Why we should supprt Drilling For Oil In ANWR (1143 hits)
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Submitted by brianthetruthspeaker (View user info) at 2005-04-21 14:03:47 EDT
Facts
Only 8% of ANWR Would Be Considered for Exploration Only the 1.5 million acre or 8% on the northern coast of ANWR is being considered for development. The remaining 17.5 million acres or 92% of ANWR will remain permanently closed to any kind of development. If oil is discovered, less than 2000 acres of the over 1.5 million acres of the Coastal Plain would be affected. That¹s less than half of one percent of ANWR that would be affected by production activity.
Revenues to the State and Federal Treasury Federal revenues would be enhanced by billions of dollars from bonus bids, lease rentals, royalties and taxes. Estimates on bonus bids for ANWR by the Office of Management and Budget and the Department of Interior for the first 5 years after Congressional approval are 4.2 billion dollars.
Jobs To Be Created Between 250,000 and 735,000 ANWR jobs are estimated to be created by development of the Coastal Plain.
Economic Impact Between 1977 and 2004, North Slope oil field development and production activity contributed over $50 billion to the nations economy, directly impacting each state in the union.
America's Best Chance for a Major Discovery The Coastal Plain of ANWR is America's best possibility for the discovery of another giant "Prudhoe Bay-sized" oil and gas discovery in North America. U.S. Department of Interior estimates range from 9 to 16 billion barrels of recoverable oil.
North Slope Production in Decline The North Slope oil fields currently provide the U.S. with nearly 16% of it's domestic production and since 1988 this production has been on the decline. Peak production was reached in 1980 of two million barrels a day, but has been declining to a current level of 943,000 barrels a day.
Imported Oil Too Costly In 2004 the US imported an average of 58% of its oil and during certain months up to 64%. That equates to over $150 billion in oil imports and over $170 billion including refined petroleum products. That¹s $19.9 million dollars an hour! Including defence costs the number would be nearly a trillion dollars.
No Negative Impact on Animals Oil and gas development and wildlife are successfully coexisting in Alaska 's arctic. For example, the Central Arctic Caribou Herd (CACH) which migrates through Prudhoe Bay has grown from 3000 animals to its current level of 32,000 animals. The arctic oil fields have very healthy brown bear, fox and bird populations equal to their surrounding areas.
Arctic Technology Advanced technology has greatly reduced the 'footprint" of arctic oil development. If Prudhoe Bay were built today, the footprint would be 1,526 acres, 64% smaller.
Alaskans Support More than 75% of Alaskans favor exploration and production in ANWR. The Inupiat Eskimos who live in and near ANWR support onshore oil development on the Coastal Plain.
When Congress created ANWAR, the area that we want to drill today was specifically set aside FOR DRILLING!
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Submitted by MyNameIsTim (user info) at 2005-04-22 13:06:03 EDT (#)
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i hate politics
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-04-22 12:49:34 EDT (#)
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Submitted by spedmonkey (user info) at 2005-04-21 16:44:12 (#)
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Submitted by Wiggles (user info) at 2005-04-21 16:31:42 (#)
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You have successfully taken a conservative webpage's talking point and translated it into Retarded.
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His point might not have been elegantly expressed but they are pretty clear, and he does back them up with facts. I think this is a matter of rating the poster.
The only reasonbable arguments against his position is the argument of when will it stop if we start drilling there.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-04-22 03:36:51 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Degreeless_Capibara (user info) at 2005-04-21 20:53:00 (#)
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Submitted by PissedOffRightWingerWithAGun (user info) at 2005-04-21 20:38:09 (#)
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Submitted by cuberat (user info) at 2005-04-21 14:25:46 (#)
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...1) The president's oil industry cronies will get all the fat contracts and reap all the economic benefits and none will trickle down to anyone else, and ...
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Actually, Alaskans will receive a nice chunk of it, probably $2,000 per person per year in free cash!
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Does it really matter if the government gives out $4,000 to its citizens?
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smartass
Submitted by joedaddy (user info) at 2005-04-22 03:23:35 EDT (#)
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You wouldn't happen to be hiding in "Dickie" Pombos ass would you?
Submitted by K.M (user info) at 2005-04-21 22:07:14 EDT (#)
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You fucking dumb bag of shit, think about why your country is drilling in an arctic wildlife reserve. I bet you grabbed this from the same site that has about as many reasons to privatize social security or preemptively invade another country. How can you be this fucking intellectually impotent?
Submitted by Fartman (user info) at 2005-04-21 21:42:32 EDT (#)
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Your mastery of the fucked up, disjointed, cut and paste post is truly stunning.
Submitted by Degreeless_Capibara (user info) at 2005-04-21 20:53:00 EDT (#)
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Submitted by PissedOffRightWingerWithAGun (user info) at 2005-04-21 20:38:09 (#)
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Submitted by cuberat (user info) at 2005-04-21 14:25:46 (#)
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...1) The president's oil industry cronies will get all the fat contracts and reap all the economic benefits and none will trickle down to anyone else, and ...
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Actually, Alaskans will receive a nice chunk of it, probably $2,000 per person per year in free cash!
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Does it really matter if the government gives out $4,000 to its citizens?
Submitted by nitty34 (user info) at 2005-04-21 20:52:09 EDT (#)
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I agree, but unoriginal.
http://www.ubersite.com/m/61579
Submitted by Phallic_Cymbals (user info) at 2005-04-21 20:44:21 EDT (#)
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Might as well clear the whole continent of resources before China gets it, right?
You know if you destroy something natural on that scale it will never come back?
Submitted by PissedOffRightWingerWithAGun (user info) at 2005-04-21 20:38:09 EDT (#)
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Submitted by cuberat (user info) at 2005-04-21 14:25:46 (#)
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...1) The president's oil industry cronies will get all the fat contracts and reap all the economic benefits and none will trickle down to anyone else, and ...
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Actually, Alaskans will receive a nice chunk of it, probably $2,000 per person per year in free cash!
Submitted by spedmonkey (user info) at 2005-04-21 16:44:12 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Wiggles (user info) at 2005-04-21 16:31:42 (#)
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You have successfully taken a conservative webpage's talking point and translated it into Retarded.
Submitted by Wiggles (user info) at 2005-04-21 16:31:42 EDT (#)
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No Negative Impact on Animals Oil and gas development and wildlife are successfully coexisting in Alaska 's arctic. For example, the Central Arctic Caribou Herd (CACH) which migrates through Prudhoe Bay has grown from 3000 animals to its current level of 32,000 animals. The arctic oil fields have very healthy brown bear, fox and bird populations equal to their surrounding areas.
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You have successfully taken a conservative webpage's talking point and translated it into Retarded.
Submitted by Wiggles (user info) at 2005-04-21 16:28:58 EDT (#)
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With conservatives like Jack McCallum and domenad you can at least hold a halfway decent discussion. You are a whole different species.
Submitted by Wiggles (user info) at 2005-04-21 16:26:54 EDT (#)
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I had no idea you were such an environmental expert. What kind of coursework did you take in Environmental Science and Policy?
Oh, my mistake. You just took this from some bullshit conservative website.
Submitted by Death_Metal_Dude (user info) at 2005-04-21 16:18:31 EDT (#)
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your mother's uterus houses a colony of termites that feed off your dad's penis flesh
Submitted by HadToBeDone (user info) at 2005-04-21 16:16:00 EDT (#)
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If it were going to stop at that 1.5 million acres, most wouldn't be opposed to this. the problem is that the US government has never been able to say no to requests for more and more, hence the whole "taking all the land, sea to sea" thing.
It's 1.5 million acres now, 10 million in 10 years, and eventually it's no longer ANWR.
But good job presenting facts, although facts can be manipulated (in either direction). You put more effort into this than a lot of people would.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-04-21 15:56:41 EDT (#)
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goddamnit brian.
You know that you got some facts on your side, why cock it up?
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-04-21 15:55:38 EDT (#)
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Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2005-04-21 14:07:08 (#)
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drill away, most of you cunts will be dead in 50 years anyway.
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yeah, and?
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2005-04-21 15:16:01 EDT (#)
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i bet a traumatic childhood experience explains your inability to use the shift key correctly.
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2005-04-21 14:58:29 EDT (#)
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I wouldn't be suprised if you worked in the Bush administration.
Submitted by Umbilical_Cord (user info) at 2005-04-21 14:56:20 EDT (#)
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The problem isn't killing of a few animals in Alaska, the problem is that all the CO2 we put in the air is going to catch up and bite us, or our decendents, in the ass. Its eventually going to run out, this is just putting off the problem.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-04-21 14:52:47 EDT (#)
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Submitted by cuberat (user info) at 2005-04-21 14:25:46 (#)
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More conservative/republican bullshit.
Ok, where to begin. There is ALWAYS environmental impact of drilling, whether it be waste products, spoilation of untouched wilderness, generation of human waste (natural and refuse) in the area, disruption of natural habitats, or anti-biodiversification. These are just the DIRECT environmental impacts of drilling in ANWR.
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The only one of these that is real is the untouched wilderness, and this can be kept to a minimum. There are oil wells that leave virtually zero waste. Natural habitats would not be adversely affected by this(they have already proven this in Alaska).
Add to these the INDIRECT effects: Increased greenhouse gasses caused by using the oil and gas, contamination of waterways, acid rain, and smog.
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What? That is like saying a bad side effect of more oil being produced in Iraq is going to cause more greenhouse gasses, yes it is true, but it applies to more oil drilled anywhere.
Top this all of with the fact that 1) The president's oil industry cronies will get all the fat contracts and reap all the economic benefits and none will trickle down to anyone else, and 2) All the oil we currently drill in Alaska is sold OVERSEAS because it is more profitable to sell it there then domestically.
Dolts like you who think this will bring down gas prices in the US or reduce our dependence on foreign oil are totally blind. We could drill every drop out of every US oil field and these companies will continue to ship it overseas where they can make a bigger profit, and we will still pay over $2 a gallon for gasoline make from OPEC oil.
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A lot of oil is shipped overseas because nobody wants to have refineries here, not because oil companies are somehow pimping out US oil overseas, they are looking for the cheapest way to get the end product here.
As far as the Presidents cronies getting all the contracts, I highly doubt it. there would be so much attention on this deal (or deals, which is more likely) there is no way there could be a closed bidding.
The only good argument against this as far as I can see is once it is opened up for something it is a slippery slope to start opening it up for more reasons.
Submitted by cuberat (user info) at 2005-04-21 14:25:46 EDT (#)
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More conservative/republican bullshit.
Ok, where to begin. There is ALWAYS environmental impact of drilling, whether it be waste products, spoilation of untouched wilderness, generation of human waste (natural and refuse) in the area, disruption of natural habitats, or anti-biodiversification. These are just the DIRECT environmental impacts of drilling in ANWR.
Add to these the INDIRECT effects: Increased greenhouse gasses caused by using the oil and gas, contamination of waterways, acid rain, and smog.
Top this all of with the fact that 1) The president's oil industry cronies will get all the fat contracts and reap all the economic benefits and none will trickle down to anyone else, and 2) All the oil we currently drill in Alaska is sold OVERSEAS because it is more profitable to sell it there then domestically.
Dolts like you who think this will bring down gas prices in the US or reduce our dependence on foreign oil are totally blind. We could drill every drop out of every US oil field and these companies will continue to ship it overseas where they can make a bigger profit, and we will still pay over $2 a gallon for gasoline make from OPEC oil.
You suck. Go away.
Submitted by Brianthetruthspeaker (user info) at 2005-04-21 14:21:20 EDT (#)
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What I do not understand are people driving Hummers to the Market.(approx 8 miles a gal)
And on paved streets?
There are about 10 of them here in Newport (RI).
Their are many narrow streets built in the early 1880s and it is impossible to navigate them with a Hummer heading in the opposite direction.
Submitted by garcon_fou (user info) at 2005-04-21 14:20:55 EDT (#)
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"92% of ANWR will remain permanently closed to any kind of development"
The problem is that it's a one-way street. Next time somebody wants some real estate, maybe a bomb testing site, they just carve a little more off. There ain't no permanent when the government's in charge.
Submitted by Brianthetruthspeaker (user info) at 2005-04-21 14:15:27 EDT (#)
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The information is all over the www
I summarized what I found. To only 25% of the actual document and added my own information.
Sorry that I didn't list all my sources?
Funny how this type of scrutiny only applies to people putting the facts out.
Submitted by ellsmall (user info) at 2005-04-21 14:13:56 EDT (#)
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At least we won't have to kill anyone to get this oil.
Submitted by fudgepacker (user info) at 2005-04-21 14:10:03 EDT (#)
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cite your sources, brian.
http://www.fi.edu/guide/chandler/publicpolicy.html
http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2005/3/14/163649/233
http://www.iogcc.oklaosf.state.ok.us/MISCFILE/resolutions_2003.htm
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-04-21 14:09:07 EDT (#)
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why everything you say should be discarded because we all know you're into propaganda.
Submitted by Josephine (user info) at 2005-04-21 14:08:55 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2005-04-21 14:06:46 (#)
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Informative, but is English your second language?
Submitted by congo (user info) at 2005-04-21 14:08:18 EDT (#)
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This is the first thing I've ever agreed with you on.
But you didn't actually write it, so 0's as high as it goes.
Submitted by freebie (user info) at 2005-04-21 14:08:13 EDT (#)
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You do realize the SUV driving liberal morons here are just gonna -2 this.
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2005-04-21 14:07:08 EDT (#)
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drill away, most of you cunts will be dead in 50 years anyway.
Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2005-04-21 14:06:46 EDT (#)
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Informative, but is English your second language?