info) at 2004-10-15 06:32:24 EDT (#)
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I do agree with you that Michael Moore's work is propaganda, however, it is alternative propaganda which is important to counteract the constant stream of bullshit we hear from politicians at the moment.
In order to form an intelligent opinion you need to hear both sides of a story. Plus, occasionally his shit is extremely amusing and well put together (technically).
Submitted by Phallic_Cymbals (user info) at 2004-10-15 06:25:31 EDT (#)
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What? You mean Moore is biased?
Shenans, next you'll say COulter is too...
Submitted by professorfuckface (user info) at 2004-10-15 06:11:35 EDT (#)
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You should go see Team America: World Police. (Freedom costs a buck o' Five)
Submitted by professorfuckface (user info) at 2004-10-15 06:05:49 EDT (#)
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If you are a Republican, then that is all you need to do, sit around with your thumb in your asshole. Michael Moore is just trying to raise awareness. Since the Bush administration and 9/11, the US has lost its high regard in world opinion. That's fine, says Bush, we are our own country, fuck the rest of the world. In fifty years time people (both US and foreign citizens) will look back at the W Bush administration and see it for the total blunder it is.
Submitted by Huber_the_Nose (user info) at 2004-10-15 06:02:50 EDT (#)
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also.....I think i read somewhere that someone is working on one, or a book or something. I dunno.....maybe it was just wishful reading
Submitted by Huber_the_Nose (user info) at 2004-10-15 05:57:25 EDT (#)
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what have I done?
spent all my free time doing something else. I could sit at home for months/years working feverishly on a movie to discredit someone, but then id just be the next micheal moore. No thanks, I think Ill spend my time going out with my friends, working out, and playing football. Someone else will have the time/resources to do it eventually. And if not, oh well.
Submitted by professorfuckface (user info) at 2004-10-15 05:50:10 EDT (#)
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Huber the Nose: 0
Michael Moore: 1
At least he is FUCKING TRYING. WHAT THE FUCK HAVE YOU DONE?
Submitted by Huber_the_Nose (user info) at 2004-10-15 05:46:28 EDT (#)
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no resources.......no time, no equipment, no funds.
Submitted by professorfuckface (user info) at 2004-10-15 05:43:26 EDT (#)
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If you hate him so much, why don't you stop bitching and make that documentary yourself?
Submitted by Huber_the_Nose (user info) at 2004-10-15 05:30:23 EDT (#)
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yea i dont know how that happens either......i typed it up in Word first.....and the language in my Word is german. Maybe germans have funny quotations?
Submitted by stevie_says (user info) at 2004-10-15 05:26:25 EDT (#)
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>>An example: In „Bowling for Columbine"....
...can some one explain to me how THIS -> „ happens? It really pisses me off.
Oh, I did a story on gun people once and they hate Michael Moore. I really don't give a crap as long as he stays away from me.