SPT -The Wealthy Can Take Your Land (2866 hits)
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Submitted by Munkeypants Is Disgusted (View user info) at 2005-06-23 11:18:35 EDT
Now let me get this straight. The fifth ammendment allows governments to take private property through eminent domain if the land is for "public use." Okay fine. If the town is going under and officals decide it is vital to bost economic growth then fine. However, it is now ruled that
local governments, which would naturally extend to include wealthy developers, corporations and businesses, can may seize people's properties for PRIVATE economic use.
That's how I am reading this. Am I understanding this wrong?
High court OKs personal property seizures
Majority: Local officials know how best to help cities
Thursday, June 23, 2005; Posted: 10:50 a.m. EDT (14:50 GMT)
Supreme Court
Connecticut
WASHINGTON (AP) -- -- The Supreme Court on Thursday ruled that local governments may seize people's homes and businesses -- even against their will -- for private economic development.
It was a decision fraught with huge implications for a country with many areas, particularly the rapidly growing urban and suburban areas, facing countervailing pressures of development and property ownership rights.
The 5-4 ruling represented a defeat for some Connecticut residents whose homes are slated for destruction to make room for an office complex. They argued that cities have no right to take their land except for projects with a clear public use, such as roads or schools, or to revitalize blighted areas.
As a result, cities have wide power to bulldoze residences for projects such as shopping malls and hotel complexes to generate tax revenue.
Local officials, not federal judges, know best in deciding whether a development project will benefit the community, justices said.
"The city has carefully formulated an economic development that it believes will provide appreciable benefits to the community, including -- but by no means limited to -- new jobs and increased tax revenue," Justice John Paul Stevens wrote for the majority.
He was joined by Justice Anthony Kennedy, David H. Souter, Ruth Bader Ginsburg and Stephen G. Breyer.
At issue was the scope of the Fifth Amendment, which allows governments to take private property through eminent domain if the land is for "public use."
Susette Kelo and several other homeowners in a working-class neighborhood in New London, Connecticut, filed suit after city officials announced plans to raze their homes for a riverfront hotel, health club and offices.
***New London officials countered that the private development plans served a public purpose of boosting economic growth that outweighed the homeowners' property rights, even if the area wasn't blighted. ***
Justice Sandra Day O'Connor, who has been a key swing vote on many cases before the court, issued a stinging dissent. She argued that cities should not have unlimited authority to uproot families, even if they are provided compensation, simply to accommodate wealthy developers.
The lower courts had been divided on the issue, with many allowing a taking only if it eliminates blight.
"Any property may now be taken for the benefit of another private party, but the fallout from this decision will not be random," O'Connor wrote. "The beneficiaries are likely to be those citizens with disproportionate influence and power in the political process, including large corporations and development firms."
She was joined in her opinion by Chief Justice William H. Rehnquist, as well as Justices Antonin Scalia and Clarence Thomas.
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Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-07-28 01:03:54 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Or_ (user info) at 2005-06-23 20:30:21 (#)
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Rad, I blame them anyway. It's a conservative Supreme Court.
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This is older...but I had to answer. Think to yourself, "If this was a conservative Supreme Court, would abortion be legal?"
Sure, 7/9 of the court was appointed by republicans, but it doesn't mean the judges are conservative republicans. Actually, nearly always the choice has backfired for republicans.
The worst is Reagan's last appointee in 88. He's a flat out dud.
Also, the 3 that voted against this decision are the only 3 that think Roe V. Wade should be overturned... THE MOST convervative judges on the bench. And here you go, "It is a conservative court", or anyone else who blames conservatives.
Property rights are VERY, VERY, VERY important and most conservatives are die-hard believers in Adam Smith's economic theories. (Think about it...communism, or in some socialist societies, LAND OWNERSHIP is AKIN TO EVIL. This decision strips all property owners of their rights. It directly goes against the constitution which says "PUBLIC USE".
Bush's nominee is a definate believer in the constitution from what I've seen about him. That's good stuff right there.
Submitted by morontian (user info) at 2005-07-06 01:34:33 EDT (#)
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I love ya for trying to keep up, but this is nothing new. Stephen King worte a story based on this issue in 1981, and no, it wasn't a futuristic anti-utopia thing.
Submitted by munkeypants (user info) at 2005-06-30 14:01:21 EDT (#)
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Indo,
that is fucking awesome.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-06-28 15:18:11 EDT (#)
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http://www.freenation.tv/hotellostliberty2.html
Some developer is now trying to take one of the Supreme courts justices home with this ruling.
Submitted by Feijuada (user info) at 2005-06-28 02:00:02 EDT (#)
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I can't believe that is happening in my home state.
Submitted by Harmless (user info) at 2005-06-28 01:36:14 EDT (#)
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Bizarre. Canadian high five, anyone?
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-28 01:12:38 EDT (#)
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Fuck that, Thorpe!
The satanists are totally out to get us, in this case. Why do you think I'm a religious nut?
Submitted by munkeypants (user info) at 2005-06-27 20:29:44 EDT (#)
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learn to swim
Submitted by munkeypants (user info) at 2005-06-27 20:10:33 EDT (#)
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oh yeeeeeah. I just came back from a long weekend and I forgot about this.
Now I am back to being pissed off at this contry.
grrrrrr.
ETS I see you have been busy. Good work my man. Thanks for the links.
I will be checking them out after dinner.
Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2005-06-27 06:07:39 EDT (#)
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I thought I'd already said this, but it appears my comment isn't here.
Rad, you're taking too much for granted here - this decision has nothing to do with statism. If it was statism, the land sure wouldn't be being given to a private developer.
Left-wing statism concerns what is done with the power of the state, not just the level of power it has.
Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-06-27 00:10:03 EDT (#)
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Communism works well on a centralised community with socialised industry. The bigger and less centralised/industrialised your nation is, the more capitalist you need to become. National socialism is probably the right balance for most western, idustrialised nations today.
Of course, when you say the word "socialism" or even think about doing anything the nazis did you'll get the ignorance of the masses attacking you.
That's the problem with democracy. It's based on the premise that a popular idea is a good one.
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2005-06-26 22:17:22 EDT (#)
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Ich sehe...
Ich bin auch ein weinig socialische.
I belive in communist socialism working on a local level. I think that's how you say it in english? Like small-scale socialism. No food-stamps or Bolsheviks. Only small, self-sufficient, inter-trading and politically, fully independant communities. COMMUNities = COMMUNism. But don't label me as a communist.
Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-06-26 19:57:22 EDT (#)
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Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2005-06-26 17:57:40 (#)
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Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-06-26 00:07:21 (#)
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Yet another justification for socialism.
At least then if the land was taken you know nobody's going to make a profit from it except the government and then that cash turns into infrastructure and services for the people and not just a few more zeros on some fatcats offshore bank account.
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Are you really socialist?
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National socialist. It's not a marxist socialism but it's a socialism nonetheless.
It's the same economic system the Nazis used. Considering they turned Germany from the smoking ruins of WW1 into a substantial world power in ten years their economics is certainly something that should be aspired to.
Perhaps their foreign relations weren't the greatest *cough operation barbarossa cough*, but their economics were sehr gut.
Submitted by legallady (user info) at 2005-06-26 18:00:27 EDT (#)
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Do you think this will result
in some mass shooting situation?
Should we take bets?
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2005-06-26 17:57:55 EDT (#)
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Sorry forgot +2
Submitted by G-prime (user info) at 2005-06-26 17:57:40 EDT (#)
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Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-06-26 00:07:21 (#)
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Yet another justification for socialism.
At least then if the land was taken you know nobody's going to make a profit from it except the government and then that cash turns into infrastructure and services for the people and not just a few more zeros on some fatcats offshore bank account.
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Are you really socialist?
Submitted by Martyn_Steiner (user info) at 2005-06-26 10:24:07 EDT (#)
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I'll show you what to do with this; http://www.ubersite.com/m/35624
Submitted by cumguzzler (user info) at 2005-06-26 00:55:00 EDT (#)
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Oh this is a fantastic piece. The best ever!
Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-06-26 00:07:21 EDT (#)
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Yet another justification for socialism.
At least then if the land was taken you know nobody's going to make a profit from it except the government and then that cash turns into infrastructure and services for the people and not just a few more zeros on some fatcats offshore bank account.
Submitted by Bigmike (user info) at 2005-06-25 23:47:56 EDT (#)
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This is why I live out in the middle of nowhere.
Submitted by Nobb (user info) at 2005-06-25 23:26:52 EDT (#)
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If I was American i'd most certainly vote nader. Thank god i'm not though! Haha, sucks to be you guys. Of course New Zealand will probably go the way of America eventually, but not till i'm old and wealthy!
Submitted by Nator (user info) at 2005-06-25 20:58:25 EDT (#)
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I think the Michael Jackson case, "the gay problem", and that girl that died in Aruba are actually more pressing matters then the government taking your land away to make $. Sorta.
Submitted by Pentameter (user info) at 2005-06-25 14:49:39 EDT (#)
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The bottom line is - 99% of government officials are cunts, no matter what party they're affiliated with.
It's all about lining pockets.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-25 03:33:27 EDT (#)
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That was pretty stupid.
its not like these people aren't getting paid for giving up their land.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-25 03:32:34 EDT (#)
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Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2005-06-25 01:34:51 (#)
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sometimes the needs of one family are less important than the greater good. Like if Portsmouth City council decide that my house is in the ideal location for a new shoe shop, it would be wrong if they DIDN'T force me to sell it to the developers.
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oh fuckoff with that.
You ever wonder why we seperated from you?
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-06-25 02:02:13 EDT (#)
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Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2005-06-25 01:34:51 (#)
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sometimes the needs of one family are less important than the greater good. Like if Portsmouth City council decide that my house is in the ideal location for a new shoe shop, it would be wrong if they DIDN'T force me to sell it to the developers.
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Please read prior arguments on emminent domain. nobody complains if it is a shithole, but to tell a good neighborhood it it not good enough, there is a problem.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-06-25 01:57:22 EDT (#)
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Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2005-06-25 01:34:51 (#)
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sometimes the needs of one family are less important than the greater good. Like if Portsmouth City council decide that my house is in the ideal location for a new shoe shop, it would be wrong if they DIDN'T force me to sell it to the developers.
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This is not thw situation.
Not at all.
This is a basic Constitutional right that hase been misused by idiots.
The people they are EVICTING are fairly prosperous, the town is doing good. Maybe the "town" could do better if they are kicked out. But I think not, i think friends of friends have a buddy who is a judge and made people sell. It is a perversion of the constitution!!
This opens the door for any local law maker to order people out of their homes because his cousin has stake in a strip mall that might be built there.
Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2005-06-25 01:34:51 EDT (#)
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sometimes the needs of one family are less important than the greater good. Like if Portsmouth City council decide that my house is in the ideal location for a new shoe shop, it would be wrong if they DIDN'T force me to sell it to the developers.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-25 01:12:38 EDT (#)
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2005-06-24 13:01:23 (#)
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Rad and everyone else...
I am tired to the 2 party status quo in this country.
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I've been voting Libertarian since '05
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-25 01:11:38 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Loren1 (user info) at 2005-06-24 15:15:12 (#)
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The fun never stops here in America.
I've got my own issues with the government. They're trying to raise my property taxes 44%.
That would mean I would have to pay over 10K a year.
The best part about it is, I don't own any fucking land. It's a goddamed 1,000 sq. ft. condominium.
Excuse me, I have to go puke now.
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Let me guess, New York?
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-25 01:10:38 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Papercuts (user info) at 2005-06-24 21:18:35 (#)
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Jesus Christ, this Rad guy is a dumbfuck. I guess he's just an overall nice guy, so people usually give him decent ratings on his posts.
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Argue against my points, then.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-25 01:09:44 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Professional_Peon (user info) at 2005-06-24 14:39:11 (#)
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I'll let em take my land....
But they gotta get past my shotgun first!
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Will you marry me?
The wife surely won't mind.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-06-25 00:32:00 EDT (#)
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Submitted by d_prime (user info) at 2005-06-24 21:58:15 (#)
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All seizure of private property is immoral.
http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/05.06.23.PropertyWrongs-X.gif
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Immoral, or illegal? There is a huge difference, if we ever meet in person we can debate this. Every society has an element of socialism, or capatilism, whatever you hate or love, in small parts it is there. I am babbling, this descision, constitutionally, morally, is bad.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2005-06-24 22:45:40 EDT (#)
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This isn't just going to go away, you know.
Submitted by d_prime (user info) at 2005-06-24 21:58:15 EDT (#)
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All seizure of private property is immoral.
http://www.coxandforkum.com/archives/05.06.23.PropertyWrongs-X.gif
Submitted by Anansie (user info) at 2005-06-24 21:50:22 EDT (#)
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So...angry....must...not...turn...into...giant...green...monster....
Submitted by Papercuts (user info) at 2005-06-24 21:18:35 EDT (#)
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Jesus Christ, this Rad guy is a dumbfuck. I guess he's just an overall nice guy, so people usually give him decent ratings on his posts.
Submitted by antluvdog (user info) at 2005-06-24 19:17:41 EDT (#)
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Yep. Fuck that.
Submitted by lucid (user info) at 2005-06-24 19:15:52 EDT (#)
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Welcome to Amerika, how may I serve me?
Submitted by Loren1 (user info) at 2005-06-24 15:15:12 EDT (#)
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The fun never stops here in America.
I've got my own issues with the government. They're trying to raise my property taxes 44%.
That would mean I would have to pay over 10K a year.
The best part about it is, I don't own any fucking land. It's a goddamed 1,000 sq. ft. condominium.
Excuse me, I have to go puke now.
Submitted by Professional_Peon (user info) at 2005-06-24 14:39:11 EDT (#)
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I'll let em take my land....
But they gotta get past my shotgun first!
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-06-24 14:15:53 EDT (#)
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Somebody mentioned this as a States right Issue, I don't see it that way at all.
If a case came before the supreme court where New Hampshire outlawed guns, or Alabama adopted Baptism as the official religion, and the Supreme court said it was okay would you see that as a States right issue? Those are much clearer cases of what is and isn't allowed under the constitution. Emminent domain requires a little more clarification, and the supreme court decided to take more rights from people and give them to the Govt by allowing them to decide that a good taxpaying successful community wasn't successful enough. It is clearly a party line case, and represents the worst of Democratic ideology, I am not saying republicans are perfect, but this decision toes the party lines. It has nothing to do with states rights.
This pisses me off to no end.
Submitted by creep_firebombing (user info) at 2005-06-24 13:30:40 EDT (#)
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Rant aside, is that a painting in the background of an elephant spreading it's asshole?
Submitted by LadyPlural (user info) at 2005-06-24 13:02:54 EDT (#)
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Seriously, adhering to a specific party is silly. I definetely lean to the liberal side of things, but some Republicans are better leaders than some Democrats. And like you said, in this case at least, it isn't really a matter of political parties.
Yes, kill them all...
*plots*
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2005-06-24 13:01:23 EDT (#)
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Rad and everyone else...
I am tired to the 2 party status quo in this country.
Come election 2008, I am voting for a third party candidate. Until we get a legitimate third party contender, the powers that be will continue to abuse their positions because they know the American public will just accept it when they lie or don't do what they promised on the election trail.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-24 12:46:29 EDT (#)
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At least with the republicans, theres a chance I can either fight back, or conform.
My options are totally screwed if I go Democrat.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-24 12:45:14 EDT (#)
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The way I see it, the republicans are trying to make a buck on the backs of the people, while the Democrats are taking our shit away from us for our own good.
Six of one, half dozen of another.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-24 12:43:01 EDT (#)
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LadyPlural, I say everybody dies.
You with me on this?
Submitted by LadyPlural (user info) at 2005-06-24 12:39:47 EDT (#)
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Well, the ruling made the front page of our local paper today, anyway.
Submitted by LadyPlural (user info) at 2005-06-24 12:31:32 EDT (#)
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rad: hahahahahaha!
Ignerrent sumbitch.
Interesting note: every even slightly 'liberal' person I've talked to has said something to the effect of "Those damn conservatives."
Except for my stepfather. He thinks that the ruling is ok. But he's an architect for several major developers, so that probably explains it. Then when I asked him how it couldn't easily be corrupted, he said, and I quote "It's Bush's Supreme Court appointees. Fucking conservatives."
I say we kill him.
The stepfather, not Bush. Although...
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2005-06-24 09:11:35 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Method (user info) at 2005-06-24 06:55:50 (#)
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Atlas Shrugged
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Anthem as well
"If we don't take action now, we'll settle for nothing later." - Rage Against the Machine
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2005-06-24 06:55:50 EDT (#)
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Atlas Shrugged
Submitted by hairycoo (user info) at 2005-06-24 06:29:17 EDT (#)
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theres a great Australian film called The Castle about this. Its fucking brilliant
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-24 02:29:29 EDT (#)
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LadyPlural,
yur white, A'm rong, A'm so vurry vurry dusapuontud un muh-sulf
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-24 02:27:42 EDT (#)
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Submitted by thecaes (user info) at 2005-06-23 19:15:31 (#)
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Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-23 11:39:06 (#)
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The bad guy here is not the corporation trying to make a buck.
The bad guy is the huge government abusing its powers in order to make decisions for you.
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Dude, I'm pretty sure they're BOTH the bad guys here. In fact in today's world of corporate-government partnership, I'm not even sure you can seperate the two any more.
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Fuck it.
Lets go socialist then.
We can trade all our problems in for a whole new set of problems.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-24 02:23:36 EDT (#)
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oh fuck me my reading comprehension has dwindled just looking at this horseshit.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-24 02:22:35 EDT (#)
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Submitted by LadyPlural (user info) at 2005-06-23 20:47:25 (#)
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GAAAAAAH!
And DAMN them for making me agree with Scalia and Thomas.
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Submitted by LadyPlural (user info) at 2005-06-23 23:32:53 (#)
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Ummm, rad? If you look, I said that this *wasn't* something to do with political affiliation. The reason I didn't like agreeing with Scalia and Thomas is that in general, they vote in ways that I do not agree with, and can be utter douchebags about doing so. Could you maybe, you know, read things through before you tell people that they're wrong for having the same views as you?
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I was talking about this little jab.
Submitted by shitfuck (user info) at 2005-06-24 00:54:25 EDT (#)
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That's disgusting.
Submitted by LadyPlural (user info) at 2005-06-23 23:32:53 EDT (#)
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Ummm, rad? If you look, I said that this *wasn't* something to do with political affiliation. The reason I didn't like agreeing with Scalia and Thomas is that in general, they vote in ways that I do not agree with, and can be utter douchebags about doing so. Could you maybe, you know, read things through before you tell people that they're wrong for having the same views as you?
Submitted by jack0173 (user info) at 2005-06-23 21:45:49 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by stevie_says (user info) at 2005-06-23 21:45:33 EDT (#)
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In Simcity, I just bulldoze everything when traffic gets bad. And if the teachers at a school start protesting the low wages or high class size, I bulldoze the school. And if shit REALLY starts to go bad, I call up Godzilla and he wipes them all out.
I wish I were playing simcity right now.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2005-06-23 21:26:24 EDT (#)
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luke-warm lovers of freedom.
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heated
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2005-06-23 21:25:46 EDT (#)
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get
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2005-06-23 21:25:37 EDT (#)
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let's
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2005-06-23 21:14:30 EDT (#)
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heheheheh
I just left a very ranting message on my Congressman's answering machine!
I encourage others to do the same!
PLEASE, let's not lay down on this.
Call your congressman! Flood their phones! I want them to have so many messages when they all walk into their offices tomorrow that they'll need to hire extra help just to sort them out!
Wake up! Get off the couch! Pick up the phone, and call your congressman about this abuse of power.
The American dream is fucking dying...and you have better things to do?
Trust me, I am not at all political, but this is not about politics. This is about our very way of life. This is about some of the basic rights we take for granted being pulled from under us. What happens when they've ALL been pulled from under you and neither you, your parents, your children, or your children's children have anywhere left to stand?
That's right... We'll all be slaves. This will be a socialist country with absolute dominion over us, and we will be powerless as citizens to stop it.
Let's nip this shit in the fucking bud!
This IS our revolution!
CLick this link, put in your state and zip code, and call your congressman. Tell them how incensed, apalled, and angry you are about the Supreme Court's ruling on Eminent Doman.
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Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-23 21:06:07 EDT (#)
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Pretty much what ETS said.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2005-06-23 21:02:39 EDT (#)
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This is not about Conservatives vs. Liberals or Democrats vs. Republicans. People, wipe the affiliations from your narrow minds for 2 seconds and you'll see that this is about ALL OF US! This is a ruling against the common citizen no matter what their political affiliation.
This is about those with lots of money now having the ability to legally push around those without it. THAT'S what this is about! It's about, plain and simply, the death of one of the founding principles of this country, and it sickens me because I just watched CNN coverage of it,and they are treating it with far less focus on the obvious implications than you would expect from a respectable news organization.
This is not something that will simply pass, people. If we don't do something now...if we don't write our Congressmen about this, then we have failed future generations in this country the BASIC RIGHT to own a piece of property without fear that the local government, along with some faceless corporate entity, can just come in and take it from you anytime they see fit.
Seriously, like I said before, what has happened today - this little news story that will surely pass under most people's radar - will have more negative impact on the freedoms that we profess to love so dearly than all the terrorist attacks we've ever been the victim of.
The question is: will we just lay down and take it?
Will we just let our government, regardless of whether it's a Republican or a Democratic majority, continue to divert our eyes while they stick their greedy, oil-drenched, kickback-taking hands in our private lives, our piggy banks, and now our personal property?
For me, at least, the answer is a big HELL FUCKING NO!
As far as I'm concerned, those justices can take their unconstitutional. abuse-of-judicial-power ruling and shove it up their white, wrinkled, corporate cum-soaked asses!
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-23 21:02:26 EDT (#)
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Looking at Or_ and LadyPlural's reviews below this, I must say that it worries me that people are so set in their thought boxes that they don't see the big picture.
Look outside what you think your ideals are. Look past what your political party is feeding you.
You can be pretty sure if someone is blaming problems on a political party, or a set of ideals, they are pretty much full of crap.
Submitted by Or_ (user info) at 2005-06-23 20:48:15 EDT (#)
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Pawned, then. I had heard otherwise in the aftermath of the 2000 decision, but I will assume you're correct on this. The ruling is demonstrative of a conservative trend that I don't like, though, in encouraging businesses to become a bit too cozy with government.
Submitted by LadyPlural (user info) at 2005-06-23 20:47:25 EDT (#)
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GAAAAAAH!
And DAMN them for making me agree with Scalia and Thomas.
Submitted by LadyPlural (user info) at 2005-06-23 20:45:29 EDT (#)
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Who cares what the party affiliation of the justices who voted for this absolute joke is? Ideals, it seems, mean *nothing* when compared to money.
This sickens me.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-23 20:31:46 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Submitted by Or_ (user info) at 2005-06-23 20:30:21 (#)
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Rad, I blame them anyway. It's a conservative Supreme Court.
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The continium of rights are as follows:
Federal mandate < States rights < personal liberty
Left_________________________________________right
Stevens___________________________________Rehnquist
Souter___________________________________________Thomas
Breyer___________________________________________Scalia
Ginsberg________________O'Connor
Kennedy
5 leftists
3 conservatives
1 moderate
Try again Or_
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-23 20:30:33 EDT (#)
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Submitted by WhatDoesThisButtonDo (user info) at 2005-06-23 20:08:46 (#)
Ranking: 1
Would have gotten a two, had you included a source.
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the source is the AP.
Not her fault you are too stupid to figure out how to find it.
Submitted by Or_ (user info) at 2005-06-23 20:30:21 EDT (#)
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Rad, I blame them anyway. It's a conservative Supreme Court.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-23 20:28:01 EDT (#)
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or_ did you bother to read this post?
IT'S NOT THE FUCKING REPUBLICANS IN THIS CASE
Submitted by Or_ (user info) at 2005-06-23 20:09:39 EDT (#)
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I fucking hate republicans. I'm finding more and more reasons to say this lately. Seriously, what the fuck is going on in this country any more?
Submitted by WhatDoesThisButtonDo (user info) at 2005-06-23 20:08:46 EDT (#)
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Would have gotten a two, had you included a source.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2005-06-23 20:07:38 EDT (#)
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Tell your Congressman that if this is the interpretation that the Supreme Court can make from the current law, then they'd better make a fucking better one!
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2005-06-23 20:05:16 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
http://www.house.gov/writerep/
I encourage every American who reads this to write your Representative!
This is NOT the America our parents busted their ass to raise us in, and this is NOT the America I want for my children!
Even if you don't know what to say to your Congressman, write them anyway. Just copy and paste some of the reviews in this post and tell them that THIS is how pissed off we are, and THIS WILL come back to haunt them come election time if they don't do something about it!
Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-06-23 19:36:11 EDT (#)
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Orwell, anyone?
Submitted by thecaes (user info) at 2005-06-23 19:17:15 EDT (#)
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In other horrible news, I heard on the radio today that the Canadian government is expecting a flu pandemic within the next few years. Yes, PANDEMIC (but with less zombies). They expect that thousands upon thousands will die and 5 million will be hospitalized by flu strains that have become resistant to anti-biotics.
So, that's real comforting.
Submitted by thecaes (user info) at 2005-06-23 19:15:31 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-23 11:39:06 (#)
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The bad guy here is not the corporation trying to make a buck.
The bad guy is the huge government abusing its powers in order to make decisions for you.
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Dude, I'm pretty sure they're BOTH the bad guys here. In fact in today's world of corporate-government partnership, I'm not even sure you can seperate the two any more.
Anybody hear of a documentary called "The Corporation"? It's the best documentary of 2004 hands down. I highly, HIGHLY recommend anyone who has even a smidgen of interest in how corporations function, check it out.
Submitted by Anansie (user info) at 2005-06-23 19:02:27 EDT (#)
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ARE YOU FUCKING KIDDING WE ARE ABOUT TO BUY LAND THIS IS PISSING ME OFF SO BAD I HIT CAPS LOCK!!!!!! GODDAMN THEM ALL STRAIGHT TO HELL THE IGNORANT GREEDY FUCKS!!!!! WHAT IS THE POINT OF TRYING TO DO ANYTHING IN THIS SHITHOLE COUNTRY WHEN SOMEONE CAN SNATCH IT OUT FROM UDER YOUR ASS AND IT'S GOVERNMENT SPONSORED SNATCHING? FUCK THE GOVERNMENT.
Submitted by 2x4fun (user info) at 2005-06-23 18:57:12 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
fuck the government.i hate them.cunts.
Submitted by Caacodaemus (user info) at 2005-06-23 18:29:25 EDT (#)
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so, anyone else want to start a rebellion?
Submitted by mikethescottish (user info) at 2005-06-23 18:03:27 EDT (#)
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Fucksake man. That's pure mental, that is.
Submitted by littledan (user info) at 2005-06-23 17:51:53 EDT (#)
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That's terrible. I don't know what the law about that is in Canada, but I hope we don't come to that.
Submitted by munkeypants (user info) at 2005-06-23 16:17:54 EDT (#)
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wooo in one hour i go home to get ready for drinking and debauchery
in Michigan!
mmm.. prozac...
Submitted by munkeypants (user info) at 2005-06-23 16:15:51 EDT (#)
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you know it's not just this issue. I have been watching crazy shit go down for the last
6 years but this is getting FUCKING RIDICULOUS.
enough is fucking enough.
and the scary thing is... who is going to stop any of these people? who?
they can do whatever the fuck they want, make whatever fucking bills they
want regardless of what the people want. These politicians and CEO's have
their own agendas in mind and the money and the power to do it.
They like the rules? They change the fucking constitution or at least
interpret it to how it fits their needs.
Fucking George Bush forgot that he was supposed to put his hand on the
bible and promise to uphold the constitution and not the other way around!!!
FUCK. I can go to canada and have all the weed, abortions, absinthe,
and fucking cuban cigars I want. what the fuck am I doing in America???
BAH!!! RANTS FEEL GOOD!!!
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2005-06-23 16:05:20 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Munkeypants: I can't see how any of us can really afford to be wishy-washy or lax on this issue.
Submitted by munkeypants (user info) at 2005-06-23 16:03:01 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
ETS you rock.
Submitted by HadToBeDone (user info) at 2005-06-23 15:59:51 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
I feel motivated by ETS's rants, so I will be there in hip-wadersm struggling to stay above the rising tide of emo tears....
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2005-06-23 15:59:49 EDT (#)
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Monkeypants: done!
Submitted by munkeypants (user info) at 2005-06-23 15:56:46 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
I wish I had paypal to put this on the uberboard. Not that I even care about
ratings but people need to be aware of all of this fucking bullshit.
Submitted by munkeypants (user info) at 2005-06-23 15:49:00 EDT (#)
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A-FUCKING-MEN
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2005-06-23 15:46:53 EDT (#)
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More people need to see this.
I don't think they get it.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2005-06-23 15:37:53 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Really, this is the worst day in the history of this country.
I cannot believe anyone with half a mind would disagree with that. This is NOT what America is supposed to be! We are not supposed to value money above all else!
America is supposed to be about "Life, Liberty, and the Persuit of Happiness" right?
Whatever happened to simply enjoying the fruits of your labor? What happened to our human ideals of being able to work hard and purchase a piece of land to call your own to raise a family on, without fear of your own government taking it from under you because some fat-cat needs to build a 7-11 there?
This, my friends, is the death of the American dream.
There will be no "Taps" on trumpets, and there will be no flag draped over its casket.
The vision of America that my grandfather fought the Germans for in World War II is NOT this America!
The vision of Freedom that our troops are fighting for in Iraq is NOT this brand of Freedom!
We're being lied to, people.....and I, for one, am fucking sick of it.
You say you can do nothing? You're wrong!
Tell your children NOT TO JOIN THE MILITARY! Teach them about the things that are WORTH fighting for. Teach them that greed is not one of them. Teach them that there are more important things than winning the game. Teach them that there are some things that just cannot be bought.
We can make a difference.
While you still have it, use your vote to send a message. GET THOSE PEOPLE OUT OF THERE!
Run for office yourself if you have to! Please, let's not lose sight of what's important in this life.
I have spent the better part of my young adulthood watching in horror as everything I was taught was important in life has been slowly stripped away and replaced with a pre-fabbed, cookie cutter product.
All that it leaves behind is a society blinded by greed, fueled by power, and stifled by cynicism.
Submitted by munkeypants (user info) at 2005-06-23 15:15:04 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
I'm with ya, ETS. I've had it up to my eyeballs with this fucking
corporate/government mutual cocksucking.
ie Bush, Cheney, Haliburton, WAR
Submitted by munkeypants (user info) at 2005-06-23 15:12:47 EDT (#)
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http://www.cnn.com/2005/LAW/06/23/scotus.property.ap/index.html
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2005-06-23 15:07:39 EDT (#)
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Munkeypants, where did you get this?
Link me.
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2005-06-23 15:01:37 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-23 11:39:06 (#)
Ranking: 2
The bad guy here is not the corporation trying to make a buck.
The bad guy is the huge government abusing its powers in order to make decisions for you.
THIS IS WHAT WE CONSERVATIVES ARE TALKING ABOUT, NOW PERHAPS YOU WILL LISTEN?
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Rad, this is not about Conservative or Liberal. This is about our country turning into a fucking communist nation. This is about a few people who's bank accounts just got real fucking FAT!
That's it.
The people that voted this in are neither Conservative or Liberal. They are whores to the corporate machine, nothing more.
This is even WORSE than the shit our forefathers fought England over in the first place!
I say it's time for a revolution. This shit has gone on long enough!
I am literally infuriated by this whole notion, and I consider MYSELF more Liberal than Conservative. Shit, man, this spells the end to our way of life.
It's easy to say "vote them out of office" - but anyone with half a fucking brain knows that money rules elections. Money buys votes. Money makes appeals. Money makes legislation. Money pays the enforcers to either enforce or look the other way.
This is the world we live in guys. Let's wake up and smell the fucking napalm!
It's time we took to the fucking streets! If you ask me, it's high time we brought Tyler Durton into this bitch!
I'm sick of my fucking rights being stolen in the name of 'progress'. 'Let them eat cake' indeed!
Bring out the mutherfucking guillotine! It's about time we shake this shit up.
Submitted by munkeypants (user info) at 2005-06-23 15:00:49 EDT (#)
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shut the fuck up tim. you, me, and hadooknuts were discusiing this via e-mail. maybe i wanted to
expand it to a discussion with more people.
Submitted by MyNameIsTim (user info) at 2005-06-23 14:46:59 EDT (#)
Ranking: -1
link post.
Submitted by munkeypants (user info) at 2005-06-23 14:45:31 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Who's the moron who wrote this and didn't provide a link??
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2005-06-23 14:43:06 EDT (#)
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Submitted by loki (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:04:44 (#)
Ranking: 2
hooray for the fall of rome
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She's right. Yes, it's that significant! This is bigger and more hurtful than any 9/11 or any terrorist attack, folks. This is the end of the idea of Democracy!
Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2005-06-23 14:35:07 EDT (#)
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"New London officials countered that the private development plans served a public purpose of boosting economic growth that outweighed the homeowners' property rights, even if the area wasn't blighted."
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Get your guns and sit on your porches! The fucking Nazis are taking over, but this time they're using LAW!
This is the biggest crock of fucking shit I've ever heard! What's next? Bulldozing Indian burial grounds because they generate no revenue?
Are we now going to tear down all our houses and live in apartment hives while the rest of our cities are razed to make way for fucking strip malls!?!?!
I say "TO ARMS" over this shit!
This has got to be the biggest Constitutional blunder and outright abuse of judicial power I have ever seen perpetrated on the average American working person.
Welcome to the end of America as we knew it, folks!
Submitted by shark25 (user info) at 2005-06-23 14:15:05 EDT (#)
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There goes the American freedom train!
Why did it just pass us?
I hope the Iraqies take not of what kind of "domocracy" and "freedom" we are brining them.
Submitted by dodahdave (user info) at 2005-06-23 13:55:51 EDT (#)
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Stupid reply button.
Rad - My understanding is that the SC upheld lower (state) court rulings that were in favour of this use of eminent domain. So the SC was supporting the states' rulings.
I don't know much about this topic, but is this not what state's rights is?
Submitted by dodahdave (user info) at 2005-06-23 13:53:50 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:34:59 (#)
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...
...Moreover this was not a states rights issue, in the sense of federal rules being imposed on individual states.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-23 13:14:49 EDT (#)
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No we haven't.
I still got my guns.
Submitted by munkeypants (user info) at 2005-06-23 13:13:25 EDT (#)
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you know this isnt necessarily about democrats/liberals vs repubs/conservatives.
stop fighting about that. us as citizens are in the same boat no matter what our leanings.
we are quickly losing our 'voice'. our representatives are no longer listening to
what we want. They no longer care about people. it's all about the benjamins.
it's about us as citizens losing our rights one by one as capitalism and greed gains
yet another foothold in completely ruling the country.
with this decision we lost all rights to even fight against these people.
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:46:17 EDT (#)
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This happened in Ohio not too long ago - they had a story on 60 Minutes about this.
The mayour of a small Onio town decided to tear down some people's houses to build a golf course and shit like that.
Eventually, they voted the mayor out - which is what they need to do in New London.
It's very simple folks, this is communism in action, plain and simple.
Submitted by fudgepacker (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:39:45 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:34:59 EDT (#)
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Submitted by dodahdave (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:22:13 (#)
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Rad - the justification I've head for the liberals voting along with the government is that the ruling is in favor of state's rights. Care to comment on the 5-4 split in light of state's rights? I'm actually curious, not trying to troll.
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Please refer to my handy dandy chart below. Moreover this was not a states rights issue, in the sense of federal rules being imposed on individual states.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:33:03 EDT (#)
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Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:26:05 (#)
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Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:15:57 (#)
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IT'S NOT THE REPUBLICAN'S FAULT THIS TIME
Right....
Some rich "democratic" developer wants to use the land to make it a happy hippy fun loving place. Nothing to do with greed and/or $.
It's all about patriotism, right rad?
It's going to be an anti-terrorism training ground?
A "freedom center"?
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There are no rich democrats who are just as greedy as republican rich people?
and nice try, putting words in my mouth. I think this situation sucks as much as you do, but you cannot follow your party lines here. Think outside of the box for a minute and consider this is a not a republican ploy to get over on us? Please?
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:29:59 EDT (#)
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Spookie, it's not about the developer's greed. They are not the bad guys in this case.
It's about the government's abuse of eminent domain, backed by liberal appointees.
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:28:35 EDT (#)
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It's still bullshit to give a state that authority, whether it's in the names of state's rights or not. What about the rights of the legal property owners?
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:28:25 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
The continium of rights are as follows:
Federal mandate < States rights < personal liberty
Left_________________________________________right
Stevens___________________________________Rehnquist
Souter___________________________________________Thomas
Breyer___________________________________________Scalia
Ginsberg________________O'Connor
Kennedy
Any Questions?
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:27:13 EDT (#)
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Sorry, my "freeloading liberal hippy ass" must get back to doing my job.
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:26:05 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:15:57 (#)
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IT'S NOT THE REPUBLICAN'S FAULT THIS TIME
Right....
Some rich "democratic" developer wants to use the land to make it a happy hippy fun loving place. Nothing to do with greed and/or $.
It's all about patriotism, right rad?
It's going to be an anti-terrorism training ground?
A "freedom center"?
Submitted by dodahdave (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:22:13 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Rad - the justification I've head for the liberals voting along with the government is that the ruling is in favor of state's rights. Care to comment on the 5-4 split in light of state's rights? I'm actually curious, not trying to troll.
Submitted by DonkeyOnTheEdge (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:16:06 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:14:58 (#)
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Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2005-06-23 11:59:20 (#)
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GO REVISITED 1980'S REPUBLICAN GREED WOOOO!!
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with liberal judges approval?
GO MODERN DEMOCRATIC LIBERAL NANNY-STATE GREED OF POWER WOO!!
Haha.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:15:57 EDT (#)
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IT'S NOT THE REPUBLICAN'S FAULT THIS TIME
Submitted by munkeypants (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:15:55 EDT (#)
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Sorry about the republican title thingy. That was out of anger not a jab.
Bob I agree with you. For major highways, school, hospitals... but for a hotel and spa??
BuThis is going to open up a freeway for governments and greedy corporations and all that
political sway and ass kissing to seize properites at their whim. .
I used astericks to point out that the people in question who are losing their
homes are not in a community that's hurting for funds.
Kinda reminds me of that country over there <umm...name please> where they are razing
the demolished homes from the tsunami in december to make way for a resort.
The people standing by what's left of their homes, people lived there for generations,
were kicked off the land. By their law if you have been settled
some where for many years the land is yours. These people had nothing and lived in
unconventional housing. Greedy developers decided it was the perfect time to start
razing the demolished homes. Those poeple just lost everything including family members.
I read about this back in january or february. At the time is was being battled in courts and I never saw the outcome. Thailand??? indonesia??
10 points for someone to find me that story. And I am sure it is not in zimbabwe.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:14:58 EDT (#)
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Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2005-06-23 11:59:20 (#)
Ranking: 2
GO REVISITED 1980'S REPUBLICAN GREED WOOOO!!
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with liberal judges approval?
GO MODERN DEMOCRATIC LIBERAL NANNY-STATE GREED OF POWER WOO!!
Submitted by wookie (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:13:22 EDT (#)
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Just finished reading about this case in the Post.
Submitted by HadToBeDone (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:12:11 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2005-06-23 11:52:22 (#)
Ranking: 2
Local government has always been able to use immenent domain proceedings to obtain land for public improvements like highways, water towers, parks, etc. What grabs my attention is that the improvements proposed in Connecticut are PRIVATE improvements. How can a municipality act as a governing agency in the interest of their constituents, AND as a real estate developer without having conflicting interests? This makes no sense!
One thing with immenent domin is that the parties that own the land being condemned are compensated for the value of the land as determined by a third party appraiser. So it isn't as if they're being booted out on the street - they usually get a fat check. Plus, they can challenge the condemnation in court.
I don't know all the details involved in this, but the only possible justification might be to remove urban decay and blight...but it still smells funny.
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Big fight in Cincinnati over the same thing. Apparently an area with $90,000 homes is "blighted" according to city government. Houses taken, land given to developers. With this ruling, there is no more challenging the eminent domain decisions.
Submitted by cuberat (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:06:58 EDT (#)
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The answer to this and all the other problems plaguing this country is what I have been saying all along:
Us liberals (which extends to Democrats, as they are kind of our dominant political party right now) need to get more pissed off and just start fucking shit up.
Conservatives own guns, but we need to be brave enough to use them...on the fucking conservatives.
Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:05:51 EDT (#)
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I just woke up in front of my computer screen and this is waht I read. I wish I'd stayed asleep, this is horrible.
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:04:44 EDT (#)
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hooray for the fall of rome
Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:00:55 EDT (#)
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http://www.sun-sentinel.com/news/local/broward/sfl-scra22jun22,0,5268415.story?coll=sfla-news-broward
FOUND IT!
Submitted by simple_catalyst (user info) at 2005-06-23 12:00:33 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
abuse of private property rights by government is nothing new...
Submitted by UrbaneMischief (user info) at 2005-06-23 11:59:28 EDT (#)
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BAH
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2005-06-23 11:59:20 EDT (#)
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GO REVISITED 1980'S REPUBLICAN GREED WOOOO!!
Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2005-06-23 11:58:39 EDT (#)
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He in FL there is a recent widow who owns a building on Youngs Circle, that was built by the city of Hollywoods founder (Young) and is going to be made to sell her building ao a 100 million dollar condo can be erected.
Excuse me, I need to go recite the Pledge before the spooks take me down to Guantanamo again
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-23 11:52:34 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
That would be "neocon" rule, not conservative governance.
Reagan is the man, not Bush
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2005-06-23 11:52:22 EDT (#)
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Local government has always been able to use immenent domain proceedings to obtain land for public improvements like highways, water towers, parks, etc. What grabs my attention is that the improvements proposed in Connecticut are PRIVATE improvements. How can a municipality act as a governing agency in the interest of their constituents, AND as a real estate developer without having conflicting interests? This makes no sense!
One thing with immenent domin is that the parties that own the land being condemned are compensated for the value of the land as determined by a third party appraiser. So it isn't as if they're being booted out on the street - they usually get a fat check. Plus, they can challenge the condemnation in court.
I don't know all the details involved in this, but the only possible justification might be to remove urban decay and blight...but it still smells funny.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-06-23 11:51:13 EDT (#)
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Is that a FatTony camwhore?
Submitted by HadToBeDone (user info) at 2005-06-23 11:43:17 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-23 11:37:33 (#)
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nanny state, blah blah, larger government, blah blah, welfare state, blah blah.
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The single largest increase in the size and scope of government in the last 25 years came under "conservative" rule. That would be Homeland Security, and it is hopelessly ineffective, inefficient, and un-American. Go conservatives!
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-23 11:39:06 EDT (#)
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The bad guy here is not the corporation trying to make a buck.
The bad guy is the huge government abusing its powers in order to make decisions for you.
THIS IS WHAT WE CONSERVATIVES ARE TALKING ABOUT, NOW PERHAPS YOU WILL LISTEN?
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-23 11:37:33 EDT (#)
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nanny state, blah blah, larger government, blah blah, welfare state, blah blah.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-23 11:36:40 EDT (#)
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Who else voted democrat/socialist/green?
THIS IS WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF THESE SELF NAMED "PROGRESSIVE" IDEALS CONTINUE
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I mean, you did notice the liberal judges are lining themselves up with the "fat cats"?
Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2005-06-23 11:34:19 EDT (#)
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disgusting!
Submitted by ess-arr (user info) at 2005-06-23 11:33:45 EDT (#)
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Oh Canada, our home and native land...
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-23 11:27:11 EDT (#)
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mmmmmmmmm hairy broads.
What?!
Submitted by Sassmasterr (user info) at 2005-06-23 11:26:07 EDT (#)
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gluttonous bastard
Submitted by TigerLilly (user info) at 2005-06-23 11:25:02 EDT (#)
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Lets move to Costa Rica and live in huts. We'll wear
grass skirts and not shave. C'mon Munk. Say you'll go
with me.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-06-23 11:24:29 EDT (#)
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Funny how the conservatives are on the correct side of the issue here.
Submitted by spedmonkey (user info) at 2005-06-23 11:23:52 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Those bastards. Let's kill 'em all.
Submitted by PokeyPecker (user info) at 2005-06-23 11:22:36 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Pigs.