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Submitted by <smurf_master.at.hotmail.com> (View user info) at 2004-11-09 20:04:11 EST
This post is for people who don't understand Christians.
For the rich elite conservative Christian white male stereotypes that are portrayed in your ideology, here is a bubble that is going to be burst. That's me. But you see there is one problem with that. Well ok there are lots of problems with that. You have to understand that I am indeed a white male conservative Christian; I'm very poor and would never make much of an elitist. Hell, I work a dead end job just so I can feed my parents. But yet I'm still a republican. Why you ask? It's simple really.... Faith. It's not my relationship with my girlfriend or my best buds that get me through rough times, at the end of the day it's all about having faith that when the shit hits the fan I know what will happen to me when I die.
Now you may say that you can really never know if there truly is a God up there, but that's what faith is all about; not knowing but still believing. And that's why the Republican Party appeals to me and so many others. We all believe in one thing and that unites us. That's why there were so many of us who voted for "moral" reasons rather than economic and other issues.
Now you may say that we are all blind to the truth, but I see were you are coming from. I've been there myself. Trust me when I say being a Christian in this day and age is no walk in the park. There have been many times when I have abandoned my faith and fell into the ways of the world, but all I found was misery in addictions. Does Christianity have all the answers? No, at least not right away (maybe I'm not trying hard enough). But aren't Christians oppressing people's rights. Yes. But isn't that just plain wrong? No, at least not to us. To us we are not oppressing a man's right to marry another man, because he never had that right, and this is why we believe it:
Leviticus 18:22-
-(NIV) Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman; that is detestable.
-(NASB) You shall not lie with a male as one lies with a female; it is an
abomination.
-(MSG) Don't have sex with a man as one does with a woman. That is abhorrent.
-(NLT) Do not practice homosexuality; it is a detestable sin.
-(KJV) Thou shalt not lie with mankind, as with womankind: it is abomination.
-(NLV) Do not lie with a man as one lies with a woman. It is a sinful thing.
-(CEV) It is disgusting for a man to have sex with another man.
-(NIRV) Do not have sex with a man as you would have sex with a woman. I hate
that.
Do you understand where I'm coming from now? I didn't make this stuff up, it's in the bible. Look it up for yourself if you don't believe me. But now you say we hate gays, not true either. And here's why
Matthew 5:44
But I tell you: Love your enemies[ 5:44 Some late manuscripts enemies, bless those who curse you, do good to those who hate you] and pray for those who persecute you,
Luke 6:27
"But I tell you who hear me: Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you,
So please next you decide to stereotype Christians as white, rich, southern, uneducated, oppressors of freedom, why don't you do to a church service on a Sunday morning and see for yourself. Maybe even talk with a pastor. No I'm not asking you to save your soul, but just trying to let you understand where I'm coming from.
And if you want to know what we believe about abortion
Does God care for the unborn?............................................Exodus 21:22-25
What does God think about killing children?..............................2 Chronicles 33:6
Does God know the unborn by name?........................................Isaiah 49:1
What does God know about us before we're born?...........................Jeremiah 1:5
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Submitted by wazzawazzayo (user info) at 2004-11-11 16:22:19 EST (#)
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Leviticus, Chapter 11
1. The LORD said to Moses and Aaron,
2. "Speak to the Israelites and tell them: Of all land animals these are the ones you may eat:
3. any animal that has hoofs you may eat, provided it is cloven-footed and chews the cud.
4. But you shall not eat any of the following that only chew the cud or only have hoofs: the camel, which indeed chews the cud, but does not have hoofs and is therefore unclean for you;
5. the hare, which indeed chews the cud, but does not have hoofs and is therefore unclean for you; and the pig,
6. which does indeed have hoofs and is cloven-footed, but does not chew the cud and is therefore unclean for you.
7. Their flesh you shall not eat, and their dead bodies you shall not touch; they are unclean for you.
So when are you guys going to crusade against bacon?
Am I going to hell because I had a BLT for lunch?
ARE YOU UNCLEAN TOO? ARE WE ALL DOOMED?
That's why I can't stand you fundementalists. You twist the Bible only to suit your needs.
Submitted by Zoidberg (user info) at 2004-11-11 12:11:32 EST (#)
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>>How does praying in a public educational institution (not a branch of government) go against the prohibition of a nationally established religion. It doesn't. It just offends people who don't want to see people doing things that make them feel bad about themselves.<<
Rad I'm going to give you the benefit of the doubt on missing this because it was probably in a book you burned
Point 1. You are partially correct, only partially though. The inclusion of the First Amendment was specifically added to PROTECT state sponsored religion. Most of the New England states were afraid of the Federal government disestablishing their state run religions.
Point 2. However the courts realized that the 1st amendment only applying to the Federal government was a BAD thing, and its good a good thing too, or the State governments would still be able to censor you, as Thomas Jefferson long maintained they should be allowed to do. So in the early part of the last century, through a number of court cases, the 1st amendment and others were applied to the states (Gitlow v. New York among others)
Unless you're willing to accept Brahmins reading from The Upanishads in your childs school, then STFU about your rights as a Christian. Your rights as a Christian shouldn't be any more special then someone's rights as a Hindu or a Muslim.
I do think a moment of silence is acceptable though. Opportunities for faith shouldn't be eliminated from our lives. Just limited where they don't interfere with others
Submitted by Donitsu2002 (user info) at 2004-11-11 09:36:16 EST (#)
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Submitted by Nator (user info) at 2004-11-11 09:17:07 (#)
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Whatever happened to 'God hates fags'?
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God didn't even say that, Idiot.
Submitted by Nator (user info) at 2004-11-11 09:17:07 EST (#)
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Whatever happened to 'God hates fags'?
Submitted by GK (user info) at 2004-11-11 03:39:07 EST (#)
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Submitted by icarus9mm (user info) at 2004-11-11 03:26:31 EST (#)
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this is funny.
you should read the rest of the bible... it's funny too.
especially Leviticus.
ya' fuckin' ass-hat
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2004-11-11 03:20:00 EST (#)
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Submitted by L-Gizzle (user info) at 2004-11-10 17:40:03 (#)
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Seperation. Of. Church. And. State.
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There is no provision in the constitution for the seperation of church and state. The first amendment clearly stated that government will not establish a national religion. It does not say there is no place for religion in government. I couldn't pray in school because there is a false legal perception of a seperation. How does praying in a public educational institution (not a branch of government) go against the prohibition of a nationally established religion. It doesn't. It just offends people who don't want to see people doing things that make them feel bad about themselves.
Submitted by UlfGabe (user info) at 2004-11-10 22:33:28 EST (#)
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I am going to have to write a HUGE FUCKING response to this, meaning i have to read the bible.
This is going to be hard, be prepared to wait somewhat christians for my answers.
(its really because i have a calculus test tommorow.
This should make for an interesting debate.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2004-11-10 17:58:05 EST (#)
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God sucks cock. He sucked mine yesterday anyway. He was like, "hey dude, what if I sucked your cock?" So I said "well ok god, you can go ahead and suck my cock". As he was munching on my balls, I heard him whisper "hmmmm, that's some good cock you have there Son" (capitalize S because I'm Jesus) Then I came into his godly stupid face and screamed "Take that cock juice you fucking piece of God-shit!".
True story!
p.s. you're an idiot.
Submitted by L-Gizzle (user info) at 2004-11-10 17:40:03 EST (#)
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Seperation. Of. Church. And. State.
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Submitted by Teephphah (user info) at 2004-11-09 22:10:51 (#)
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You knew you'd get flamed for this, right?
Keep on, keepin' on. Don't let the haters get you down.
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Submitted by Zoidberg (user info) at 2004-11-10 14:05:28 EST (#)
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blah blah blah 10 commandments argument...
Okay then. So you'd be just fine and dandy with the judge of say, the California Supreme Court making a display dedicated to the Satanic Bible?
and as to your "We're not trying to impose our morals."
Really? Could have fooled me. Then please clarify why you care so much about gay marriage. Nothing say *your* church has to recognize it. Hell I could care less if they did.
Again, I can't spell this out any simpler. All these laws you're trying to pass because "the Bible says so"...here's a shocker, that's imposing your morals on other people. Please explain to me how it isnt?
And don't give me this "Would you rather have a society that didnt believe "thou shalt not kill" nonsense." Even if other religions didnt have laws against killing, our laws against murder have nothing to do with the bible. It's a matter of societal good. It's good for society not to have murderers running lose.
Submitted by Jungle_Jimanee (user info) at 2004-11-10 13:12:04 EST (#)
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Sorry for my insult earlier, having read all the replies I see you are just missguided.
To explain myself; I believe in God but can't prove a thing. I have rationalised this byt the following:
Does God exist; I dont know
Would you like there to be a God; Yes it's a great idea
Is God a nice thing or an evil thing; well I don't have truck with evil or excessive selfishness so he must be really good otherwise I would have nothing to do with him.
My God would never have a problem with an expression of love that did not harm anyone and anyone who says otherwise is a liar.
Be careful of placing yourself in groups, because it makes you responsible for their actions it means you agree with them. The reason why people are intollerant of Christians is a big issue, but even you cannot deny that "they" have tried to halt the evolution of knowledge on this planet (one example: Earth flat, somebody got burnt alive for that and you support it). They were wrong then they are wrong now!
By all means worship God but don't take anybody elses word for what he says, it should be between him and you.
Submitted by Fr057m0urn3 (user info) at 2004-11-10 09:25:35 EST (#)
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Ok, I don't have a bone to pick with the Ten Commandments being the basis of law in your country, whatever flips your bible. But regarding religion, morality and law in general.
One issue here is whether morality has to come from religion. An atheist can still be a good person. And besides, religions differ, which means that what is immoral to a religion may not be to others. For example, Christianity and Islam are against homosexuality, but Buddhism doesn't say anything about it. It just preaches something along the lines of "Spread loving kindness to all beings", I assume this includes gays. With religions being so conflicting, is it possible to actually have a set of universal morals, as opposed to "Christian morals" or "Taoist morals"? How will multi-religious countries make laws then?
Case in point: Napoleon was not a particularly religious person (He brought the Pope to France and imprisoned him). Neither was he the poster boy of morality (Dude ran a secret police and a spy network to watch the secret police). But the Code Napoleon still remains the basis of French law today. The reason the Code outlived its creator by so long is not because it's religious, not because it's big on morality, but because it makes sense.
What if Thou Shalt not Kill is changed to Thou Shalt Kill Happily. What happens then? I don't think people will go around killing just because it's moral or religiously dictated to do so. Other than morality or/and religion, one factor helps in making laws: Whether an action has a victim.
Many countries which don't believe in the Ten Commandments still have murder, theft and juvenile problems as crimes because someone gets hurt: The dead person, the person who got his shit stolen and the parents. But who gets hurt by gay marriage? I'm sure even people against it won't be kept awake by the thought that a guy has a dick in another man's ass. The only people who get hurt are the gays who don't lube up and wear condoms.
And I don't get the problem behind stem cell research. It may be argued that gay marriage only benefits the gays, but stem cell research benefits everyone, including the white christians. Is it because there doesn't seem to be much benefit now? Imagine if someone said the same thing to Columbus, "Your journey is dangerous and pointless." and cut his funding. Isn't it the same thing?
Submitted by Jimmyb (user info) at 2004-11-10 09:02:42 EST (#)
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not my words below, it been circling the net for a few years , but it brings up interesting fodder for these sort of justifications against homosexuality:
Thank you for doing so much to educate people regarding God's Law. I have learned a great deal from your show, and I try to share that knowledge with as many people as I can. When someone tries to defend the homosexual lifestyle, for example, I simply remind him that Leviticus 18:22 clearly states it to be an abomination. End of debate.
I do need some advice from you, however, regarding some of the specific laws and how to best follow them.
a) When I burn a bull on the altar as a sacrifice, I know it creates a pleasing odor for the Lord (Lev 1:9). The problem is my neighbors. They claim the odor is not pleasing to them. Should I smite them?
b) I would like to sell my daughter into slavery, as sanctioned in Exodus 21:7. In this day and age, what do you think would be a fair price for her?
c) I know that I am allowed no contact with a woman while she is in her period of menstrual uncleanliness (Lev 15:19-24). The problem is, how do I tell? I have tried asking, but most women take offense.
d) Lev. 25:44 states that I may indeed possess slaves, both male and female, provided they are purchased from neighboring nations. A friend of mine claims that this applies to Mexicans, but not Canadians. Can you clarify? Why can't I own Canadians?
e) I have a neighbor who insists on working on the Sabbath. Exodus 35:2 clearly states he should be put to death. Am I morally obligated to kill him myself?
f) A friend of mine feels that even though eating shellfish is an Abomination (Lev 11:10), it is a lesser abomination than homosexuality. I don't agree. Can you settle this?
g) Lev 21:20 states that I may not approach the altar of God if I have a defect in my sight. I have to admit that I wear reading glasses. Does my vision have to be 20/20, or is there some wiggle room here?
h) Most of my male friends get their hair trimmed, including the hair around their temples, even though this is expressly forbidden by Lev 19:27. How should they die?
i) I know from Lev 11:6-8 that touching the skin of a dead pig makes me unclean, but may I still play football if I wear gloves?
j) My uncle has a farm. He violates Lev 19:19 by planting two different crops in the same field, as does his wife by wearing garments made of two different kinds of thread (cotton/polyester blend). He also tends to curse and blaspheme a lot. Is it really necessary that we go to all the trouble of getting the whole town together to stone them? (Lev 24:10-16) Couldn't we just burn them to death at a private family affair like we do with people who sleep with their in-laws? (Lev. 20:14)
I know you have studied these things extensively, so I am confident you can help.
Thank you again for reminding us that God's word is eternal and unchanging.
Submitted by cuckingfunt (user info) at 2004-11-10 08:47:31 EST (#)
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Doesn't it say in the Bible that Jesus rode a lot of ass?
Submitted by xenon (user info) at 2004-11-10 08:42:03 EST (#)
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Good job, Smurf. You've got huge brass ones to post this on this site. Ignore the attacks. Most people in today's don't understand your perspective and never will. That's just how it is, unfortunately. These are the same people that SCREAM for tolerance for everything in the world except Christians.
Best,
X
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2004-11-10 08:39:30 EST (#)
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Submitted by The_taste_of_Monkeys (user info) at 2004-11-10 08:28:49 (#)
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I feel sorry for you that you have to listen to the words of dead men to get any kind of pleasure from life.
I've always felt myslef to be a moral person but those morals comes from not wanting to cause pain to others that I would not want to feel myself, not because I belive in some sort of higher being.
Indeed, I feel it insulting to the human race that people of all faiths attribute our greatest triumphs to some kind of being who is somehow 'better' than we are.
We are apes on the back of a rat on the back of a lizard, we have been into space, we can understand the universe at micro and macro levels, humans sacrafice themselves to save others and take suffering upon themselves because they would prefer they were hurt over another person. These things are against our nature.
To say that it's all because we are TOLD to do so by a God and not because we have broken genetic bonds and become more than we were born to be disgusts me.
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I'm very sorry that you find it insulting, or that you are offended that some people do not believe that humans understand everything.
"we can understand the universe at micro and macro levels". Oh really? Then please explain what it all means. Explain how it was made.
"To say that it's all because we are TOLD to do so by a God and not because we have broken genetic bonds and become more than we were born to be disgusts me." I seem to remember that man has free will, thus god cannot "tell" you to do anything. How would there be you if this was so? Also, can you argue that it was not God's way to break genetic bonds and evolve? Do not give me this "but the bible says" crap. I believe that the bible teaches morality through symbolism and allegory, it is not a diary of God.
Submitted by The_taste_of_Monkeys (user info) at 2004-11-10 08:28:49 EST (#)
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I feel sorry for you that you have to listen to the words of dead men to get any kind of pleasure from life.
I've always felt myslef to be a moral person but those morals comes from not wanting to cause pain to others that I would not want to feel myself, not because I belive in some sort of higher being.
Indeed, I feel it insulting to the human race that people of all faiths attribute our greatest triumphs to some kind of being who is somehow 'better' than we are.
We are apes on the back of a rat on the back of a lizard, we have been into space, we can understand the universe at micro and macro levels, humans sacrafice themselves to save others and take suffering upon themselves because they would prefer they were hurt over another person. These things are against our nature.
To say that it's all because we are TOLD to do so by a God and not because we have broken genetic bonds and become more than we were born to be disgusts me.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2004-11-10 08:19:15 EST (#)
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GK, you are full of shit.
Liberals preach tolerance, except for white christians. White christians preach "Love your neighbor". Liberals say "Let every vote count" until a conservative wins because every vote was counted (2000 as well as 2004). If I protested a peace protest, would the peace protesters commit battery on me? Its happened.
As far as the abortion arguement, that was weak dude. Check out post http://www.ubersite.com/m/50132 while you are at it. Read and learn, my son.
Submitted by GK (user info) at 2004-11-10 08:09:11 EST (#)
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Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2004-11-10 07:45:10 (#)
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Submitted by bart (user info) at 2004-11-09 20:15:43 (#)
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I think I remember a commandment somewhere that read "Thou shalt not kill". I must have missed the part where it said it was ok to kill Muslims and abortion clinic workers.
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Uh, bart, umm, 7 abortion providers vs. 30 million babies? Come on, that was weak. And, if you remember back to the beginning of the 2nd Iraq war, most, if not all, religious organizations were against the war. You obviously missed that part because in reality it really doesn't happen like that. Why is it liberals are so tolerant of everybody but white christians?
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It is still very debatable when an unborn baby is counted as human. Even if it's counted as human, they cannot mean as much as a fully grown person. No social ties at all. The only people who'll be affected by his death will be his parents, who DON'T WANT HIM IN THE FIRST PLACE. What next? Will people start killing vets because they put down animals?
"Why is it liberals are so tolerant of everybody but white christians?"
Maybe it's because white christians are intolerant of everybody who doesn't meet their bible values?
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2004-11-10 08:09:11 EST (#)
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Submitted by Fr057m0urn3 (user info) at 2004-11-10 01:00:16 (#)
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It's all fine and dainty to have a faith and all, nobody really cares. The problem comes when one tries to impose his morals on others, what's worse, through the use of law. Issues like gay marriage, abortion and stem cell research are basically about morality. You cannot legislate morality, especially a morality that stems from religion, for it's a slippery slope to religious intolerance. Imagine: Gay marriage now, what if a future Republican president decides that it is mandatory to own a Bible?
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There is no seperation between Church and State. The law clearly states that the government will not establish a religion, and anyone can practice whatever religion they want. It does not protect people from being exposed to religion, it merely prohibits people from being punished for practicing it.
Unfortunately, in today's society, it is a thorn in the side of those who want to justify any action they take to be held accountable to a higher authority. This is why the Ten Commandments cannot be shown in a courthouse in Mississippi. The Goddamn commandments are the basis of law in this country! Why can't we gaze upon this symbol of justice? Because it offends. It offends those who don't want to be held to the standards inscribed on those tablets.
Of course a president cannot decide that everyone own a bible(it would establish a national religion). Furthermore, if you cannot legislate morality, why is murder illegal? Why is stealing shit from your neighbor illegal? Why are juveniles ajudicated as incorrigble when they defy their parents? Why is it if you cheat on your spouse, you will get screwed in the divorce? Because all legislation (esp. criminal law) is fucking based on morality.
No morals=no law
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2004-11-10 07:56:39 EST (#)
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Submitted by FuckTheArmy (user info) at 2004-11-10 07:30:19 (#)
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Did I just hear a republican say he's a republican because of GOD?
Oh dear, comrades. He's misguided.
"God" died two thousand years ago.
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This reminded me of a bumper sticker I saw one time:
GOD IS DEAD!--Nietzsche
NIETZSCHE IS DEAD--God
Submitted by Jungle_Jimanee (user info) at 2004-11-10 07:56:13 EST (#)
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If you agree to ruthless evil just to stop a man buggering another man consensually, you are a mad hypocrite.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2004-11-10 07:53:07 EST (#)
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Submitted by screamfeeder (user info) at 2004-11-09 20:45:07 (#)
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----And Abraham said... She is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.
- Genesis 20:11-12----
PROOF that the Bible is OK with incest!!!
---In righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbor.
- Leviticus 19:15
Judge not, that ye be not judged.
- Matthew 7:1---
PROOF that the Bible itself does not even know itself what the fuck it is talking about!
---... thou shalt give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.
- Exodus 21:23-25
... resist not evil; but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
- Matthew 5:39---
PROOF that I can pull up any number of contradictions and errors made in a 2,000 year old SCIENCE FICTION STORY.
I can't wait till 2,000 years from now when people are worshipping Luke Skywalker or Bilbo Baggins and pulling it off.
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All your arguements proved is that there is a difference between Judaism and Christianity. Nothing else, certainly nothing contradictory. The word of god develops throughout the Bible, much like the plotline in a novel. Wrap your closed mind around that. And since the bible is okay with incest (according to a cultural norm of 3000BC Israel) you may go and fuck your mother. By the way, there is a little buton between your Tab key and your Shift key you may want to look in to. Just a suggestion.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2004-11-10 07:45:10 EST (#)
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Submitted by bart (user info) at 2004-11-09 20:15:43 (#)
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I think I remember a commandment somewhere that read "Thou shalt not kill". I must have missed the part where it said it was ok to kill Muslims and abortion clinic workers.
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Uh, bart, umm, 7 abortion providers vs. 30 million babies? Come on, that was weak. And, if you remember back to the beginning of the 2nd Iraq war, most, if not all, religious organizations were against the war. You obviously missed that part because in reality it really doesn't happen like that. Why is it liberals are so tolerant of everybody but white christians?
Submitted by 10c7c (user info) at 2004-11-10 07:35:06 EST (#)
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i hate you so much i wish i could meet you to fucking torture and kill you like you do to others
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Submitted by 10c7c (user info) at 2004-11-10 07:33:54 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
bored, procrastinating, still not done
SATAN WILL ENSURE THIS FUCK ROTS IN THE FIERY PITS OF HELL
HOW DARE YOU FUCKING ASSOCIATE WHAT SHOULD BE A PEACEFUL RELIGION AND USE IT AN ATTEMPT TO JUSTIFY YOUR OPPRESSION AND AGGRESSION UPON INNOCENT PEOPLE
YOU WILL BURN IN HELL DICKHEAD
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Submitted by FuckTheArmy (user info) at 2004-11-10 07:30:19 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
Did I just hear a republican say he's a republican because of GOD?
Oh dear, comrades. He's misguided.
"God" died two thousand years ago.
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2004-11-10 03:49:35 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
I rabidly disagree with you but I am trying to preach (if you'll pardon the pun) rating the way the post is written rather than the point of view.
Well written hence +2.
You are wrong of course.
Submitted by smurf_master (user info) at 2004-11-10 03:19:42 EST (#)
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You must realize that anything to the farthest extent is bad. If you take conservatism to extremist terms you get anarchy and liberalism turns into communism. This also applies to religion. The Pharisees (priests of the temples in biblical times) took things to far and Jesus condemned them for it.
Matthew 23:13
"Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You shut the kingdom of heaven in men's faces. You yourselves do not enter, nor will you let those enter who are trying to.[ 23:13 Some manuscripts to. 14 Woe to you, teachers of the law and Pharisees, you hypocrites! You devour widows' houses and for a show make lengthy prayers. Therefore you will be punished more severely.]
But imagine what our society would be like today if religion played no part in it.
I'm not trying to impose my morals on you. I'm just trying to give you a chance to learn why there here in the first place.
Submitted by Zoidberg (user info) at 2004-11-10 03:14:32 EST (#)
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To us we are not oppressing a man's right to marry another man, because he never had that right, and this is why we believe it: blah blah blah random bible quotes
Oh you're totally right and Sofa Ace is totally wrong. You're the very HEIGHT of tolerance.
Seriously, step back and look at what you're saying. "We're right because we say we are."
Has it ever occurred to you that Buddhists, Rastafarians, Hindus, Muslims what have you might be just as convinced in their own beliefs as you are in yours?
So what gives you the right to enforce your beliefs on others? Wait, let me guess. THE BIBLE!!!
Submitted by lush (user info) at 2004-11-10 02:44:12 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
Nope.
Submitted by Fr057m0urn3 (user info) at 2004-11-10 01:00:16 EST (#)
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It's all fine and dainty to have a faith and all, nobody really cares. The problem comes when one tries to impose his morals on others, what's worse, through the use of law. Issues like gay marriage, abortion and stem cell research are basically about morality. You cannot legislate morality, especially a morality that stems from religion, for it's a slippery slope to religious intolerance. Imagine: Gay marriage now, what if a future Republican president decides that it is mandatory to own a Bible?
Submitted by smurf_master (user info) at 2004-11-10 00:11:19 EST (#)
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Sofa_Ace-
"you wrote it looking for tolerance, yet you yourself are intolerant."
quote of the day
ok I can understand why you wrote this if you just read the bible verses, but rereading through the rest of my post I don't see how you can come to that conclusion
and for the rest of you guy's -2ing me because i'm a Christian that can't spell very well, that's ok. yes I know I should be really mad and typing in all caps. But come people lets tell the truth here, you still don't understand what Christians are all about. It's about love and faith.
Submitted by hohum (user info) at 2004-11-09 23:18:19 EST (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by screamfeeder (user info) at 2004-11-09 23:15:47 EST (#)
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And done upon them great vengeance with furious reproofs, And they have known that I {am} Jehovah, In My giving out My vengeance on them! -YLT
And I will execute great vengeance upon them with furious rebukes; and they shall know that I [am] the Lord, when I shall lay my vengeance upon them.-KJV
Bunch of others....
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2004-11-09 23:09:29 EST (#)
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Isn't the real version something like "you will know when I lay my vengeance upon thee?" The rest is just kind of theatric license.
Submitted by 10c7c (user info) at 2004-11-09 23:04:53 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
NO NO NO NO NO EAT A FUCKING DICK YOU DUMB CUNT
YOUR RELIGION TEACHES LOVE THY NEIGHBOUR AND A WHOLE BUNCH OF OTHER GOOD SHIT, FAITH IS AWESOME AND KEEPING YOUR FAITH STRONG IS ONLY A GOOD THING FOR YOURSELF AND THE WORLD.
BUT BEING A GOOD CHRISTIAN DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE TO BE AN UNEDUCATED ASSHOLE
BEING A GOOD CHRISTIAN DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE TO BE AN UNEDUCATED ASSHOLE
BEING A GOOD CHRISTIAN DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE TO BE AN UNEDUCATED ASSHOLE
BEING A GOOD CHRISTIAN DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE TO BE AN UNEDUCATED ASSHOLE
BEING A GOOD CHRISTIAN DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE TO BE AN UNEDUCATED ASSHOLE
BEING A GOOD CHRISTIAN DOES NOT MEAN YOU HAVE TO BE AN UNEDUCATED ASSHOLE
YOU ARE A FUCKING DISGRACE TO ALL CHRISTIANS SPOUTING THIS WORTHLESS CRAP
YOU WILL GO TO HELL FOR WHAT YOUR GOVERNMENT IS DOING
DO YOU THINK JESUS SUPPORTED THE KILLING OF INNOCENT CIVILIANS?
DO YOU THINK TRUE MODERN CHRISTIANS ARE ANTI-GAY?
NO NO NO NO NO NO NO
DIE YOU PIECE OF SHIT
DIE
DIE
DIE
DIE
DIE
DIE
Submitted by Zoidberg (user info) at 2004-11-09 23:00:18 EST (#)
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Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2004-11-09 22:29:08 (#)
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I have a Bible verse for you.
Ezekiel 25:17
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish, and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and goodwill shepard the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper, and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attemopt to poison and destroy my my brothers. And you will know my name is the lord, when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
Bob that's the Samuel L version. The real version doesnt sound near as cool
Submitted by RoosterCogburn (user info) at 2004-11-09 22:57:56 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
here's another brilliant warning from leviticus:
Leviticus 11:9-12 says:
9 These shall ye eat of all that are in the waters: whatsoever hath fins and scales in the waters, in the seas, and in the rivers, them shall ye eat.
10 And all that have not fins and scales in the seas, and in the rivers, of all that move in the waters, and of any living thing which is in the waters, they shall be an abomination unto you:
11 They shall be even an abomination unto you; ye shall not eat of their flesh, but ye shall have their carcases in abomination.
12 Whatsoever hath no fins nor scales in the waters, that shall be an abomination unto you.
godhatesshrimp.com!
Submitted by Sofa_Ace (user info) at 2004-11-09 22:56:57 EST (#)
Ranking: 1
Allow me to show you the tolerance that you don't show other people.
i think religion is basically a crutch to help people get through life. you mentioned that when you weren't following your faith then you had problems with addiction? It sounds to me like you're using christianity to cope,a nd without it you're turning to other thing to cope (this is just speculation, I culd very well be wrong). If that's the case, then I would have to say that the bible is bad fo you, as it's just another addiction.
You should read my post here: http://www.ubersite.com/m/49975 it might help.
Also, there are plenty of quotes in the bible that either don't make sense to us anymore, or are just too outdated to be useful, as you might have seen by some of the responses you got. So, unless you are prepared to defend every questionable verse in the bible, it's not such a good idea to bring it up. Read the story of lot if you want an example. He tries to trade his two virgin daughters to be gangraped in exchange for protecting the identity of two angels who he has taken into his home. He is later judged righteous by God. Later on, his daughters rape him and get impregnated by their own father.
The ironic part of this post is that you wrote it just so that people woud understand christians. Basically, you wrote it looking for tolerance, yet you yourself are intolerant. Isn't it ironic. DOn't you think?
Submitted by Death_Metal_Dude (user info) at 2004-11-09 22:31:15 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
Who cares?
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2004-11-09 22:29:08 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
I have a Bible verse for you.
Ezekiel 25:17
The path of the righteous man is beset on all sides by the inequities of the selfish, and the tyranny of evil men. Blessed is he, who in the name of charity and goodwill shepard the weak through the valley of darkness, for he is truly his brother's keeper, and the finder of lost children. And I will strike down upon thee with great vengeance and furious anger those who attemopt to poison and destroy my my brothers. And you will know my name is the lord, when I lay my vengeance upon thee.
Submitted by Teephphah (user info) at 2004-11-09 22:10:51 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
You knew you'd get flamed for this, right?
Keep on, keepin' on. Don't let the haters get you down.
Submitted by downerSTAIN (user info) at 2004-11-09 21:51:51 EST (#)
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Submitted by smurf_master (user info) at 2004-11-09 21:00:18 (#)
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the point of this post is to let you know were Christians are coming form so that you can understand them better and not mock them for there believes.
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First of all, it's beliefs.
Second, people don't mock Christians for their beliefs. At least, I don't. You can believe in God and Jesus and all that good stuff all you want. People mock Christians because
a) you think your way is the only right way, and you will not even consider any other points of view,
b) you make huge deals out of stupid little things (although the same can be said for the other side, via people getting up in arms about "under God" in the pledge and things like that),
and c) you're applying things that were written centuries ago to today's world, and doing it literally.
Submitted by great_angst (user info) at 2004-11-09 21:41:20 EST (#)
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Luckily there is nothing in the Bible about excessive spelling errors in my fast-written replies, so at least I won't go to hell for that.
Submitted by Zoidberg (user info) at 2004-11-09 21:33:57 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
I don't have a problem with your faith, or the strength it gives you.
I do have a problem with your kind thinking *your* faith is the only one that gives people strength.
People don't hate you because they're jealous of the rich full life you live. They hate you because you get a stick up your ass whenever someone suggests that there are other equally valid paths to self-fulfillment.
Submitted by great_angst (user info) at 2004-11-09 21:22:57 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
I can appreciate anyone who can coherently express their own opinions. Even if I don't agree.
This, however, is not one of those expressions.
This is bible verse recitation. Weak, one-sided recitation at that.
The bible if full of hundreds of (2000 year old) laws, rules, and suggestions for clean living. As a whole, the bible could turn half of our daily life (yours or mine ... 2000 years later) into a string of abominations sendings us straight to the land of fire and bimstone.
You are pulling out these specific examples to explain your own discomfort with homosexuals, and to justify descrimination.
As a former Southern Baptist who endured 18 years of Sunday School, Sunday Night Service, Wednesday Prayer Meetings, Thurdsay Fellowship meetings, Revivals, Heaven, Hell, and the Father, Son, and Holy Ghost ... I know what I'm talking about.
Learn how to think for yourself.
That's what Jesus would do.
Oh, and everything screamfeeder said.
Submitted by Degreeless_Capibara (user info) at 2004-11-09 21:06:04 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
Look, just because a bible preaches something, doesn't mean all Christians adhere to it. Most stereotypical rich white Christian republicans either don't know the bible worth shit, or distort it to the point where it loses almost all meaning. The bible is basically just a collection of parables. Jesus may or may not have existed. God may or may not give a shit about gays, if he exists. Etc. That's like saying that because racism is illegal in this country, it means there is no racism. To believe that would be most naive. There is and always will be racism, whether legal or not.
Submitted by screamfeeder (user info) at 2004-11-09 21:04:03 EST (#)
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smurf_master ,
There are over 500 different tranlations of the bible. I could find one verse that said the exact opposite of the same verse in a different translation.
This still does not address the fact that you base your life on a 2,000 year old story that has been re-written so many times it could have been a recipie for quiche when it started.
The bible has 0 impact on my daily life. Thats great that it has 100% impact on yours.
Now tell me. Other than YOUR faith.
How does two men or two women getting married have ANY impact on your life? Negative or Positive?
Submitted by smurf_master (user info) at 2004-11-09 21:00:18 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
the point of this post is to let you know were Christians are coming form so that you can understand them better and not mock them for there believes.
Submitted by smurf_master (user info) at 2004-11-09 20:57:00 EST (#)
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Leviticus 19
15 " 'Do not pervert justice; do not show partiality to the poor or favoritism to the great, but judge your neighbor fairly.
Genesis 20
11 Abraham replied, "I said to myself, 'There is surely no fear of God in this place, and they will kill me because of my wife.' 12 Besides, she really is my sister, the daughter of my father though not of my mother; and she became my wife.
Submitted by screamfeeder (user info) at 2004-11-09 20:45:07 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
----And Abraham said... She is my sister; she is the daughter of my father, but not the daughter of my mother; and she became my wife.
- Genesis 20:11-12----
PROOF that the Bible is OK with incest!!!
---In righteousness shalt thou judge thy neighbor.
- Leviticus 19:15
Judge not, that ye be not judged.
- Matthew 7:1---
PROOF that the Bible itself does not even know itself what the fuck it is talking about!
---... thou shalt give life for life, eye for eye, tooth for tooth, hand for hand, foot for foot, burning for burning, wound for wound, stripe for stripe.
- Exodus 21:23-25
... resist not evil; but whosoever shall smite thee on thy right cheek, turn to him the other also.
- Matthew 5:39---
PROOF that I can pull up any number of contradictions and errors made in a 2,000 year old SCIENCE FICTION STORY.
I can't wait till 2,000 years from now when people are worshipping Luke Skywalker or Bilbo Baggins and pulling it off.
Submitted by Random Joe at 2004-11-09 20:27:00 EST (#)
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Bart
We never said it was either, Idiot
Submitted by JinkyWilliams (user info) at 2004-11-09 20:26:17 EST (#)
Ranking: 1
A common mis-conception is the translation of the 6th commandment. It is often translated as "thou shalt not kill". In this form, the quote has been conscripted into the service of diverse causes, including those of pacifism, animal rights, the opposition to capital punishment, and the anti-abortion movement.
"Thou shalt not murder" is a closer translation. But the bottom line is there's no direct, word-for-word translation of the Hebrew word used (ratsah). The concept behind this word is the criminal taking of another's life.
There are different verbs that fall under "kill", but have different connotations. There is the verb for "killing in battle" "killing an animal.
Here are a couple applications of the concept behind "ratsah" in society today (including the war in Iraq):
Manslaughter. This one is simple enough, for as noted above, this crime of passion continues to this day. Few would dispute that the command applies here or to negligence.
Murder. Premeditated killing would come under the rubric of an animal lying in wait as above. Here again few would dispute that the command applies.
War. It is here that some difference of opinion arises, and anti-war protesters have at times used this command. In light of the above delineations it appears that such objectors could be right, if a war is pursued under certain conditions. Iraq's invasion of Kuwait would constitute a premeditated act; but our reply war in the Gulf was seen as a matter of liberation and defense, and the current (2002-3) war in Iraq is framed as a war of defense against terrorist elements. While making no statement on that issue, a war waged for such a purpose clearly does not come under the rubric of ratsach, nor would America's War of Independence, nor World War I and II as a whole (though of course individual acts of ratsach may still occur). Animals do not fight for their freedom from tyranny, and they fight to defend themselves, which is neither done in passion nor is it premeditated.
[from http://www.tektonics.org/lp/nokilling.html]
Basically, "thou shalt not kill" is a decent translation, but fails to grasp the concept behind the word. This is one issue that plagues any translation: One has to make a decision whether to do a word-to-word translation, or a more liberal societal connotation-themed translation.
Stay orange.
--JW
Submitted by heyzues (user info) at 2004-11-09 20:26:08 EST (#)
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA........I shit my self.
Man this was so freakin awesome, ya know, how you spewd forth the same text that every other conservative christian has said before. You can't be with a man as you would a woman, it's impossible no matter how gay you are, cause we don't have vaginas. Gay dudes stick it in the butt, not the vagina.
This is completely off topic, but I'm too damn lazy to read the bible. With todays technological advancements, would it be a sin to alter one's own genetics?
Submitted by Degreeless_Capibara (user info) at 2004-11-09 20:21:22 EST (#)
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Submitted by bart (user info) at 2004-11-09 20:15:43 (#)
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HEIL HITLER! KILL ALL JEWS! EXCEPT THOSE WHO POUND ME AND ARE ON THE MVA.
Submitted by bart (user info) at 2004-11-09 20:15:43 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
I think I remember a commandment somewhere that read "Thou shalt not kill". I must have missed the part where it said it was ok to kill Muslims and abortion clinic workers.