Jon Stewart on crossfire (4024 hits)
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Submitted by cigar <farmerboy_9999.at.yahoo.com> (View user info) at 2004-10-16 14:43:26 EDT
Wow, I just wanted to comment that I really gained alot of respect for him from this. I've never really seen him angry before. He was expected to plug his book, and he just broadsided them.
"I'm not your monkey" Best line EVAR.
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Submitted by Phallic_Cymbals (user info) at 2005-05-22 09:52:49 EDT (#)
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Good ole cigar.
Submitted by Fabish (user info) at 2004-10-24 23:14:49 EDT (#)
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http://www.ifilm.com/ifilmdetail/2652831
Submitted by quack (user info) at 2004-10-21 14:30:39 EDT (#)
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i'm not prone to biting bait or petty responses, so i apologize for this one.
i just thought i'd note how funny it is that you replied three times to my minor observation, even while protesting (implied through your sarcasm) that i didn't hurt your feelings. i can't really glean any semblance of cohesive intelligence from your "muddled" attempts at verbosity and what you seem to perceive as figurative language. give the act up. you're quite obviously insecure with an inferiority complex, and trying to make up for it by stubbornly refuting others with seemingly deep, but actually incoherent reviews on a played out website.
a more concrete example to prove my point: your proclamation, "doth hath protested too much," makes absolutely no sense and proves your ineptitude. were you trying for something resembling "the lady doth protest too much, methinks," from hamlet? doth and hath are both third person conjugates. your sentence's modern english equivalent would be "does has protested too much." frankly, you must be in over your head.
i'm being perfectly straightforward. i feel sorry for you. you're no peak, no matter how much you'd like others to think you are. if you can convince me otherwise, honestly, i'll be quite intrigued.
quack quack
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 23:35:31 EDT (#)
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Quack
Under the radar is so much more enjoyable. I'm tickled that you'll overlook this, and me. I see you a hundred times a day. You never change. Looking down all the time makes you miss the peaks.
Unsinkable...HAH
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 23:07:43 EDT (#)
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Submitted by quack (user info) at 2004-10-18 19:34:21 (#)
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not only was the post and later link to ifilm amusing, but just watching slapshot's ridiculous number of comments and time spent on this post was well worth the click. from an unbiased old/lurker point of view, he just came off looking like a thick-headed, bludgeoning, moron with too much time on his hands. cigar looks good next to slapshot, and that's just hilarious.
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Sometimes its just better to leave things unsaid, thus keeping things muddled. I really do find that I'm enjoying the dunginess of it all. Doth hath protested too much. I'm so much dumber than you give me credit for. Galatically ignorant. A classroom of autistic children wouldn't copy off of me during a final exam if their live's depended on it. I'm not a smart man. I couldn't hold your Arrow Pen set with both hands. You're all seeing, knowng and have all the proper answers. You never miss a thing...Oh Wait?
Things unsaid.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 22:50:58 EDT (#)
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Submitted by quack (user info) at 2004-10-18 19:34:21 (#)
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not only was the post and later link to ifilm amusing, but just watching slapshot's ridiculous number of comments and time spent on this post was well worth the click. from an unbiased old/lurker point of view, he just came off looking like a thick-headed, bludgeoning, moron with too much time on his hands. cigar looks good next to slapshot, and that's just hilarious.
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That hurt my feelings Quack. Cigar is a genius. Most Heated...hmmmmmmmm?. One day kiddo, one day...
Submitted by Slovin (user info) at 2004-10-18 22:37:16 EDT (#)
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Submitted by cigar (user info) at 2004-10-18 16:41:10 (#)
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Submitted by Random Joe at 2004-10-18 16:05:00 (#)
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because he makes fun of the president, he's biased?
I suppose Letterman and Leno are as well?
you hyperpatriots and your "dissent = treason" make me sick. go fuck yourself on your inquisition rack you zealot cunt
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Yes, all three are biased, you stupid retarded fuck.
Login, or go fuck yourself.
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Wow, you are a fucking idiot.
Submitted by OGK (user info) at 2004-10-18 20:57:30 EDT (#)
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http://www.ubersite.com/m/48771
Submitted by quack (user info) at 2004-10-18 19:34:21 EDT (#)
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not only was the post and later link to ifilm amusing, but just watching slapshot's ridiculous number of comments and time spent on this post was well worth the click. from an unbiased old/lurker point of view, he just came off looking like a thick-headed, bludgeoning, moron with too much time on his hands. cigar looks good next to slapshot, and that's just hilarious.
Submitted by Tigre (user info) at 2004-10-18 18:55:58 EDT (#)
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A tool made of poorly drop forged steel.
Submitted by Tigre (user info) at 2004-10-18 18:55:41 EDT (#)
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You really are a tool.
Submitted by Tigre (user info) at 2004-10-18 18:55:26 EDT (#)
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WITH MINUS TWOS! MUHAHAH!
Submitted by Tigre (user info) at 2004-10-18 18:55:07 EDT (#)
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Yes Cigar. I'm going to bomb you.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 18:47:22 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Tigre (user info) at 2004-10-18 18:41:11 (#)
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Stfupleeeease. :D
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better yet...GO AWAY PLEASE (_*_)
Submitted by Tigre (user info) at 2004-10-18 18:41:11 EDT (#)
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Stfupleeeease. :D
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2004-10-18 18:21:47 EDT (#)
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This doesn't make any sense. Is Slapshot an alter of cigar's?
Why else would this happen? He must have written at least 60 reviews.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 18:11:03 EDT (#)
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Submitted by cigar (user info) at 2004-10-18 15:19:28 (#)
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Slappy just decided to show he is a big blubbering vagina. -2 had nothing to do with it.
-2 die.
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You're kidding right?...Haven't you read anything I've written? SmokyMTCSW understands what I'm talking about.As do a few other's it would seem.
Cigar...you're the big, wet...nevermind...you'll never understand. Carry On and don't let the wall paneling close in on you. Trailors tend to get small from time to time.
DUMBASSVILLE.... population: YOU
Submitted by wookie (user info) at 2004-10-18 18:00:36 EDT (#)
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Submitted by smokymtcsw (user info) at 2004-10-18 15:26:08 (#)
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This post had little content but I am glad that Jon Stewart's ratings are in the toilet. He is as Tucker pointed out, a man without journalistic standards and he is paying for his partisan pandering.
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"journalistic standards"?! He's a fucking COMEDIAN, you dimwit.
Submitted by cigar (user info) at 2004-10-18 16:41:10 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Random Joe at 2004-10-18 16:05:00 (#)
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because he makes fun of the president, he's biased?
I suppose Letterman and Leno are as well?
you hyperpatriots and your "dissent = treason" make me sick. go fuck yourself on your inquisition rack you zealot cunt
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Yes, all three are biased, you stupid retarded fuck.
Login, or go fuck yourself.
Submitted by Random Joe at 2004-10-18 16:05:00 EDT (#)
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because he makes fun of the president, he's biased?
I suppose Letterman and Leno are as well?
you hyperpatriots and your "dissent = treason" make me sick. go fuck yourself on your inquisition rack you zealot cunt
Submitted by smokymtcsw (user info) at 2004-10-18 15:26:08 EDT (#)
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This post had little content but I am glad that Jon Stewart's ratings are in the toilet. He is as Tucker pointed out, a man without journalistic standards and he is paying for his partisan pandering. The best thing about watching EVERYONE in the media who said they were not liberal desperately working to elect John Kerry is the certainty that they will fail.
Tucker should replace Kilby, he is also very tall and would be hilarious in that format.
Submitted by cigar (user info) at 2004-10-18 15:19:28 EDT (#)
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Slappy just decided to show he is a big blubbering vagina. -2 had nothing to do with it.
-2 die.
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:56:42 EDT (#)
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You know you have three posts on the most heated cigar?
Guess I need to -2 more people.
Submitted by Zandy1123 (user info) at 2004-10-18 14:31:53 EDT (#)
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+2 for Jon Stewart
and...hitwhore!!
http://www.ubersite.com/m/48804
Submitted by QueenAshlee (user info) at 2004-10-18 12:17:58 EDT (#)
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Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2004-10-18 08:37:20 (#)
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what date is the US election?
November 2nd.
Submitted by OGK (user info) at 2004-10-18 11:52:48 EDT (#)
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http://www.ubersite.com/m/48771
+2 this please.
Submitted by OGK (user info) at 2004-10-18 11:52:04 EDT (#)
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If you +2 this post, I'll +2 yours. Good deal.
Submitted by thaumaturge (user info) at 2004-10-18 11:41:10 EDT (#)
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Seriously nice to hear ANYONE challenge mainstream 'news' channels. CNN is a gatekeeper organization and never really faces a challenge to its point-of-view. It's nice to know that a voice with another opinion can be heard, however it is sad to know that it has to come as a surprise to hear it.
Thanks for the link cigar.
Submitted by ornerybastard (user info) at 2004-10-18 10:29:08 EDT (#)
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Submitted by cigar (user info) at 2004-10-16 18:26:56 (#)
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Yes, yes. Go for the safe remark about me. I will continue to attack you stupid fucking stance on me "watching the daily show to get my news". I pour over four or five different ONLINE news sites, I watch at least 12 hours of cable news, and read three different newspapers DAILY. What do you do? Go for the stereotypical remark about me living in a trailer. Nice and safe.
Look at yourself, your defending a goddamn show that toutes "The fake news" in their tagline. You make a broad statement about me?
I watch comedy central around 2 hours a week, I stay away from the "fake news". I enjoy the madtv program they air. And that's about it.
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You expect me to believe that you read that much but you don't know the difference between "your" and "you're?"
Please.
Submitted by Teephphah (user info) at 2004-10-18 09:38:36 EDT (#)
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This was great. I didn't see the show so thanks for bringing this to my attention.
I heartily disagree with Stewart politically, but I think that he's absolutely correct about his assessment of the media. It is all hackery anymore. If it weren't, websites like factcheck.org would not be necessary. The media may make a passing mention of the inaccuracies put out there by the candidates, but they NEVER take the politicians to task for them. They just nod their heads. What we need is an interviewer to say, "Senator Kerry, you say, "X" but President Bush says "Y", both statements can be true in a certain light, but how do you respond to Bush's "Y" statement? No Senator, I don't want you to revert to "X", I want you to address "Y" - you know the facts, you know how the Bush camp can make that claim, how do you respond to those facts? Why do you think that the spin you put on the facts are more realistic than those of the Bush Camp? Might you be wrong about that?" Etc.
Someone below said that Stewart is getting less funny. I think that is what happens when you have an intelligent guy with integrity reading statistics that say some ungodly number of young people rely on him as their ONLY source of news. He understands the responsibility that his popularity engenders. I would look for his show to continue to move toward the more serious, because, frankly, he's the man.
Submitted by Perplexd (user info) at 2004-10-18 09:32:03 EDT (#)
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I taped it !
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2004-10-18 08:37:20 EDT (#)
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what date is the US election?
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 07:01:31 EDT (#)
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I guess this post has had its run...Where oh where is the next stampede going to be?...Kristen...Ciao Bella Donna
Cigar.....you're still a cancer and I hope one day to read about you......in the Obituaries.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 06:57:25 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Kristen (user info) at 2004-10-18 06:45:03 (#)
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No, at the moment I'm making sure that my daughter doesn't fall through the straps of her swing and willing her to fall asleep, because once she does I'll have 6 hours of glorious rest.
I go back to work in January.
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Sorry about the baby stuff....I'm the father of 5 girls so I know what you're going through.
As for sleeping...try Dimetap..(kidding)
FRESH air always knocked my girls out like drugged Zebra's
Look....Honestly , you seem like a good kid. I wish you the best , really...
OH yeah....Do yourself one favor ....I missed this awesome opportunity while my girls were all growing up...
Find a spot like a newly planted tree or a landmark that will be there for the next umpteen years and every year...Take a picture of your baby next to it....Like a time-lapsed picture book...Trust me the effects at a wedding are awesome. Had a buddy of mine do that for his little girl and it brought tears to everyone that watched it at her wedding.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 06:48:22 EDT (#)
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I still regard Cigar as the symptom of the very thing that is wrong with this website. I loved the fact that Bart hard the balls to delete that Koolmang assjack without looking back once. As for Cigar... You want to defend him....Fine...You're ok with the dribble he post's...good on you.. He compares better than I do for you...Bon Appetite Woman....All I can do is sit here and watch the alliances form and pick my spot. Then toss in my 2 cents when I feel I need too.
Submitted by Kristen (user info) at 2004-10-18 06:45:03 EDT (#)
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No, at the moment I'm making sure that my daughter doesn't fall through the straps of her swing and willing her to fall asleep, because once she does I'll have 6 hours of glorious rest.
I go back to work in January.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 06:39:25 EDT (#)
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Fair enough. So at the moment I'm guessing you're NOT teaching?
Submitted by Kristen (user info) at 2004-10-18 06:35:33 EDT (#)
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You'll probably notice that faaaaaarrrrr more often than not, I completely ignore any tits or ass reference. In fact, I can't recall responding to one. I can't mandate what other people say, I can only control how I react to them. I choose to ignore it completely. I don't mind if you don't find me attractive; in fact, not only do I thank my lucky stars that you don't, I also find that very complimentary. You said you didn't mention my looks, so I gave you an example where you did, that's all. I also can't think of any pictures I've posted with my tongue out. I know there was one on Method's poat, though.
I have a BA in Education, a BSc in History, and I would like to get my MEd.
I've also taken enough hours to almost qualify for a minor in kinesiology. Basically, my ideal job would be an American History high school teacher and I would love to coach either track&field or swimming as well.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 06:31:39 EDT (#)
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Ok Princess, I guess we'll do this later. My watch is over. Pasty faced and bloated?...WOW I need to go to Kailua Beach this week I would guess and sun it up some. Thanks for the beauty tip. "Just Beeeeeeeeend and SNAP"
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 06:23:40 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Herpes (user info) at 2004-10-18 06:18:24 (#)
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Slapshot is a nerd.
(Had to get in line... for some of this... cause........... I'm bored.)
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Herpe's, you better shy away from ellipsis. Apparently they're the boon in here and get reactions like a football to a hornets nest.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 06:21:38 EDT (#)
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ubmitted by Herpes (user info) at 2004-10-18 06:18:24 (#)
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Slapshot is a nerd.
(Had to get in line... for some of this... cause........... I'm bored.)
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Thank god for some humor amongst all this crap...even if it is a little dry
And I am a nerd too...good call.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 06:19:57 EDT (#)
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1.Downs smile notwithstanding....Do all of your pictures have your tongue hanging out ALA Michael Jordan 2.You've been reduced to "TITS, ASS and a vagina" Please point me to a post where that hasn't been alluded to or requested to in the replies...Which you seem to be OK with... 3.I'm not blinded by your bombastic beauty...because it isn't there for me...It happens...natural selection. Do you always react like this when someone remarks that you're not that attractive to them personally?
Submitted by Herpes (user info) at 2004-10-18 06:18:24 EDT (#)
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Slapshot is a nerd.
(Had to get in line... for some of this... cause........... I'm bored.)
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 06:13:38 EDT (#)
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come on already, its almost 12:30 am here...anything else Princess?
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 06:08:59 EDT (#)
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Hmmmmmmmmmm good book..Da Vinci Code was good..nah....<thinking>...Better yet, go rent the DVD "WIT", I really liked that one a lot.
and yes...I'd love to see a list of your "Degree's" just for my FYI. I just have to see what develops a woman to the point where she defends a man like Cigar. Do tell woman, do tell. Pins and needles here.
Submitted by Kristen (user info) at 2004-10-18 05:59:06 EDT (#)
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How have I trashed talked about your looks?: 1.Downs smile notwithstanding. 2.You've been reduced to "TITS, ASS and a vagina". 3.I'm not blinded by your bombastic beauty...because it isn't there for me.
Do you read and COMPREHEND at the same time?: Yeah, imagine that.
All I said was that you use them in here to gain some much needed acceptance..(which for a girl who JUST had a baby out of wedlock)is understandable. Baby at what 19, unmarried and i'm probably sure your career achievements are just as lackluster.?: Wow, somehow I've reverted back to 19. What happened to the other four years I've lived? Do you actually want me to list degrees I have?
Who's the halfwit?: Easy. You are.
You compare a wonderous man like Cigar to me, favorably?: Well, you called him wonderous yourself. And I would compare most anyone favorbaly to you.
Give me a break little girl.: Is the femur ok with you?
You're a grammatical soap opera in here.: English translation? Good God, you butchered that sentence.
And thats.......OK!:................................GREAT!
Who would want to be part of a woman who would want a part of a guy like Cigar?: How do you figure I want to be a part of cigar? Preferring someone to you translates to myself wanting to be apart of them? If that's the case, there are some mad orgies going down in the world right now, because I doubt I'm alone in my tastes.
...Hell maybe thats how you got into the baby mess you seem to be in...: By liking a guy off Übersite more than you?
You should read...: Great idea. Any suggestions? I could use a day in bed, reading.
before you act.: .
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 05:54:46 EDT (#)
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I will say that Kristen by FAR has been the strangest tangent to this silly ass post. One comment on her looks and lord, Class 5 hurricane a coming...WATCH OUT.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 05:52:17 EDT (#)
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How am I easily baited...Look at some of the responses I got from this waste of a post....Classic
I can't believe this actually went to #1 on the Most Heated.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 05:50:25 EDT (#)
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Nah Method...Just tossing the pigskin around alittle. People are truly amazing.
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2004-10-18 05:48:31 EDT (#)
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Aaaaaaand Slapshot joins the ever growing list of "easily baited uber goobers".
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 05:44:51 EDT (#)
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5 children of my own and impotent...wow...I can't hide anything.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 05:35:17 EDT (#)
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I'm MVA also....#21 we're almost soulmates. <hug>
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 05:30:28 EDT (#)
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How have I trashed talked about your looks? Do you read and COMPREHEND at the same time?...All I said was that you use them in here to gain some much needed acceptance..(which for a girl who JUST had a baby out of wedlock)is understandable. Baby at what 19, unmarried and i'm probably sure your career achievements are just as lackluster.?...Who's the halfwit? You compare a wonderous man like Cigar to me, favorably? Give me a break little girl. You're a grammatical soap opera in here. And thats.......OK! Who would want to be part of a woman who would want a part of a guy like Cigar?...Hell maybe thats how you got into the baby mess you seem to be in...You should read...before you act.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 05:17:08 EDT (#)
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Puppets are great fun.
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Touche'
Whats your baby's name again?
Submitted by Kristen (user info) at 2004-10-18 05:07:22 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 04:26:33 (#)
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WOW...OK..KRISTEN...<clearing throat>..I guess by that salvo you've gone back and read some of my replies to some of the things that seem to constantly fall out of your mouth. Downs smile notwithstanding.
"Hell Hath No Fury like a woman scorned"
Is it my fault that you're unaware of the delicacy of chewing on a ball of aluminum? I think not. Is it my fault with regards to your joyous journey through Planned Parenthood?...Not one bit. You get bye in here due only to the fact that most guys in here would give a nut to see you naked or "SUCK THE PISS OUT OF"..Thats it....Quite an acheivement I do say. You've been objectified by the Uber Elite....and is some sad way, you're ok with that fact...bravo woman. You've been reduced to "TITS, ASS and a vagina". For you to say that a person such as Cigar has more moral fiber and terpitude than I...simply points out that fact. So get pissy with me all you want because quite frankly...I don't care...I'm not blinded by your bombastic beauty...because it isn't there for me.
Raise the "Cigars cool as hell" banner all you want TongueSmiler..Rape post's are awesome as are most of Cigars post's...but you knew that didn't you?....You're so deep.
Just shows your true mettle and sensibilities.
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Actually, I haven't noticed any replies you've aimed at me. Generally, I wouldn't notice you however this being 4am on a Monday and with you wiping your ass all over the site, there has been little reprieve from you.
So I thought it'd be amusing to mess with you. You seemed like a whiny bitch who would reply. What do you know? Puppets are great fun.
Anyway, I just went and researched your posts since you had so much to say about my looks. You would think the guy who can talk trash about someone's appearance would have to be quite the standard of all that is great and handsome. I would say something more in that area, but I was taught that if I didn't have anything nice to say, I should keep my mouth shut. I guess this would even apply to middle-aged, pasty, hideous, and chunky "lookers" such as yourself.
Maybe how I look has little to do with how I got on the MVA. Maybe it has everything to do with my lack of annoyingly gratuitous use of ellipses. Give it a shot, halfwit.
Submitted by Death_Metal_Dude (user info) at 2004-10-18 05:00:26 EDT (#)
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I see what you're saying Slapshot but I think that Stewart's show being a comedy show is enough to make your analogy a false one. His complaint is that Crossfire, a news/pseudo-debate show on a news network, is missing its opportunity as such to engage in thought-provoking discourse. It has nothing to do with partisanship, or pandering to the left/right. It has to do with reducing political debate to one-liners, false advertising, and all the other 'politics as usual' stuff. These are things that Stewart does not do, but is not obligated to avoid. Pointing out that 'he's partisan and so are the Crossfire guys' is like pointing out that they're all males; yeah, it's true, but it doesn't mean anything.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 04:39:19 EDT (#)
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"To be honest, you seem to fit the Koolmang bill much more aptly than cigar does." Kristen
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All in all, Darling it boils down to paradigms.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 04:32:06 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Death_Metal_Dude (user info) at 2004-10-18 04:25:37 (#)
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Both are guilty.
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You DMD have answered the very heart to this post. Thats all I originally started to reply to this post about. Then someone called me a dumbfuck and never even asked why. Kills me actually.
I guess in the long run...I am a dumbass because I still haven't made my point. Jon Stewart knows exactly what he's sitting on top of...and he's tickled pink by it all.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 04:26:33 EDT (#)
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WOW...OK..KRISTEN...<clearing throat>..I guess by that salvo you've gone back and read some of my replies to some of the things that seem to constantly fall out of your mouth. Downs smile notwithstanding.
"Hell Hath No Fury like a woman scorned"
Is it my fault that you're unaware of the delicacy of chewing on a ball of aluminum? I think not. Is it my fault with regards to your joyous journey through Planned Parenthood?...Not one bit. You get bye in here due only to the fact that most guys in here would give a nut to see you naked or "SUCK THE PISS OUT OF"..Thats it....Quite an acheivement I do say. You've been objectified by the Uber Elite....and is some sad way, you're ok with that fact...bravo woman. You've been reduced to "TITS, ASS and a vagina". For you to say that a person such as Cigar has more moral fiber and terpitude than I...simply points out that fact. So get pissy with me all you want because quite frankly...I don't care...I'm not blinded by your bombastic beauty...because it isn't there for me.
Raise the "Cigars cool as hell" banner all you want TongueSmiler..Rape post's are awesome as are most of Cigars post's...but you knew that didn't you?....You're so deep.
Just shows your true mettle and sensibilities.
Submitted by Death_Metal_Dude (user info) at 2004-10-18 04:25:37 EDT (#)
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Both are guilty.
Now what analogy are you going to make? Stealing is to partisanship?
Submitted by WookieSuave (user info) at 2004-10-18 03:55:36 EDT (#)
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John did amazing things on Crossfire.....
BUT
if you are going to say something like "Best line EVAR.", get your quote right....
STEWART: No. No. I'm not going to be your monkey.
Terrible.
Submitted by Kristen (user info) at 2004-10-18 03:51:35 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 02:35:06 (#)
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"...and Eagle...I think you'd have to learn the trapeze to get Stewarts affections returned...I COULD BE WRONG...
Cigar is just another Koolmang...and if you can't see that, you have my heartfelt apologies."
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To be honest, you seem to fit the Koolmang bill much more aptly than cigar does.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 03:34:40 EDT (#)
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OK...most heated...heh! that was so easy.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 03:23:48 EDT (#)
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Ask yourself this then....If The Daily Show is just a Comedy show...Why is Stewart so ardent about appearing on Crossfire and making his point. Jon Stewart is a fucking genius... it's scary.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 03:03:16 EDT (#)
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DMD...let me simplify this.
1. A guy walks into a bank and robs it of thousands of dollars and gets away.
2. A 10 year old kid steals a pack of gum from a grocery store and gets away.
Who's the guilty one?
Submitted by Death_Metal_Dude (user info) at 2004-10-18 02:52:13 EDT (#)
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Slapshot:
Your condescension aside, you may be right, because I don't know what in the hell you're talking about. I don't know what the butterfly is. I don't know the long chain of events that led to the realization that Jon Stewart is a hypocrite. I don't know how many degrees of separation there are between The Daily Show and the 9/11 report. I don't think anyone does, except for you. The only way you're going to manage a successful argument is by audiatur et altera pars.
The only thing I can extract from your responses is that you think Stewart is partisan to the left. NO SHIT. What's your beef with that? Being partisan is a neutral phrase. It doesn't mean a damn thing here. Correct me if I'm wrong, but the only thing I can think of is that you think Stewart is hypocritical because he criticizes others for being partisan, when he himself is partisan. Well that's all well and good, except for the fact that Stewart isn't criticizing others for being partisan.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 02:48:47 EDT (#)
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Submitted by darko (user info) at 2004-10-18 02:39:54 (#)
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If Kerry gets elected I gaurantee you Jon Stewart will put in just as much effort into making jokes about him as bush. He manages to seperate his views from his comedy, and his political stances on his show is for comedical purposes!
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Whats the wager?
Submitted by darko (user info) at 2004-10-18 02:39:54 EDT (#)
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If Kerry gets elected I gaurantee you Jon Stewart will put in just as much effort into making jokes about him as bush. He manages to seperate his views from his comedy, and his political stances on his show is for comedical purposes!
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 02:35:06 EDT (#)
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Submitted by AlwaysAnEagle (user info) at 2004-10-17 23:28:30 (#)
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Okay, the bickering? Hilarious. It's like watching monkeys throw poo.
The difference is in billing, kids. Crossfire and shows like it stand up and bill themselves as political NEWS shows. The Daily Show bills itself as a comedy show based on the daily news.
I see nothing complicated about this.
Also, I am in love with Jon Stewart. Just wanted to throw that out there.
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They both have huge followings that they (both show producers) need to be correct with.
and Eagle...I think you'd have to learn the trapeze to get Stewarts affections returned...I COULD BE WRONG...
Cigar is just another Koolmang...and if you can't see that, you have my heartfelt apologies.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-18 02:29:08 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Death_Metal_Dude (user info) at 2004-10-18 01:00:39 (#)
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Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 19:27:18 (#)
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DMD....have you sat down and actually READ the 9/11 Commission Report?
No, and how is that related to this discussion?
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Asking the relevance of 9/11 to this discussion is EXACTLY the problem I have with The Daily Show's play on "people...were just a comedy show" rhetoric
Just simply ...the Butterfly Effect. One day you will have Macro-vision. I think it comes with age actually. Domino theory in effect.
I guess I should have followed the lanolin masses and added my "Hell YEAH, John Stewart's the coolest" with the rest of the sheep, instead of pointing out he has no clothes on...my mistake....
wait.FUCK THAT. He is somewhat of a hypocrite but funny as hell.
To answer your question I will say this, after reading the actual 9/11 report and catching most of Jon Stewarts shows on ComedyCENTRAL, I still come away with a taste in my mouth that he's just as guilty of bipartisanship as anyone else in this current election. He just pulls it off with a slick looking fish-eye to the audience. He's hanging towards the left. I could pound on this keyboard for hours on end...do hours of research and looking up stats, but it won't matter because you never saw the butterfly that started all of this.
In the famous words of the Dearly Beloved Gilda Radner..."NEVERMIND"
Submitted by Siren (user info) at 2004-10-18 01:13:33 EDT (#)
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Abso-fucking-lutely.
Submitted by Death_Metal_Dude (user info) at 2004-10-18 01:00:39 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 19:27:18 (#)
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DMD....have you sat down and actually READ the 9/11 Commission Report?
No, and how is that related to this discussion?
Submitted by cigar (user info) at 2004-10-18 00:18:24 EDT (#)
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Submitted by QueenAshlee (user info) at 2004-10-17 23:34:05 (#)
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How am I a sheep? I'm sorry, but it's commonly known fact that Jon Stewart is better than almost everybody. Recognizing that doesn't mean I am a sheep, it means I have common sense.
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Sheep is used so much anymore, it's lost any value. You see assholes like slappy here, uses it when you disagree with him to label you. I wouldn't pay alot of attention to him, you somewhat agreed with me and he lumped you into my side. He's grabbing at straws, and grasping at the air.
Eagle, I agree with you completely. You just can't get this through asshole's thick fucking skull.
xxx
I think it is funny that he considers me worthless, and stupid...yet he is apparently has a little crush on me. He lost you see, he's blinded by hate instead of trying to get at the issue at hand. He continued to spurt two bit cliches, instead of answering any of the issues I pointed out.
Submitted by QueenAshlee (user info) at 2004-10-17 23:34:05 EDT (#)
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How am I a sheep? I'm sorry, but it's commonly known fact that Jon Stewart is better than almost everybody. Recognizing that doesn't mean I am a sheep, it means I have common sense.
Submitted by AlwaysAnEagle (user info) at 2004-10-17 23:28:30 EDT (#)
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Okay, the bickering? Hilarious. It's like watching monkeys throw poo.
The difference is in billing, kids. Crossfire and shows like it stand up and bill themselves as political NEWS shows. The Daily Show bills itself as a comedy show based on the daily news.
I see nothing complicated about this.
Also, I am in love with Jon Stewart. Just wanted to throw that out there.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 22:06:13 EDT (#)
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OR?
Submitted by k4rnage (user info) at 2004-10-17 22:04:49 EDT (#)
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SLAPSHOT SHUT THE FUCK UP.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 22:02:47 EDT (#)
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Still won't change the fact that you're wrong. Matter closed on my end.
Submitted by cigar (user info) at 2004-10-17 21:57:02 EDT (#)
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Simply because you responded with the same tired shit over fifty times. Thanks for the hits, and the heat.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 21:38:52 EDT (#)
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Submitted by cigar (user info) at 2004-10-17 20:39:27 (#)
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Your fucking sad man. Really sad.
Daily Show is a satired news show on Comedy Central.
Crossfire is a weak lame show on CNN (I think, I know it's one of those cable news channels).
If you get your news, or claim people get there news from there (As O'Reilly did) your really missing the point.
I'm done with you, your no fun anymore. You are too stupid to admit your wrong.
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Awwwwwwwwwwwwwwww come on...Whats the matter? Trailor walls starting to close in a little. Room getting smaller? I understand you're absolutely innocent. Innocent of being an unknowing dumbfuck. I should apologize for commenting on things that quite frankly, you're unaware about. Dream-like states are relief to some, as are rose colored glasses to others. Keep your blinders on kiddo, lanolin smells good on you. Congrats on MOST HEATED. <golf clap> You can lead em to water AND make them drink
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 21:26:28 EDT (#)
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<chuckling all the way>...Baa Baa Black sheep have you any wool...I would LOVE to play Texas Hold Em with you dolts.
No checks please.
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2004-10-17 20:57:00 EDT (#)
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Jesus Christ Slapshot, just let this go.
E-mail cigar, or AIM him.
Submitted by QueenAshlee (user info) at 2004-10-17 20:50:14 EDT (#)
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One what? I'm not supposed to tout the awesomeness that is Jon Stewart?
Submitted by hooligan at 2004-10-17 20:45:16 EDT (#)
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I've never seen so many misspellings of "their", "you're", and "your" in one message before.
Submitted by cigar (user info) at 2004-10-17 20:39:27 EDT (#)
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Your fucking sad man. Really sad.
Daily Show is a satired news show on Comedy Central.
Crossfire is a weak lame show on CNN (I think, I know it's one of those cable news channels).
If you get your news, or claim people get there news from there (As O'Reilly did) your really missing the point.
I'm done with you, your no fun anymore. You are too stupid to admit your wrong.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 20:01:05 EDT (#)
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Submitted by QueenAshlee (user info) at 2004-10-17 19:43:02 (#)
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Jon Stewart kicks so much ass.
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<snickers> Theres one now.
Submitted by QueenAshlee (user info) at 2004-10-17 19:43:02 EDT (#)
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Jon Stewart kicks so much ass.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 19:27:18 EDT (#)
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DMD....have you sat down and actually READ the 9/11 Commission Report?
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 19:24:58 EDT (#)
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Let me start by saying that...OH SHIT...GAMES ON...be back in a few
Submitted by Death_Metal_Dude (user info) at 2004-10-17 19:12:10 EDT (#)
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"Stewart was complaining to the gentlemen of Crossfire about things he, himself is guilty of."
Stewart was complaining that the Crossfire guys are hacks that turn an opportunity for Thought Provoking Discourse into a mudslinging slogan-fest. Show me where Stewart does that, and then I'll believe your implication that he is a hypocrite.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 18:36:33 EDT (#)
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Cigar needs something more from life...Like ...MORE COWBELL
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 18:31:23 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Feijuada (user info) at 2004-10-17 18:27:31 (#)
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People, people, I think we need to stop arguing, and instead answer this crucial question:
WHAT IS THE MATRIX?
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Ha Ha...My guess is that it's something subliminally hidden in Jon Stewarts Daily Show script.
Submitted by Feijuada (user info) at 2004-10-17 18:27:31 EDT (#)
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People, people, I think we need to stop arguing, and instead answer this crucial question:
WHAT IS THE MATRIX?
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 18:24:20 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Spooner (user info) at 2004-10-17 18:03:47 (#)
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I think they're trying their damndest to be funny while reminding people "DON'T TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY!"
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On the contrary, I think they're more on the lines now of "DON'T TAKE THIS TOO SERIOUSLY"
Submitted by Feijuada (user info) at 2004-10-17 18:22:11 EDT (#)
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I love me.
Submitted by Spooner (user info) at 2004-10-17 18:03:47 EDT (#)
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I think they're trying their damndest to be funny while reminding people "DON'T TAKE THIS SERIOUSLY!"
Why do you think they stress the phrase "fake news?" Why do you think Jon takes every opportunity to point out it's a comedy show? Thery're doing the best they can to stay funny without having people take news from them. Otherwise, there are a few other options:
1. Ditch comedy, become bi-partisan news show, get cancelled.
2. Make sure that the number of jokes per candidate is entirely even, comedy suffers, lose viewers, get cancelled.
3. Just go about it as they have, remind people whenever possible that this is not real.
Which option would you go for?
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 17:59:01 EDT (#)
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Spooner..I agree with you but my point is....It happens. Why do you think "Do not place in eyes" is on the back of most products? Some people aren't as savy as most people in here or within the educated world for that matter (Fish EyEing Cigar).
If you can honestly sit there and tell me Jon Stewart and the Daily Show staff collectivly hasn't thought "Man I think we're on to something here"...Then stay away from Vegas
Submitted by Spooner (user info) at 2004-10-17 17:49:51 EDT (#)
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Slapshot-
"No one gets their news from The Daily Show, and anyone who does is just as likely to get their news from the guy walking down the street shouting and carrying a "REPENT!" sign."
I never said NO ONE gets their news from The Daily Show, some people will, my point is that these people are dumbasses and Jon shouldn't have to tailor his shows to keep dumbasses from basing their decisions on his show. And if they're stuypid enough to do so, they're just as stupid to base their decision on something else jsut as trivial. Jon Stewart isn't at fault here, it's the dumbasses.
You sound like the kind of person who demands we put "Do not stick in eyes" warnings on Curling irons because some people will be dumb enought to do so.
The fact that we're arguing over The Daily Show's partisanship goes to show just how well they've pulled off the satire.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 17:48:06 EDT (#)
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This thing has been kicked to death and curbed. I'll take from this that there are some people that see the Sistine Chapel as a work of a genius. Other people will be amazed by the funny "echo's" they can make there....Life is funny that way.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 17:43:27 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Quartermain (user info) at 2004-10-17 17:39:26 (#)
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The Crossfire guys got absolutely bitch slapped. I think that the part where Carlson complained about Jon Stewart not being funny and Stewart told him 'I'm not going to be your monkey' was probably the best part of the interview.
I may not agree with him about everything, but Stewart has a point about the media.
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I totally agree...keeping in mind that Jon Stewart and The DAILY SHOW are also part ot THAT media...which was my original point in this fucking mess Cigar calls an idea.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 17:41:26 EDT (#)
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Submitted by cigar (user info) at 2004-10-17 17:28:34 (#)
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46 fucking replies, Forty six. Jesus man, are you that goddamn lonely?
Go away, toddle the fuck off and get back to raping your son
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Cigar, you say stuff like this most of the time...Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm?
Submitted by Quartermain (user info) at 2004-10-17 17:39:26 EDT (#)
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The Crossfire guys got absolutely bitch slapped. I think that the part where Carlson complained about Jon Stewart not being funny and Stewart told him 'I'm not going to be your monkey' was probably the best part of the interview.
I may not agree with him about everything, but Stewart has a point about the media.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 17:33:07 EDT (#)
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No...on the contrary I love pointing out the dumbfucks of the world. You're a DUMBFUCK. Funny thing is, I bet you already knew that.
Submitted by cigar (user info) at 2004-10-17 17:28:34 EDT (#)
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46 fucking replies, Forty six. Jesus man, are you that goddamn lonely?
Go away, toddle the fuck off and get back to raping your son. Your 2 cent pop psychology was funny, if we lived in 1998. It just shows how weak you are now, you haven't even gotten close to my sore spots yet. Just stop, eh?
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 17:24:41 EDT (#)
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Submitted by cigar (user info) at 2004-10-17 17:14:21 (#)
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Jesus you fucking clown, shut the fuck up. Your like that guy at a party that everyone just ignores, and laughs at. I may have just arrived, but it doesn't take long to see your a fucking idiot
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Actually I'm very popular at parties and friendly gatherings. That being said, you strike me as the guy at the same party that will eat anything on a dare. I also bet you have tried backyard wrestling aswell.
Can you honeslty look yourself in the mirror and not mumble "asshole"?
And you threaten from the safe confines of a doublewide. <shaking in my cyber boots>
I wish they would charge more for the internet.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 17:19:07 EDT (#)
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You know...honestly in a nutshell, there are people that go to casino's and leave soon afterward due to the "headaches and nausea" one might get due to certain subliminal messages and rhythms that some places use to keep you there, mindlessly playing slots or other forms of gambling. Then there are the people that can't believe they lost $2000 in three hours as they leave, empty pockets and all.
My head hurts and you're poorer.
Submitted by cigar (user info) at 2004-10-17 17:14:21 EDT (#)
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Jesus you fucking clown, shut the fuck up. Your like that guy at a party that everyone just ignores, and laughs at. I may have just arrived, but it doesn't take long to see your a fucking idiot.
Submitted by Nobb (user info) at 2004-10-17 17:09:37 EDT (#)
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It just shows how fucked up America is when a fake news show host has to tell the real media to get their act together.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 16:46:55 EDT (#)
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No Spooner....you're the real dumbass here......if you can honestly sit there and say to yourself that The Daily Show won't affect anyones thought on the upcoming vote, you are truly an idiot. Maybe you're one on those affected already. Fact is when the Daily Show started it was a purely comedy show and found its niche on a fledgling network called the Comedy Channel. Then something happened. They started to gather underground support and an audience.
Here, read it for yourself:
Jon Stewart: King of All Media
By Stephanie Wargin | Sep 30, 2004 Print
Bill O'Reilly: You know what's really frightening?
Jon Stewart: You've been reading my diary.
O'Reilly: You actually have an influence on this presidential election. That is scary.
Stewart: If that were so, that would be quite frightening.
--- Jon Stewart on The O'Reilly Factor, September 17, 2004
Poor Bill O'Reilly. He and his confused colleagues in the "real" news biz just can't comprehend a world in which a satirical news show on Comedy Central, of all channels, actually matters. Jon Stewart has gone head to head with almost every major news anchor and pundit, and every time they ask, how? To which he chuckles and assures them that he and The Daily Show are not out to shorten their careers, that it's just comedy, for chrissakes, and his viewers know it. For the real news, America will still turn to the old standbys, solid journalists like Dan Rather.
But just a few weeks ago, O'Reilly attempted to crack the Daily Show nut, to find out how the show could wield such a mighty sword. As evidence of Stewart's influence he cited the fact that John Kerry "bypassed" the Factor for The Daily Show, on which he appeared back in August. O'Reilly fretted that the "stoned slackers" who make up the majority of Daily Show viewers would be influenced to vote for Kerry in November, which would in turn possibly sway the election Kerry's way. Stewart, as usual, said his viewers wouldn't be influenced any such way; all they want are some funny jokes.
His assurances, while always delivered in the wittiest of ways, are true, but at the same time not true. True, because most likely his viewers already know which presidential candidate they prefer. Not true, because his impact is less on the viewers and more on the mainstream press, which, in reality, can and does sway many voters with the stories it prints or airs.
The key to The Daily Show's success is its unique use of satire. It's highbrow mixed with lowbrow, but it's not just quick one-liners. Instead, Stewart offers smart, incisive commentary delivered with raised eyebrows and a smirk, as he batters down blatant lies and unravels yard after yard of spin. He has no patience for it, and you shouldn't either. But he, unlike others who unspin the spun, is not angry so much as incredulous. So his viewers laugh at his jokes; they relish his audacity to challenge the claims of authority. But, perhaps, they learn something in the process: the valuable lesson that the truth is out there, and to find it, the best man to trust is the guy who played the delinquent dad in Big Daddy.
Ultimately, what the show delivers is a more realistic and honest version of the news than what's offered by most network and cable news programs. No one—not Bush, not Cheney, and certainly not Robert Novak—is safe from The Daily Show's sledgehammer of truth.
At some point, the media started to get the message that they were dropping the ball. You see signs of it here and there: reporters voicing stronger criticism of Bush's rush to war, or challenging both Democrats and Republicans (and the "non-affiliated" but strongly partisan 527s) to substantiate their claims; writers offering real policy analysis. Now, I'm not claiming that Jon Stewart, Stephen Colbert, et al. have single-handedly (or multi-handedly, as the case may be) launched the catalyst that will change the face of news as we know it. But the stats have surely made the rounds of the networks, both basic and cable, that more young adults get their news from a silly comedy news program than from anywhere else. Yes, it's funny, but it's not just a quick laugh they're after. The Annenberg Public Policy Center study found that Daily Show viewers are more informed about politics and political candidates than their non-DS-watching counterparts. (This may be a chicken-egg scenario, but does that matter?)
John Kerry got the memo. That's why he and countless other big shots have deigned to sit on Jon Stewart's couch, if only for a few minutes of airtime. But the question remains: Where, and how, will The Daily Show appear in the history-to-be-written of 21st-century journalism?
Once upon a time, there was another little Emmy-winning talk show called Dennis Miller Live on HBO. Each half-hour commercial-free show featured Miller talking with a guest, anyone from Dana Carvey to one-time presidential contender Bill Bradley, about topics as varied as race in America, baldness and sobriety—as well as a 1994 chat with Senator John Kerry on religion and politics. But the most brilliant part of the show was Miller's solo rants. For just a few minutes, Miller let forth his distinct brand of hard-core political satire that made you want to read the encyclopedia, the dictionary, the world atlas, and the works of little-known philosophers just to keep up with the humor. It worked because he stuck to the truth, no matter the arcane references with which he delivered it.
Stewart and his staff of "senior" correspondents pick up where the now right-wing Miller left off, only this time the satire is more accessible. (Note the show's just released America (The Book): A Citizen's Guide to Democracy Inaction, a silly fake-history textbook that offers surprising insights such as: "William McKinley was our first African-American president.") It hits, as the survey says, a broader, and younger, target audience, including many who are just now starting to get the hang of the political game. Whereas Miller's influence could only reach so far, and it's doubtful he affected any major changes in the mainstream media, Stewart, befuddling as it is to his more serious-minded brethren (the actual real-live reporters and pundits), is prodding the press to rethink some of its recent indiscretions, and its lack of bravado in dealing with the Bush administration, as well as the dirty politics played by all sides. It's hard to predict the lasting effect The Daily Show will have, but chances are, if the network execs are paying any attention, change is on the way.
Of course, as Miller would say, that's just my opinion. I could be wrong.
Submitted by facenuts (user info) at 2004-10-17 16:16:25 EDT (#)
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Slapshot is a moron.
Submitted by Spooner (user info) at 2004-10-17 15:33:14 EDT (#)
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slapshot- You're a dumbass. That's all there is to it. No one gets their news from The Daily Show, and anyone who does is just as likely to get their news from the guy walking down the street shouting and carrying a "REPENT!" sign. Some people are dumbasses. Jon can't help that. He shouldn't have to sacrifice humor to make sure that his show is "fair and balanced" as if it were a varifiable source for immediate news. The one thing Jon Stewart shouldn't have to say is "Ok I made this George Bush joke, now to make sure I'm being fair I need to find some kind of Kerry material to dig on. Nevermind the fact that he didn't say anything of not yesterday and it will be near impossible to draw humor from his campaign for tonight's show, I need to make sure I'm being as bipartisan as possible."
Just admit it, whether you're voting for Kerry or Bush, Bush's campaign and office provides the most material. So is the show leaning slightly liberal because Jon has a poliutical agenda, or is it just because the republicans are dumbasses who just make it too easy?
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2004-10-17 12:49:00 EDT (#)
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God, this post really blew up didn't it! Just allow me to say that people who get their news from übersite.com are MORONS!
Kidding...
This is the best place to get your news.
Here's the link again: http://bitflood.org:8080/?file=791b2f5d95a...b51f71e73964185
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 09:11:48 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Death_Metal_Dude (user info) at 2004-10-17 08:56:55 (#)
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Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 02:53:39 (#)
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Submitted by Rooster (user info) at 2004-10-17 00:52:44 (#)
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Only 1 because at this point in time I think Jon Stewart is in no place at all to accuse anyone of being partisan.
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THANK YOU...finally, something above a 25 watt bulb.
Why are you arguing a point with which no one is in contention?
Stewart wasn't accusing anyone of being partisan, he was accusing them of being partisan hacks; operative word: "HACKS." In fact, he advocated a debate show in which partisanship was the theme, but instead of sloganeering bullshit it would have thought-provoking discourse.
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Stewart was complaining to the gentlemen of Crossfire about things he, himself is guilty of. Albeit under the thinly veiled guise of his "Comedy" show motif. According to Cigar, "The Daily Show" is nothing more than a comedy vehicle and should be taken that way. My response was alluding to the fact that Stewarts show is much more than that. And noting that fact, he (Stewart) himself has a greater responsibility to make sure the things he broadcast's out to the masses is correct and up to date, without the flavor or partisanship. Thought Provoking Discourse?...with a fish-eye.
Submitted by Death_Metal_Dude (user info) at 2004-10-17 08:56:55 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 02:53:39 (#)
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Submitted by Rooster (user info) at 2004-10-17 00:52:44 (#)
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Only 1 because at this point in time I think Jon Stewart is in no place at all to accuse anyone of being partisan.
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THANK YOU...finally, something above a 25 watt bulb.
Why are you arguing a point with which no one is in contention?
Stewart wasn't accusing anyone of being partisan, he was accusing them of being partisan hacks; operative word: "HACKS." In fact, he advocated a debate show in which partisanship was the theme, but instead of sloganeering bullshit it would have thought-provoking discourse.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 08:43:15 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
"You can't blame a retard for sticking their cock in your mum"
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Wow....I cannot believe I missed this obvious sign... "mum"
I get it now...Crystal.
Cigar is poor white trash...in Europe somewhere. Your importance to anything is dwindling with each new sentence.
Just a guess, but I'd say you'd be hard pressed to find a picture of you and a happy woman...together that wasn't photoshopped.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 08:29:33 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Submitted by jimmiss (user info) at 2004-10-17 08:25:56 (#)
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Shut the fuck up Slapshot. Jon Stewart makes people think, and therefore rocks. Regular media outlets do the opposite, and under false pretences at that.
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Exactly my point you mook. Look before you leap, asshole.
Submitted by jimmiss (user info) at 2004-10-17 08:25:56 EDT (#)
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Shut the fuck up Slapshot. Jon Stewart makes people think, and therefore rocks. Regular media outlets do the opposite, and under false pretences at that.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 07:34:31 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
WHAT?.......CIGAR? Are you trying to tell me something? I can't hear you, try pulling your forskin down past your chin.
In reality, its YOU thats pretty damn scary...
One day you will die...and noone will miss you. No doubt a revealing benchmark on your wonderful life I really pity you, for you know not any better.
Keep up the Fruedian slips...some guy will figure it all out for you and make your life of a closet dweller a reality.
Please don't have any children. The human race really can't take being sent back a few thousand years.
Submitted by jeetkunetony (user info) at 2004-10-17 07:11:10 EDT (#)
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Tucker Carlson is for total legalization of all drugs. He's not that bad.
Submitted by Ex_Lux_Astrum (user info) at 2004-10-17 05:44:46 EDT (#)
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Kudo's to Stewart just for telling that anal-retentive asswipe, Tucker Carlson, that he basically looks like a throbbing, armadillo penis by wearing those STUPID FUCKING BOW TIES.
Submitted by cigar (user info) at 2004-10-17 05:11:16 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Arsenal (user info) at 2004-10-17 03:41:59 (#)
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Cigar as much as I hate you. At least you believe in something. I feel like you are the type of person that may hate Michael Moore but understand that he at least believes in something. Moore isn;t just disgusted with this administration but with this way of life
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why the hate? Just because I believe differently? I hate no one. I don't care for some people's opinons, but hate them. That is really a damn shame.
Thanks for your words though, I do strongly believe in what I think is right.
Slappy, thanks for all the heat and the hits. But your constant posting here frightens me, and I don't frighten easily. I'll just come right out and say it.
YOU CANNOT SUCK MY COCK, Get over it.
Submitted by Bill O'Reilly <Bill.at.foxnews.net> at 2004-10-17 05:10:22 EDT (#)
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PWNED
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 04:24:42 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Cigar......and for that matter Spiral A are about as deep as a Steven Segal movie script.
Submitted by Arsenal (user info) at 2004-10-17 03:41:59 EDT (#)
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Cigar as much as I hate you. At least you believe in something. I feel like you are the type of person that may hate Michael Moore but understand that he at least believes in something. Moore isn;t just disgusted with this administration but with this way of life
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 02:53:39 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Submitted by Rooster (user info) at 2004-10-17 00:52:44 (#)
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Only 1 because at this point in time I think Jon Stewart is in no place at all to accuse anyone of being partisan.
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THANK YOU...finally, something above a 25 watt bulb.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-17 02:52:10 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Spiral_Abraxis (user info) at 2004-10-17 00:51:41 (#)
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Slapshot....is a fag....because he talks.......like.....this.....
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Looky there...Another guy with dry wall under his fingernails. You are so profound and deep. You have hit my problem square on the head. Because of my direct disobedience of grammatical laws of the universe, I must be a faggot. DEEEEEEEEEP stuff. Stephen Hawking level stuff. I can hear the synaptic firing like a 21 gun salute from here...yessssiiirrreee..<jiffy pop sounds>..GENIUS... Hopefully one day you'll convince a very lucky woman that indeed your genes are the ones that will further the human race to a better exsistence. Nature finds a way to become better...and you are IT. Through your loins the next Bach or Beethoven course. You are destined for GREATNESS...
ME to you: "what?...Yeah I'll pay for her slurpee too"
GREATNESS
moron
Submitted by Banga3386 (user info) at 2004-10-17 01:48:34 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
+2 just for letting me know about it so i could watch it.
He called the dude a dick on his own show! How does he walk with such huge testicles?
Submitted by Rooster (user info) at 2004-10-17 00:52:44 EDT (#)
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Only 1 because at this point in time I think Jon Stewart is in no place at all to accuse anyone of being partisan.
Submitted by Spiral_Abraxis (user info) at 2004-10-17 00:51:41 EDT (#)
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Slapshot....is a fag....because he talks.......like.....this.....
Submitted by ChickenTaco (user info) at 2004-10-16 23:05:17 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
the orange bean is revolting! send more troops!
Submitted by Sekeeth (user info) at 2004-10-16 21:28:48 EDT (#)
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I guess I have to download that tonight.
Submitted by cigar (user info) at 2004-10-16 21:17:32 EDT (#)
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Submitted by JohnGalt (user info) at 2004-10-16 21:03:05 (#)
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Does anyone have any idea what he's talking about?
Slapshot, we've had one discussion on Ubersite. One. It was where Loki and I verbally whipped you about something. I don't even remember what it was. Anyway, no I don't have any handicap. I also don't know many people who do. My uncle's neighbor is in a wheelchair. I think he had polio as a kid. My grandpa is in a wheelchair now as well, after his stroke, but I hardly ever see either of them. I just wanted to leave the question open to see if you'd jump all over it, or use it to pretend like you had some amazing level of intuition. I think the results speak for themselves.
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No one has a fucking clue what this assclown blathers endlessly about.
Submitted by JohnGalt (user info) at 2004-10-16 21:11:18 EDT (#)
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Ha. I quit playing trumpet years ago.
AIM me if you want to chat. It's "Uber John Galt"
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 21:07:43 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
OK.....relax Lee Harvey O...put the deer rifle down. I was wrong....now my life will crumble like the walls of Jericho, nice horn
Submitted by JohnGalt (user info) at 2004-10-16 21:03:05 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Does anyone have any idea what he's talking about?
Slapshot, we've had one discussion on Ubersite. One. It was where Loki and I verbally whipped you about something. I don't even remember what it was. Anyway, no I don't have any handicap. I also don't know many people who do. My uncle's neighbor is in a wheelchair. I think he had polio as a kid. My grandpa is in a wheelchair now as well, after his stroke, but I hardly ever see either of them. I just wanted to leave the question open to see if you'd jump all over it, or use it to pretend like you had some amazing level of intuition. I think the results speak for themselves.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 20:58:56 EDT (#)
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I'd love a chance to sit down and talk with you at great length about.......Nothing in general...vapid conversations lead to great ideas....gotta go..
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 20:56:27 EDT (#)
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Who wouldn't want to be Ferris Bueller that day?
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 20:54:23 EDT (#)
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yes..before I go beat people up.........I think you're extremely intelligent. I also feel you're very vanilla in the way of flavors life gives us....which isn't bad....It's safe. Safe is good. Safe is even. Safe doesn't give goosebumps.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 20:51:37 EDT (#)
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Submitted by JohnGalt (user info) at 2004-10-16 20:47:00 (#)
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Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 20:39:09 (#)
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JohnGalt.....this is just a guess but are you in a wheelchair?
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If I am, would you use that to taunt me with your awesome skating abilities? People in wheelchairs can skate too, with the right equipment, and they don't fall down nearly as often.
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Not at all JohnG...It was mearly an observation on my part taken from some of out past conversations. I fancy figuring people out. You strike me as a person who either has a handicap or you deal directly with someone who does. Am I way off here? keeping in mind that handicap's are both Physical AND mental.
Submitted by JohnGalt (user info) at 2004-10-16 20:49:21 EDT (#)
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No thanks...I hope so....He skipped class....and stole a car...and has a hot girlfriend.
In that order. Anymore questions before you go?
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 20:47:17 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
parting shots?..I have to get going?...
Bueller?........Bueller?.........Bueller?
Submitted by JohnGalt (user info) at 2004-10-16 20:47:00 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 20:39:09 (#)
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JohnGalt.....this is just a guess but are you in a wheelchair?
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If I am, would you use that to taunt me with your awesome skating abilities? People in wheelchairs can skate too, with the right equipment, and they don't fall down nearly as often.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 20:39:09 EDT (#)
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JohnGalt.....this is just a guess but are you in a wheelchair?
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 20:37:46 EDT (#)
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Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2004-10-16 20:35:24 (#)
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Just watched Spooners link - the more I see of Jon Stewart the more impressed I am. America is lucky to have him.
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I agree, Jon Stewart is a more centered Dennis Miller.
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2004-10-16 20:35:24 EDT (#)
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Just watched Spooners link - the more I see of Jon Stewart the more impressed I am. America is lucky to have him.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 20:34:33 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
"male-on-male groping session on ice"
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Some might see it that way. Others truly understand the beauty and constant surreal physics calculations it takes to skate with grace, speed and agility..and score....You can't skate or wrap your head around that concept, can you? MEEEEOOOOW = Pity
NOW must take stick...go beat people to pulp...win good...Ice cold
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 20:25:30 EDT (#)
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.................suspension it would seem?
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 20:21:36 EDT (#)
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Submitted by JohnGalt (user info) at 2004-10-16 20:18:44 (#)
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Oh, Slapshot. When you get back from your male-on-male groping session on ice, can you fill us in on exactly what it is the ellipsis you mentioned in the parentheses at the end of your reply have ownership of? I'm just dying to find out what three consecutive periods could have taken into their possession.
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Life with the impact of a feather.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 20:20:08 EDT (#)
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"depth of STUPIDITY"...Stop it with the drywall already..all the pencils are gone...look over here
Submitted by JohnGalt (user info) at 2004-10-16 20:18:44 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Oh, Slapshot. When you get back from your male-on-male groping session on ice, can you fill us in on exactly what it is the ellipsis you mentioned in the parentheses at the end of your reply have ownership of? I'm just dying to find out what three consecutive periods could have taken into their possession.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 20:17:20 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
"He is stupid enough to compare crossfire to the daily show. That depth of stupid makes baby jesus very sad."
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and your understanding of the great power media has is equally deep...and stupid.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 20:11:37 EDT (#)
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no Cigar....I'm actually answering you while I get ready for my hockey game in an hour...stuff needed to be washed and playing on ice in wet shit sucks. Think of it somewhat like you wearing stuff with food stains on it....same experience I would imagine.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2004-10-16 20:11:18 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Yeah, he was pissed. When he called the guy a dick, he wasn't saying it as a joke.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 20:08:41 EDT (#)
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Submitted by JohnGalt (user info) at 2004-10-16 19:53:42 (#)
Ranking: 2
Why do people even bother to argue with Slapshot anymore? He's a moron.
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and you're a pond that doesn't ripple...how beautiful is that?
Submitted by cigar (user info) at 2004-10-16 20:08:29 EDT (#)
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Submitted by JohnGalt (user info) at 2004-10-16 19:53:42 (#)
Ranking: 2
Why do people even bother to argue with Slapshot anymore? He's a moron. It's pointless. I can get more intelligent debate from my cats. And on top of that, my cats don't throw in random strings of periods.
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Yeah, I just figured that out.
He tells me to "get some sun", but he lives at his computer. One post he accuses me of getting my news from comedy central (if you read a small percentage of my posts, you know this is laughable) and the next he tries to insult me for staying inside and reading news too much. All the while he stoops to stereotypical insults. He is a low class, fat fucking clownshoe. He is stupid enough to compare crossfire to the daily show. That depth of stupid makes baby jesus very sad.
Back to the point of this post, I just checked out the clip again. Jesus, I've never even seen him act angry. But he was extremely upset.
And I don't really care if you hate me, I just wanted to get this out there. It seems alot of folks are interested in it.
Submitted by JohnGalt (user info) at 2004-10-16 20:08:26 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Umm....yes...I...o....w.n....two cats......and the only...thing...more..short..and...crooked...than the hierarchy....is my.....penis.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 20:02:58 EDT (#)
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Submitted by JohnGalt (user info) at 2004-10-16 19:53:42 (#)
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Why do people even bother to argue with Slapshot anymore? He's a moron. It's pointless. I can get more intelligent debate from my cats. And on top of that, my cats don't throw in random strings of periods.
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You're a cat owner?...Go Figure.....Well that says it all doesn't it? The hierarchy of the animal kingdom sure is short and crooked in that house. I understand how you could get more intelligent debate from your cats in your household, really. Now feed me, pet me and clean out my nasty assed shitbox. Evolution sure is a bitch sometimes. PRONTO............................(dot)<-------for you...(ellipsis's)
Submitted by Jesus_Loves_TwEE (user info) at 2004-10-16 19:57:55 EDT (#)
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Steward kicked thier asses all over the screen, now THAT was a breath of fresh air.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 19:54:11 EDT (#)
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thank god Cigar has gone back to poking holes in drywall vice answering me...I'm bored with this already...<little lady in POLTERGIEST> "This House is clear"......NEXT SUBJECT?
Submitted by JohnGalt (user info) at 2004-10-16 19:53:42 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Why do people even bother to argue with Slapshot anymore? He's a moron. It's pointless. I can get more intelligent debate from my cats. And on top of that, my cats don't throw in random strings of periods.
Submitted by Arsenal (user info) at 2004-10-16 19:28:34 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
I fucking hate you cigar. But Jon Stewart is a god so +2. I have the clip if anyone wants to see it. I also heard it was on ifilms for free?
Best parts.
Stewart: In many ways, it's funny. And I made a special effort to come on the show today, because I have privately, amongst my friends and also in occasional newspapers and television shows, mentioned this show as being bad.
Begala: We have noticed.
Stewart: And I wanted to -- I felt that that wasn't fair and I should come here and tell you that I don't -- it's not so much that it's bad, as it's hurting America.
Stewart: So I wanted to come here today and say... Stop.
or
Stewart: Now, this is theater. It's obvious. How old are you?
Carlson: Thirty-five.
Stewart: And you wear a bow tie.
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Carlson: I do think you're more fun on your show. Just my opinion.
Stewart: You know what's interesting, though? You're as big a dick on your show as you are on any show.
Submitted by downerSTAIN (user info) at 2004-10-16 19:27:27 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
I'd do him...
...well, in the only place a guy can really do another guy.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 19:19:52 EDT (#)
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ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh CIgar.... the exciting life of a CYBER SOPRANO...Forgeddaboutit
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 19:16:24 EDT (#)
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StabK.....EXACTLY my point...we're so close to being on the same sheet of music, it's scary. Thank you for that breath of fresh air....
On a lighter not..Cigar.seems the "trailor" theme is contagious:
Submitted by Tigre (user info) at 2004-10-16 19:06:10 (#)
Ranking: 2
Hehehe. You wanted to beat me up. But you live in a trailer. *snicker* Trailer. *Snickers harder* I was threatened by a guy in a trailer. xDDD
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2004-10-16 19:11:57 EDT (#)
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I would HOPE people don't get their news from the Daily Show. If they do, they are real jackasses.
Are there people who aren't exposed to news at all and hear what happens merely through the show? It is possible. But the same can be said for Jay Leno & David Letterman in a lighter form of it. And of course, then you can bitch that people are getting their news from the extra lame SNL show. (That show bites serious ass.)
I won't be ignorant and say those people are out there that don't exist, but I do have the opinion of someone who recently said "Not all people should vote. If you don't know who you should vote for, there is no shame in not voting." in fun of Puff Daddy's vote registration drive. Do these people actually know enough to vote for someone to be in charge of the United States? That is an arguement many liberals make at anyone who is uneducated.... But of course, if they vote for their guy they are exempt! ahah....
If people get their news from the daily show, they are morons. I think that states my opinion. In a nutshell: If they do exist, they are idiots.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 19:11:30 EDT (#)
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damn I miss Koolmang...Oh WAIT?
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 19:09:25 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 18:47:19 (#)
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Cigar...you can -2 everything I've every posted...I DONT GIVE a shit...I'm not here for ratings. I'm just here to reinvest my notion that there are fucking mouth breathing "loids" like you in this country and this world and one day.... you may be in a position of controlling what happens to ME. -2 away...little man. Expected nothing less from less
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 19:02:31 EDT (#)
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"I agree with Stewart, though. The media sucks. They play politics to the delight of both republicans and democrats...they have helped further "divide" the nation, and they keep the 3rd party folks under the radar"
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Stab?.....and The Daily Show plays to whom? You don't believe that there is a good percentage of Daily Show followers that are getting their real world information from this show aswell? Come on...don't end up being obtuse. Stewart KNOWS the Daily Show has a huge, religious-like following. He should practice what he preaches. I mean hell....Bill Cosby is a comedy genius...but there is also a strong message in the jokes he tells. Stewart has to realize that.
Submitted by Spooner (user info) at 2004-10-16 18:59:04 EDT (#)
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Go here if you know what's good for you-
http://www.comedycentral.com/tv_shows/thedailyshowwithjonstewart/dailyshow_sept11.jhtml
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 18:54:24 EDT (#)
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"A fat, dumbass from TEXAS wants to call me a kid? I'll like that. You say that right before you rape your kids, right? Sexy."
Fat?.....ok...11% body fat notwithstanding. Like I said...your "doublewide" paneling is showing more and more with each new sentence.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2004-10-16 18:54:06 EDT (#)
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See, Judoka's response was well done.
And cigar pointed out this story (and you know he knows full well that Stewart is in the Kerry camp!) Although, it appears he is only because he sees Kerry as the LESSER OF TWO EVILS as he hinted in that very same interview that Kerry's party was not great either... Just how COULD he do worse is what he says...Which, of course...I personally don't believe him. Because I think Kerry CAN do much worse than a 2nd Bush term or else I'd be voting for Kerry.
I agree with Stewart, though. The media sucks. They play politics to the delight of both republicans and democrats...they have helped further "divide" the nation, and they keep the 3rd party folks under the radar. Do you know the green party candidate (Cobb) and the libertarian candidate (Badnarik) were arrested at the debates on October 1st? Heck no...
http://www.scoop.co.nz/mason/stories/WO0410/S00199.htm
Too bad Stewart is just a "nobody" and nothing will change.
Submitted by cigar (user info) at 2004-10-16 18:51:35 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Judoka (user info) at 2004-10-16 18:43:27 (#)
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First off, cigar I know that we stand on opposite sides of the political fence. But I just wanted to take the opportunity to thank you for posting this link. I had not seen it and I am so glad I did. I also sent it the other political people in my life, and Im sure they will enjoy it as much as I did.
Needless to say I agree 100% with everything Stewart said. The mainstream media are a bunch of cowards. They do a disservice to their profession and the American public with the pablum they spew forth.
Slapshot, how do manage to breathe? To compare the Daily Show, a comedy 'news' program with Crossfire, a polical interview show takes a monumental act of willing ignorance. By the way 'per se' not per say, and you are using incorrectly. You mean for example, or i.e. not intrinsically.
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No worries man, that is exactly why I posted it. Thanks so much for your kind words.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 18:50:45 EDT (#)
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"To compare the Daily Show, a comedy 'news' program with Crossfire, a polical interview show takes a monumental act of willing ignorance" ...You're kidding right?
Submitted by cigar (user info) at 2004-10-16 18:49:44 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 18:36:09 (#)
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Kid....go outside and let some sun shine on your face. Take a dog for a walk. Teach some kids the way to draw football plays in the dirt. Volunteer some time at an old folks home. I wasn't defending either show..I was just saying that any show that has a following like CrossFire AND The Daily show should both be accountable for the "fake news" they put out to the masses...Orsen Wells was the master....do you have your can goods stored?
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A fat, dumbass from TEXAS wants to call me a kid? I'll like that. You say that right before you rape your kids, right? Sexy.
Crossfire is a stupid, idiotic show that is a NEWS CHANNEL. Nothing you see on there can be considered news. It's like Hannity and Colmes on FoxNews, nothing but guests screaming over the top of each other.
The Daily Show is a silly, but VERY goddamn funny show on COMEDY CENTRAL. If you take your news from there (like you seem to) your fucking stupid. But, it isn't FUCKING NEWS you dimwitted bastard. Can you not see that? IT'S NOT FUCKING NEWS, IT'S A FUCKING SPOOF OF THE NEWS. you get that?
IT IS A FUCKING SPOOF OF THE NEWS!!
sinking in?
They shouldn't be accountable for anything, news wise. You can't blame a retard for sticking their cock in your mum. Hey that's how you got here. You can't hold a fork company liable for you being so stupid as to stab yourself in the eye.
Run along and shut the fuck up.
Submitted by stevie_says (user info) at 2004-10-16 18:49:08 EDT (#)
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I like watching Crossfire because it's so stupid. Seeing Stewart on the other day made my week. I think that they should rerun it. I have expected Jon to reach over, grab the rug off Tucker's head and stick it to the table. *BAM*
I remember when Crossfire was an hour long. I would watch it after school, fall asleep before it ended, sleep through Connie Chung, then wake up and turn the t.v. off when Larry King started.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 18:49:02 EDT (#)
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By the way 'per se' not per say...Judoka..I am shamed by my ignorance
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 18:47:19 EDT (#)
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Cigar...you can -2 everything I've every posted...I DONT GIVE a shit...I'm not here for ratings. I'm just here to reinvest my notion that there are fucking mouth breathing "loids" like you in this country and this world and one day.... you may be in a position of controlling what happens to ME. -2 away...little man. Expected nothing less from less
Submitted by Judoka (user info) at 2004-10-16 18:43:27 EDT (#)
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First off, cigar I know that we stand on opposite sides of the political fence. But I just wanted to take the opportunity to thank you for posting this link. I had not seen it and I am so glad I did. I also sent it the other political people in my life, and Im sure they will enjoy it as much as I did.
Needless to say I agree 100% with everything Stewart said. The mainstream media are a bunch of cowards. They do a disservice to their profession and the American public with the pablum they spew forth.
Slapshot, how do manage to breathe? To compare the Daily Show, a comedy 'news' program with Crossfire, a polical interview show takes a monumental act of willing ignorance. By the way 'per se' not per say, and you are using incorrectly. You mean for example, or i.e. not intrinsically.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 18:40:55 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Cigar...just keep thinking the world is flat, or so you were told, ok?...That way you won't fall off of the edge.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 18:36:09 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
"I pour over four or five different ONLINE news sites, I watch at least 12 hours of cable news, and read three different newspapers DAILY"
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Kid....go outside and let some sun shine on your face. Take a dog for a walk. Teach some kids the way to draw football plays in the dirt. Volunteer some time at an old folks home. I wasn't defending either show..I was just saying that any show that has a following like CrossFire AND The Daily show should both be accountable for the "fake news" they put out to the masses...Orsen Wells was the master....do you have your can goods stored?
Submitted by domenad (user info) at 2004-10-16 18:32:21 EDT (#)
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"What you do is not honest. What you do is partisan hackery," Stewart said. "You have a responsibility to the public discourse, and you fail miserably.
You know the saddest thing? It took a guy from a FAKE news show to point this out. And the stunning thing is Carlson and Begala were taken aback. WHY? Don't they KNOW what they do is just partisan schtick? Have they actually fallen to the point where they believe the bullcrap they put out? You've got to be KIDDING me!
Submitted by cigar (user info) at 2004-10-16 18:26:56 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 18:11:27 (#)
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Cigar..Private Pyle stunt double aside....you need to tone it down a bit before you really show people here just how ignorantly "doublewide" you really are. The Daily Show is indeed a "comedy" show. It's a show that derives its COMEDY material from REAL events in the US and the world abroad. The Daily Show is just as guilty of "skirting the head on and hard issues" as any other mainstream news show. I understand its a comedy show per say...but they also have an incredible respondsibility to get things right due to the fact that dumbfucks like you seem to get ALL their news and ideas about OUR future within the US and the world combined, from shows like this. You would be better served if you would pick up a national newspaper once in awhile. You lemming..close your mouth...breathe through your nose sometime...<hands over face in disbelief>...And I wonder who the "Do Not Put Into EYES" instruction on the back of a shampoo bottle is for...go figure
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Yes, yes. Go for the safe remark about me. I will continue to attack you stupid fucking stance on me "watching the daily show to get my news". I pour over four or five different ONLINE news sites, I watch at least 12 hours of cable news, and read three different newspapers DAILY. What do you do? Go for the stereotypical remark about me living in a trailer. Nice and safe.
Look at yourself, your defending a goddamn show that toutes "The fake news" in their tagline. You make a broad statement about me?
I watch comedy central around 2 hours a week, I stay away from the "fake news". I enjoy the madtv program they air. And that's about it.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 18:21:15 EDT (#)
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tomaaaaaato........Taaahhmaahhhhtoeee...same diff kiddo
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 18:18:57 EDT (#)
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and don't get me wrong.....I like Jon Stewart just as much as the next guy. I just think he point that high powered finger of realization AND rationalization at himself and the "Daily SHow" aswell.
Submitted by Spooner (user info) at 2004-10-16 18:18:35 EDT (#)
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Where he said teh view from his apartment used to be of the Twin Towers, but now it's of the Statue of Liberty?
Same show I was tlaking about.
No new wpisode was aired the day of the attacks. I know this. They aired repeats just like all the other late night shows, and teh line you're thinking of came about 2 weeks later.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 18:14:45 EDT (#)
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Spooner..........I'm taking about the "They're Gone" show. I remember the show where he sat there mutton faced and all he could say was ...."I can't believe they're gone"....remember that show?
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 18:14:10 EDT (#)
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Spooner..........I'm taking about the "Their Gone" show. I remember the show where he sat there mutton faced and all he could say was ...."I can't believe their gone"
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 18:11:27 EDT (#)
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Cigar..Private Pyle stunt double aside....you need to tone it down a bit before you really show people here just how ignorantly "doublewide" you really are. The Daily Show is indeed a "comedy" show. It's a show that derives its COMEDY material from REAL events in the US and the world abroad. The Daily Show is just as guilty of "skirting the head on and hard issues" as any other mainstream news show. I understand its a comedy show per say...but they also have an incredible respondsibility to get things right due to the fact that dumbfucks like you seem to get ALL their news and ideas about OUR future within the US and the world combined, from shows like this. You would be better served if you would pick up a national newspaper once in awhile. You lemming..close your mouth...breathe through your nose sometime...<hands over face in disbelief>...And I wonder who the "Do Not Put Into EYES" instruction on the back of a shampoo bottle is for...go figure
Submitted by ikebomber (user info) at 2004-10-16 17:45:49 EDT (#)
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This was amazing.
"What I didn't realize--and maybe this explains alot--is that the news organizations look to Comedy Central for their cues on integrity."
http://transcripts.cnn.com/TRANSCRIPTS/0410/15/cf.01.html
Submitted by Spooner (user info) at 2004-10-16 17:44:07 EDT (#)
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I remember Jon Stewarts show the day the World Trade Centers went down.......Sadly, I just don't think HE does.
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I can't blame him for not remembering it. He never filmed it. The Daily Show films around 6PM on the day it airs and the attacks happened at around 9AM. A rerun was shown that night (a new episode had been shown on Monday, so up ntil then they had planned on running a new episode on Sepetember 11) so I'd venture a guess they never even met that day, and if they did, a short one.
The show aired reruns for about 2 weeks, then they came back on and showed some of their more upbeat field stories in an attempt to make the audience happy again. At the end Jon Stewart gavea really kickass speech, and showed everyone a puppy.
Take this from a Daily Show historian, there was no episode the day of September 11th.
Jon Stewart kicks ass.
Submitted by Pringles4eva (user info) at 2004-10-16 17:24:09 EDT (#)
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just watched the clip.
pwned.
Submitted by Durae (user info) at 2004-10-16 17:06:50 EDT (#)
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ETS - you are definitely not the only one.
Submitted by cigar (user info) at 2004-10-16 16:57:12 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 16:51:06 (#)
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Whatever.........Jon Stewart is just as guilty of pandering to the political ass kissing arena as the guys on crossfire are......he just tempers it with some "Look at me being cutting edge, sarcastic with a high level government official" jokes...I remember Jon Stewarts show the day the World Trade Centers went down.......Sadly, I just don't think HE does.
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He runs a FUCKING COMEDY SHOW. They run a NEWS SHOW, you stupid fuck. Is that beyond your level of understanding. Goddamnit, let that sink the fuck in.
Deep breathe...okay.
He was talking to one of the CNN guys that is a part of kerry's team.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2004-10-16 16:54:48 EDT (#)
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Am I the only one why watches The Daily Show thinking, "This is the REAL news"?
Submitted by Wiggles (user info) at 2004-10-16 16:54:16 EDT (#)
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I love the Daily Show, but to be honest, I think Jon Stewart is getting less funny on it.
It's when he's on other shows that he's most funny and engaging.
The new book is great, too.
Submitted by Slapshot99 (user info) at 2004-10-16 16:51:06 EDT (#)
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Whatever.........Jon Stewart is just as guilty of pandering to the political ass kissing arena as the guys on crossfire are......he just tempers it with some "Look at me being cutting edge, sarcastic with a high level government official" jokes...I remember Jon Stewarts show the day the World Trade Centers went down.......Sadly, I just don't think HE does.
Submitted by Death_Metal_Dude (user info) at 2004-10-16 16:48:34 EDT (#)
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AWESOME
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2004-10-16 16:39:16 EDT (#)
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"i like that they kept cutting him off and wouldnt let him finish his main thought."
Yeah that's really brilliant! Cutting off people like when you're 10. Me like, me like!
Christ, that DJMatt guy is fuckin' retarded.
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2004-10-16 16:37:52 EDT (#)
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He really kicked their asses. But I don't know who they were. Did the show deserve that criticism?
Watched internet clips of Stewart before, seems like a great guy.
Submitted by DJMattB241 (user info) at 2004-10-16 16:36:02 EDT (#)
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owned?
i like that they kept cutting him off and wouldnt let him finish his main thought.
Submitted by Durae (user info) at 2004-10-16 16:30:50 EDT (#)
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Oh my god, I said to myself if no one else on uber was going to tribute to that segment somehow I would have to do it... poorly, so thanks.
While watching that, my jaw dropped every 30 seconds. It was amazing. He didn't back down from anything.
It's really interesting to me that a professional comedian would be so outraged that he felt compelled to speak out without hiding under the normal guise of comedy. I loved Jon Stewart to begin with, he's the sexiest person on television, but after the way he dominated that debate he has a whole new level of respect from me.
Submitted by kai070169 (user info) at 2004-10-16 16:25:28 EDT (#)
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ATTENTION USA: Canada is willing to trade Cigar for those two girls from Amish in the City. E mail me for details...
Submitted by cigar (user info) at 2004-10-16 16:12:51 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2004-10-16 15:55:55 (#)
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I don't agree with Jon Stewart's choice of president, but his angle and where he is coming from is 100% accurate.
I think he really wants change...
He is dead on about having a COMEDY SHOW... And a mention of that kick ass show crank yankers!
Both those guys suck on Crossfire.
Jon Stewart cleaned their clock.
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Exactly.
The idea behind this post was to let people know it happened, I know this isn't a news site or a a blog. But, goddamnit, it isn't getting much coverage.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2004-10-16 15:55:55 EDT (#)
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I don't agree with Jon Stewart's choice of president, but his angle and where he is coming from is 100% accurate.
I think he really wants change...
He is dead on about having a COMEDY SHOW... And a mention of that kick ass show crank yankers!
Both those guys suck on Crossfire.
Jon Stewart cleaned their clock.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2004-10-16 15:35:42 EDT (#)
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http://bitflood.org:8080/?file=791b2f5d95a...b51f71e73964185
here is another link
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2004-10-16 15:34:15 EDT (#)
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Just watched it...
It was PURE GOLD! Thanks for the heads up! He actually called the guy a dick! And the part where the said "you're 35 years old and you wear a bow tie" was awesome.
Submitted by MetalMilitiaMan (user info) at 2004-10-16 15:34:00 EDT (#)
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http://www.ifilm.com/filmdetail?ifilmid=2652831&htv=12
You can watch it there.
Submitted by cigar (user info) at 2004-10-16 15:24:22 EDT (#)
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Jon Stewart Bitchslaps CNN's 'Crossfire' Show
10.15.2004 6:43 PM EDT
In what could well be the strangest and most refreshing media moment of the election season, "The Daily Show" host Jon Stewart turned up on a live broadcast of CNN's "Crossfire" Friday and accused the mainstream media — and his hosts in particular — of being soft and failing to do their duty as journalists to keep politicians and the political process honest.
Reaching well outside his usual youthful "Daily Show" demo, Stewart took to "Crossfire" to promote his new book, "America (The Book): A Citizen's Guide to Democracy Inaction" (see "Jon Stewart Writes A History Textbook That — At Last! — Features Nudity"), but instead of pushing the tome, Stewart used his time to verbally slap the network and the media for being "dishonest" and "doing a disservice" to the American public. After co-host Tucker Carlson suggested that Stewart went easy on Senator John Kerry when the candidate was a guest on "The Daily Show," Stewart unloaded on "Crossfire," calling hosts Carlson and Paul Begala "partisan hacks" and chiding them for not raising the level of discourse on their show beyond sloganeering.
"What you do is not honest. What you do is partisan hackery," Stewart said. "You have a responsibility to the public discourse, and you fail miserably.
"I watch your show every day, and it kills me. It's so painful to watch," Stewart added as it became apparent that the comedian was not joking. He went on to hammer the network, and the media in general, for its coverage of the presidential debates. Stewart said it was a disservice to viewers to immediately seek reaction from campaign insiders and presidential cheerleaders following the debates, noting that the debates' famed "Spin Alley" should be called "Deception Lane."
"The thing is, we need your help," Stewart said. "Right now, you're helping the politicians and the corporations and we're left out there to mow our lawns."
While the audience seemed to be behind Stewart, Begala and Carlson were both taken aback. The hosts tried to feed Stewart set-up lines hoping to draw him into a more light-hearted shtick, but Stewart stayed on point and hammered away at the show, the hosts, and the state of political journalism. Carlson grew increasingly frustrated, at first noting that the segment wasn't "funny," and later verbally sparring with the comedian.
http://www.mtv.com/chooseorlose/headlines/news.jhtml?id=1492305
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2004-10-16 15:02:26 EDT (#)
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A link, or a transcript?
Submitted by scoobidydoo2003 (user info) at 2004-10-16 14:47:50 EDT (#)
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And now I know what it's like to read a post by a retard.