Property laws are dodgy (555 hits)
Category: PoliticsRating: 0.57 on 10 reviews (Rate this item) (V)
Submitted by FuckTheArmy (View user info) at 2005-02-26 10:12:50 EST
Last night, going to a club, a bouncer told me, "not with those shorts".
Having been there before, and rarely having my attire questioned in that sense, and never at that venue, my first impression and action was a very expected, "WHAT?!"
The bouncer then did his best to try and pick a fight with me, and suggested that I was being argumentative for "ignoring him" (when I was clearly listening to him by not barging in) and for not being submissive to him, simply because he was bigger than me. In fact, the only reason I didn't punch him in that fat gut of his was because I didn't feel like being argumentative.
A few moments later, I called my friends to tell them I wasn't going to be there, and walked away, my evening ruined by a petty man with a narrow minded view of what it means to be part of a subculture and a licence to exclude people just because he doesn't like them.
I don't think this would actually do the club owners any benefit, although they think it prevents fights. It doesn't, because people who fight will fight anyway, be it the people inside, or the bouncers themselves - in fact, in the case of the bouncers, if they're verbose, as most are, people tend to feel more inclined to be angered towards them, meaning more fights with the angry drunks that affect their bouncers (and not just the patronage).
Then again, possession is nine-tenths of the law. In that sense, whoever owns stuff gets any profit from it. This means they do their darnedest to create property laws that let bouncers and cops be little neo nazis and to quash any types of freedom that aren't in line with their profit-based world view.
Fundamentally, this is just stupid from a long-term cost/benefit analysis.
I think that's the club's loss. I saved $8 entry.
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Submitted by Feijuada (user info) at 2005-04-13 19:19:49 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
No Comment
Submitted by FuckTheArmy (user info) at 2005-02-27 04:57:27 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
Actually, considering it's a punkish club and I was sober, the clothing was really quite surprising as an exclusion. Yes, serious about that and all. Not really very Urkel on me, though, since I'm 5'10" and 85kg/190lb. Not with combat boots and leather anyway.
The bouncer really did just have something up his arse. Lucky for him, I'm not violent unless provoked, because I regularly beat up people that much bigger than me on the sporting field.
Submitted by kai070169 (user info) at 2005-02-26 19:40:13 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
As an ex doorman with 12+ years bouncing drunk shorts-wearing shitheads out the door, I can honestly say that there is no greater satisfaction to be found than kicking a doorman's ass. I hate them too.
I wish a doorman would hit me. I'd sue the bar for a million bucks. Or more.
Getting revenge on doormen is easy. I should make a post about that....
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2005-02-26 13:04:21 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
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Submitted by Tigre (user info) at 2005-02-26 11:12:13 EST (#)
Ranking: -1
Urkel?
Submitted by FelizJbirth (user info) at 2005-02-26 10:55:00 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
In all seriousness, any club that refuses you entry because of clothing (assuming you are dressed at all reasonably) is probably not a club worth going to, in my opinion. Sounds like it's full of pretentious assholes, unless the bouncer just had something up his ass.
Submitted by FelizJbirth (user info) at 2005-02-26 10:53:19 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
C'mon, anyone who is even remotely cool wears a hat and suspenders to a club. Forget your Fat Tonys, your Frank TJ Mackeys, just get yourself some suspenders and a "Caterpillar" hat and take your pick of the ladies.
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2005-02-26 10:48:44 EST (#)
Ranking: 2
+1 because you were treated like shit. But if you really were dressed with the cloth cap and suspenders and can't figure out why you couldn't get in, then you're a dumbass. But I think you were joking. So another +1. But if I find out that you were serious, I WILL retract this and give a -2...
Submitted by FuckTheArmy (user info) at 2005-02-26 10:21:08 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
Honestly, it was nothing out of the ordinary. Ordinary forest camouflage.
But... I was wearing combat boots, a black leather jacket, cloth cap, and red suspenders!
This is acceptable stuff at that club, I swear.
Submitted by Circe (user info) at 2005-02-26 10:16:45 EST (#)
Ranking: 0
I wanna know what the shorts looked like.