Rap, and Why it Sucks Hardcore (1289 hits)
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Submitted by Jabroni (View user info) at 2005-01-05 21:39:22 EST
I don't listen to rap. I hate it, and never will listen to it on purpose. I have about 700 songs (just got it, still getting started) on my iPod and only one is rap. That was an accident because it was part of a Prodigy album that I put on their, Always Outnumbered, Never Outgunned". Since I go to a rich, predominately white high school, everyone who's anyone listens to rap. They also pretend to black, but if I remember I'll get to that later.
It makes me angry, and here's why:
First off, we get the enormously complex drum beat. It lasts about 4 to 8 beats before it starts over. This lasts the entire song. So for two to four minutes we get the same 8 second beat, over and over.
Secondly, the annoying synthesized rhythm; which is the only thing that classifies these things as songs. Much like the drum beat; this usually lasts a little bit longer, about as long as a line of the chorus or so. Then it repeats, and we are forced to have it stuck in our heads forever. This also brings me to another point: they have run out of these clever three-beat rhythms. So they diverted to the good stuff, like classic Black Sabbath (have no idea who the fucker that ruined this song is) and Aerosmith (stupid Eminem, I should cap his ass—oh wait, is this a rap song? Because you can't have a rap song unless you talk about killing cops or how George Bush sucks or something...). Now they've teamed up with Linkin Park, to produce the worst pile of shit ever imagined.
Thirdly, the lyrics. Out of every kind of music, this kind takes the cake. Stupid, unoriginal, repetitive blather that never tells you anything other than how they busted a cop's ass with their 9mm, while high, while getting laid, in the ghetto. (So what if that's a run-on sentence, eat my dick.)
Lastly, the whole persona that is rap. How the fans act, how the rappers act, how they call themselves 'artists' when if you gave them a guitar they'd say, "fuck nigga, I don't play soccer! I'm gonna bust gats on yo' azz!" The fans always argue about how rock is just as bad. They say it's just Devil worshipping noise. I'm not really into the hard rock stuff, like Metallica or Korn (I'm not comparing those two, because Korn is who they are because of MTV, and we all know MTV sucks. Korn still has 98032 times as much talent as ANY rapper). I love alternative rock, grunge, and classic rock, like Tom Petty, The Hammer of the Gods. Have you ever heard an instrumental rap song? That's what I though, there aren't any, and that's because it would be exactly the same the entire way through. Ever just listened to rap without paying attention to the audio? Yea that's what I though, nothing special. Look at Joe Satriani, the GREAT guitarist. I bet probably over 80% of all his own work is instrumental. I have three of his albums, a total of about 40 songs, and 4 have lyrics in them.
Good music = anything but rap, and pop glamour bullshit fed to us through the boobs of beautiful women such as Britney or whatever.
All right that's it, oh, and by the way...
How to make a rap song:
1. Make sure you grew up in the ghetto, have a brother in prison, or got shot. Or at least be a very good liar.
2. Take a classic song, such as Black Sabbath's Crazy Train, or Aerosmith's Dream on, or, if you're old school, Aerosmith's Walk This Way
3. Take the basic rhythm sequence
4. And rap lyrics. (somewhere along the theme of: cops suck, I fuck mad hoes, and I bust gats on yo' ass)
5. Add a synthesized drum beat.
If you disagree with anything you find on this post, you are wrong... (ty maddox)
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Submitted by Davood (user info) at 2005-11-07 17:04:37 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
*clap clap*
you explained my post in greater deal and much better than i could have
Submitted by Umbilical_Cord (user info) at 2005-03-29 19:30:20 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
YES
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-03-04 01:49:47 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
Bit too high school hit it right on the head.
When you turnin 18, dude?
Submitted by the_lone_stranger (user info) at 2005-03-04 01:36:27 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
if you don't like rap then drop it like it's hot - drop it like it's hot
personally, I hate pop, including pop rap
Submitted by EvilJay (user info) at 2005-03-04 01:32:27 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
I've got 5 words for you asshat, Skee-lo and Positive-K.
Sho'nuf.
Submitted by gbusman (user info) at 2005-03-04 01:32:20 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
A bit too highschool, but I'll give you a 2 for hating MTV. Actually, I like rap without lyrics, electronic, much better than rap with.
-Bus
Submitted by EvilJay (user info) at 2005-03-04 01:32:14 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
I've got 4 words for you asshat, Skee-lo and Positive-K.
Sho'nuf.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-03-04 01:31:17 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
I have some kool-aid for you.
Submitted by ThineJericho (user info) at 2005-03-04 01:26:12 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
Tell your parents that cousins shouldn't marry.
Submitted by DanielH (user info) at 2005-03-04 01:15:40 EST (#)
Ranking: 1
I don't believe rap would be where it is today if Aerosmith had not teamed up with R/DMC way back when on MTV; it boosted both bands But I'm a CORE Aerosmith fan (espially before they cleaned up, (Toys, Draw The Line, Night In The Ruts, Done With Mirrors, et cetra, and even after, to a lesser extent). Aerosmith and Blondie were the first rappers. Period. ("Rapture," by B., "Walk This Way," A.Smith, amongst countless others by both.}
Submitted by Ed_0150 (user info) at 2005-03-04 00:32:13 EST (#)
Ranking: -1
I'm not a rap fan.... but this sucked balls.
Submitted by Joemama (user info) at 2005-03-04 00:18:25 EST (#)
Ranking: 1
I especially enjoy all of the rap love songs available
Submitted by bush_for_god (user info) at 2005-01-23 20:04:21 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
you're damn right G-Prime. and here's #6
6. get a mainstream rapper like snoop dogg to say one line of your song (9 times out of ten that one line will be "sup niggaz dis is snoooooooooop" and that's it
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2005-01-23 17:02:29 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
You people who are suggesting "good" rap bands to the author must realize that he doesn't give a flying fuck and will never bother, right?
Submitted by YourDadGuido (user info) at 2005-01-23 16:29:53 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
"Thirdly, the lyrics. Out of every kind of music, this kind takes the cake. Stupid, unoriginal, repetitive blather that never tells you anything other than how they busted a cop's ass with their 9mm, while high, while getting laid, in the ghetto. (So what if that's a run-on sentence, eat my dick.)"
I'll grant you drum beats and "white representation of rap", but my only argument stems from this statement above.
5 Best Rappers or Group:
1) Immortal Technique
2) Public Enemy
3) Dead Prez
4) Poor Righteous Teachers
5) NWA
--- What you can gather from these groups, if you'd bother to do any research on what 'rap' is (as in different genre's and artists) is that lyrics can be quite impressive. Rap or Hip Hop can be utilized in a way rarely seen with other genre in terms of social and political movements (if you say Punk, I'll slap you, because most Punk Musicians are retards). Therefore, look these groups up, listen to their music, than make a judgement call...perhaps afterward, you won't sound so fucking ignorant.
Submitted by MANICMOTHER (user info) at 2005-01-23 16:13:09 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
Submitted by Auf-Der-Maur (user info) at 2005-01-23 15:30:01 (#)
Ranking: -1
Country music is far worse than rap
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my husband says he'd rather punch himself in the testicles than listen to country so by comparison rap can't be that bad.
Submitted by cwl989 (user info) at 2005-01-23 16:12:32 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
Have you ever tried to rap? It's hard, it takes some skill.
Submitted by drumfeeb (user info) at 2005-01-23 15:54:47 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
There is good music in every genre and if you don't think so, I'll give you a little hint, IT'S NOT ON THE RADIO! Rap/Hip-Hop is just like every other genre of music these days, you've got to check out the underground stuff to find the good artists. Just because you haven't taken the time to find good hip hop doesn't mean all of it's crap. Check out Dead Prez, Aesop Rock, El-P, Immortal Technique, and Sage Francis.
"Pound for pound
I'm the most positive when I bust mine
The Zoo adds on like a plus sign
Addition, that's the key in the ignition
With no pause, I propel to pole position (Vroom!)
Ahead of the pack, light years ahead of the wack
I give a fiend a Good Book, instead of the crack
That's the gold mine, negativity can't hold mine"
Immortal Technique - Positive Balance
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2005-01-23 15:52:35 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
+1 because most rap sucks shit
-1 because not ALL rap sucks shit.
even 0 because I own every Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath, Bob Marley vinyl and tons of Bob Dylan, but I can appreciate some rap.
Did that make sense? No, because there is a blizzard outside and what do Canadians do in blizzard conditions? Drink beer, smoke pot, and listen to Led Zeppelin, Black Sabbath and Bob Marley. Long story short, I am high.
Submitted by Auf-Der-Maur (user info) at 2005-01-23 15:30:01 EST (#)
Ranking: -1
Country music is far worse than rap
Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2005-01-23 15:28:46 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
Rap isn't my thing either. I too listen to classic rock and roll (think Jethro Tull, Doors, Led Zepplin, Eagles). BUT...I can appreciate Rap as an art form.
Really when you cut all the bullshit away, Rap is not unlike Beat poetry.
Submitted by whiskey_jack (user info) at 2005-01-23 15:24:57 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Rappers for the most part should never be called artist or musicians. The vast majority care very little for the actual artistic elements of music and simply go into hip-hop to make money and not have to really work for it. Not to mention how obviously shallow and fake they are. After a rapper has his first album about being from the "hood" he loses all credibility to say anything about being tough or from the ghetto. Not only that but they are partially responsible for the stereotypes of thugs and violent gansters that black men in the hood are trying to be. Instead of giving their community positive role models, thjey instead talk about violence, hoes, and other negative stereotypes that reinforce the stereotypes of men in the ghetto. Instead of trying to sell more and more albums they should be trying to help their community, instead of indirectly harming it, once they've reached a level of success.
Submitted by JERKKFACE (user info) at 2005-01-23 15:09:09 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
No FatTony, being skinny is better.
Submitted by stevostheking (user info) at 2005-01-13 03:24:43 EST (#)
Ranking: -1
Why has nobody yet mentioned Grandmaster Flash yet? Get off MTV and live a little. And for you vettes, how can you say that music needs a singer to be good when there is all that wonderful classical music out there, I love that shit (and no, I'm not 117, I just like to keep my options open)
Submitted by wasabi (user info) at 2005-01-13 02:43:56 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
Oh, and those drum beats are not complex in the slightest.
Submitted by LordJirate (user info) at 2005-01-13 02:40:16 EST (#)
Ranking: -1
Because you didn't elaborate on just how your schoolmates 'try to black'.
Please try to be a bit more thorough.
Submitted by CanucksFan (user info) at 2005-01-13 02:38:26 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
I didn't really care for rap, but after reading this peice of shit..I dunno.
negative rating bashing rap is almost impossible...
Submitted by wasabi (user info) at 2005-01-13 01:50:47 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
Try Sage Francis, Saul Williams, Del the Funky Homosapien, Lyrics Born and The Roots. Conscious Hiphop with good music behind it. Not to mention very small underground bands like Listen. and Sweet Nectar. But they're too underground to hear anything of theirs, unless you go to http://www.listencrew.com and check out some mp3's. Anyway, expand your mind before you argue about something you don't know.
Actually, seems like you're just trying to get most heated.
Submitted by mxc_jwebber (user info) at 2005-01-13 01:36:31 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
You are an uncultured asshole. How dare you insult a genre you do not understand? Rap songs aren't all about killing cops, smoking weed, fuckin' hoes and ice. It's not all about the ghetto. Ignorant people like you give America a bad name. I hope you choke.
Submitted by MandaPanda (user info) at 2005-01-13 01:25:51 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
I completely thought that said, "Rape, and why it sucks."
Oh, jeeze. I'm going to bed.
But, yes, it does suck. Both of them.
Submitted by GodLovesALittleLovin (user info) at 2005-01-13 01:12:07 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Agreed
Submitted by Sassmasterr (user info) at 2005-01-06 10:31:51 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2005-01-06 08:54:39 (#)
Ranking: 2
Rap is shitty, but women like it, so you just have to put up with it.
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2005-01-06 08:54:39 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
Rap is shitty, but women like it, so you just have to put up with it.
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2005-01-06 05:32:07 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
I almost exclusively listen to hip-hop.
I am as far from a wigger as it is possible to imagine.
Try listening to Common, Nas, Speech et al.
Submitted by professorfuckface (user info) at 2005-01-06 05:30:33 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
Yeah, rap in general is a flaming piece of shit. There is a shitload of fake music out there, but the rap genre is probably 95% bullshit. Eminem is just Vanilla Ice's sequel. Beastie Boys are fucking old and should have quit a long time ago, but their 80's stuff at the least is good for a laugh, at least they don't make up stories about the hard-core lives they supposedly live. That's it for whitey rap, and blacks aren't any better at it for all the hype. Jay-Z ft. Linkin Park? What the fuck is that lame shit. Some big lipped piece of shit with a bulbous and equally shitty girlfriend teams up with some whiny faggot and an Asian with some weird square keyboard that looks like a Fred Flinstone Fone. OMG ITS OLDSKOOL RAP MEETS NU-ROCK IN A TOUR DE FORCE. Its funny how all the rappers who actually lived 'hard-core' lives instead of just lying about everything all died from gunshot wounds. And the fucking sampling. 20 years ago some stupid piece of shit decided it would be a good idea to take a spoken word sample from a half century old song or movie and play it over a beat, over and over and over. It's been done, it is a very clever contrast OLD Vs. NEW, but for fuck's sake, it's been done.
Anyway, check out my new rap album in stores Tuesday, I'm a white rapper from the streets who had to earn his respect in the 'hood. Also be sure to check out my controversial single that's gonna be on MTV and a hundred other mainstream music video stations, called "It's a hardknock I have AIDS", which samples both spoken word bytes from the hit broadway musical 'Annie' and the "I have AIDS" shtick from Philadelphia starring Tom Hanks.
Submitted by VoRn (user info) at 2005-01-06 05:08:51 EST (#)
Ranking: 1
I wrote something like this the other day: http://www.geocities.com/shiz_inferno/rap_is_crap.htm
I thought mine was better. Here's a 1 because I agree with you.
Submitted by StonedSilly (user info) at 2005-01-06 00:41:51 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
I trust you've got Kazaa or some program like it?
Search for "instrumental nas" or "instrumental jay-z" or "instrumental rap."
I've got about 1gb of instrumentals alone.
Submitted by Lunch_Pail (user info) at 2005-01-06 00:11:05 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
I give you plus 2 because its your opinion. I will tell you your opinion is stupid and hypocritical. First off the rap you hear on MTV and the radio is garbage commercial rap. Secondly there are rap instrumentals and they are very good. Making any music is hard. Rock music also talks about killing people all the time. My friend listens to alot of that heavy rock shit and its just screaming in a mike about killing people. I hate (most not all) rock music the same as you hate rap. There are good rap artists though- sorry.
Submitted by Da_Ill_Rhymz (user info) at 2005-01-06 00:05:32 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
Listen here Jabroni
You pushin cheese like macaroni
You just hate rap
Cuz you got the clap
When you took it from the homies
I suggest you blow me
Eat shit you fuckin phony
And get that forty dollars
From your mom because she owes me
Submitted by Lechuga (user info) at 2005-01-06 00:04:50 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
I assume you're talking about mainstream gangsta rap. And the whole thing about the beats is true. You have to have something backing the vocals, not something some idiot drummed up on his desk.
Submitted by bush_for_god (user info) at 2005-01-06 00:02:39 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
give me an instrumental rap song please
Submitted by StonedSilly (user info) at 2005-01-05 23:47:21 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
You're a fucking idiot. Idiots are not welcome here.
First and foremost, there ARE instrumental rap songs. There are many.
Second, not all rap songs talk about 'killing cops while high, while getting laid, in the hood.' Many of the TRUE rappers, like Nas, rap about REAL LIFE things that they have been through. They make their music to inspire young kids to do something other than carry around guns and kill people. As I said, there are many songs that DO talk about that bullshit, but there are just as many that don't.
Sound doesn't have to be complex to be entertaining. Trust me, I listen to everything.
Last, get the fuck off of Bart's site.
Submitted by bush_for_god (user info) at 2005-01-05 23:15:50 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
Submitted by Shroom (user info) at 2005-01-05 21:55:41 (#)
Ranking: 1
"Take a classic song, such as Black Sabbath's Crazy Train, or Aerosmith's Dream on, or, if you're old school, Aerosmith's Walk This Way"
1) Crazy Train is NOT done by Black Sabbath, it was done by Ozzy Osbourne, AFTER he left Black Sabbath. Crazy Train was on Ozzy's first solo album, Blizzard of Ozz, which came out in 1980 (two years after Ozzy left Sabbath in 1978).
2) Black Sabbath is more "old school" that Aerosmith. Sabbath came about in 1962 as opposed to Aerosmith's debut in 1973. Sabbath is 11 years older. Sabbath also revolutionalized music be creating the heavy metal genre as we know it today. Black Sabbath are god's.
3) Aerosmith sucks.
For those three things, you should recieve a -2. But you bash rap, so I'll give you atleast 1.
Btw, for future reference... next time you post, make sure you know what you're talking about and have your facts straight.
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1) sorry, my bad, you could probably tell since i am not into metallica that i am not into music like theirs....Black Sabbath.
2) i was talking about old school rap, when aerosmith did some stupid rap rendition with some bitch from nwa or something
3) aerosmith is OK, look at how they sold out some of their songs...stupid band.
btw, i screwed up one one fact, and it was only somewhat wrong, so stfu. i don't listen to ozzy, but i knew he sang crazy train, and i knew that he was in black sabbath. so stfu again.
Submitted by Chroniclysm (user info) at 2005-01-05 22:58:47 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
You get a -2, not because I'm some hardcore rap fan, but because this is stupid.
Submitted by MadScientist (user info) at 2005-01-05 22:55:25 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
I appreciate the fact that you set some time aside to show the world how much of a closed-minded, ignorant, useless waste of space that you are, but you should know that it is okay to have an unexpressed thought- in your case, I would recommend it. The activity in your brain is comparable to that of a 9-Volt battery.
The only reason that you are alive is because of the traffic jam that your parents encountered on the way to the abortion clinic. I worship the ground that awaits your corpse.
Submitted by downerSTAIN (user info) at 2005-01-05 22:34:57 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
One last thing beofre I leave:
Maybe if you turned off MTV and, god forbid, found some music outside of the mainstream, you'd have a better appreciation for it.
Cunt.
Submitted by dedre (user info) at 2005-01-05 22:17:56 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
+2, because in general I agree with you.
There is some rap I like to laugh at though.
Black people are typically humorous to watch and/or listen to anyways.
Submitted by downerSTAIN (user info) at 2005-01-05 22:11:29 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
Oh man, I didn't even get to the part where you said Black Sabbath did Crazy Train. Jesus, grow some hair on your balls and read up on a little basic rock history before you even ATTEMPT to have an opinion.
Seriously man, you suck. I know the truth hurts, but it's better you learn now so you have a chance to rectify that.
...heh. Rectify.
Submitted by downerSTAIN (user info) at 2005-01-05 22:08:58 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
Submitted by vettesrule88 (user info) at 2005-01-05 22:03:24 (#)
Ranking: 2
you cant classify metallica into hard shit
metallica is so diverse it doesnt even fit anywhere in one point
(nothing else matters master of puppets)
also, anyone can argue against any type of music, most don't have reasons, you did so +2 for principle
ps: i despise any music without singing... from screaming rock shit to rap, its gotta have a singer to be good
best combination = heavy music with aesome female singer (lacuna coil, evanessence)
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First, Metallica is about as diverse as a country club in the Hamptons. I mean, I love Metallica (for they're music, they seem to be huge dicks when not thrashing), but they're metal. That's it.
Second, you think Evanescence is a good band, so you're opinion on music matters about as much as my opinion on brain surgery.
Submitted by MyNameIsTim (user info) at 2005-01-05 22:07:24 EST (#)
Ranking: -1
you're listening to the wrong rap.
i agree with what you're saying, as to why the things that you say suck suck, but dont generalize.
Submitted by downerSTAIN (user info) at 2005-01-05 22:04:05 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
You know, I used to think the exact same thing.
Then I went through puberty.
Submitted by vettesrule88 (user info) at 2005-01-05 22:03:24 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
you cant classify metallica into hard shit
metallica is so diverse it doesnt even fit anywhere in one point
(nothing else matters master of puppets)
also, anyone can argue against any type of music, most don't have reasons, you did so +2 for principle
ps: i despise any music without singing... from screaming rock shit to rap, its gotta have a singer to be good
best combination = heavy music with aesome female singer (lacuna coil, evanessence)
Submitted by Divinity (user info) at 2005-01-05 22:01:34 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
"Stupid, unoriginal, repetitive blather"
And your trite rant is...what? What's that? Huh? Stupid, unoriginal, repetitive bullshit?
Oh...Damn.
I'll bust a cap in yo' ass, nigga!
Submitted by Shroom (user info) at 2005-01-05 21:55:41 EST (#)
Ranking: 1
"Take a classic song, such as Black Sabbath's Crazy Train, or Aerosmith's Dream on, or, if you're old school, Aerosmith's Walk This Way"
1) Crazy Train is NOT done by Black Sabbath, it was done by Ozzy Osbourne, AFTER he left Black Sabbath. Crazy Train was on Ozzy's first solo album, Blizzard of Ozz, which came out in 1980 (two years after Ozzy left Sabbath in 1978).
2) Black Sabbath is more "old school" that Aerosmith. Sabbath came about in 1962 as opposed to Aerosmith's debut in 1973. Sabbath is 11 years older. Sabbath also revolutionalized music be creating the heavy metal genre as we know it today. Black Sabbath are god's.
3) Aerosmith sucks.
For those three things, you should recieve a -2. But you bash rap, so I'll give you atleast 1.
Btw, for future reference... next time you post, make sure you know what you're talking about and have your facts straight.
Submitted by kai070169 (user info) at 2005-01-05 21:54:55 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
5 best rap groups EVER:
1)Public Enemy
2)BDP
3)NWA
4)Cold Crush
5)Melle Melle & Furious 5
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2005-01-05 21:49:24 EST (#)
Ranking: 1
I agree.
Rap is da debil!
Submitted by FatTony (user info) at 2005-01-05 21:43:35 EST (#)
Ranking: -2
I suppose death metal is better?