PETA at it again (1700 hits)
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Submitted by <veritatislocutor.at.netscape.net> (View user info) at 2003-04-24 10:01:59 EDT
The People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals offered the town of Hamburg, NY $15,000 worth of vegetarian patties if they would change their name to "Veggieburg."
From the letter to the Hamburg town supervisor:
"I am writing on behalf of People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals (PETA) and our 750,000 members and supporters, as well as all kind and health-conscious Americans, to ask that you seriously ponder the question, "What's in a name?"
In the case of Hamburg, believed by many to be the birthplace of the hamburger, the town's name conjures up visions of unhealthy patties of ground-up dead cows.
Names are important, especially when times and attitudes change. That's why we're asking Hamburg, whose motto is "the town that friendship built," to change its name to something with positive connotations—Veggieburg! Every year, millions of hamburger-eaters are sickened by killers like heart disease, cancer, stroke, diabetes, and other ailments—and more and more American kids who are fed hamburgers, pepperoni pizza, and hot dogs are waddling into obesity. That's hardly friendly! The American Medical Association notes that overweight children who become obese adults are at greater risk for the early development of conditions such as cardiovascular disease and diabetes mellitus...Hamburgers aren't friendly to animals, either. Millions of cows are raised on factory farms and jam-packed, muck-filled feedlots and cruelly slaughtered by hurried and harried slaughterhouse workers who hack body parts off an alarmingly high number of fully conscious animals....
(http://www.peta.org/news/NewsItem.asp?id=2208)
How absurd can you get?
Because they believe meat-eating is evil, they want a town called "Hamburg" to change it's name because they don't like hamburgers.
Do these people have even a single functioning brain cell among them?
Ground beef or "chop meat" is called "hamburger (steak)" after the city of Hamburg in GERMANY, not New York. Hamburg, NY was named by German immigrants after that ancient Hanseatic port. Hamburg, Germany, was so-named because it was originally a walled fortress town (Burg) near a thicket of trees (Ham), not because it produced ground beef patties. What next? Will they ask any number of towns called "Frankfurt" to change their names because of the association with hot dogs?
Of course, this is the same gaggle of history-challenged morons who wanted Fishkill, NY to change its name to "Fishsave," apparently unaware that "kill" was the Dutch word for "stream."
Retards.
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Submitted by bargled (user info) at 2003-09-29 23:57:25 EDT (#)
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Attn PETA:
I eat ~3000 calories a day (a lot of it from meat like hamburgers/hotdogs/etc) and I only weigh 135 pounds.
Then again, I run instead of plopping my ass on the couch and watching TV all day. Maybe these PETA assholes should lobby for a new law requiring all obese fucktards to run a mile in the morning and a mile at night, then we'll start to see some change.
Submitted by atz (user info) at 2003-08-24 20:49:40 EDT (#)
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$15,000? That's it?
Submitted by Lady_Emily_03 (user info) at 2003-08-24 20:38:08 EDT (#)
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Stupid, stupid PETA. Maddox has it all correct when he writes about them.
Submitted by Semi_Random_Joe (user info) at 2003-08-24 19:52:47 EDT (#)
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PETA know exactly where the name Hamburg comes from, but they like to carry out high-profile stunts like this to make people think, and it works. Everybody has heard of PETA. Vegetarians have higher average IQs than meat eaters.
Submitted by GenocideTickles (user info) at 2003-04-25 02:33:35 EDT (#)
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I refrain from eating meat. This is not for any moral or "ethical" reasons. I refrain from eating meat because the way it is produced. It is the flesh of animals (which doesn't bother me in the slightest), but the fact that the animals are mass produced (not an ethical problem for me) does raise the issue of quality control. This coupled with the fact that they are loaded with steriods, growth hormones, and are nasty drugs, keeps me from eating most meat.
This not to say I am a vegetarian. I thoruougly enjoy free range or indepedently raised chicken or other animals. I eat fish (cause the vast majority of it is caught, not raised) and other sea food. Oh and Kobe beef, if you can afford it, its quite good. They cows are hand raised on a diet consisting largely of barley and beer and are massaged regularly. I believe some farms even go as far as to read the cows Haiku on a regular basis. You can taste the difference (hopefully its not from the Haiku).
If you're going to be a vegetarian, do it for your own reasons. Not to say a bunch of animals. All that lives was born to die.
Submitted by Kasarius (user info) at 2003-04-25 01:19:50 EDT (#)
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Firefly, I also don't eat meat.
As for PETA, they were fine back when it was actually about animal rights and welfare, but for them it's become a huge publicity stunt. They showboat people like P!nk and Good Charlotte, just proof that they'd rather attract people by making them think vegetarianism is a fad. There isn't much that pisses me off more than people who are vegetarians because they like the social appeal of it (I suppose people who are vegetarians to lose weight are worse in my mind).
Simply because people have incisors and canines does not mean they were made for meat. Other animals having incisiform canines include sheep, elk, bison, caribou and cattle, where they use them to deal with fibrous vegetation. Amongst primates, incisiform canines are found in Lemurs, the larger of which eat herbivore-frugivore diets, although some species do include insects. Human anatomy has been proven, in fact, to be best based towards a herbivorus diet; simply because the ability to consume exists doesn't mean the necessity also exists. People could eat cardboard if they so pleased but that does not mean it is essential or even beneficial (isn't there someone who holds the World Record for eating metal who ate a biplane, piece by piece?).
I would argue the other points, but I'm tired and want to go to bed. Maybe tomorrow.
Submitted by Quartermain (user info) at 2003-04-25 00:14:39 EDT (#)
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Tina-being able to spit venom would kick ass. There would be so many blind people in Minneapolis, though, so maybe it's not such a good thing(I can be a little short-tempered)
Other things that would be cool:
Retractable claws...like cats have
Bat ears, or failing that, some kind of radar sense or something
Eagle eyes for the vision
Snake eyes just because snake eyes look badass
Submitted by Beer_bong (user info) at 2003-04-24 20:39:00 EDT (#)
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P: People
E: Eating
T: Tasty
A: Animals
Submitted by Random Joe at 2003-04-24 20:27:41 EDT (#)
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"PETA is actually funded by the meat industry to make vegetarians look like jackasses."
Submitted by DarthAwesome (user info) at 2003-04-24 18:08:58 EDT (#)
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They saved my life from the pilgrims. Gobble gobble, *peck* *flap*
Darth Turkey
Submitted by dlc51761 (user info) at 2003-04-24 17:29:19 EDT (#)
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Meat does a body good. Why do you think we have canines and inscisors? They aren't there for eating green beans. Vegitarians should have all of their teeth replace with cow teeth.
Submitted by Titinita (user info) at 2003-04-24 17:17:40 EDT (#)
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Not anymore.
Submitted by Titinita (user info) at 2003-04-24 17:14:00 EDT (#)
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I feel bad for saying bite me. :(
Submitted by precious_roy (user info) at 2003-04-24 17:11:03 EDT (#)
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Tina,
That's Dane Cook you're talking about. "SUCK MY BACK!" Hilarious.
Submitted by Titinita (user info) at 2003-04-24 17:07:14 EDT (#)
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I was talking to Quartermain and Partholon. Not that it is any of your damn business. My comments are short. Don't read if they bother you so much. Other people like them. So bite me.
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2003-04-24 17:04:53 EDT (#)
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How do they come up with this stuff? I was sitting here thinking, hmm do you think that one single person who drove by that billboard gave up eating pork? So what is the point? Do they intentionally do this extreme bullshit just to make things like not wearing fur mainstream?
Like say you are sitting at your desk at work and its cold. If you go outside and get really cold, then come back in, you would think you were warm wouldn't you?
Oh hell I dunno, these people are nuts and I notice that no one has exactly spoken up for them here.
Submitted by Vantes (user info) at 2003-04-24 17:03:51 EDT (#)
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Goddamn Titinita, stfu. You just made like 10 posts in a row in response to nothing. It's like your mind was using this board as a dump for erroneous thought strings.
Submitted by Partholon (user info) at 2003-04-24 16:57:24 EDT (#)
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I went to http://jesusveg.com and I must say I'm disgusted. I'm a Christian (of sorts), and this kind of bullshit skeeves me.
Yeshuah ate fish and hung out with fisherman. Also, since he was a Jew, he had to have eaten lamb at least once a year.
Submitted by Titinita (user info) at 2003-04-24 16:48:15 EDT (#)
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Is your name Japanese? I left my dictionary at home, else I woulda looked it up. :)
Submitted by Fuunsaiki (user info) at 2003-04-24 16:46:16 EDT (#)
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Just recently PETA ask the city of Des Moines,IA to put of a billboard.(I live in IA so I know this). The billboard read: "They died for you sins, Go Vegitarian" It had a picture of a pig to the right in a heaven lookin environment with jesusveg.com at the bottom.
Now, as I sat and poundered who, at the PETA hq or whatever they have for a place to meet, thought of this idea and accually expected, Iowa being the state that produces the most pork to accually put this up? Now I know there is freedom of speech but when you start referring to the bible in a way that idiotic. I was offended being I'm atheist by this board. Billboards are also approved or disapproved by one company and then is ok'ed by the city.
Next thing is PETA accually had the balls to call us a bunch of low lifes and the city is run by a bunch of wealthy hog producers. I came to laugh at that remark in a sence that if you wanna get wealthy, hogs sure as hell isn't the way to do it. So PETA basiclly ran with their tail between their legs and crying as they went.
Lastly, being atheist but still having decency to know that you don't do shit like that. Pigs aren't gods and they sure as hell didn't die for any sins unless some guy beats another guy to death with a pork roast lol. I sure as hell don't feel guilty eating one either. Porkburger anyone?
Submitted by Titinita (user info) at 2003-04-24 16:27:44 EDT (#)
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Hey, you cut in line! *rattlerattlerattle*
Bitch, what you gonna do about it?
*Hiss!Spit!Hiss!*
Ahhh! My eyes!! They burn!!
Then I fly away with my food.
Submitted by Titinita (user info) at 2003-04-24 16:21:00 EDT (#)
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Ooh ooh ooh ooh. I want to spit venom! Remember that dude on Comedy Central talking about how he wanted to be able to spit venom like the aliens on Alien? And I want a rattle too, to warn people.
Submitted by Quartermain (user info) at 2003-04-24 16:15:46 EDT (#)
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I always thought fangs would be impressive. Or a forked tongue. I'd be the happiest person earth if I had a forked tongue, well..second happiest anyways.
Submitted by Titinita (user info) at 2003-04-24 15:51:10 EDT (#)
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I can pick stuff up too, but not like a monkey. Ooh, I want bat wings. Or at least flaps like a flying squirrel so I can glide around from tree to tree.
Submitted by Quartermain (user info) at 2003-04-24 15:46:14 EDT (#)
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I can already pick stuff up with my feet without thumbs. Tails would kick ass, though. Be pretty handy. Give a whole new meaning to the phrase 'chasing tail' though.
Submitted by Partholon (user info) at 2003-04-24 15:30:02 EDT (#)
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We used to have both of those, and I--at least--have some success grasping things with my feet. It used to come in very handy on dates!
Anyway, what with genetic engineering and all, presumably we will be able to create people like that.
Disturbing, isn't it?
Submitted by Titinita (user info) at 2003-04-24 15:30:02 EDT (#)
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Maybe I could invent a way to attach thumbs to feet. Then we'd have to wear special wide shoes. And if we had tails we'd have to have holes in our pants. Unless it would be indecent to wear them out. Maybe it would become a sexual part like boobies. Girls could "show a little tail" cleavage and get guys goin'. I'd wrap mine around my waist.
Submitted by Titinita (user info) at 2003-04-24 15:26:14 EDT (#)
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Maybe we are shaped this way so animals don't want to eat us. There really isn't that much to eat. At least on me. Not much at all.
I would love a thumb on my foot like a monkey so I could pick stuff up without bending over. And a tail. That would kick ass.
Submitted by Partholon (user info) at 2003-04-24 15:26:02 EDT (#)
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There are certainly continuities of intelligence, and it's not limited along species lines. I'm convinced that my beagles, for instance, are more intelligent that a certain political figure whose name begins with "B-" and ends with "-ush."
But, that's not point. According to the law of nature, if I can kill something, I can eat it, and vice versa. Only between humans--because of the social contract--can I not kill another person and eat him.
Presumably, however, if my beagles could kill a certain political figure, they would be welcome to eat him.
Submitted by Partholon (user info) at 2003-04-24 15:21:57 EDT (#)
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If they admit that most animals are not sentient, then that should end the debate. You can't have rights if you're not a sentient being.
Submitted by Titinita (user info) at 2003-04-24 15:20:17 EDT (#)
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Birds have feelings. Depressed parrots pluck their own feathers out. And my cats get sad when I leave. My cats love me. But if I died...I bet they would eat me when they realized I wasn't going to fill their food bowl. Bastards. Unless...I eat them first...hmmm....
Submitted by Titinita (user info) at 2003-04-24 15:18:14 EDT (#)
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I have heard the remark that we are no better than animals. So then why do we have the moral obligation to abstain from eating other animals when they get to? I think animals have emotions, but there is a food chain. God invented the food chain after Adam and Eve got kicked out of Eden.
Anyone remember the Simpson's Bible stories episode?
"Uh...I think we should see other people." HAHAHA.
Submitted by Nicole3 (user info) at 2003-04-24 15:17:58 EDT (#)
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I don't believe PETA thinks most animals are sentient though I could be wrong. I thought it was pretty well established by science that most animals except maybe come apes/monkeys and dolphins are not sensient. I thought for a being to be sensient it had to be conscious of its own existance, but the definition reads "1. having sense perception; conscious. 2. Experiencing sensation or feeling." The definition is kind of vague.
Submitted by sendmehatemail (user info) at 2003-04-24 15:17:55 EDT (#)
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hack body parts....yes...yes.......yyeeesssss...
err.... +2 cause peta is funny... i should start my own peta
Pet
Eating
Tard
Apes
Submitted by Partholon (user info) at 2003-04-24 15:01:13 EDT (#)
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Well, it all comes down to "physe" and "techne." Anything that has been influenced at all by a rationally sentient being--as most Homo sapiens (Homines sapientes?) are assumed to be--is "techne," and therefore not natural. Our intellegence and ability to technologically alter our environment--as in, using cow's milk as a source of protein and calcium and a tasty cold beverage and vital cooking ingredient--is our evolutionary advantage, the thing that allows us to out-compete anything in our niche and to reproduce ourselves, establishing our species as the dominant one. Our intereference with nature, therefore, is natural. Furthermore, the laws of nature dictate that if we do not exploit our advantages--such as technology--we will no longer be dominant, and in nature it is "Kill or be killed."
Also, we are omnivores. We have sharp pointy teeth for the ripping and tearing of flesh just as we have flat teeth for the grinding of vegetables. Humans have eaten meat for as long as we have existed, and all of our closest evolutionary relatives eat meat.
That should be the end of the argument.
Submitted by firefly (user info) at 2003-04-24 14:21:55 EDT (#)
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i guess i ma the only one who does not eat meat on this site. but still i agree. i hate peta. i really hate them.
Submitted by Istaros <archon_templar.at.hotmail.com> at 2003-04-24 13:14:12 EDT (#)
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I'm fairly certain that the hamburger was "invented" in some town in Texas... I'm unable to remember the name, though.
All this talk about nature, natural, returning to nature, allowing nature to run its course... Pf. Heard it before, and it still makes as much sense now as it did then, which was not much. I don't know where people get the idea that humans are somehow mirculously UNnatural. What was it about that one ape mutation that caused its baby chimp to no longer be "natural?" Or, since some people seem to think ancient human civilizations behaved "naturally," the question should probably be, what do people think these ancient civilizations did that caused their actions to desist from natural behavior? How is that these same people can dictate what is and is not "natural," and yet be so fervently against natural processes?
In case you're wondering what that last bit was about, look at a vegan's diet. The last thing on their mind is eating food that they would consider "natural." Protein and Vitamin D extraction processes do not occur in "nature;" you need machines, electricity, petrol, time, funds, and labor to get the job done. Personally, I don't think there's such a thing as an "unnatural" phenomenon, with the exception of things like God; however, these people are always bitching about doing what's "natural," without being willing to admit that their lives are almost entirely made up of "artificial" phenomena.
As for equating turkey farms with the Holocaust, that's their prerogative. Personally, I think it's rather idiotic behavior, but you should try to see it from their perspective before you criticize it. For two reasons 1) you're mind will be expanded by being able to delve into the mind of a looney, and 2) you'll be able to criticize them all the more effectively. We're not talking about people to whom common sense is a primary virtue; the goal of these people is to live in kindness, not knowledge(although they often do fancy themselves to be more enlightened than your run-of-the-mill physicist/nutriotonist/mathematician/English professor/artist). And to these people, animals are just as alive and sentient as humans. So, when they compare Farmer Joe's chicken coop, that he took 5 years to get up and running well enough to make a profit off of the eggs, to a death camp, it's not only a valid assertion in their minds, it's a necessary one.
That doesn't make it any less pathetic, however.
Submitted by streetpunk (user info) at 2003-04-24 13:07:18 EDT (#)
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Yeah, I had heard it else where to. I wasn't suggesting that you ripped him off, more like I was in your spotlight. You made the joke first. I wasn't trying to step on your toes or get up on your kool-aid. Yehaw.
Submitted by Nicole3 (user info) at 2003-04-24 13:05:35 EDT (#)
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Loren - sorry, it seemed like CC was thinking that once a heifer has a calf it would continue to produce milk indefinately without human intervention. If you were invisible people would still have no problem noticing you because you are so damn loud.
Submitted by Loren1 (user info) at 2003-04-24 12:54:27 EDT (#)
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I meant an account, ahh whatever, you know what I meant...
Submitted by Loren1 (user info) at 2003-04-24 12:53:48 EDT (#)
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Ummmm Nicole, my dear, am I invisible today?
CC - get a user name, you sound pretty cool ;-)
Loren
Submitted by Nicole3 (user info) at 2003-04-24 12:40:45 EDT (#)
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Random CC - The point is that if we allowed nature to take its course, after having the calf, the milk would dry up naturally. The body is really good at adjusting milk production to the need. The more a calf nurses, the more prolactin is produced in the teat. The increase in prolactin then causes more milk production, up to a point of course. Once the suckling stops, prolactin is no longer produced and the milk dries up. The cows that are bred for milk production just have a higher prolactin/milk production limit. They would dry up just like other cows. PETA objects because you aren't allowing cows to behave naturally in their natural environment. Of course if you let them go in the wild, they would probably end up dieing, but they tend to ignore that.
Personally, I have no problem with eating milk, eggs, meat. Actually, those would have to be my favorite food groups.
Submitted by Partholon (user info) at 2003-04-24 12:22:15 EDT (#)
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I think Mr. Max and I got the line from the same source. I think I heard it from Robin Williams, of all people.
Submitted by precious_roy (user info) at 2003-04-24 12:17:11 EDT (#)
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"Every time they (PETA) speak up, I kill a dozen of something just for them. And then I give the meat to a homeless shelter." - Ted Nugent
Submitted by streetpunk (user info) at 2003-04-24 12:13:33 EDT (#)
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Sorry Parth. I wasn't trying to steal your sunshine
Submitted by streetpunk (user info) at 2003-04-24 12:11:59 EDT (#)
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"If we are not supposed to eat animals, then why are they made of meat?"
-Tucker Max
Submitted by Partholon (user info) at 2003-04-24 12:08:25 EDT (#)
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Hooray! Titinita is back! Perhaps now all the drink_ddt bullshit can be put behind us? I'm sick of hearing about that fucker.
Also: If God didn't want us to eat animals, He wouldn't have made them out of meat.
Submitted by turveytopsy (user info) at 2003-04-24 11:57:39 EDT (#)
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All I have to say is if PETA has a problem with Hamburg
They would also probly have a problem with Cowpen AL, Crab Orchard NE, or Beaver Mill ID... Sheesh...
Submitted by CC at 2003-04-24 11:53:48 EDT (#)
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Is it not natural for a cow to have a calf?
I recognize the point made, and acknowledge it. My main point is that milk is good, cheese is better, and ice cream is the shit, and there was no pain involved in the process! Bwaha!
Ahh shit, I got beef juice all over my keyboard.
Back to the slaughterhouses!
Submitted by Loren1 (user info) at 2003-04-24 11:44:17 EDT (#)
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Nicole is right. First of all, a cow won't produce milk until she's had a calf. (It's like saying that a girl goes through puberty and starts making milk, not the way it works.) If let's say, the calf died, in nature, the cow would "dry up" - when people wean a calf away from it's mother, they continue to milk it, that's why she continues to produce it. It's not natural - cows aren't milk machines - they're manipulated into being them.
However, on a lighter side, I used to work on a farm for years when I was a kid, milking cows, the whole nine yards. They (the cows) really don't mind being milked at all, one of them used to love it, she would get a really dreamy look in her eyes... it was kinda cute. Then we slaughtered her and had a BBQ.
j/k j/k
Loren
Submitted by Quartermain (user info) at 2003-04-24 11:43:58 EDT (#)
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***PETA approaches the problem of animal abuse in all the wrong ways. Unfortunately, I can't think of a good way to approach the problem.*** From behind, just ask any hillbilly.
Salad is not food. Salad is what food eats. There are very few things in this world better than a big-ass steak, cooked Cajun style, when its still all rare and bloody and red in the middle. Add a loaded down baked potato and a pint of Guinness or Harp and it's a thing of beauty.
And on an entirely unrelated note, it's been what 10-15 years since Quayle's little potato/potatoe thing? People still make jokes about it, he's never going to live it down.
Submitted by Random CC at 2003-04-24 11:33:14 EDT (#)
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but either way about it, the cow is still going to produce milk, be it a gallon a day for Borden, or a gallon a day for its calves. Regardless, milk is a product which the cow will produce anyway, despite how many do or don't drink it. The amount will change, but to say drinking milk is immoral (imo) is the same as saying eating unfertilized chicken eggs is immoral. It's shit. On a sidenote, I think I read it on Maddox, saying something to the extent that being a cow raised for beef wouldn't be so bad: You're born, you get pumped full of steroids your whole life, and then right in your prime you're executed without pain.
Not quite true, but intersting nonetheless.
Submitted by tartpumper (user info) at 2003-04-24 11:32:19 EDT (#)
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Actually, breeding cows in strange ways has made them produce LOADS of milk so it does hurt them.
Submitted by Nicole3 (user info) at 2003-04-24 11:27:24 EDT (#)
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Random CC, think about it for a second. It would hurt the cow if you had been milking it for years and then suddenly stopped. Its teats would become engorged because its body would still be producing the high level of milk it thinks it needs to provide to its young. After a few weeks, though, it would go back to normal. The same thing happens with breastfeeding mothers. If you never milked the cow in the first place, it they wouldn't become engorged as they would be producing the correct amount of milk.
Submitted by Kaelic (user info) at 2003-04-24 11:21:38 EDT (#)
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Wow, I don't even know where my own name comes from. Where'd you find that, Tina? E-mail me at scarletranger.at.yahoo.com. I don't want to derail this thread.
Submitted by Random Catscradle at 2003-04-24 11:19:57 EDT (#)
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Meanwhile, if there is a God, you know he's up in Heaven shootin the breeze with Shakespeare and shaking his head in disbelief thinking,
"Man, I give these humans ridiculously docile animals who are plump with juicy meat and the schmucks won't even eat them? Where the hell did I go wrong??"
Vegetarians... heh. They love animals but eat all their food, etc. I am not vegetarian but if it floats your boat, so be it.
P.S.: The worst are the ones who won't drink/eat dairy products on ethical grounds - do these people know that it HURTS a cow NOT to be milked?
That is all.
Submitted by Titinita (user info) at 2003-04-24 11:06:38 EDT (#)
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I found it. It is a Celtic name from Brittany.
Mikael - (MEE-kael, MEE-kel) Breton from of Michael. Kaelic (KAEL-eek, KEL-eek).
I love Celtic names.
Submitted by Raimee (user info) at 2003-04-24 11:03:33 EDT (#)
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I can't beleive it. Some people are just die hard for certain causes. i used to be a full fledge
vegetarian from age 15-17, then when i went away to college i turned vegan. Well guess what i got really really sick and also gained a lot of weight cause i became a carb addict. Now i love meat,mmmmmmm chicken/steak/lamb/everything. I also turned away from vegetarianism/veganism because i saw that a lot of people around my age just wanted to fit into some kind of clique almost, rather than really understand why people are vegetarians/vegans. They turn the fact that they don't eat meat/animal products into a freaking lifestyle from everything to the car they drive, the clothes they wear and this is sick to sometimes even the music they listen to. i just don't get that part of it at all. Also vegan/vegetarianism can become a very expensive way of living. I don't know if anyone has noticed but organic food is Very expensive. Anyways,i still can;t beleive that someone would do that. Thanks for the interesting post.
Submitted by Vantes (user info) at 2003-04-24 11:03:00 EDT (#)
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Here's something worth checking out:
http://maddox.xmission.com/hatemail.cgi#PETA
Maddox strikes again.
Submitted by DarthFaded (user info) at 2003-04-24 10:59:57 EDT (#)
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I swear I hate PETA so much. Damn them to hell
Submitted by Titinita (user info) at 2003-04-24 10:59:04 EDT (#)
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Kaelic is your name Irish?
Submitted by Kaelic (user info) at 2003-04-24 10:56:19 EDT (#)
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I'll have to look for it on-line or get it resent to me; it's something my mom mailed to me a while back, but I'll see what I can do, for sure.
Submitted by Immure (user info) at 2003-04-24 10:51:10 EDT (#)
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Wow, never heard that about soy before. I've had soy cheese before it looks a little "off" to me, it tastes ok, but not quite right. I'd rather have real cheese. Also meat is good for you, that is where most people get their protein. I know a few vegitarians that don't eat very well at all, Just becuase you don't eat meat doesn't make you healthier.
Submitted by antluvdog (user info) at 2003-04-24 10:49:50 EDT (#)
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Kaelic - can you send me the full text of that article? I want to send it to a few of my stark-raving mad vegetarian friends. I'd also like to send it to Maddox - it would be funny to see him follow up that PETA post he did with that soy information.
Submitted by precious_roy (user info) at 2003-04-24 10:30:53 EDT (#)
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Damn kaelic. That's some scary shit. I honestly have never heard that. Not cool at all.
Last night I was at the grocery store and came across some soy cheese. How the fuck do you make soy CHEESE? If its that versatile, it can't be good. Kinda like the stuff Krusty Burgers are made of.
Submitted by Kaelic (user info) at 2003-04-24 10:28:45 EDT (#)
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"Something has to be done to help our children," warns Dr. Berkowitz of The Children's Hospital of Philadelphia and the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine in Philadelphia. "Type 2 diabetes (non-insulin dependent diabetes) is primarily related to people being overweight," says Dr. Berkowitz. "I never saw type 2 diabetes in children 20 years ago, and now the National Institutes of Health is awarding grants to study the phenomena."
Oh, also, 20 years ago I'm pretty sure, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure children were eating hamburgers. So we can pretty much rule out cruelty-filled hamburgers as the source of type 2 diabetes. Maybe get those fat-ass kids off the sofa, and get them to exercise, instead of just running down to pizza hut. Dumb fucks.
Submitted by tartpumper (user info) at 2003-04-24 10:26:11 EDT (#)
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Wow. You learn soemthing new everyday. haha
Submitted by antluvdog (user info) at 2003-04-24 10:24:48 EDT (#)
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Kaelic - interesting points.
Submitted by Kaelic (user info) at 2003-04-24 10:21:00 EDT (#)
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Actually, as I understand, soy is more dangerous than meat ever could be. Soy consumption in infants is like taking the estrogen pill, x5. It's been linked to premature development of sex characteristics in infant children, along with the deterioration of mental function in the elderly. In fact, with all this hyped up crap about how great soy is, no one realizes that the ancient asians had already recognized it for it's full worth ... they didn't eat soy at all, they simply used it's root for crop nitration, a way to put nitrogen back into the soil during crop rotation. That's it. They didn't eat it; they recognized the dangers.
The appeal of soy to corporations is the cheapness with which they can use, and produce products made from soy. Look in just about anything you eat, and you will find soybean oil, soy protein. Soy lecithin. The trick to the way they market soy is to claim numerous health benefits, make soy seem as if it could only be a staple food among the wealthy, and then flood the market with soy products everyone can afford. This is exactly what's been done, and this is why the nation's children, unknowingly, face stunted growth, hormonal imbalances, and alot of other problems corporations that produce soy foods don't want you to know about.
My ancestors didn't eat soy, they ate meat. They seemed to live long, happy lives. In fact, I'm going to go cook a lean hamburger right now, all bloody and juicy. Fuck soy, and fuck peta.
Submitted by precious_roy (user info) at 2003-04-24 10:20:39 EDT (#)
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You got a point. They could do so much with their cause, but instead ruin their credibility with stuff like this.
Submitted by antluvdog (user info) at 2003-04-24 10:18:55 EDT (#)
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PETA approaches the problem of animal abuse in all the wrong ways. Unfortunately, I can't think of a good way to approach the problem. Besides, I like eating little kittens whole.
Submitted by precious_roy (user info) at 2003-04-24 10:14:41 EDT (#)
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Don't forget their comparing cattle slaughter to the Holocaust.
"To them, you are the Nazis."
How fucking disrespectful to victims of the real Holocaust is that?
Or their taking to task Yasir Arafat (sic?) for using a donkey for a jackass-suicide bombing. No mention of the people on that bus that were injured, just the fact that he was using an animal.
"The animals have no say in this. They have no country. Leave them out of this."
The lady even called him Your Excellency or somesuch.
They lost credibility a LONG time ago. NO COMMON SENSE.
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2003-04-24 10:07:48 EDT (#)
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I heard about this on the radio. You have to admit, they are nothing if not consistent. They did a protest here when the circus came to town. Basically it was mostly naked people with tiger body paint locked in little cages. It was a better show than the actual circus. I have a friend who is a vegetarian, not a wacko one, just the normal kind. She eats this crap that is fake meat. What in hell do you have to do to tofu to make it look like meat and how is that more healthy than real meat?