God's rottweiler aka The German Shepard (712 hits)
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Submitted by brianthetruthspeaker (View user info) at 2005-04-19 15:45:07 EDT
In his memoirs, Ratzinger speaks openly of being enrolled in the Nazi youth movement when he was 14 in 1941, when membership was compulsory. He says he was soon let out because of his studies for the priesthood.
however
Two years later he was drafted into a Nazi anti-aircraft unit as a helper, a common fate for teenage boys too young to be soldiers. Enrolled as a soldier at 18, in the last months of the war, he barely finished basic training.
One liberal theologian, when asked what he thought of a Ratzinger papacy, was more direct: "It fills me with horror."
what do you think?
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Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2005-04-22 12:26:33 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Zoidberg (user info) at 2005-04-19 18:10:07 EDT (#)
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I wonder if plagiarism is a sin Brian?
oh but then you're obviously so well versed in the prophecies that you knew all that yourself
Submitted by Dolson (user info) at 2005-04-19 17:06:20 EDT (#)
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Submitted by CATHAIL (user info) at 2005-04-19 16:32:02 (#)
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EHM EHM..Excuse me, Dolson.
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Excuse yourself, bloody right. In the context of this post and my response, "that guy" is Ratzinger, and the post stealing bastard is Brian. Although John Paul II may have used ubersite too, you never know.
And besides which, it's not like there weren't Poles who collaborated with "ze Germans." (I am in no way accusing John Paul of collaborating, I'm just pointing out that anti-semitism or fascism is not restricted to any one nationality, as you are implying)
Submitted by ShotgunMessiah (user info) at 2005-04-19 16:54:35 EDT (#)
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Submitted by dwr_budr (user info) at 2005-04-19 15:52:06 (#)
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After hearing that I'm kind of afraid that he's going to corrupt the Church's long tradition of tolerance, peace, and encouragement of wisdom and intelligent thought.
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That was really funny.
Submitted by congo (user info) at 2005-04-19 16:40:00 EDT (#)
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Wow -- those links about the alternate pope are really, really fucked up.
Submitted by Jeanneee (user info) at 2005-04-19 16:38:55 EDT (#)
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Ratzinger is the 265th Pope, I think.
It sucks that he was a Nazi 60 years ago, but apparently the College of Cardinals were not overly concerned about it. It's not like he's going to be able to use the papacy to start another Nazi movement. Something tells me that wouldn't fly.
Submitted by CATHAIL (user info) at 2005-04-19 16:32:02 EDT (#)
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EHM EHM..Excuse me, Dolson.
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2005-04-19 16:31:01 EDT (#)
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no shit congo. a religious prediction that's hazy and lacking in detail. SHOCK!
and there are anti-popes now too.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucian_Pulvermacher
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/David_Bawden
though i don't know what they're playing at.
Submitted by CATHAIL (user info) at 2005-04-19 16:29:37 EDT (#)
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DOLSEN, POPE JOHN PAUL II WAS POLISH.
Submitted by congo (user info) at 2005-04-19 16:26:35 EDT (#)
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oh, no. I agree with you, Bob. That's what I was saying. It's a shady list that means nothing.
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2005-04-19 16:25:02 EDT (#)
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congo: The list doesn't add up because there were some anti-popes in there back in the 1200's. Just brought it up as a point of interest, it isn't doctrine.
Submitted by Pentameter (user info) at 2005-04-19 16:18:27 EDT (#)
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Maybe St. Malachy's hand got sore and he just stopped writing.
Submitted by congo (user info) at 2005-04-19 16:18:04 EDT (#)
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just to answer zakalwe's question, the list of Popes from St. Malachy's predictions started with ... I can't remember his name... whoever was pope slightly before Malachy's life, so it's been 111 since then.
But the stupid thing that people leave out is that all the popes on the list who were pope from before the list was found, the description of them was quite detailed. However, all the popes on the list who hadn't existed yet, they were described with short, nebulous Nastrodamus-like backfill-in-your-own-prophecy-here one-liners. Odd, that.
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2005-04-19 16:12:18 EDT (#)
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And are we not nearing 400 Popes, rather than 100 odd?
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2005-04-19 16:11:44 EDT (#)
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Why am I not surprised that you believe in something as nebulous as "Satanic forces."
Submitted by Brianthetruthspeaker (user info) at 2005-04-19 16:03:45 EDT (#)
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e St. Malachy prophecy indicates that the next Pope, #111 on the list will be the Pope of the Olive or Gloria Olivae ("Glory of the Olives")
The Pope #112 is the last on the list and thus the last of the Popes before the end of the Church. This Pope will be called "Peter Romanos" or "Petrus Romanus." The comments made by St. Malachy are as follows:
"(In extreme persecution, the seat of the Holy Roman Church will be occupied by Peter the Roman, who will feed the sheep through many tribulations, at the term of which the city of seven hills will be destroyed, and the formidable Judge will judge his people. The End.)"
We speak of a priest by the name of Father Malachi Martin who was the chief exorcist for the Vatican and T-H-E exorcist that became the famous priest in the movie The Exorcist.
Martin also spoke of the St. Malachy Prophecies. In regards to such prophecies Martin noted that perhaps Pope 111 will be the last pope, the Olive pope also known as the "Black Pope" or the Antichrist pope as opposed to the #112 Pope
to be called Peter Romanus. Martin also indicated that there might be an intervening pope between #'s 111 and 112. It seemed in listening to his last few media appearances that he believed Pope John Paul II might be the last good Pope after all. Of course, he also indicated that #111 might only reign as Pope for a few days, weeks or months before an untimely death like Pope John Paul the First who lived only 2 months.
Martin in his books and interviews makes it very clear that he thinks Satanic forces, operating through priests, bishops and cardinals who've sold their soul to the devil are in a position to soon take over the entire Roman Catholic Church. For some it might seem very strange, but for many of us Protestant observers, we've always thought that way about the RCC. Now, we're only surprised to hear men like Martin admit to it.
Martin was certain however that in the near future a Pope would become the Antichrist or "antipope" as he would some times call it. We here at A-O would disagree. We think that a future pope may be the False Prophet who drives everyone else to worship the Beast or Antichrist but not the actual "Antichrist."
"It says that no matter what happens there are going to be terrible wars, there are going to be diseases, whole nations are going to be wiped out, there are going to be 3 days darkness, there are going to be epidemics that will wipe out whole nations overnight, parts of the earth will be washed away at sea and violent tornadoes and storms. It's not a nice message at all"
Submitted by Dolson (user info) at 2005-04-19 16:01:28 EDT (#)
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I can't understand this choice, given his wartime record. Whether voluntarily or involuntarily involved in the German Army and the Hitler Youth, given the Church's shitty record during the Holocaust, this is the last guy I would want to have. Given his conservatism and quashing of dissent, he seems like a bit of a religious fascist too, which is never a good thing. So much for interfaith relationships. Why couldn't we just have another Italian?
I was working on a post essentially similar to this one, because I was that pissed about it. I never post, so that's saying a lot, you post stealing bastard.
Submitted by congo (user info) at 2005-04-19 16:01:07 EDT (#)
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Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2005-04-19 15:49:17 (#)
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He's what, 78 years old? He won't statistically last longer than 5 years. The Pope that comes after Ratzinger is supposed to be the last one, according to the predictions made by St. Malachi.
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Actually, St. Malachy only predicted one Pope after John Paul 2. The Benedictines added another Pope in between him and the last, because of a Prophecy they believed that said one of their own order was to lead the church against evil in the final battle.
But, ya know, take 1000 year old questionable vague prophecy for whatever it's worth.
Submitted by JMG114 (user info) at 2005-04-19 15:57:50 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-04-19 15:54:00 (#)
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Submitted by dwr_budr (user info) at 2005-04-19 15:52:06 (#)
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After hearing that I'm kind of afraid that he's going to corrupt the Church's long tradition of tolerance, peace, and encouragement of wisdom and intelligent thought.
Submitted by HadToBeDone (user info) at 2005-04-19 15:57:04 EDT (#)
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YAY!!! You can write coherently!
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-04-19 15:54:00 EDT (#)
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Submitted by dwr_budr (user info) at 2005-04-19 15:52:06 (#)
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After hearing that I'm kind of afraid that he's going to corrupt the Church's long tradition of tolerance, peace, and encouragement of wisdom and intelligent thought.
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Submitted by dwr_budr (user info) at 2005-04-19 15:52:06 EDT (#)
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After hearing that I'm kind of afraid that he's going to corrupt the Church's long tradition of tolerance, peace, and encouragement of wisdom and intelligent thought.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-04-19 15:49:41 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Teephphah (user info) at 2005-04-19 15:48:19 (#)
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Are you honestly trying to make a connection between the man's forced involvement with the Nazi's and an unattributed "liberal theologian"'s comments, keeping in mind that those unattributed comments are placed in absolutely no sort of context whatsoever?
Honestly?
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Brian likes to make weird correlations.
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2005-04-19 15:49:17 EDT (#)
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He's what, 78 years old? He won't statistically last longer than 5 years. The Pope that comes after Ratzinger is supposed to be the last one, according to the predictions made by St. Malachi.
Submitted by Teephphah (user info) at 2005-04-19 15:48:19 EDT (#)
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Are you honestly trying to make a connection between the man's forced involvement with the Nazi's and an unattributed "liberal theologian"'s comments, keeping in mind that those unattributed comments are placed in absolutely no sort of context whatsoever?
Honestly?
Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2005-04-19 15:47:59 EDT (#)
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I did not know that...
Submitted by Yes (user info) at 2005-04-19 15:46:54 EDT (#)
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time to light the fires and kick the tires, big daddy?