Star Wars, Lord of the Rings and The Matrix are all the same movie (1061 hits)
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Submitted by jayjonze <crazfool003.at.hotmail.com> (View user info) at 2005-02-19 19:48:14 EST
Lately, all I have been able to watch are my DVD's of Lord of the Rings, Star Wars (the DVD box set), and The Matrix trilogies. After watching each a couple of hundred times each, I have noticed that they are all pretty much the same movie.
All three revolve around a main good versus evil motif. Many movies generally do. But these are so similar that it is ridiculous. They are all based on a seemingly invincible enemy that has or is trying to enslave or conquer the free people or races.
The rebellions are led by a man who is destined to be the one to free or defend the people (Arragorn or Frodo, Luke Skywalker, Neo)
The three main characters have a large group of people fighting with them but they all have a small group who comprise the supporting characters: Star Wars: Luke, Han Solo, Chewbacca, Princess Lea, C3PO , R2 D2, Lando Carlissian. Lord of the Rings: Arragorn, Legolas, Gimley, Frodo, Sam, Gandalf, Merry, Pepin. The Matrix : Neo, Morpheous, Trinity, and Miscellaneous Black guys playing the operators.
The character who is destined to save the world: Luke, Neo, Frodo
The character who sets the main character on his path: Obi Wan, The Oracle, Gandalf
The male who fights along side of the main character: Legolas, Han Solo, Morpheous (Morpheous and Trinity take on a few roles in the Matrix)
The character who also fights along with the main character but is not as good looking and is therefore less important: Chewbacca, Gimley, Miscellaneous Operators
The chick who can fight and ends up either the one or his buddy: Princess Lea, Trinity, Arwen
The Traitor: Lando, Saroman, Cypher
The Bad Guy: Saroman, Darth Vader, The Architect
The REALLY Bad guy: Saron, The Emperor, Smith (depends on your opinion)
The unending group of evil drones who work for the bad guys: Orcs, Storm Troopers, Sentinels or Agents
The bad guy that is bad but not as bad as the really bad guys and is only working with the bad guys for his own benefit: Worm tongue, Jabba the Hut, The Frenchman
The really cool group that comes in the latter stages of the trilogy to help out: Riders of Rohan, Ewoks (I know ewoks aren't really cool but the other two are awesome), the Marines of Zion
The main characters also have abilities that are better than the rest of the characters:
Frodo's Ability to resist the ring, Luke's power to use the force better than anyone, Neo's talent
All of the main characters either die (Neo), or almost die (Luke, and Frodo)
The Bad guys always live in a big bad place where the normal good guys wouldn't last a minute and the main character must go in order to finish his quest: The Death Star, Moordor, The Machine city
All have characters that speak a useless language that means nothing: Alien talk, Elvish language, French
None of the characters in any of the movies seem to bathe at any point
All of these movies have cult followings of people who like to sit in the snow for a month so they can see the movies first.
All of the movies have people who dress up like people in the movies
All of the movies have people who get married in theme weddings and name their kids after characters (I know this is coming with the Matrix)
All of the movies take place either a long time ago (LOTR, Star Wars) or really far into the future (the Matrix)
Well I have decided to stop because I don't want this to get boring by talking about miniscule details, but the next time you watch any of these movies, think about it and I am sure that you will find some of your own.
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Submitted by InkyFingers (user info) at 2005-02-21 11:48:44 EST (#)
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I don't think you are pointing out anything significant here.
Submitted by jayjonze (user info) at 2005-02-20 17:41:48 EST (#)
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Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2005-02-20 16:51:22 (#)
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wow. quite brilliant.
or wait, is this just saying that the three movies are based on the hero/quest structure?
oh, it is? so anybody that has taken a literature course in their life would know this?
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Fucking Fag, The post is about the similarities between the characters,timelines, and plots. Supeman, Patton, and Die Hard has a hero/Quest structure, this is about the similarities between the three specific movies. Dick
Submitted by wardy (user info) at 2005-02-20 16:51:22 EST (#)
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wow. quite brilliant.
or wait, is this just saying that the three movies are based on the hero/quest structure?
oh, it is? so anybody that has taken a literature course in their life would know this?
huh.
Submitted by jayjonze (user info) at 2005-02-20 09:28:05 EST (#)
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Submitted by PWNstar (user info) at 2005-02-20 02:02:14 (#)
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"Frodo's Ability to resist the ring"
My ass, did you SEE the end of the movie or any scene involving Frodo and the ring? the only one with the power to resist it was Aragorn. and he was set above the rest due to his Numenorian bloodline.
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Yeah, I see where you are coming from, I don't think that arragorn had the ability either though, Frodo had the best shot though. If you'll remember it was Arragorn's ancestor (can't remember his name right now) that could have destroyed it. Men could not resist the ring. Frodo did fuck up in the end though....
Submitted by Obi-wan (user info) at 2005-02-20 04:51:45 EST (#)
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Jabba the Hutt never worked for the empire he did his own thing as the Hutts were just a fat mafia syndicate.
Submitted by Ivy (user info) at 2005-02-20 04:37:29 EST (#)
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Submitted by jayjonze (user info) at 2005-02-19 23:04:56 (#)
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Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2005-02-19 22:55:07 (#)
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My one year old second-cousin is called Trinity.
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Christ, chinese people name their kids by throwing pots and pans on the floor "ping" "pang"
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This post was pretty interesting. Yeah, it is the heroic quest in fiction, that's why they're all similar, they all follow the same formula. My 4 year old cousin's name is also Trinity. And the 'ping' 'pang' comment made me laugh.
Submitted by PWNstar (user info) at 2005-02-20 02:02:14 EST (#)
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"Frodo's Ability to resist the ring"
My ass, did you SEE the end of the movie or any scene involving Frodo and the ring? the only one with the power to resist it was Aragorn. and he was set above the rest due to his Numenorian bloodline.
solid post besides that one slip
Submitted by Creepy_guy (user info) at 2005-02-20 00:06:04 EST (#)
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Submitted by cwl989 (user info) at 2005-02-19 23:09:32 (#)
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"All have characters that speak a useless language that means nothing: Alien talk, Elvish language, French."
That got you a +2.
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Agreed.
Submitted by jayjonze (user info) at 2005-02-19 23:57:48 EST (#)
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Submitted by matrix2681 (user info) at 2005-02-19 23:53:45 (#)
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Lando is a traitor? He sold out the good guys?!? BOOOOOOH! I did not know this and you just ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOined the whole thing for me.
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Watch the Empire Strikes Back and you'll get it.....
Submitted by matrix2681 (user info) at 2005-02-19 23:53:45 EST (#)
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Lando is a traitor? He sold out the good guys?!? BOOOOOOH! I did not know this and you just ROOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOined the whole thing for me.
Submitted by jayjonze (user info) at 2005-02-19 23:48:05 EST (#)
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Submitted by Dannie (user info) at 2005-02-19 23:22:14 (#)
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I can't fault your reasoning.
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Fucking Noob, write something longer than a sentence and I may listen to your opinion. Until then, shut--the fuck--up
Submitted by Dannie (user info) at 2005-02-19 23:22:14 EST (#)
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I can't fault your reasoning.
Submitted by cwl989 (user info) at 2005-02-19 23:09:32 EST (#)
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"All have characters that speak a useless language that means nothing: Alien talk, Elvish language, French."
That got you a +2.
Submitted by jayjonze (user info) at 2005-02-19 23:04:56 EST (#)
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Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2005-02-19 22:55:07 (#)
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My one year old second-cousin is called Trinity.
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I think that Trinity may be a real name. My mom had a kid in her class named shithead pronounced shy-thead. Christ, chinese people name their kids by throwing pots and pans on the floor "ping" "pang"
Submitted by Jarvis (user info) at 2005-02-19 22:58:52 EST (#)
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None of the characters in any of the movies seem to bathe at any point
Kick ass!
Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2005-02-19 22:55:07 EST (#)
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My one year old second-cousin is called Trinity.
Submitted by Shagabah_Jones (user info) at 2005-02-19 22:54:57 EST (#)
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yeah Ewoks are like little talking teddy bears, like the one on my shoulder... I gotta stop taking acid...
(Random knowlege: througtout the entire star wars triolgy they never said the word "Ewok")
Submitted by jayjonze (user info) at 2005-02-19 22:49:26 EST (#)
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Submitted by FuckTheArmy (user info) at 2005-02-19 22:30:44 (#)
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Ewoks rock! What are you on about?
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Ewoks aren't bad but when you compare them to the Riders of Rohan and the Zion marines in the big suits with the guns on the side they would get their asses kicked. Those little fuckers wouldn't know what hit them. What are they gonna do? Throw rocks at them and hit them with sticks?
Submitted by Freakmagnet (user info) at 2005-02-19 22:34:04 EST (#)
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Submitted by jayjonze (user info) at 2005-02-19 20:33:51 (#)
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archtype...I learned a new word. Thank You uber
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This article has changed my life.
Submitted by FuckTheArmy (user info) at 2005-02-19 22:30:44 EST (#)
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Ewoks rock! What are you on about?
Submitted by Spooner (user info) at 2005-02-19 21:14:21 EST (#)
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I can buy it.
Submitted by DJMattB241 (user info) at 2005-02-19 21:03:26 EST (#)
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i'm naming my first boy Neo.
Submitted by Shagabah_Jones (user info) at 2005-02-19 20:43:00 EST (#)
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Awesome. this is a great post.
Submitted by Unabonger (user info) at 2005-02-19 20:38:20 EST (#)
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right on
Submitted by jayjonze (user info) at 2005-02-19 20:33:51 EST (#)
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archtype...I learned a new word. Thank You uber
Submitted by Envenom (user info) at 2005-02-19 20:26:05 EST (#)
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The similarities between the Matrix and Star Wars have occurred to me before (and the Matrix and the 13th Floor, Dark City, etc) and I guess I can see Lord of the Rings but not quite as much.
Submitted by lojope (user info) at 2005-02-19 20:22:52 EST (#)
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stevie beat me to it...
Submitted by lojope (user info) at 2005-02-19 20:22:30 EST (#)
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Ah, yes, the archtypes of literature, namely "the Quest" in this case. There are about a billion stories that revolve around a Quest structure. What makes each one interesting in it's own right is not the general outline of the plot, but the details: the idiosyncrasies of the characters, the new and exciting ways each author approached the idea, different settings, different times, different problems, different solutions.... etc etc.
Submitted by stevie_says (user info) at 2005-02-19 20:00:25 EST (#)
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It's called an archetype. +2 for that French comment.
Notice how they were all basically loners before they started out on their quests, too? Some fuckin' secret is revealed about their true identity and they turn out to be so fucking important rather than mindless fucking losers.
Gimli was such a fuck. Fuck that stupid guy.
Submitted by TheMidnight12AM (user info) at 2005-02-19 19:52:44 EST (#)
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I was going to give you a +1 for reflecting a similar opinion of mine, but then I read this:
"The bad guy that is bad but not as bad as the really bad guys and is only working with the bad guys for his own benefit"
WTF mate?
Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2005-02-19 19:50:06 EST (#)
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a lot of people say these films are based on biblical and classical mythology... i'm too lazy to dig out the references. i enjoyed your post.