Natural Born Citizen? Nope. Badass Killing Machine? Yep. Vote Arnold in 2008! (1729 hits)
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Submitted by youarsoghey (View user info) at 2004-11-16 15:28:34 EST
Are you sick of having to choose between the lesser of two evils when voting for a president?
Did the Bush-Gore and Bush-Kerry elections make you feel like you'd rather practice anal penetration on yourself with a spiked club than go out and vote?
Are you sick of candidates who don't even have the slightest bit of charisma?
Are you sick of candidates that proudly represent the extreme wings of their parties? Why would anybody want a president that represents only a small portion of Americans?
I've got to say, I don't like my answers to most of those questions. Whether you are from India or New Jersey, you know that the Presidency of the United States is one of the most coveted positions of power in the world. It governs one of the most prosperous nations with one of the most powerful militaries. Yet the leaders our nation rarely evoke a sense of national pride anymore.
99% of this country's population is a part of a family that immigrated here within the last 200 years. Almost all of us are part of immigrant families! Nearly all of the immigrant families came here with nothing to find a new life full of promise. We are built on this notion of immigration, yet no immigrant has ever had the chance to run for the highest public office in the land.
So who gets to be president? Trust fund children and people who boast about their voluntarily serving in the military when other, poorer people HAD to do it in order to get GI plans that would save their family from debt. Who's the real hero? Is it the man who put his life on the line for an idea and whim, or the man who put his life on the line to save his family from starvation?
The point is, the working class people with real "American dreams" to become better through hard work are the real heroes and backbone of our country. That said, what is more impressive than a man who legitimately rises up from his blue collar lifestyle to become a success?
This is where Arnold Schwarzenegger comes in. Regardless of how you feel about his acting abilities, you've got to admit that he is the quintessential "American dreamer." He came to this country as a young man as an aspiring body-builder. I think most of you know the rest of the story about how he starred in a bunch of crappy movies for a while and then hit it big with a few big ones that made him a superstar.
Despite his immense wealth, he sticks close to where he came from. He loves America, but he still loves his land of birth - Austria. He appreciates his wealth, but he still understands what it means to be poor. He's managed to set California on a plan to strike an even budget, improve spending per student in their education programs, and not raise taxes at the same time.
Why should Republicans vote for Arnold Schwarzenegger? Because he could revive the party's image. He is a forward-thinking man who certainly doesn't have any trouble being tough when he needs to be. He believes in retaining military bases and supporting troops. He is a very morally strong person even though he might have been a bit wilder when he was young. Who wasn't, though?
Why should Democrats vote for Arnold Schwarzenegger? Because he is the closest thing to a Democrat they will be able to get in the White House for a little while. The most "electable" Democratic candidate couldn't defeat an incumbent who actually lost the popular vote to a guy named Al Gore with an attitude to match his dull name. He believes in spending on education, despite his goals to keep taxes down. He believes in pro-environmental initiatives like the development of hydrogen fuel cells for automobiles.
Why should everyone else vote for Arnold Schwarzenegger? Because he can rebuild our image around the world. As the governor of California, he has already "wowed" many nations with his amazing diplomatic skills. He is also a European who can appeal to some of the nations in that continent whose friendships we have recently soured. He appeals to the large amount of moderates who don't align themselves with either political party. A president should be able to moderate an argument and compromise instead of use his power to push forth extreme ideals that a majority of the country's people don't believe in.
I am a moderate who normally listens intently to presidential candidates on both sides. I applaud 20% of the things they say and cringe the rest of the time. I'm sick of having agenda-pushers in the white house. Why can't we have a person who appeals to all people and not just their constituents? I believe a foreigner, and Austrian, is the best the there's been in a long time.
Before you put this idea down, please consider the issue carefully. Some links you should check out before you make any decision:
http://www.joinarnold.com/en/press/pressdetail.php?id=547 - Those are some of the things Arnold's done in California over the last year. It gives you a good idea about where he stands on certain issues.
http://slate.msn.com/id/2096192/ - That's a pretty good article about why the writers of the constitution decided to put in "Natural born citizen" as a criterion to be president.
http://www.amendforarnold.com/ - This is the website that started this whole initiative. In just a few months, they claim to already have about 12 million people on their subscriber list. If you want to support this push to amend the constitution, all you have to do is sign up; you don't have to do anything else.
Remember that although I gave a whole bunch of "Arnold for President" arguments in this post, I am mainly arguing for the amendment to the constitution. Immigrant citizens who have lived here for 14 years should have the ability to run for president based on our rich immigrant history.
Just one last reason why Arnold should be president: We wouldn't need a military. We'd have a terminator.
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Submitted by right_wing_extremist (user info) at 2005-03-16 19:00:38 EST (#)
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I'll give you another +1 because Arnold's dad was a Sturmabteilungsman, and I respect that. Sieg heil.
Submitted by right_wing_extremist (user info) at 2005-03-16 18:57:52 EST (#)
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Plus 2 for good use of the English language. You are definately literate.
Minus 1 because I'm going to write in G. Gordon Liddy in '08.
Submitted by Mario (user info) at 2004-11-17 13:20:32 EST (#)
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Sorry to hitwhore, but if you're an Arnold fan, you'll like this:
http://www.ubersite.com/m/51830
Submitted by UlfGabe (user info) at 2004-11-16 22:47:41 EST (#)
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I believe that in order to be the President of the U.S. you should be born here. I think it is a reasonable request.
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not really, just put in a certain number of years needed to be able to be pres.
like 18, so then when a person is 18 years old, then they can run for pres, or if they come to america whenever, then its 18 year countdown.
ITS THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
bum - bum - bumbunubm
ITS THE FINAL COUNTDOWN
Submitted by someone (user info) at 2004-11-16 21:14:11 EST (#)
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I"m assuming this was a joke, so I'll give this a plus 2 on that assumption. On a serious note, having Arnold as a president would be an act so asinine and so shameful that it will be forever mocked in our short lived history. A fucking actor and musclehead as a leader of our people? A man who can barely speak our language? A man who used the phrase "stop being a girly-man" at a fucking REPUBLICAN CONVENTION? How is this piece of trash even in politics? Answer: Because the vast majority of America is a mindless and sickening group of people, amused by terrible 80's movies and witty one liners and taking the focus farther and farther away from politics and closer toward a glamour lifestyle that we have been pushing ourselves toward for the last fifty years or so. I can't wait for the world to break into total chaos and 99% of the human race destroyed, I don't care if I die as well.
Sorry for the rant, I laughed.
Submitted by Ferretnose (user info) at 2004-11-16 19:06:48 EST (#)
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I don't know how bright the man is, but I would definitely vote for him for these reasons:
1) Nearly everyone has already heard of him, and most people like him.
2) He has his own money, which he earned himself, even if he got it by acting and posing.
3) He's already a very powerful man- he's not likely to go on a power trip.
4) Like you said, he'll be immune to mudslinging, because his life has been public domain for so long. Nothing they can say about him will surprise the public because he never claimed to be some big moral person.
5) The last time we had an actor in office, I had a real good time.
F.
Submitted by mikethescottish (user info) at 2004-11-16 18:11:38 EST (#)
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Arnie has suprised me by being one of the most likeable american politicians i've ever come across- though i'd still rather go drinking with Bill Clinton.
Submitted by GodLovesALittleLovin (user info) at 2004-11-16 17:52:46 EST (#)
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I think that we should have Hugh Jackman dress as Wolverine and stay in character for four years and be Arnolds vice.
Submitted by Mario (user info) at 2004-11-16 16:50:34 EST (#)
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Plus his wife is a democrat. Arnold needs to get put into office, this minute, right now.
Submitted by ckoewing (user info) at 2004-11-16 16:42:27 EST (#)
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thanks, hehe, i can be some times.
i was just making rediculous things that would sound funny with Arnold saying, then all that started spewing out, lol, totally go caught in the moment, i'm so proud, haha. toture is fun, lol.
Submitted by youarsoghey (user info) at 2004-11-16 16:30:21 EST (#)
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ckoewing,
You're out of your fucking mind. I like it.
Submitted by youarsoghey (user info) at 2004-11-16 16:29:34 EST (#)
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Submitted by darko (user info) at 2004-11-16 16:27:54 (#)
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Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2004-11-16 15:48:08 (#)
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Nobody knows how tough Arnold really is so it's not fair to say that he can be if he has to be.
I believe that in order to be the President of the U.S. you should be born here. I think it is a reasonable request.
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Perfectlly reasonable request on your part. I mean all we're asking of these people is that they are born in the u.s. and if they don't havethe decency to be born where we want them to be then they don't deserve equal rights.
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Absolutely.
Submitted by darko (user info) at 2004-11-16 16:27:54 EST (#)
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Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2004-11-16 15:48:08 (#)
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Nobody knows how tough Arnold really is so it's not fair to say that he can be if he has to be.
I believe that in order to be the President of the U.S. you should be born here. I think it is a reasonable request.
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Perfectlly reasonable request on your part. I mean all we're asking of these people is that they are born in the u.s. and if they don't havethe decency to be born where we want them to be then they don't deserve equal rights.
Submitted by ckoewing (user info) at 2004-11-16 16:24:38 EST (#)
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didn't read it sorry, but don't need to really, cause Arnold kicks ass. Arnold for prez!
some thing's i could immagine him saying as president: (read as if Arnold was saying these, in his kick ass Austrian accent)
"I will termenate the alquida! terminate alquida!"
"My fellow americans, i am honered to accept the title of 'Commander in Cheif,' yet i would rather like to be called "The Terror Terminator" for short, thank you, Terminate the girly men!"
"John Kerry, aswell as my wife, are democrats and they both suck rebublican cock"
"My fellow americans, we have finally found the infamous terrorist Osoma Binladen, for his punishment we are going to give him decaf coffee, den we will remove his tiny genitallia, make him eat it as if it were raw sushi, then tell him what he ate, den we will wait till his estragen has overpowered his testosterone so that he grows breasts. then we will inject them with cancer. then we will put him through kemo, once the cancer has spread a bit. we will cut off his hands, and feet, legs, and arms. we will take his fingers and one at a time shove them up his ass. then cut off his nose, and replace it with Michael Jackson's old one, cut off his eye lids, so that he can't close them to fall asleep easily, then we will cut out his tongue. remove his teeth, no anistesia of course, glue them to his chest and back so if he falls over either way he will push them into his body. we will now somehow put him on display infront of the new WTC building, and let people do whatever the fuck they want with him, with a sign that urges people not to kill him, suffering is better for revenge, we will also install permanant hearing ades so that he won't miss anything we say (by now he will have learned english, fluently, no worries). once he has died we will boil his body to speed up the decaying proccess, then glue all his (fucking) bones together and put him on display where he was before but his bones will be hung by a noose. These events will be broadcast over every major news station on TV 24/7, and also on the world wide web of course, on the new GIG server recently invented by the military. thank you and good night, the torture will begin tomorrow morning, just like his jack ass. please tune in, wip out the popcorn, no boose, you won't want to forget this. there will be no commercials, no interuptions of any kind. Justice will be served."
(if nothing else read the last quote, writing it brightened up my day)
Submitted by youarsoghey (user info) at 2004-11-16 16:23:53 EST (#)
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zakalwe,
I'm pretty sure Obama is over 35 years old. He looks around 40 and he is a very serious guy who could kick the ass of many people. I would love to have an Obama-Schwarzenegger election. I would have a difficult time deciding based on good things versus bad things.
munkey,
Face it. You're just blinded by his enormous muscles.
Submitted by Davros (user info) at 2004-11-16 16:22:09 EST (#)
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Submitted by xenon (user info) at 2004-11-16 16:06:52 (#)
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it's not gonna happen.
My prediction:McCain vs. Clinton (the more feminie one of the two) McCain wins after a massive, mud-slinging campaign.
So Bill is coming back in 08 ?
Who would have guessed.
-Davros
Submitted by munkeypants (user info) at 2004-11-16 16:21:08 EST (#)
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I've just seen what he has accomplished and I have just seen what he stands for and promises.
I think that is the first time I have ever been impressed by a politician!
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2004-11-16 16:21:00 EST (#)
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Could Obama run as early as 2008?
It's worrying that the Republicans can field a piss-poor candidate and win on issues, but Democrats need a stellar candidate like Clinton or Obama to come close.
Submitted by youarsoghey (user info) at 2004-11-16 16:15:44 EST (#)
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tinactin,
That's an interesting argument, and completely valid if the Democrats are stupid enough to put Hillary Clinton on the ticket in 2008. However, if someone like Barrack Obama gets on the ticket, they may need their own superstar to retain the presidency.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2004-11-16 16:10:56 EST (#)
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Condi Rice, President in 2008
Eric Rice, Convicted criminal 2008 (Child molesting)
Submitted by tinactin (user info) at 2004-11-16 16:09:47 EST (#)
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Submitted by FATMANTPK (user info) at 2004-11-16 16:03:52 (#)
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Submitted by tinactin (user info) at 2004-11-16 15:44:54 (#)
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Even if we changed our Constitution for one man (which I am opposed to doing) Arnold is too moderate to ever get through the RNC.
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Arnold may be too moderate, but wouldn't the RNC still nominate him just because he would be a well known and liked candidate, regardless of his politics? Yes...that would be selling out your party's beliefs, but hasn't that been done anyway? Would they trade their party line ideals for a garaunteed Repulican in the White House?
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Possibly. Although I'm not sure it would be a wise move, politically. Everything is going in the GOP's favor right now, and it is in large part due to their recent courting of the far-right portion of the party. Moral values issues galvanized the hardcore Republican base. I'm not sure a Moderate (particularly on those moral issues) like Arnold would serve to do anything but drive a wedge amongst various factions within the party.
Submitted by NYCRulz (user info) at 2004-11-16 16:09:12 EST (#)
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Ah-nuld rules........he can go to france and germany and ask Jacque Strappe "who is your daddy and what does he do?". Go Ahnuld!!
Submitted by youarsoghey (user info) at 2004-11-16 16:07:48 EST (#)
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Submitted by xenon (user info) at 2004-11-16 16:06:52 (#)
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it's not gonna happen.
My prediction:McCain vs. Clinton (the more feminie one of the two) McCain wins after a massive, mud-slinging campaign.
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That's assuming McCain even wants to run.
Submitted by youarsoghey (user info) at 2004-11-16 16:07:09 EST (#)
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I think Arnold is a "tough" guy who appeals to softer people with the way he talks and handles himself. I think that, no matter what side he is on, he could win an election based on name power alone (which I don't think is a bad thing in this case). The Republican primaries would just prove how much support he could garner.
Submitted by xenon (user info) at 2004-11-16 16:06:52 EST (#)
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it's not gonna happen.
My prediction:McCain vs. Clinton (the more feminie one of the two) McCain wins after a massive, mud-slinging campaign.
Submitted by FATMANTPK (user info) at 2004-11-16 16:03:52 EST (#)
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Submitted by tinactin (user info) at 2004-11-16 15:44:54 (#)
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Even if we changed our Constitution for one man (which I am opposed to doing) Arnold is too moderate to ever get through the RNC.
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Arnold may be too moderate, but wouldn't the RNC still nominate him just because he would be a well known and liked candidate, regardless of his politics? Yes...that would be selling out your party's beliefs, but hasn't that been done anyway? Would they trade their party line ideals for a garaunteed Repulican in the White House?
Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2004-11-16 15:48:08 EST (#)
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Nobody knows how tough Arnold really is so it's not fair to say that he can be if he has to be.
I believe that in order to be the President of the U.S. you should be born here. I think it is a reasonable request.
My wife is in Vegas this week and she went to an air show and Arnold was there. She managed to get a picture with him. After the picture was taken, Arnold got a phone call. It was from the President himself. My wife was pretty freaked out by that (in a good way).
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2004-11-16 15:45:56 EST (#)
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Good argument. I like Arnold, but I don't like the idea of amending The Constitution for one person - no matter who he or she may be.
Submitted by tinactin (user info) at 2004-11-16 15:44:54 EST (#)
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Even if we changed our Constitution for one man (which I am opposed to doing) Arnold is too moderate to ever get through the RNC.
Submitted by youarsoghey (user info) at 2004-11-16 15:43:50 EST (#)
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I agree with you, Jack. Aside from a minor detail (you can't run unless you've been a US resident for fourteen years), any whacko CAN run for president. But you have to understand that that's what makes the system great. Also, you're assuming that America doesn't have whackos. Or worse, America doesn't have whackos with presidential aspirations.
*cough* Al Sharpton *cough*
Submitted by whataefag (user info) at 2004-11-16 15:39:53 EST (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by kai070169 (user info) at 2004-11-16 15:38:37 EST (#)
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True dat. The Phillipines elect all their top movie stars. I'd vote for him. I saw a CNN pole for this on TV last night... has the conspiracy begun? I hope so.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2004-11-16 15:38:29 EST (#)
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at last, someone makes sense in this shitty day
Submitted by Jack_McCallum (user info) at 2004-11-16 15:37:35 EST (#)
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I'm a naturalized American citizen (and damned proud of it), and I'm against this. I mean, any fucking whacko in the country for just 5 or 6 or 7 years could get citizenship and run for the Oval Office*. It's crazy.
I've already heard resident aliens saying, "Well if that passes then we should be able to vote." Fuck you. Become a citizen, then you can vote. Otherwise pay your taxes, keep filling out the absentee ballots for your homeland, and shut the hell up.
*I am exempt from this, of course. I have no intention of running for office.
Submitted by spedmonkey (user info) at 2004-11-16 15:36:45 EST (#)
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It needs to be a "PRedator" ticket in 2008. Arnold/Ventura. That would be insane.
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2004-11-16 15:35:21 EST (#)
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Arnie fucking rules. Why not settle for SecDef?
Submitted by lojope (user info) at 2004-11-16 15:34:46 EST (#)
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Very very Interesting...
Submitted by Davros (user info) at 2004-11-16 15:33:29 EST (#)
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This was very good. well written with an intelligent arguement.
But............
You heard it here first.
Jesse "The Body" Ventura for Pres 2008.
-Davros
Submitted by shitfuck (user info) at 2004-11-16 15:32:32 EST (#)
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I'm tired of all this nuclear responsibility--I say drop 'em.
We've got christians and muslims intermixed all over the world, so let's nuke everything and figure out once and for all which god is teh greatest. Obviously, the real god will keep his followers safe while everyone else is melting into flesh soup from the hotter than the sun flames engulfing everything.
Well--wouldn't she?
Nah....
But it'd be a shitload of fun, that's for sure!
Submitted by Schwarzes_Glas (user info) at 2004-11-16 15:31:59 EST (#)
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Instead of a "running mate" - he could be considered a "running man." HA! HAHA! HAHAHAHAHAHA!