US Soldier smooshes fellow US soldiers in the name of Allah. (1197 hits)
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Submitted by Hair (View user info) at 2005-04-29 02:37:44 EDT
Woah, Holy Fuck!
This may be news, this may be old hat, but it's the first time I have heard about it. Probably because the thought of Americans killing each other is not all that outstanding, it does happen a fair bit - fair enough in a country of 300 million people with nearly as many firearms.
Also fair enough when in the theatre of war when "friendly fire" can be an innocuous excuse for simple fuckuppery. Shit happens at war, buddy.
Actually, Americans seem to like a bit of hot lead in an adversary.
WHOAAAAAH!
Just getting my head around this...
An American Army guy decided to defend his fellow Moozleeems by smooshing his fellow soldiers up, just before invading Iraq.
The article reads, in part:
"Sgt Hasan Akbar threw grenades into troop tents in the early morning darkness and then fired on soldiers in the ensuing chaos. Army Capt. Chris Seifert, 27, and Air Force Maj. Gregory Stone, 40, were killed."
"Prosecutors say Akbar launched the attack at his camp - days before the soldiers were to move into Iraq - because he was concerned about US troops killing fellow Muslims in the Iraq war..."
"He is a hate-filled, ideologically driven murderer," chief prosecutor Lieutenant Colonel Michael Mulligan said. He said that Akbar wrote in his diary in 1997, "My life will not be complete unless America is destroyed".
Link to the article: http://www.theage.com.au/news/Iraq/US-soldier-sentenced-to-death-over-attack/2005/04/29/1114635731442.html
OK - a few points to ponder...
1. Why would you take a severely religious Muslim to Iraq? I would think to put him back at home, not tear it apart.
2. Couldn't they let him shoot up shit in some other place for a while? Maybe Guam? What about Texas?
3. Is that the only place to send a mat-prayer - to shoot at his spiritual brethren? Can't we detect a smidge of issue here
WTF, mate???
Sorry, I really struggle with this whole war concept. It just seems that people just get smooshed all over the place.
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Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2005-07-26 06:46:30 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Hairsphincter (user info) at 2005-05-06 01:28:34 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-05-05 12:54:51 (#)
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Look at your nickname... How would the muslims think about that? You're a fucking fraud and everyone knows this.
...uuuum... I don't think any of us are all that innocent, eh stabkill? Unless you mean stabbing a bunny with love and killing it with kindness...
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-05-05 12:54:51 EDT (#)
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Preaching the bullshit that is contained in the quran is worthless. I don't need you, a worthless piece of shit muslim moron, to try to whitewash what your religion is all about. All I need for proof is all the nations that muslims are the dominate people of the land.
If for one second anyone believes that the same wouldn't happen here in the USA if you lowlife camel fucking freaks were in charge, they are stupid.
Fuck Islam, and fuck you. What you say means absolute zero.
Tell me when you are going to prepare your suicide bomb belt with C-4 and walk into a crowded restaurant so I can stay clear of the place....fucking worthless shitbag.
Look at your nickname... How would the muslims think about that? You're a fucking fraud and everyone knows this.
Submitted by ChronicMasturbator (user info) at 2005-05-05 12:10:48 EDT (#)
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This is the most hilarious thing ever!
A non-Muslim telling ME how Islam is in the Middle East. No No No, SOMEONE who has lived in the middle east for several years of his life, AND is telling me. Wow, the world has turned upside down.
From what I observe in your writings, I see two things. Other than typing out every sentence with the dip of your dick, you seem to type like an 8th grader. Alas, I digree. Either you are just trying to get heat into this post, or your an idiot who keeps on re-iterating the same point over and over again. At that, you make Strawman Arguement consistantly. What interests me is that you think I am an idiot (or a dog in your world) but yet you keep on coming back bringing up useless points.
It doesn't matter what people think because all the claims I have made so far, regarding dogs, is all backed up my scriptual evidence. If other "Muslims" are beating dogs, it doesn't matter because its contrary to the evidence fortold in the holy book and hadith.
Here some points, since you seem to be fixated over the sites I visit, not the points I make.
1- God tells us in the Quran about the story of the dwellers of the Cave (Surah 18)......in verse 13 God tells us that they were good believers and that God guided them.
In verse 18 God tells us that they had their dog with them.
Now if dogs are prohibited and dirty, would God speak of those dwellers of the Cave (who had a dog) as good believers?
2- In 5:4 God tells us that it is OK to eat what the trained dogs catch (dogs are used in hunting)..........if dogs are dirty would God say that it is OK to eat what they catch with their mouths?
3- There is not ONE verse in the Quran where God says that dogs are dirty or that they are prohibited to keep.
4- Is it logical that God would create an animal to be man's best friend and serve him in many ways, and then prohibit such an animal?
5- "They consult you concerning what is lawful for them; say, Lawful for you are all good things, including what trained dogs and falcons catch for you. You train them according God's teachings. You may eat what they catch for you, and mention God's name thereupon. You shall observe God. God is most efficient in reckoning."
6- How do we know that Muslims are not forbidden to be around dogs? We look at God's word, at the Quran. In the story of the men of the cave in Sura 18, it becomes clear that God sees dogs as part of men's lives.
18:18 "You would think that they were awake, when they were in fact asleep. We turned them to the right side and the left side, while their dog stretched his arms in their midst."
This is all from the Qu'ran. Not the Hadith. Qu'ran is main source of guidance. If anything contrary appears in the Hadith, it is ignored because Hadith are man-made observations of traditions. Of course, many of them are also forged. However, scholars through the ages have recognized many that are true according to multiple eye witness accounts, and/or agreement with the Qu'ran.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-05-05 01:15:55 EDT (#)
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http://www.submission.org/ is a watered down, bastardized version of what islam is all about. Any true muslim who actually is from the middle east would be disgusted by the behavior of 99% of the people who follow islam that way.
You're 100% pathetic. Don't you have a humvee to blow up or something?
Submitted by ChronicMasturbator (user info) at 2005-05-05 00:50:11 EDT (#)
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Yes it doesn't matter, since the website is Muslim to begin with.
The fact that the Muslim Authors agree with it doesn't matter, the content matters. Of course you just skimmed over my other links.
For all you care, she could be a Muslim. There are a few Muslims with American names. Islam is not a religion about physical identity, rather with spiritual one.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-05-05 00:44:10 EDT (#)
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Bah...Dogs: BEYOND TRADITIONAL ISLAM written by Lydia Kelley??? Kelley?? Wow, that's a real muslim sounding name...
I'm glad you are going to articles written by white-bread westerners for how muslims should treat dogs.
Now I KNOW you are full of shit. You're pathetic, and it is making me pathetic for staying up this late.
Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2005-05-05 00:21:48 EDT (#)
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I reckon a lot of the traditions in the Quran and the Bible - the dog saliva thing, circumcision etc. were written so as to keep the followers of that religion from getting sick or infected.
There's like a whole section in the Bible devoted to telling you how to clean sores, based on the colour and size, interspersed with things like "and that is the will of the Lord". Bah.
Submitted by ChronicMasturbator (user info) at 2005-05-05 00:15:03 EDT (#)
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http://www.submission.org/pets/dogs.html
From a well respected Islamic Website with some quotes.
AHAHAHA YOU WENT TO ANSWERING-ISLAM.ORG?!?!?!
A Missionary Website that is infamous for deleting Quranic Verses and improperly citing them.
Hilarious.
Here is the Islamic Perspective, NOT A CHRISTIAN PERSPECTIVE ON MUSLIMS AND WHAT THEY BELIEVE.
www.submission.org/pets/
www.islamicconcerns.com/dogs.asp
www.sparealife.org/fadl.html
www.albalagh.net/qa/dogs_islam_prayer.shtml
Oh yes, these are from Scholars who have cited things properly
The only things is that the saliva of a dog is impure and if you get it, you must do absolution (Clean yourself in that area, change your cloths, every simple..) in order to do prayer.
Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2005-05-05 00:11:53 EDT (#)
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Why the fuck are you still talking about dogs?
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-05-05 00:06:07 EDT (#)
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http://www.islamicconcerns.com/dogs.asp
It is funny when an islamic pet lover is trying to convince others that dogs are not impure... And using scripture to accomplish it by making his own interpretation up to show it is OK.
"Islamic legal tradition has developed several injunctions that warn Muslims against most contact with dogs." followed then by his excuse that many muslims don't believe this is right...
And of course, a story that is on my side:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/802436/posts
Fact: Muslims believe dogs are impure and not supposed to have them as pets and many are abused and put to death due to your bullshit religion.
Go ahead and keep lying about your bullshit faith....
There is only one Satan, and Muhammad is his prophet.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-05-04 23:54:53 EDT (#)
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Remember, Pakistan is helping the US against the fight with Al Queda. They are the ones who caught OBL's number two guy.
Musharraf is hated by a large section of the population and people keep trying to kill him...
http://www.islamicperspectives.com/MusharrafReferendum.htm
Just go to any Islamic website and they will not have kind words for the man... I trust you as far as I can throw you.
Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2005-05-04 23:51:39 EDT (#)
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Stabkill - you're obviously right.
He is a Muslim - that doesn't make him informed, it makes him biased.
You, however, believe Muslims are a lower form of life than dogs, and should be wiped off the face of the Earth. This doesn't signal prejudice, it signals objectivity.
Congratulations on a well structured and well reasoned argument.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-05-04 23:51:31 EDT (#)
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And to anyone who may think you are not lying, they can go ahead and search google for "islam" and "dogs" themselves to find some history of islam and dogs....
Because any link I'd put up there could be viewed as handpicked to get what views I want... I want people to do it themselves and discover the TRUTH isn't what a muslim tells you.
NOW ... I'm done. Last minute eBay bids keeping me up late and I checked back, but I'll have to wait til tomorrow for anything else.
Don't kill any jews anytime soon...
Submitted by ChronicMasturbator (user info) at 2005-05-04 23:50:26 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-05-04 22:26:04 (#)
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ChronicMasturbator, I don't need to tell you it because I know it is in there and would rather not go into a long debate over the bullshit.
The bible has a bunch of stuff in there that isn't too good either...stuff about beating children (spare the rod, spoil the child), condoning slavery, etc.... But most Christians look past this stuff...fundementalists don't.
So we could go round and round about what the quran says and what it doesn't, but when you watch these lowlife muslims blow up people or cut off heads while cheering allahu akbar, do you really need to know the passage in the quran that says that it is OK?
The fact is, I dislike all religions but since most are not physical threats to the health of most people, I can overlook their bullshit...all religions except one: Islam. And until that changes, why should I? Do you hear muslims condemning the actions of these terrorists? Never. You want to cry that they fear them? I'm sure these bastards at CAIR really "fear" members of HAMAS when their leaders say "we are all part of hamas" and shit like that...
Why do I need the burden of proof on my side when I can point you in the direction of 20 videos with muslims killing in the name of their God?
Blah blah blah...we can go on forever, I've heard all the bullshit excuses and lies...everyone who believes them is as much of a sucker as the people who follow those faiths that teach the lies.
If you want to go on believing that muslims are your friends, go ahead. I'm not stopping you...hell, I'm encouraging you to go ahead and go on to a place like Saudi Arabia or Egypt and enjoy these people.
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You live in your own dark world. After 9/11, Islamic Groups in America, AND the rest of the world called it off. In fact, a Muslim Group in Spain followed a Fatwa (Religious Call) against OBL. Remember, Pakistan is helping the US against the fight with Al Queda. They are the ones who caught OBL's number two guy.
Oh Yes, why don't you post the lines I asked for. Don't tell me it's IN there, post me some lines.
I am afraid that you are trying to say this: Quran says this and that, however the good muslims don't follow it, so they are peaceful. However there are fundementalist groups that are using those lines.
However, your making one error. Is Islam (This is really irrelevent, but 'Salam means peace)peaceful? Does it allow these things to happen? Does it allow the killing of Prisoners of War?
Does it in fact incite such action? Does it in fact allow Suicide Bombing? Does it allow Muslims to be transgressors in war?
Look into this. You hate Islam because what Muslims are doing. However, have you stopped and thought about wheter those actions are supported by Islam? Does Islam in fact allow killings? If not, then those Muslims are not ones to judge their faith by. In fact, you can not judge a faith by it's believers. If I did, I would be out there yelling at each Christian for the Crusades. But I don't do that.
Sounds like you have been reading up on CAIR by Daniel Pipes....
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-05-04 23:48:28 EDT (#)
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You are a fake muslim hated by the majority of your "people". Pathetic...
Mohammed hated dogs.
Now I know you have a bias to defend islam so pretty much anything you say is probably lies to try to whitewash the truth.... Pretty obvious from the beginning, actually.
Submitted by ChronicMasturbator (user info) at 2005-05-04 23:39:47 EDT (#)
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I think YOU need education in what islam is about, not I. Do you know how many muslims go against the preachings of their quran and how they are viewed as outcasts and hated by the majority of their faith? If you actually enjoy having a dog for a pet, that is anti-islamic behavior for one.... Because the quran definitely says that dogs are not mans best friend. You gotta follow what that book says because it is right!!!
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I am a Muslim. Of course that doesn't matter, I am a still a dirty dog, eh?
Yes, many countries today do not follow the traditional way of Muslim way. I agree with you. Saudi is a bullshit society, so are Yemen. In fact, Islamic Prophecies have said that after Islam has spread to the four corners of the globe, the sad thing will be that most Muslims will be living under oppressive regimes.
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Do you know how many muslims go against the preachings of their quran and how they are viewed as outcasts and hated by the majority of their faith?
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You mean they are not Muslims. They turn into non-Muslims. However, the hate is uncalled for non-believers. Remember, ME has also the lowest education rates in the world. People get offended at people leaving their faith. Again, my idea of a stronger education system works. For the Quran says "There is no compulsion in religion".
I think what you are getting at is to REFORM people in the ME, not the Islamic Faith. It's easy to find scapegoats.
The solution? Western Nations need to pressure ME countries to change their political aspects. Anyways, I had a friend who went to Indonasia, and asked an Imam (A Muslim Priest if you will) about America. "If you want to see Islam in it's pure political form, look at the US constitution.
PS: Your dog thing is incorrect.
Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2005-05-04 23:13:27 EDT (#)
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If muslims dislike terror so much, why are they 1) The ones doing it and 2) saying nothing if that terror is directed at jews?
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1) They're not
2) They aren't
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-05-04 23:02:57 EDT (#)
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Do you know what an apologist is, Chronic? These are the people that people like yourself listen to and wind up saying, "OK. I believe you, thank you for showing me the right way."
The only thing is .... apologists lie. That is their job: To make up excuses for the outward freakish realities of their fucked-up religion, be it the muslims or mormons.
And they are all shit.... but only one is blowing people up, and that's why I will always take a stand against these lowest form of life on earth.... Muslims.
Muslim-dominated nations have the among the worst human rights records on the entire planet. They have the least amount of freedom (which leads to terrorism is what many experts are saying).
I'm done tonight...have fun linking apologist comments and websites designed to make people ignore reality and view people in a way that doesn't make sense to someone with a shred of common sense in their brain.
If muslims dislike terror so much, why are they 1) The ones doing it and 2) saying nothing if that terror is directed at jews?
Goodnight. I don't care if you want to go on being the fool, because I know you will. You are a snot-nosed jerkoff who hasn't seen the world outside of mommy & daddy's roof and a college dorm.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-05-04 22:52:58 EDT (#)
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According to Huston Smith, "no part of the world is more hopelessley and systematically and stubbornly misunderstood by us than the complex of religion, culture, and geography known as Islam." 52 Historically this has often led to a negative perspective by Westerners of Islamic regions, because of their inability to understand the fundamental aspect of their lifestlye that is Islam.
Yeah, maybe I just don't fucking understand why muslims lop off heads and scream allahu akbar like they are having an orgasm. They blow off bombs in the name of their god...and they are just misunderstood!!! That's the answer.
Yeah, blame the jews...that's what the "historian" would like to do there in his article... Ignore the part where the jews lived by the millions all throughout the middle east but also fled when their lives were in danger as they lived in constant fear and were hated by their arab neighbors.
Fuck it...whatever you say. Poor islam...so misunderstood in places like Saudi Arabia where it is illegal to practice any other religion.... I am sorry I am being so insensitive to muslims.
You are a fuckin' sucker to believe that bullshit and I laugh in your face over your pathetic love of these murderers.
I think YOU need education in what islam is about, not I. Do you know how many muslims go against the preachings of their quran and how they are viewed as outcasts and hated by the majority of their faith? If you actually enjoy having a dog for a pet, that is anti-islamic behavior for one.... Because the quran definitely says that dogs are not mans best friend. You gotta follow what that book says because it is right!!!
Screw you, screw all the religious fundamentalists ... ESPECIALLY muslims.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-05-04 22:27:31 EDT (#)
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ChronicMasturbator, Thorpe, Zak might as well all be the same person... Praising the values of socialist systems, anti-americanism, and love for the most intolerant religion on the face of the planet.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-05-04 22:26:04 EDT (#)
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ChronicMasturbator, I don't need to tell you it because I know it is in there and would rather not go into a long debate over the bullshit.
The bible has a bunch of stuff in there that isn't too good either...stuff about beating children (spare the rod, spoil the child), condoning slavery, etc.... But most Christians look past this stuff...fundementalists don't.
So we could go round and round about what the quran says and what it doesn't, but when you watch these lowlife muslims blow up people or cut off heads while cheering allahu akbar, do you really need to know the passage in the quran that says that it is OK?
The fact is, I dislike all religions but since most are not physical threats to the health of most people, I can overlook their bullshit...all religions except one: Islam. And until that changes, why should I? Do you hear muslims condemning the actions of these terrorists? Never. You want to cry that they fear them? I'm sure these bastards at CAIR really "fear" members of HAMAS when their leaders say "we are all part of hamas" and shit like that...
Why do I need the burden of proof on my side when I can point you in the direction of 20 videos with muslims killing in the name of their God?
Blah blah blah...we can go on forever, I've heard all the bullshit excuses and lies...everyone who believes them is as much of a sucker as the people who follow those faiths that teach the lies.
If you want to go on believing that muslims are your friends, go ahead. I'm not stopping you...hell, I'm encouraging you to go ahead and go on to a place like Saudi Arabia or Egypt and enjoy these people.
Submitted by ChronicMasturbator (user info) at 2005-05-04 22:22:06 EDT (#)
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"Muslims are dogs. No...Muslims are worse than dogs. Why would I insult dogs by equating muslims with them?"
Yes thank you, I take that very kindly. Please, continue reading up on the KKK. I see how you have digressed your arguements in this post.
Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2005-05-04 22:21:43 EDT (#)
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Good ol' Stabkill.
Submitted by ChronicMasturbator (user info) at 2005-05-04 22:18:59 EDT (#)
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Stabkill it might be useful for you to read the bottom part on women. There are some links too.
Submitted by ChronicMasturbator (user info) at 2005-05-04 22:16:59 EDT (#)
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A view of a Historian
According to Huston Smith, "no part of the world is more hopelessley and systematically and stubbornly misunderstood by us than the complex of religion, culture, and geography known as Islam." 52 Historically this has often led to a negative perspective by Westerners of Islamic regions, because of their inabilityto understand the fundamental aspect of their lifestlye that is Islam.
The relationship between Islam and the West has always been precarious. Islam is such a fundamental aspect of everyday life of most Arabs, that the secular societies of the West find difficult to relate to it. There has been centuries of resentment and mistrust built up between these two seemingly conflicting ideologies. Much of it stems back centuriesover religious conflict and territorial interests, all of which are still pertinent today. And while not all Arabs are Muslim and vice versa, this section will deal mostlywith the conflict between the Arab world because it contains the largest proportion of Muslims and is where the conflict originated.
According to Edward Said, author of Orientalism , the history of anti-Arab prejudice can be traced back to when "Islam was born, when Islam was a political and economic threat to Europe." 53 However, much of the current antogonism between Islamic countriesand the West lie in the 19th and 20th century colonialism of the Middle East by the West. In 1896 Great Britain colonized Egypt and remained an influential presencethere and in the Arabian Penninsula for the next fifty years. The mistrust and duplicity that rose from this relationship laid the foundation for future generations.
During World War I, the Ottoman Empire sided with the Germans. The British in response turned to the Arabian Pennisula in hopes of gaininga strategic ally. They appealed to Sharif Hussein, the Islamic religious leader of Mecca and a descendent of the Prophet. He agreed to attack the Ottomans with the assurance that if they wonthe UK would support his desire to establish and Independent Arab State. This became known as the Hussein- McMahon Correspondence of 1916. 54
Hussein however, was unaware of a promise the British has made to the French for the same territory in 1915. The Sykes-Picot Agreement divided up the Ottoman Empire into British and French spheres of influence at the end of World War I. In the end, France received Lebanon and northern parts of Iraq, the British held onto the southern part of the penninsula and Hussein and his sons were given Syria, Jordan, and Iraq. However, the deceit by the British forever tarnished the trust between the Arabs and the West.
This trust was severed futher when the Zionist Movement at the turn of the century further threatened Muslim and Arab Territory. Zionism was founded by Theodor Herzl who argued on behalf of European Jews that they were not safe in Europe and they deserved a national homeland of their own. It was decided that Palestine where Judaism wasfouned would be the homeland of the Jews. Intially only a small wave of Jews immigrated to Palestine, but with the rise of Hitler thousands migrated there. However, establishing themselves there conflicted with the pre- established Arab population. In 1917 in the Balfour Decleration, the British supported a Jewish homeland in Palestine. This Western support only strengthened the Arab opionion of British duplicity because they were giving away land they had already promised to the Arabs and that was not theirs to give away.
In 1948, the Independent State of Israel was declared and thousands of Arab Palestinians fled their homes. Since this time there have been countless battles and border disputes between Arab/Islamic states and the Jewish State of Israel. After the Arab states gained their indpendence in the middle of the 20th Century, British and French influence has been minimal, but it was replaced by the United States and USSR. Neither nation saw ideological interest in the Islamic or Jewish states but sought to exert their influence out of strategic importance during the Cold War. Western influence eventually became unwelcomed but still necessary and today there is a persistant internal and external conflict over the interests of the Modern west and traditional lifestyle of the Islamic Middle East.
http://religiousmovements.lib.virginia.edu/nrms/islam.html
Submitted by ChronicMasturbator (user info) at 2005-05-04 22:07:31 EDT (#)
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Ok I have stayed to quiet in this thread for too long.
A Muslim is defined as someone who follows the Quran. If a Muslim commits a terrorist act, it is simple just to say, "Their holy book incites it". Now, what if we just said, that current terrorist acts are occuring due to social and political events in the ME, which has allowed certain ME groups to take advantage, and furter their own goals.
Let's look at the logical progression of events...
Quran --> Muslim -->Does Terrorist act --> Happened because of Quran.
Now, if the Quran says that you will not commit something like OBL is doing, however the supposed individual (aka. Muslim), does it, then that person is not a "Muslim" to begin with.
This is where you come in Stabkill, I want you to find all verses in the Quran that incite violence towards Jews and Christians. Additionally, where does it say that killing civilians is allowed? For some brownie points, let's see if you can figure out where the 72 virgins idea started from, and the way it is intrepreted. If you are going to do this, go to a Muslim website and check them out. Post whatever you find there. I want to hear WHAT the Muslims have to say about those supposed lines you bring up.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-05-04 01:00:30 EDT (#)
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Yeah, I know it is the quran but it is THEIR "bible". As to why I said bible...
And I wouldn't fully blame their religion as many of the goverments of these nations have equal responsibility in the matter...Heck, our "allies" are the worst ones! Saudi Arabia, Pakistan, and Egypt. They get the most money from the United States and these are the people who consistantly hate us worse than those people who lived in Iraq, Iran, or Syria (who got NOTHING). Of course now Iraq does...
And I'm not going to say the US government is guilt free in this...they keep sending millions of bucks to these crummy nations, ignoring the others, and give 6 billion to Israel every year who is widely hated in the region.
Israel is stupid. They need to either leave the land, or just simply kick out all its occupants who are not jewish. And since the latter will cause a worldwide uproar, it seems common sense to just go ahead and leave those lands. Sure, they have some real fundamentalist jews who are in that land who are claiming they will fight it...but how much will they fight it when you simply say, "If you don't move, whatever the palestinians do to you is their business".
In this whole mess, it is all about "saving face" and nobody wants to look like the loser and in the meantime we are all losers.
Islam needs reform, the US government needs change (and not the democrat party or a socialist...<stares angrily at Williamson>...) and the entire world needs to lighten up European style for a bit.
Submitted by Hairsphincter (user info) at 2005-05-04 00:45:48 EDT (#)
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Judaism - Torah
Christianity - Bible
Islam - Koran
Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-05-04 00:37:23 EDT (#)
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I'll put it to you this way Stabs. This is my opinion on everyone.
Williamson opposes anybody who hurts Williamson.
Williamson opposes anybody who hurts Williamson's allies and friends.
Williamson opposes nobody else.
Thus my opposition includes many moslems who believe in global domination, BUT NOT EVERY MOSLEM. It also includes George Bush (because he fucks around with Americans, who I consider my allies and friends (as crazy as they may be)).
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-05-04 00:34:19 EDT (#)
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williamson, they appear peaceful...that's all I'm saying. You might say they are great people in some ways...hard workers, etc. But I do know that if they started lopping heads of in the streets of america and shouting allahu akbar these same "peaceful" people would do NOTHING to stop it. And this actually would encourage the behavior... (They have told me they agree with the executions in Saudi Arabia and chopping off hands because that's what their "bible" says and that's gods will...
Scary....fundamentalists of all religions. I can agree with you that there are indeed christians who are the same, merely less violent but equally wacko.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-05-04 00:31:37 EDT (#)
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If one day the leaders of Islam can actually allow other faiths in their homeland to practice openly as well as admonish the acts of terrorist bombers who kill themselves in the name of the church...I can easily accept islam as peaceful. Until then, I just call it like it is.
I heard there are areas of Islam that want major reform to avoid the behavior of the Bin Ladens of the world who use Islam to conduct terror. Of course, they are mocked and not accepted by the people who matter. It is too bad... So these may be the only true peaceful muslims I know of. The others are merely followers. I do put blame on the leaders, not average people. Just like those guy say about America, right?
Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-05-04 00:28:03 EDT (#)
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"The guy is scum as is all muslims. Peaceful ones? Blah. Piss on that bullshit. Lies...all lies"
"I talk to some pakistanis all the time here...Are they friendly? Sure. Are they peaceful? Sure."
You're kind of all over the place here Stabby.
For the record I don't defend Islam. It has some very unpeaceful teachings. As does Christianity.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-05-04 00:26:59 EDT (#)
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For the record I'm not thrilled by most any religion outside of Buddhism which tends to be pretty darn peaceful as it is more of a philosophy and way of life than praying to an actual god. (Buddha is not a god).
I believe people should have the freedom to practice any faith they choose. In Saudi Arabia this is actually illegal. I'm not sure about other muslim regions, but when they are throwing grenades in christian churches and you need armed guards at your services...yeah, there is a little bit of a problem.
Could you imagine a christian church having their holy prayer services followed by an angry sermon calling for the deaths of all those who live in Iran and Saudi Arabia? Are you oblivious to the fact that this is exactly what happens in nearly all mosques around the world, even in western countries? Calling for "holy war" against the infidels (infidels being non-believers) and saying suicide bombers are honorable people as they die to advance Islam?
You ask these "peaceful" muslims about it and they make up some whitewash story to excuse the behavior as harmless.... It is merely lies.
Submitted by Hairsphincter (user info) at 2005-05-04 00:23:27 EDT (#)
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Stabby, you are oversimplifying things, but I do get your point.
But Hitler wasn't Christian - in fact he hated their power. Bad parallel.
But yes - Islam is as violent as the other "religions of the book".
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-05-04 00:18:00 EDT (#)
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Oh, and while it may be the extremists going out and blowing stuff up... It is the "peaceful" ones who do nothing to prevent it. Islam is to submit, and that's exactly what their people do... submit to the leaders of islam who preach holy war and hatred.
Do you want to argue that islam is peaceful? You don't have to. I can agree to some extent that it CAN be and it SHOULD be, but it definitely ISN'T.
Consider Islam like germany and the leader of Islam is Hitler. That's pretty much how I see it, and until you change the way the leaders of islam think and preach....a change that can only happen by killing the leaders pretty much.... nothing will change.
Christianity had its dark times, and it has reformed and moved on...now ridiculed by intellectual elites.
Islam? currently undergoing dark times with no reform on the road ahead and ignored by most people as a real threat.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-05-04 00:05:12 EDT (#)
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I think the people are fine, the religion isn't. And if it goes unchecked, everyone is bound to suffer the consequences. And I don't see any major state governments of the area looking to reform Islam anytime soon....
Now there are probably thousands of christians in the Dafur region of Sudan who might disagree about Islam being "peaceful".
Also, the millions of women who seemingly love being treated like property have been brainwashed enough to believe it...and islam is "peaceful".
The execution videos ... Muslims are peaceful. Do you watch these things? They should allahu akbar as if they are having sexual pleasure from it after they've just killed a bunch of innocent people at a funeral or some troops passing by in a humvee.
You don't have to travel to the middle east to find muslims...they are all over. I talk to some pakistanis all the time here...Are they friendly? Sure. Are they peaceful? Sure. Are they slaves to islam who believe that the world under Islamic Sharia Law would be great? Sure.
I don't know how any "liberal" can stand muslims, yet they fight so much for them. (My view is, anyone who hates america is a friend of a liberal). These guys actually do believe we should chop hands off theives, stone women, etc.... They say it with a smile.
But hey, they can blame everything that goes wrong on them on America ...right? So that's cool. They are great people.
Submitted by Hairsphincter (user info) at 2005-05-03 23:54:25 EDT (#)
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Stabby, I lived in Dubai, UAE for three years and have some amazing friends there - Muslim, Arab Christian and Jewish. I have travelled to Lebanon, Oman, Saudi Arabia, Qatar and Syria.
While you are not completely wrong, it is *you* who needs to go and explore those lands.
You will be pleasantly surprised by how many exceptions there are.
I'm just sayin' is all...
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-05-03 23:36:10 EDT (#)
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Since everyone likes to defend "peaceful" Islam, I give you this offer: MOVE TO a country that is dominated by muslims. Oh, Saudi Arabia, Syria, Iraq, Iran, Afghanistan, Sudan, Libya, Algeria, Qatar, UAE, Indonesia, Pakistan...and a few others I have left out.
Oh...As muslims cry in the USA that they are discriminated against since they wear headscarves, lets see if muslims discriminate against you in their land. Wear a cross.
Fuck you pathetic dickheads who have no clue what the world is like outside of books written by liberal elitist snobs. It is the same 3-4 of you who constantly dribble on about "peaceful" islam with no real evidence to prove such a thing exists.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-05-03 23:31:05 EDT (#)
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williamson, the world is ignorant and while it is the "in" thing to be anti-american and accuse americans of being ignorant, it is America who is doing the things that will help everyone in the future.
Do you understand islam? Do you know it is their goal to have the world under islam? World domination stuff... not from the USA, but from your muslim buddies you want to defend.
Muslims are dogs. No...Muslims are worse than dogs. Why would I insult dogs by equating muslims with them?
A true muslim also hates animals... Take that one, PETA.
Of course, I've only been to Iraq & Kuwait rather than watch it on TV. Fuck the muslims, they are worthless and their religion is twisted and evil.
Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-04-29 21:03:08 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-04-29 19:03:23 (#)
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Istaros ... there was no setup.
I was there when this happened, and I had no less than 3 people (who didn't know each other) each tell me "I thought it might have been YOU!" which was kinda funny. Of course, they showed pictured of a bald headed dude in custody and I am known for violating the rules by keeping my hair as long as possible....so immediately, they knew it wasn't me.
The guy is scum as is all muslims. Peaceful ones? Blah. Piss on that bullshit. Lies...all lies.
Let me ask you a question...when hoof and mouth disease is found in a pig farm, what do they do? They kill ALL the pigs. When they find the asian bird flu in a chicken coop what do they do? They kill all the chickens.
Well...muslims are no different. They are a disease as well, and killing them all would not leave me saddened in the least bit. The world WOULD be better off. Anyone who disputes this is a liar.
No muslims all of a sudden and that is one less problem the world faces... You could try to say the same and "kill all americans" of course that would also lead to collapse of mexico & canada and, basically, the entire planets economies. Kill all the muslims and things are all of a sudden good...
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Interesting plan... We need to give such a stroke of genius a name though...
How 'bout we call it "The Final Solution"?
I too, believe that society works better in homogeny. If everyone was the same race/religion/creed the world would be a better place. However to create a society like that you must either seperate two distinct groups or kill one off. Neither one is moral. What you are basically proposing is nazism's solution tocreate ein volk.
I personally see no moral problem to apartheid on basis of religion, if push came to shove. Mixing two volatile beliefs together is just plain dangerous and it's sometimes better to seperate to fighting children from eachother than to expect them to get along. As unfortunate as it may be it is the only way in some (very few, but some) cases. But to simply kill one of the groups. To genocide. This kind of thinking is what's pissing off 10,000 AlQaeda members in the first place.
Greed, corruption, destruction of the environment is rampant in the west, especially America. Is your solution to that to kill all Americans and westerners?
In conclusion, you're why the world hates America.
Submitted by ChronicMasturbator (user info) at 2005-04-29 20:30:20 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-04-29 19:03:23 (#)
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Istaros ... there was no setup.
I was there when this happened, and I had no less than 3 people (who didn't know each other) each tell me "I thought it might have been YOU!" which was kinda funny. Of course, they showed pictured of a bald headed dude in custody and I am known for violating the rules by keeping my hair as long as possible....so immediately, they knew it wasn't me.
The guy is scum as is all muslims. Peaceful ones? Blah. Piss on that bullshit. Lies...all lies.
Let me ask you a question...when hoof and mouth disease is found in a pig farm, what do they do? They kill ALL the pigs. When they find the asian bird flu in a chicken coop what do they do? They kill all the chickens.
Well...muslims are no different. They are a disease as well, and killing them all would not leave me saddened in the least bit. The world WOULD be better off. Anyone who disputes this is a liar.
No muslims all of a sudden and that is one less problem the world faces... You could try to say the same and "kill all americans" of course that would also lead to collapse of mexico & canada and, basically, the entire planets economies. Kill all the muslims and things are all of a sudden good...
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You are overlooking one fact. He is a member of the NoI.
I digress....
His action was dishonorable. I hope he gets a death penalty.
Stabkill, remember that each civilization made their contributions to this earth. Islam has made it's own. If you were educated enough (which I doubt, because you sound like a fuck-up who joined the Military), you would understand that what extremists are doing this day are contradictory of the Quran.
You want US to solve "Islamic" Extremism? All you need to do is pressure all ME countries to set upa formal education system with a seperation of Religion and State. Illiteracy is OBL's best friend.
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2005-04-29 19:26:28 EDT (#)
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haha. I love it when Stabby criticises other people for being violent.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-04-29 19:03:23 EDT (#)
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Istaros ... there was no setup.
I was there when this happened, and I had no less than 3 people (who didn't know each other) each tell me "I thought it might have been YOU!" which was kinda funny. Of course, they showed pictured of a bald headed dude in custody and I am known for violating the rules by keeping my hair as long as possible....so immediately, they knew it wasn't me.
The guy is scum as is all muslims. Peaceful ones? Blah. Piss on that bullshit. Lies...all lies.
Let me ask you a question...when hoof and mouth disease is found in a pig farm, what do they do? They kill ALL the pigs. When they find the asian bird flu in a chicken coop what do they do? They kill all the chickens.
Well...muslims are no different. They are a disease as well, and killing them all would not leave me saddened in the least bit. The world WOULD be better off. Anyone who disputes this is a liar.
No muslims all of a sudden and that is one less problem the world faces... You could try to say the same and "kill all americans" of course that would also lead to collapse of mexico & canada and, basically, the entire planets economies. Kill all the muslims and things are all of a sudden good...
Submitted by Nobb (user info) at 2005-04-29 18:48:40 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Istaros (user info) at 2005-04-29 16:11:17 EDT (#)
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maybe i'm just insane, but this sounds set up. as in, VERY set up.
Submitted by peckerhead (user info) at 2005-04-29 10:41:11 EDT (#)
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Just read over the excellent comments below. Good post.
Submitted by Mario (user info) at 2005-04-29 10:24:11 EDT (#)
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I knew CPT Seifert, he was attached to the 101st as an engineer. He was a really great guy, good officer. That punk motherfucker back-stabber Akbar deserves a fate worse than slow, painful death. I'd love to shove a bangalore up his ass and detonate it, because of my "concern that he may harm other Christians". What a crock of shit.
Submitted by MickGinny (user info) at 2005-04-29 09:24:10 EDT (#)
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1. Why would you take a severely religious Muslim to Iraq? I would think to put him back at home, not tear it apart.
Well, I would say a muslim zealot is just as dangerous as the small minded soldiers that want to kill muslims just because they ARE muslims.
2. Couldn't they let him shoot up shit in some other place for a while? Maybe Guam? What about Texas?
Oklahoma. Send all the whacks to OK.
3. Is that the only place to send a mat-prayer - to shoot at his spiritual brethren? Can't we detect a smidge of issue here
Americans don't think exactly along those lines when it comes to war. Remember, american christian germans killed quite a lot of christian germans 50 odd years ago...
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-04-29 09:15:25 EDT (#)
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war is l33t!
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2005-04-29 08:56:33 EDT (#)
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charming isn't it
Submitted by freebie (user info) at 2005-04-29 08:45:59 EDT (#)
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Islam, the religion of peace. Believe it or I keel you,ayayayayayaa...(blows self up)
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-04-29 08:22:20 EDT (#)
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Well I think there would have been much more public outcry if they did try and remove him from his position because he was Muslim. Also there are plenty of Muslim Americans serving in Iraq, and they don't go nuts. It wasn't like he was preaching to people about how America is the great Satan, or that Muslim lives were more important than AMericans. He knew what he was going to do for a long time, and kept his beliefs about going into Iraq to himself so he could carry out his plan.
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2005-04-29 06:07:00 EDT (#)
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americans are stoopid
Submitted by Wazza (user info) at 2005-04-29 04:12:23 EDT (#)
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I would have take off his salary,......then shoot the bastard.
Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-04-29 03:55:48 EDT (#)
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"Sorry, I really struggle with this whole war concept. It just seems that people just get smooshed all over the place."
I can understand it. People fight don't they? Just think that times a million.
War shouldn't be a justification to kill. Then again murder during peace isn't necessarily unjustified. You can't look at war with the belief in right and wrong, good and evil. You just have to think "them" and "us". In the complexity that is human nature there will be times when one individual or group feels offended/uncomfortable by the existance/actions of another individual or group.
I've never been a believer in "the best way to solve things is to talk" ideology. War can be the only answer sometimes. Not that I believe so in this Iraq war however. C'est La Vie, I'm afraid.
Submitted by Banga3386 (user info) at 2005-04-29 03:52:33 EDT (#)
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Fuck that psuedo-dune coon, sand nigger. He should be executed with a ten gun line; blind fold, cigarette and all. Even in the Muslim religion, what he did was execute innocents; they weren't enemies of Islam (yet) plus he didn't die so there are no virgins for that camel fucking shit eater. Fuck that guy.
You know what, here's the solution to what to do with all enemy POWs; just put them in general population in say Riker's Island, somewhere in Texas, or wherever Shawshank Redemption was based off of. You will have you justice there. Just think, Osama Bin Laden in general population with the Black, White, Spanish supremists, as well as the extreme Christians, Jews, and other Muslims that hate him. We wouldn't need to spend the money to execute him, the prisoners would do it for us.
Not only that, but they would drag it out long enought that every group has a go at him, the only time every hate group in America would be working together (hey, they are happy, let them go). The best part would the money we could raise from airing the entire thing on T.V. with sponsors galore: Pepsi handcuffs, Apple orange jump suits, Remmington rifles (odviously, and for the guards to make sure he doesn't die so easily), and Craftsman sandpaper (oh so many uses). I love my country.
Banga
Submitted by Tom (user info) at 2005-04-29 03:18:32 EDT (#)
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"He is a hate-filled, ideologically driven murderer,"
He says as his nation is at war. Honestly, under no circumstances should war be an acceptable means to getting what you need or protecting yourself. We built the fucking pyramids a long ass time ago without cranes and airlifting shit. I think world peace shouldn't be as impossible as the war mongers say it is. Just a bunch of fucing wild violent shitheads.
To all those who create war, strife, Jihad or whatever your violent bullshit 'defenses' are, lick my big hairy pacifist balls. You all suck at life.
Submitted by Rawrg (user info) at 2005-04-29 03:09:51 EDT (#)
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I remember that story. That happened a while back. Sgt. Nutty McNutBar.
On a side note: What's with all the Bowling for Columbinesque gun bashing these days? I own 3 guns myself and plan on owning more, but I'm not going to kill anyone with them for anything short of raping my child.
If I go completely batshit and feel like some genocide I don't need a gun to kill several people. Imagine what a guy in a confined space of unarmed people could do with a samurai sword? IE: the terrorists on the 9/11 planes with boxcutters. Or I could just juggernaut my truck into a Panera during lunchtime. Think beyond what the pundits pump in your head.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-04-29 03:08:39 EDT (#)
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Cite that source, sword.
Submitted by sword (user info) at 2005-04-29 02:56:22 EDT (#)
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Actually we have more firearms then citizens here in America