My Personal adventure with Arafat (517 hits)
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Submitted by Pearnbran Uber <pearnbran.at.yahoo.com> (View user info) at 2004-11-12 08:03:33 EST
On June 6, 1982, under the direction of Defense Minister Ariel Sharon, Israel invaded Lebanon with a massive force, called Operation Peace for the Galilee, driving all the way to Beirut and putting the PLO fighters and residents, as well as the Lebanese civilian population of that city, under siege, forcing a PLO evacuation.
I was with a special unit that evacuated Arafat and his thugs to Cypress (by far one of the Darkest moments in my military career)
Not long after that Arafat thanked The US.
. On October 23, just after dawn 241 Marines died when a truck packed with explosives blew up a Marine barracks at Beirut International Airport. At the same moment a similar explosion blew up a French military barracks a few kilometers away, killing 56 French troops. The US and France both retaliated with air and naval strikes against opposing positions in Lebanon, but to little effect. By February 1984 active fighting had broken out between Syrian-backed Druze and Muslim militia forces and the Lebanese Army. The position of the MNF as peace-keepers became untenable, their continuing value unclear, and their withdrawal was ordered. By Sunday, February 26, 1984 the last US Marines had been moved out of Lebanon to ships offshore.
Again my Unit was sent to Beirut, to investigate.
Also a note to the blind.
After crossing into Lebanon, We advanced along the shore, crossed the Awall River, went into Beirut, and then continued north through the Shouf Mountains along the flank of the main Syrian forces in the Beka'a Valley, threatening their rear as well as communications between Beirut and Damascus. As We captured PLO bases in southern Lebanon, We found huge caches of weapons supplied from virtually every arms-dealing country in the world, including the US, Britain, China, France, Germany, Japan, Libya, the Soviet Union, Sweden, and Vietnam. The We captured rocket-launchers, cannon, anti-aircraft guns, tanks, and thousands and thousands of light arms and ammunition, enough to equip many brigades.
This was 1982. However this place I believe there are Many of Iraqs weapons.
I have been there and witnessed these things with my own eyes.
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Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2004-11-12 09:46:53 EST (#)
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He didn't listen, because from his point of view, he is making progress. 20 years ago Israel wasn't wilingto give up anything. Now the west bank and more. By his logic in 30 years more time he may get what he wants.
Submitted by Pearnbran (user info) at 2004-11-12 09:24:51 EST (#)
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Point being, many people only repeat things they have seen on line or TV.
Tell us what us have seen with your own eyes.
And if you have Love for Arafat, I feel sorry for you.
I have listened to him speak to his Men. (He was a crazy bastard)
And seen the results of his actions.
The only reason he did not accept Clinton's peace deal.
Is that he would have lost his importance, and place. In the "world Game".
Submitted by Brianthetruthspeaker (user info) at 2004-11-12 09:10:44 EST (#)
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MYTH
"The PLO posed no real threat to Israel. When Israel attacked, the PLO had been observing a year-long cease-fire agreement."
FACT
The PLO had repeatedly violated the July 1981 cease-fire agreement. In the ensuing 11 months, the PLO staged 270 terrorist actions in Israel, the West Bank and Gaza, and along the Lebanese and Jordanian borders. Twenty-nine Israelis died, and more than 300 were injured in the attacks.4 The situation in the Galilee became intolerable as the frequency of attacks forced thousands of residents to flee their homes or to spend large amounts of time in bomb shelters. During this period, Israel launched retaliatory raids against PLO bases in Lebanon.
After Israel launched one such assault on June 4-5, 1982, the PLO responded with a massive artillery and mortar attack on the Israeli population of the Galilee. On June 6, the IDF moved into Lebanon to drive out the terrorists.
Former Secretary of State Henry Kissinger defended the Israeli operation: "No sovereign state can tolerate indefinitely the buildup along its borders of a military force dedicated to its destruction and implementing its objectives by periodic shellings and raids."5
"On Lebanon, it is clear that we and Israel both seek an end to the violence there, and a sovereign, independent Lebanon," President Reagan said June 21, 1982. "We agree that Israel must not be subjected to violence from the north."
Documents found by the IDF in Lebanon during the operation showed that terrorist groups had made detailed plans for shelling towns in northern Israel. The following are translations of two documents found at PLO headquarters in Sidon. Both were dated July 1981:
Name of Shelled Target: Kiryat Shemona
Number of Salvos: 17 shells in 2 portions, each portion 120mm
Unit in Charge: Artillery of the Joint Forces of the South.
To: El-Haj Ismail
Greetings for the Revolution!
The Supreme Military Council has decided to concentrate on the destruction of Kiryat Shemona, Metullah, Dan, Shear Yashuv and Nahariya and its vicinity.
Kiryat Shemona: will be distributed among all the platoons and will be shelled with improved "Grad" shells.
Metullah: will be shelled with 160mm mortars (Palestine Liberation Front-As-Saiqa).
Nahariya and its vicinity will be shelled with 130mm guns-Artillery Battalion 1
Dan and Shear Yashuv: will be the responsibility of the eastern sector.
Revolution until victory!6
Submitted by Dervel (user info) at 2004-11-12 09:09:44 EST (#)
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And then a hero comes along, with the strength to badly construct sentences...
Your point being?
Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2004-11-12 09:05:56 EST (#)
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Submitted by Brianthetruthspeaker (user info) at 2004-11-12 08:26:13 (#)
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MYTH
"Israel cannot claim that its 1982 invasion of Lebanon, launched against an ill-equipped PLO, was a defensive war."
FACT
By June 1982, when the IDF went into Lebanon, the PLO had made life in northern Israel intolerable, by its repeated shelling of Israeli towns.
A force of some 15-18,000 PLO members was encamped in scores of locations in Lebanon. About 5,000-6,000 were foreign mercenaries, coming from such countries as Libya, Iraq, India, Sri Lanka, Chad and Mozambique.1 Israel discovered enough light arms and other weapons in Lebanon to equip five brigades.2 The PLO had an arsenal that included mortars, Katyusha rockets, and an extensive anti-aircraft network. The PLO also brought hundreds of T-34 tanks into the area.3 Syria, which permitted Lebanon to become a haven for the PLO and other terrorist groups, brought surface-to-air missiles into that country, creating yet another danger for Israel.
Israeli strikes and commando raids had been unable to stem the growth of this PLO army. Israel was not prepared to wait for more deadly attacks to be launched against its civilian population before acting against the terrorists.
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While I do agree with some of the points you are saying. Can you still justify the type of warfare that was carried out there. We're talking retribution tactics like in WWII. Level the city through air strikes and naval bombardment, followed by heavy armor. The Israeli's wanted to show, and did a damn fine job, the rest of the middle east that if you fuck with them they will eat your children.
For the US to convey this kind of power isn't necessary, because we have 24 hour cable. Just show alot of glory shots. Bunkers being destroyed. Our latest fighter jets. Burning columns of Iraqi tanks. Their army surrendering in droves after 2 weeks. It sends the same message.
Submitted by Brianthetruthspeaker (user info) at 2004-11-12 08:50:47 EST (#)
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Looks like the end to anonymous posts!!! Hurray for Bart!!
Submitted by hairycoo (user info) at 2004-11-12 08:33:04 EST (#)
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interesting post - write more
"As soon as the cheque clears we're going in"
Bill Hicks
Submitted by Brianthetruthspeaker (user info) at 2004-11-12 08:26:13 EST (#)
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MYTH
"Israel cannot claim that its 1982 invasion of Lebanon, launched against an ill-equipped PLO, was a defensive war."
FACT
By June 1982, when the IDF went into Lebanon, the PLO had made life in northern Israel intolerable, by its repeated shelling of Israeli towns.
A force of some 15-18,000 PLO members was encamped in scores of locations in Lebanon. About 5,000-6,000 were foreign mercenaries, coming from such countries as Libya, Iraq, India, Sri Lanka, Chad and Mozambique.1 Israel discovered enough light arms and other weapons in Lebanon to equip five brigades.2 The PLO had an arsenal that included mortars, Katyusha rockets, and an extensive anti-aircraft network. The PLO also brought hundreds of T-34 tanks into the area.3 Syria, which permitted Lebanon to become a haven for the PLO and other terrorist groups, brought surface-to-air missiles into that country, creating yet another danger for Israel.
Israeli strikes and commando raids had been unable to stem the growth of this PLO army. Israel was not prepared to wait for more deadly attacks to be launched against its civilian population before acting against the terrorists.
Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2004-11-12 08:23:21 EST (#)
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Indeed.
Isael's attack on the Lebanese people was more about retribution and a show of strength, rather than "securing peace in their homeland". Kind of sounds like the US. We immediatley lashed out after 9-11, as retribution. We were not going to "let" the terrorists do this. And we did a show of strength on Iraq. 24 hour coverage of the push to baghdad.
And Apollo's comment....wow
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2004-11-12 08:18:57 EST (#)
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This has so much potential to be an awesome personal story.
Submitted by toddska (user info) at 2004-11-12 08:17:51 EST (#)
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Good point Apollo
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2004-11-12 08:07:24 EST (#)
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I say to you, Allah knows that it had never occurred to us to strike the towers. But after it became unbearable and we witnessed the oppression and tyranny of the American/Israeli coalition against our people in Palestine and Lebanon, it came to my mind.
The events that affected my soul in a direct way started in 1982 when America permitted the Israelis to invade Lebanon and the American Sixth Fleet helped them in that. This bombardment began and many were killed and injured and others were terrorised and displaced.
I couldn't forget those moving scenes, blood and severed limbs, women and children sprawled everywhere. Houses destroyed along with their occupants and high rises demolished over their residents, rockets raining down on our home without mercy.
The situation was like a crocodile meeting a helpless child, powerless except for his screams. Does the crocodile understand a conversation that doesn't include a weapon? And the whole world saw and heard but it didn't respond.
In those difficult moments many hard-to-describe ideas bubbled in my soul, but in the end they produced an intense feeling of rejection of tyranny, and gave birth to a strong resolve to punish the oppressors.
Osama Bin Laden.
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Two sides to every coin.
Submitted by Brianthetruthspeaker (user info) at 2004-11-12 08:05:31 EST (#)
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No shit?