The Mars Volta. Um, What the Fuck? (2328 hits)
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Submitted by 1Point21Gigawatts (View user info) at 2005-03-21 12:05:14 EST
So the song "The Widow" grew on me. I heard it premiere on K-Rock, and Julie Slater said something about everyone who's anyone in LA loves the Mars Volta. I went to LA and talked to some people and no one even really knew who the hell they were. But that damn song, "The Widow", just kept getting better every time I heard it.
A few days ago, I heard a song called "L' Via" by them. Earlier in the day, I actually got a chance to view the video for "The Widow" and I was shocked to find out the singer of this song was a man (kinda like many people's first impression of Rush). So this new track, "L' Via" is sung primarily in Spanish, and it's pretty rocking with this strange Salsa-Tango kinda breakdown in the middle. I was intrigued, and I turned the radio way the hell up.
So the icing on the cake comes here. I read in Rolling Stone that The Mars Volta's latest album, "Francis the Mute" is comparable to Led Zeppelin IV. Yeah. I said the same thing, "what the fuck?" They talked about the album being a seventy eight minute long epic with various Spanish and rock infused riffs and baffling lyrics. I got excited - I'd only heard two tracks off the album and they were pretty damn good. So I went straight to Best Buy and picked up a copy for $10.86. I tore the package open in the parking lot and waited to be dazzled.
The first track started kicking ass immediately, but it was a little hard to follow and it started getting kind of long. After about 8 minutes or so I was bored with it and I skipped to track 2. Yes! The Widow! The song I mainly bought the album for! I listened all the way through, a little disappointed that the major content of the song was over after the 3 minute mark, and the remaining 2.5 minutes was, well, just weird keyboard and guitar noise.
Track three was "L' Via". I rocked out. I know some Spanish, so I translated some of the lyrics, and it's about a women who gets married, then something about killing her, and blood (yes, sangre! I know that one!).
So my first impression is that the album isn't so bad. But then I continue on from there. The rest of the album is pretty much noise. In fact, there are two entire 4-minute tracks that are just strange sounds, like rubbing the fret-board of a guitar with a washcloth, or throwing rocks at a China Symbol. There's a couple of lyrics sung in there at parts, but I found myself hitting the seek button until I heard something that resembled real music. When I did finally hear actual real music, it all sounded the same.
I'm sure these guys have shit loads of talent, but if you like The Mars Volta's radio shit I suggest downloading those two tracks and saving your money on the CD. I've only been able to get through the CD about three times since I bought it, and I'm hoping that I can weed out the good shit from the noise. But, if you read an article about it being the next Led Zeppelin IV and that it's a 78 minute epic album, be advised that Rolling Stone is retarded. It's probably a 39 minute music, 39 minute noise combination. But that "L' Via" song really does kick ass. Maybe I just don't get it. Does anyone else have that album and know something I don't?
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Submitted by corn_nugget (user info) at 2005-03-25 02:45:01 EST (#)
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Dude, I didn't say Jack Johnson was anything LIKE Mars Volta... I'm just saying that he's awesome.
Which he is.
Submitted by 1Point21Gigawatts (user info) at 2005-03-22 11:54:49 EST (#)
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And by the way, I'm going to buy Deloused at the Comatorium or whatever it's called, based on everyone's vehement suggestions. Francis The Mute is growing on my by the minute, even though I do have to skip the boring parts. I may start liking this band a lot more.
Has anyone ever seen them live?
Submitted by 1Point21Gigawatts (user info) at 2005-03-22 11:50:31 EST (#)
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Submitted by rock_music (user info) at 2005-03-21 18:32:19 (#)
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-1 for misspelling KROQ
-1 for listening to KROQ
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Hmm, genius, I wonder why the website is called http://www.krockradio.com?
Oh yeah, perhaps because I was talking about WXRQ K-Rock in New York and you're a fucking moron. Did you not know how many different forms of the word "k-Rock" there are? What the fuck are you? Retarded?
Submitted by Death_Metal_Dude (user info) at 2005-03-22 01:42:39 EST (#)
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Submitted by corn_nugget (user info) at 2005-03-21 22:00:15 (#)
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Seriously, how is Opeth or pantara like Mars Volta?
Submitted by bicklefragile (user info) at 2005-03-21 21:53:59 (#)
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did someone just suggest Opeth if you like Mars Volta? jesus Christ.
Well the Pantera suggestion is ridiculous, but Opeth is not that outlandish. Opeth is progressive death metal, while The Mars Volta is progressive modern rock. Many Opeth fans are prog-rock fans (myself included), and many prog-rock fans have made the crossover to Opeth.
I'm a member of Opeth's official forum, and there are plenty of Mars Volta fans there.
Submitted by jwlmar10 (user info) at 2005-03-22 00:08:17 EST (#)
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"Submitted by corn_nugget (user info) at 2005-03-21 21:41:14 (#)
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I agree with most of this... I really like The Widow... and I listened to their CD at work today, and I was like "Ummm? Noise... turn off now."
Then I noticed that they are considered "Noise Rock" or some shit like that.
I hate noise.
You should check out Jack Johnson... he is my all time (new) favorite. "
You have to be kidding, right?
In a discussion of the Mars Volta, you bring up Jack Johnson? That guy sucks hairy monkey balls. He needs to remove the estrogen IV from his vein and play some real fucking music.
Submitted by jwlmar10 (user info) at 2005-03-22 00:05:19 EST (#)
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I like Francis the Mute overall, but I agree with you on the noise. I listened to it all the way through when I first got it and it all worked, but now when I listen I just fast-forward that stuff. I think this is a good album but it was definitely overhyped.
If you really want to see what The Mars Volta can do, go buy Deloused in the Comatorium. I listen to that cd about once a week and it never gets old. All of the songs play into one another like old Pink Floyd albums and there is much less ambient-type noise. I cannot recommend this album enough. It will change the way you listen to music. The whole album is a concept album about their friend that entered a coma from shooting up rat poison only to kill himself when he came out of the coma. I read that the band wrote it as they thought music would sound on a different planet or something like that. The lyrics are totally bizarre and often don't make sense, but it doesn't matter because they sound great. This album is just totally progressive, hard-driving, space-rock that will get into your head like a drug and won't let go. I am dead serious about all of this. GO BUY THIS ALBUM.
That being said, you should also check out At-The-Drive-In, they pretty much rock too.
Submitted by corn_nugget (user info) at 2005-03-21 22:00:15 EST (#)
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Seriously, how is Opeth or pantara like Mars Volta?
Submitted by bicklefragile (user info) at 2005-03-21 21:53:59 EST (#)
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did someone just suggest Opeth if you like Mars Volta? jesus Christ.
Submitted by getyourvoltronon (user info) at 2005-03-21 21:51:59 EST (#)
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Hey, if you liked that, maybe you should give Opeth or Pantera a try.
Submitted by corn_nugget (user info) at 2005-03-21 21:41:14 EST (#)
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I agree with most of this... I really like The Widow... and I listened to their CD at work today, and I was like "Ummm? Noise... turn off now."
Then I noticed that they are considered "Noise Rock" or some shit like that.
I hate noise.
You should check out Jack Johnson... he is my all time (new) favorite.
Submitted by Falco (user info) at 2005-03-21 21:20:24 EST (#)
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The Mars volta are fucking shit, they should go back to puerto my assrico.
Submitted by tlozoot (user info) at 2005-03-21 21:01:31 EST (#)
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I have no idea why you or anyone might read RS for music reviews. I subscribe because (as a liberal) I love reading their "national affairs" or however they disguise their liberal propaganda. It makes me feel much better about myself. Other than that, the magazine is mostly celebrity and pop music trash. Anyway...
Mars Volta is OK, I guess. They're better than the other ATDI offshoot, Sparta, which pretty much sucks. You should definitely pick up ATDI's Relationship of Command if you're into Mars Volta's harder and actually musical stuff. I only have the first Mars Volta album but I agree there's too much noise and "experiment" and not enough real music. ATDI has very little of that crap.
Submitted by tinactin (user info) at 2005-03-21 19:54:24 EST (#)
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You really should check out De-loused. It's a much more accessible album, and it sounds like you enjoy their sound in general. Im not a big fan of Frances either.
Submitted by rock_music (user info) at 2005-03-21 18:32:19 EST (#)
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-1 for misspelling KROQ
-1 for listening to KROQ
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2005-03-21 17:39:59 EST (#)
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Maybe this will help: http://www.ubersite.com/m/62284
Submitted by downerSTAIN (user info) at 2005-03-21 16:34:44 EST (#)
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Also, "L'Via L'Viaquez" definitely fucking rocks. Probably my favorite track on the cd.
You should definitely check out their first album, 'De-Loused in the Comatorium'. Way more music. In my opinion, it's a fucking masterpiece.
And if you're in to indie stuff, definitely check out At the Drive-In.
Submitted by downerSTAIN (user info) at 2005-03-21 15:39:21 EST (#)
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While I do agree that Frances is nowhere as good as Led Zeppelin IV, you can hardly compare the two. Led Zeppelin was a british band in the 60s-70s. The Mars Volta is really unclassifiable (I know a lot of bands say that, but I truly don't know what the fuck these guys can be called. Prog-rock is the closest I can come) and it's 2000. There's completely different technology, and TMV definitely utilizes it.
Like ETS said, it depends on why you listen to music. Some people revel in the noise and chaos, some people get a headache from it.
Submitted by munkeypants (user info) at 2005-03-21 15:13:05 EST (#)
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I will have to check them out.
Submitted by Death_Metal_Dude (user info) at 2005-03-21 14:01:22 EST (#)
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Tool sucks, The Mars Volta is pretty good, Porcupine Tree is great, and Anekdoten is great.
Anyone who enjoys the latter two should check out Anglagard, Landberk, Paatos, and Wobbler.
Submitted by ess-arr (user info) at 2005-03-21 13:59:43 EST (#)
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Submitted by 1Point21Gigawatts (user info) at 2005-03-21 13:58:17 EST (#)
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I like Franz Ferdinand on the radio, but I haven't purchased the CD - not sure I want to.
Modest Mouse was so-so, all of the songs take a few listens to get into them.
A band called Chronic Future put out a CD last year that really kicks ass too.
The Jet CD is good, but you have to be in the mood for it.
There hasn't been a good (mainstream) hip-hop album put out in five years, but guys like Atmosphere, Sage Francis, Eyedea, Brother Ali, they're all hot emcees (and white too). And Buck 65.
Emo is not as bad as people make it out to be. Some songs by The Used and Yellowcard are fun to listen to. If you really want GOOD music that can be classified as "emo" you have to go back to Long Island in 1994-7 and listen to bands like Silent Majority, Tripface, Cleanser and MindoverMatter.
The Green Day album is overrated but not a disaster.
U2 fucking sucks.
Coheed and Cambria totally fucking kick ass, as does their latest album.
Metallica stopped being good after the black album.
"Red Barcetta" is one of the best songs ever written, right along with "YYZ".
The greatest rapper of all time is Biggie Smalls. The greatest rapper right now is Slug.
Eminem is going downhill, but I liked his shit when he first started.
I can't stand people who obsess over Greatful Dead, Phish, Rusted Root, or Guster.
I just felt like giving some opinions...
Submitted by someone (user info) at 2005-03-21 13:56:03 EST (#)
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I'll keep this in mind, thanks for the review. However, comparing them to Led Zepplin means shit to me, because I personally hate them. (I have a feeling I'll get shit for that.)
Submitted by mikethescottish (user info) at 2005-03-21 13:46:24 EST (#)
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Submitted by DJMattB241 (user info) at 2005-03-21 13:35:59 (#)
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oh and this reminds me.
DONT buy the Franz Ferdinand CD.
waste. :(
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Noooooo. Franz are near Proclaimers-like awesomeness.
Submitted by Nicole3 (user info) at 2005-03-21 13:39:33 EST (#)
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Good to know. I was thinking about getting it.
Submitted by DJMattB241 (user info) at 2005-03-21 13:35:59 EST (#)
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oh and this reminds me.
DONT buy the Franz Ferdinand CD.
waste. :(
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2005-03-21 13:34:54 EST (#)
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Pick up the latest by "The F Ups"...You can't go wrong, from start to finish.
Just watch your speed when you're driving to it.
Submitted by 1Point21Gigawatts (user info) at 2005-03-21 13:33:38 EST (#)
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Submitted by 1Point21Gigawatts (user info) at 2005-03-21 13:32:17 EST (#)
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Some good points on the comments here.
As far as Tool and Aenima go, I really liked that album when it came out, and I still listen to it every so often. I do think that Undertow and the Opiate EP were both better, but the noisey tracks and strange experimentation didn't seem to overtake the album like it does on Francis the Mute.
To the person who said I was stupid for reading Rolling Stone, well, I'm sorry, but seriously what the fuck is wrong with reading Rolling Stone? Jesus, you people are so fucking opinionated. It's a magazine about music. Christ, get over yourself. Sorry I don't scourge the earth for the latest and greatest in underground talent. Some people's lives are too busy for that.
And Jesus, to the SERIOUS music lover, mp3's JUST DON'T CUT IT. The quality is terrible and it's an unreliable source for music. Sure, if I was broke I'd steal everything off the internet and not worry about the quality. But fortunately for me, $10 on a CD is nothing.
The RS article also mentioned At The Drive-In, but so far I'm not sure what to make of that reviewer's opinion. I'm willing to check out De-Lousing as well, but I'll go to Tower and listen first before I buy.
I just listened to Francis again on my way out to lunch, and I decided that track 4 (after the 5 minutes of noise in the begining) isn't so bad either. So far there's about 20 minutes of material I like on this near 80 minute LP.
Submitted by GodLovesALittleLovin (user info) at 2005-03-21 13:05:44 EST (#)
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Submitted by HappyHappyJoyJoi (user info) at 2005-03-21 12:52:13 (#)
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I agree with you about the comparison, but in general I think the Mars Volta doesn't even touch Porcupine Tree or Anekdoten in terms of songwriting and atmosphere.
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agreed. I still listen to Porcupine Tree on almost a daily basis, even though i think comparing The Mars Volta to Porcupine Tree is stretching it seeing as PT is European and The Mars Volta are mostly from the southwest. The Mars Volta can definitely over-indulge when it comes to the sounds and whatnot, but it you let it play anyways because that's the whole reason it's there.
i agree more with ETS than anything. it just depends on why you are listening.
mars volta is not a good cd to play on the way to a club
mars volta IS good for smoking three joints with your buds while sitting in a circle on the floor chanting "cermy rah", which means african tiger! african tiger!
Submitted by wookie (user info) at 2005-03-21 13:04:10 EST (#)
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If you haven't, you might want to check out their (Cedric Bixler and Omar Rodriquez) old band, At The Drive-In.
Submitted by gabrielpm (user info) at 2005-03-21 12:59:01 EST (#)
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Their previous offering, "Deloused in the Comatorium", kicks ass! Some of the stuff IS noise, but fancy, pretencious noise :-) This aparatus must be unearthed :-)
Submitted by WhatTheHell (user info) at 2005-03-21 12:57:35 EST (#)
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I like Lawrence Welk.
Submitted by cowstastegood (user info) at 2005-03-21 12:56:15 EST (#)
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I tried to get into the Mars Volta. I don't particularly care for all the bland vanilla rock that's out right now, and they were recommended by people who seemed to have pretty good taste in music. But they DID remind me of Rush too much, and I don't like Rush either. I can respect that both of those bands have musical ability, but it doesn't mean the sounds they produced are pleasing to my ear at all.
Submitted by Satansgotsyphillis (user info) at 2005-03-21 12:55:18 EST (#)
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i don't know what sucks worse....your taste in music or your writing abilities
Submitted by HappyHappyJoyJoi (user info) at 2005-03-21 12:52:13 EST (#)
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I agree with you about the comparison, but in general I think the Mars Volta doesn't even touch Porcupine Tree or Anekdoten in terms of songwriting and atmosphere.
Submitted by Sphagnum (user info) at 2005-03-21 12:41:32 EST (#)
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Submitted by WhatTheHell (user info) at 2005-03-21 12:27:29 (#)
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I have to admit, I have no idea what you are talking about.
Here's a plu 2 because I at least know it's NOT about cheese dogs, right ?
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There is nothing worse than buying a CD and getting jackshit but the 1 or 2 songs that you already heard. Especially when you read a good review about it in a magazine or on a webpage.
Mail it to Rolling stone with some Anthrax inside it.
Submitted by Sassmasterr (user info) at 2005-03-21 12:40:24 EST (#)
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poop...i had high hopes for this album...oh well
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2005-03-21 12:38:52 EST (#)
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Submitted by Jeanneee (user info) at 2005-03-21 12:19:28 (#)
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I'm convinced that indie rock bands purposely make their sound as inaccessible as possible as a joke on music fans.
Listen up, hipper-than-thou music people: Just because a record is arcane and difficult to listen to, DOES NOT MAKE IT A SEMINAL WORK OF GENIUS. Get off your high horses right now.
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I actually agree with this...
...but, then again, I think Mr. Bungle is the epitome of musical genius.
Go figure.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2005-03-21 12:31:09 EST (#)
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Death Jester: Aenima is fucking 78 minutes long, dude. You're talking about the incidental tracks that are put there to give the album continuity and to set a mood, which add up to about 10 minutes combined. If you listen to the album all the way through in the dark on acid, the way I'm convinced it was meant to be listened to, you'll see that these tracks serve a purpose. That whole album is about different shades - light and dark, loud and quiet, soft and hard. It's about the juxtapositioning of delicate vocals singing about tearing someone's throat out.
I don't give a fuck. It's the greatest rock album of all time to me. Blows Zeppelin away....
and I like Zeppelin.
I do find that music is pretty hit and miss with me. I usually HATE radio-friendly commercial garbage for its lack of soul - its lack of realness. If you venture away from the mainstream, you will find some excellent music, and you will find some excellent music in low fidelity that's almost unlistenable, then you'll find music that's more noisecore than actual organized sound, which is all well and good if it's in context of a larger work and not the whole work (see the latest Fantomas).
It depends on you goal in listening to music in the first place. Are you listening to something so you can cruise the strip, blasting it out your car windows so you seem cutting-edge and groovy? Are you trying to capture a feeling or emotion or memory you have inside you that this piece of music brings out? Are you trying to expand your perception of what comprises music in the first place? Do you want music to be a background mood-setter for you life, or do you want it to be at the forefront and in showcase all itself?
Bottom line is: I know what I like. I'll like it regardless of what ANYONE else thinks. And I'll like it for reasons that are all my own. Not saying this is the right way. There is no right way. But it is my way.
Submitted by WhatTheHell (user info) at 2005-03-21 12:27:29 EST (#)
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I have to admit, I have no idea what you are talking about.
Here's a plu 2 because I at least know it's NOT about cheese dogs, right ?
Submitted by GodLovesALittleLovin (user info) at 2005-03-21 12:20:56 EST (#)
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the main reason someone should listen to the mars volta is to hear the amazing percussion work that jon theodore lays down for them. in my opinion, he's one of the best new drummers i've heard in a long time.
Submitted by Jeanneee (user info) at 2005-03-21 12:19:28 EST (#)
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I'm convinced that indie rock bands purposely make their sound as inaccessible as possible as a joke on music fans.
Listen up, hipper-than-thou music people: Just because a record is arcane and difficult to listen to, DOES NOT MAKE IT A SEMINAL WORK OF GENIUS. Get off your high horses right now.
Submitted by Dolson (user info) at 2005-03-21 12:18:19 EST (#)
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Yeah, the lead singer from Rush is a guy. His name is Geddy Lee, and he's from Toronto.
I agree with the odd noises being shitty. Pink Floyd did that, and did it well, and that's where it should have ended. Nobody is topping Floyd anytime soon. Besides which, nobody will make an album comparable to Zeppelin IV anytime soon.
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2005-03-21 12:18:01 EST (#)
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-1 for believeing Rolling Stone
-1 for buying music
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Submitted by DeathJester (user info) at 2005-03-21 12:12:17 (#)
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How the fuck can they compare The Mars Volta to IV? If they're going to liken it to any album, it sounds like AEnima by Tool to me. Who the fuck wants to hear a baby crying? Or electricity noises?! Or some guy leaving an answering machine message?! I love their MUSIC, but some of it is just Maynard's pretentious garbage.
Cue people shouting "OMG TOOL ARE TEH SUXZOR YUO AER RETAERDED HAR HAR!!!!21"!1211".
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Conversely, "OMG TOOL ARE TEH ROXXOR YUO ARE AEWSUM HAR HAR!!!!!!!!132!"
This album is OK, just OK i think. I'm all for noise, but I'm more for talent, which this kind of lacked.
Go check out Your Enemies Friends (I'm all the sudden hooked on them): http://www.yourenemiesfriends.com/
Submitted by GodLovesALittleLovin (user info) at 2005-03-21 12:16:17 EST (#)
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the new cd is fucking amazing. the last track, cassandra gemini, is one song split into seven parts. 32 minutes long with a love of just jamming. i still like this whole cd as well as de-loused, the mars volta is only for musicians or people who are looking for something completely different from modern commercial rock.
Submitted by fudgepacker (user info) at 2005-03-21 12:14:16 EST (#)
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I have the album. Got it the day it came out. I was really into the their first album, "De-Loused in the Comatorium" and was very excited for their sophomore effort. I have to say that whle I did enjoy the 'content' of the album, I'll agree with you when you say the 'noises' were far too prevalent and perhaps redundant at times.
I have to say, though, they do have balls for putting something like this out there. I feel this album will be known as a 'groundbreaker' in years to come in the ever-growing 'prog-rock' movement. It is most certainly different than the smorgasboard of crap out there today, but different is necessarily good.
The Mars Volta most certainly takes some getting used to, and seeing as how I have't listened to the album more than once in its entirety, I want to give the album a chance before I can truly comment on it.
All I can say right now is that is a very different sound and I dig it.
Submitted by DeathJester (user info) at 2005-03-21 12:12:17 EST (#)
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How the fuck can they compare The Mars Volta to IV? If they're going to liken it to any album, it sounds like AEnima by Tool to me. Who the fuck wants to hear a baby crying? Or electricity noises?! Or some guy leaving an answering machine message?! I love their MUSIC, but some of it is just Maynard's pretentious garbage.
Cue people shouting "OMG TOOL ARE TEH SUXZOR YUO AER RETAERDED HAR HAR!!!!21"!1211".
Submitted by DJMattB241 (user info) at 2005-03-21 12:11:15 EST (#)
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wait, the lead singer of Rush is a man?!
anyways... i havent heard a whole lot from these guys, but the hype over Frances The Mute was... well... EVERYONE was talking about the CD... now that its out... no one mentions it anymore. funny, huh?
Submitted by AwesomeJohnson (user info) at 2005-03-21 12:10:47 EST (#)
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with a name like yours, you'll be sad to hear that John DeLorean died recently.
Submitted by blank_mind (user info) at 2005-03-21 12:07:52 EST (#)
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