Modern Piracy: CD Burners on the High Seas (1016 hits)
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Submitted by JACK0173 (View user info) at 2005-07-03 12:51:55 EDT
I am writing this because today I went to the movies and saw an advertisement that went something along the lines of, " Pirating movies is just like mugging people in a horrendously violent manner, except worse" or somesuch. There has been a trend in the last few years for producers of entertainment (music, movies etc) to speak out against piracy, and even take drastic action (eg suing Napster or whatever they did).
Music producers need to come and join the rest of us in the real world. All of this anti-piracy brouhaha will add up to fuck all, for one simple reason: CD's are too expensive; no one will buy them anyway.
How much could it possibly cost to make a CD? Half a cent? Plus shipping; per CD I can't imagine that costs a whole lot. To produce the CD; a few million dollars?
That all adds up to nothing compared to the profits they make. Producers and artists become multi-millionaires through selling CD's. Why? I mean Eminem is a good artist and all, but does he really deserve to make $20 million (or whatever) for each album? Fuck no, he's not that good.
If everyone got paid a realistic amount for the "work" (seriously, singing is NOT work) CD's would be a reasonable price and more people would buy them.
If a CD is 100% worth buying, I'll buy it, but such occasions are few and far between.
I know a group of four people, each week one of them buys a CD then makes three copies, one for each of their friends. The next week the next one buys a CD, then makes three copies and so on. So they get four CD's a month, but pay for one. If the music companies make this impossible they will still only buy one CD a month: that's all they can afford (they're students).
This is not dissimilar to an incident that occurred a few years back. Rolex was getting sick of the trade in fake Rolexes, so they took action. They went to a bunch of Asian countries, confiscated every fake Rolex they could find then staged a big publicity stunt where they crushed them all with a steam roller. By how much did this increase Rolex's average annual sales? Zero. The reason, simple: The kind of person who could afford to buy a real Rolex would never even entertain the thought of buying a fake one, whereas someone who could never afford to spend $30 000 (or whatever) on a watch might not mind a fake one.
This is an extreme example but I think it applies to the music situation in at least a small way.
Another similar example is with Microsoft. My father works in IT so I can get legal copies of the latest Windows for free. If this weren't the case though, I would be running Linux right now (package computers with Windows bundled are for pussies; be a man, build your own computer). I'm just not going to spend the money if I don't have too.
Office is the same, last time I looked at the price for Office Pro it was AUS$700. Fuck that, Notepad will do just fine, thank you very much.
Of course, I'm sure there are significant numbers of people who can afford to pay for CD's, Operating systems, DVD's etc but if you could really, really afford it, who actually would pirate it? Pirating only makes things free as much as time is free. I hear that people who pirate games have to spend ages finding cracks etc. People who pirate Windows have to go through all kinds of shit to make it work. Burning CD's takes time and is a major pain in the arse.
Companies need to price things more realistically to ensure people buy more of them, not try to stamp out piracy.
NB I have never ever pirated anything in my entire life and do not condone the actions of people who do. Also, I am not jack11058. I own every Eminem CD (Encore is shit).
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Submitted by electrictoothsyndrome (user info) at 2005-07-08 03:37:11 EDT (#)
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Musicians don't make their money on CD sales. They make it on writer's and publishing royalties, and touring. Everytime you hear a song on the radio or in a TV program, or if anyone else ever uses the song in a for-profit endeavor, the artist, or copyright owner, is legally entitled to compensation.
If you want to know how much it takes Indie Labels, for example, to make a CD, look at a few manufacturer's websites.
Here's one that's pretty popular: http://www.diskmakers.com
The way I look at it, supporting the artists you love will help ensure that they will have the finacial flexability to lock themselves away from the world long enough and create another great album that you can enjoy.
Submitted by jack0173 (user info) at 2005-07-08 02:57:05 EDT (#)
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Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2005-07-05 10:55:00 (#)
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CDs wouldn't cost so much if not for piracy, illegal burning/copying, etc. If *you* were trying to make a living, would you like someone reaping the benefits of your work without compensating you? I know that I sure as hell don't work for free, whether in my regular job or my part-time music gigs. Only exception to that rule is charity work.
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CD's have been overpriced for many years. Only since the last few years have pirates had the tools (CD burners, P2P etc) to fight back.
Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2005-07-05 10:55:00 EDT (#)
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CDs wouldn't cost so much if not for piracy, illegal burning/copying, etc. If *you* were trying to make a living, would you like someone reaping the benefits of your work without compensating you? I know that I sure as hell don't work for free, whether in my regular job or my part-time music gigs. Only exception to that rule is charity work.
Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2005-07-04 08:34:14 EDT (#)
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Coming from a person who buys a CD every week, this was right on.
Submitted by missflibble (user info) at 2005-07-04 08:10:51 EDT (#)
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my internet connection is so crap that I buy, rip and sell on CDs. I normally recoup most if not all of my dosh. and i can't flog, my family get as presents.
i used to get other people to download music for me (even three years ago I had an idea if i did it i'd get caught and shafted) but i can't be bothered any more, relying on other people sucks.
Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-07-04 07:58:59 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
AUS$20 for a CD? That's highway robbery. They can go get fucked if they think they can charge me that and try to lay a guilt trip on me when i fuck them over.
Every time I see a CD price sticker, i don't see the dollars and the cents, I see a big fat message
"This Means War"
Submitted by The_Yellow_Dart (user info) at 2005-07-04 00:14:34 EDT (#)
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Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancel cell.
Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-07-03 23:24:10 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Skull tear-drops?
Damn I miss Jap commercials.
Submitted by supadupapupa (user info) at 2005-07-03 23:15:40 EDT (#)
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Internet piracy, Arrrr!
But seriously, saw that same commercial before a movie in Japan too. Made me laugh, some hot girl started crying then her tears turned black and into skulls which eventually turned into a pirate flag. What a crock of shit. The real reason the record companies are upset is because most of the artists are producing absolute junk these days. People get a preview of it on the internet and then decide not to buy it, they probably even erase it from their computer cause it "just sucks that bad." Screw the MPAA and the Record companies. This revolution was in the making since 1991.
Submitted by downerSTAIN (user info) at 2005-07-03 22:39:32 EDT (#)
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Submitted by downerSTAIN (user info) at 2005-07-03 17:56:17 (#)
Ranking: -2
"Producers and artists become multi-millionaires through selling CD's"
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Wrong. Artists do not become rich from cd sales. Artists usually don't get more than a small percentage of cd sales, which is part of the reason I don't buy cds. The ones making the real money from cd sales are record producers, record execs, CEOs of record labels. Artists make the real money from touring and merchandise.
P.S. - Singing is real work, dipshit. Try to sing, in key, for more than an hour or two straight. Go ahead. Add moving around on stage, possibly playing an instrument. Then tell me singing isn't really work.
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Well, what are they complaining about then? If they did decent shows they'll still be rich.
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If you'll notice, most of the bands/artists bitching are the ones with the least talent, who put on shitty shows and depend heavily on record sales.
Submitted by downerSTAIN (user info) at 2005-07-03 22:37:29 EDT (#)
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Submitted by downerSTAIN (user info) at 2005-07-03 18:00:20 (#)
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"Burning CD's takes time and is a major pain in the arse."
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Wrong (unless you have a really shitty computer, which you probably do, since you built it, and you're a fucking tool). Burning a cd takes 10 minutes at the VERY MOST for me. Usually much less.
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Ten minutes?!?!?!? You're living in the past, man. But to get the CD off a friend burn it and all, easier to buy from the store, plus you get a better product.
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I said 10 minutes AT THE VERY MOST. Usually it takes about 3-5 minutes, but on occassion it will decide to be a dick and take forever. Also, downloading albums eliminates the "getting the cd from your friend" part, and you can usually find at least 128 kbps, usually higher, so the quality is about the same.
Submitted by jack0173 (user info) at 2005-07-03 21:46:34 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Avals (user info) at 2005-07-03 14:40:04 (#)
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What, are you suggesting the music companies actually get with the times and use the new medium to their advantage, instead of trying to sue everyone's asses off like some kind of modern crusade? Why, that's preposterous!
Fuckers should take a cue from Iron Maiden. I mean, these guys tell you straight up: 'You go ahead and download our shit'. Why? Because they trust their fans to buy it and support the group if they like the music. And guess what? I've got a couple of original Maiden CDs sitting on the shelf by me, despite the fact that I had their entire discography in MP3 form way before I bought these.
Shit, maybe they are on to something here?
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Agreed.
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Submitted by HadToBeDone (user info) at 2005-07-03 18:37:53 (#)
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Submitted by Supreme_Overlord (user info) at 2005-07-03 15:15:57 (#)
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I've built more computers than you have looked at porn on, and (with the exception of hardcore gamers) it is no longer WORTH building your own. There is no longer a real price advantage, and you end up with no warranty. And given the quality of parts these days, no warranty is a BAD idea.
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There is a price advantage still, maybe not as dramatic as in the past, but very real. It is WORTH it if you consider knowing something about the inside of your computer worth it. And the ability to upgrade components individually (although pre-built systems are allowing this more lately). Oh, and no warranty? You still have a warranty on all the parts you buy, and if a part is defective you can return it for a replacement. Are you sure that you've built computers before?
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1 year warranty on your video card, or 3 years on the whole system? Like I said, unless you're building a dual Athlon-64 gaming system, it's just as cheap to buy something.
Ever tried to RMA a part outside of the store's return period? You're without it for at least a month. In that time, you can't play your games, download your porn, or whatever it is you do. Sure, you could try to RAID your 2 smaller hard drives, but that's a lot more trouble than it's worth. Since you THINK you're gonna get a new one. Chances are, you won't get a new one. They'll replace components of your hard drive, or swap out the GPU on your $500 video card. You don't get NEW when you RMA to the company. REad the statement. You get new or reconditioned at the manufacturer's discretion. They don't usually ship out NEW parts for people. They rarely do it for enterprise customers.
Finally, yes, I build 12-15 systems in an average month. It's my night gig. I do it while I prove how superior I am to you people like you.
Anything else smart to say?
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Every time I look at package computers I think they're ok but a few tweaks and they'd be a shitload better. Building a computer means upgrading without voiding the warranty and having the system you really want.
And if you say you don't get new stuff when you return to the company, you think you do at computer stores? They do shit just as dodgy if it will save time and money.
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Submitted by downerSTAIN (user info) at 2005-07-03 17:56:17 (#)
Ranking: -2
"Producers and artists become multi-millionaires through selling CD's"
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Wrong. Artists do not become rich from cd sales. Artists usually don't get more than a small percentage of cd sales, which is part of the reason I don't buy cds. The ones making the real money from cd sales are record producers, record execs, CEOs of record labels. Artists make the real money from touring and merchandise.
P.S. - Singing is real work, dipshit. Try to sing, in key, for more than an hour or two straight. Go ahead. Add moving around on stage, possibly playing an instrument. Then tell me singing isn't really work.
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Well, what are they complaining about then? If they did decent shows they'll still be rich.
PS I am the fucking kareoke master.
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Submitted by FatTony (user info) at 2005-07-03 17:44:58 (#)
Ranking: -2
What the fuck is your problem? Piracy is a way of life, espically when you live in Los Angeles. I can get ANY movie on DVD for just five bucks and that is the way I want it. I don't want Disney DVDs to be $10 because I'll still buy the pirate. Even if they hit five bucks each, I'll still buy the damn pirate copy. Why? Omar needs my money more then Disney does. Fuck eminem, fuck Ice Cube, fuck who ever is selling a CD. I buy the copied version for two bucks and thats the end of that.
Don't stamp put piracy. Pirates have wives and kids that they need to support. If they are not pirates, they will turn to violent crime. Los Angeles is just a few miles from Hollywood. Keep fucking with the Pirates and they will move North and start killing and shooting people in Hollywood.
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You're a dickhead.
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Submitted by downerSTAIN (user info) at 2005-07-03 18:00:20 (#)
Ranking: -2
"Burning CD's takes time and is a major pain in the arse."
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Wrong (unless you have a really shitty computer, which you probably do, since you built it, and you're a fucking tool). Burning a cd takes 10 minutes at the VERY MOST for me. Usually much less.
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Ten minutes?!?!?!? You're living in the past, man. But to get the CD off a friend burn it and all, easier to buy from the store, plus you get a better product.
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Jim the fiend; You're a fucking wanker, just piss off. This article isn't about Eminem in case you hadn't noticed and hard to find movies are easier to find in the larger retail stores than in hire stores.
Submitted by HadToBeDone (user info) at 2005-07-03 18:37:53 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Supreme_Overlord (user info) at 2005-07-03 15:15:57 (#)
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I've built more computers than you have looked at porn on, and (with the exception of hardcore gamers) it is no longer WORTH building your own. There is no longer a real price advantage, and you end up with no warranty. And given the quality of parts these days, no warranty is a BAD idea.
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There is a price advantage still, maybe not as dramatic as in the past, but very real. It is WORTH it if you consider knowing something about the inside of your computer worth it. And the ability to upgrade components individually (although pre-built systems are allowing this more lately). Oh, and no warranty? You still have a warranty on all the parts you buy, and if a part is defective you can return it for a replacement. Are you sure that you've built computers before?
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1 year warranty on your video card, or 3 years on the whole system? Like I said, unless you're building a dual Athlon-64 gaming system, it's just as cheap to buy something.
Ever tried to RMA a part outside of the store's return period? You're without it for at least a month. In that time, you can't play your games, download your porn, or whatever it is you do. Sure, you could try to RAID your 2 smaller hard drives, but that's a lot more trouble than it's worth. Since you THINK you're gonna get a new one. Chances are, you won't get a new one. They'll replace components of your hard drive, or swap out the GPU on your $500 video card. You don't get NEW when you RMA to the company. REad the statement. You get new or reconditioned at the manufacturer's discretion. They don't usually ship out NEW parts for people. They rarely do it for enterprise customers.
Finally, yes, I build 12-15 systems in an average month. It's my night gig. I do it while I prove how superior I am to you people like you.
Anything else smart to say?
Submitted by jimthefiend (user info) at 2005-07-03 18:15:37 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Pirated Dvds... MMMMMMM
I have like 700 dvds (no joke) and at least fifty of them I burned myself. Yeah I buy stuff, ALOT OF IT, but fuck you and your whore mommy if you think I'm a dick for copying a couple of movies I rent from time to time. My main reason for doing it is availability. I mean who the fuck wants to order something that can't be found on store shelves when you can rent it and copy it. Besides, I am NOT paying 20 bucks for Legally Blonde. heh
So fuck you and Eminem.
Submitted by downerSTAIN (user info) at 2005-07-03 18:00:20 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
"Burning CD's takes time and is a major pain in the arse."
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Wrong (unless you have a really shitty computer, which you probably do, since you built it, and you're a fucking tool). Burning a cd takes 10 minutes at the VERY MOST for me. Usually much less.
"NB I have never ever pirated anything in my entire life and do not condone the actions of people who do."
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Pussy.
Submitted by downerSTAIN (user info) at 2005-07-03 17:56:17 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
"Producers and artists become multi-millionaires through selling CD's"
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Wrong. Artists do not become rich from cd sales. Artists usually don't get more than a small percentage of cd sales, which is part of the reason I don't buy cds. The ones making the real money from cd sales are record producers, record execs, CEOs of record labels. Artists make the real money from touring and merchandise.
P.S. - Singing is real work, dipshit. Try to sing, in key, for more than an hour or two straight. Go ahead. Add moving around on stage, possibly playing an instrument. Then tell me singing isn't really work.
Submitted by FatTony (user info) at 2005-07-03 17:44:58 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
What the fuck is your problem? Piracy is a way of life, espically when you live in Los Angeles. I can get ANY movie on DVD for just five bucks and that is the way I want it. I don't want Disney DVDs to be $10 because I'll still buy the pirate. Even if they hit five bucks each, I'll still buy the damn pirate copy. Why? Omar needs my money more then Disney does. Fuck eminem, fuck Ice Cube, fuck who ever is selling a CD. I buy the copied version for two bucks and thats the end of that.
Don't stamp put piracy. Pirates have wives and kids that they need to support. If they are not pirates, they will turn to violent crime. Los Angeles is just a few miles from Hollywood. Keep fucking with the Pirates and they will move North and start killing and shooting people in Hollywood.
Submitted by GaidinCanuck (user info) at 2005-07-03 17:19:50 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Agreed. Haven't bought a CD in years. And I don't pirate either.
Submitted by crazybutsolazy (user info) at 2005-07-03 16:50:17 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
I liked the article and I own a lot of eminem cd's also
Submitted by Sassmasterr (user info) at 2005-07-03 16:09:18 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
i'll only buy good stuff.
i try it out online, and if i like it, i'll dump $15-$20 on a cd.
i'm not gonna spend that much on a one-hit wonder and 12 ghey tracks.
Submitted by morontian (user info) at 2005-07-03 15:46:53 EDT (#)
Ranking: 1
Submitted by Avals (user info) at 2005-07-03 14:40:04 (#)
Ranking: 2
Fuckers should take a cue from Iron Maiden. I mean, these guys tell you straight up: 'You go ahead and download our shit'. Why? Because they trust their fans to buy it and support the group if they like the music. And guess what? I've got a couple of original Maiden CDs sitting on the shelf by me, despite the fact that I had their entire discography in MP3 form way before I bought these.
Shit, maybe they are on to something here?
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Musical artists who compliment thier package with engaging visuals will always stand a much better chance at avoiding piracy.
I've always been so torn on this issue. On one hand; burning cd's from a new artist can spread buzz to people who can't afford to take chances on wasting $15-20 on something and only enjoy that one song. I recently took it in the ass from Killswitch Engage. Plus, the royalties that most artists get (especially new ones) are set at such a low rate that they really take forever to break even with the advance given by the company. New artist make all thier money on the road.
Having said that, the ones who may be affected by piracy are the mid-level artists who actually do see some return from royalties. And of course, high-level artists have royalties and kick-backs coming from so many different directions that it is pretty much negligible(sp?) Still, it is that musician's work and trade and they deserve compensation. It takes a lot of heart to stick with an artform when you get no money for it and everyone else feels they are *entitled* to that piece of you just because you deal in an abstract ware such as sound.
And to say singing isn't work? That is a lie. Beyond the physical demands of keeping yourself in shape (and by that I don't mean thin) and the torture that can be touring, there is the pyschological pressure of knowing you are out there alone everytime, and that everytime is just as important as the next or the last. There are reasons behind albums like "The Wall," "Tommy," "Wish You Were Here," and "The Crimson Idol" (+2 to who can name that last one without looking it up). Musicians don't have the ease of life many think they do.
There are so many grey areas in this arguement that it will never be settled, especially when you bring in dvd's and operating systems. I think my overall opinion is that if it is shared information then it is basically ok, however, if someone is trying to make money off pirated material then that is bullshit and they need to get a job.
Submitted by HurtByTheSun (user info) at 2005-07-03 15:38:00 EDT (#)
Ranking: 1
The real point about music piracy is exposure. Pirating an album may not be good for business but it gets the name of a band about. These people then go out and buy concert tickets, which is where the profit is at. Factor in T-Shirts and merchandise deals and shit and it's all there. How do you think bands like Maximo Park get big? Word of mouth, man.
P.S. The only Eminem album worth listening to is "Infinite".
Submitted by jimthefiend (user info) at 2005-07-03 15:37:52 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
"PS You have a small cock too. Goddamn I should have -2ed that one."
You figured that out from THAT pic? Whoa. You're good. Just wait til SPT you fucking little wanna be porch monkey. I'll get you and your little dog too.
P.s. Eminem sucks jizz out of Vanilla Ice's ass.
Submitted by BillsSBChamps (user info) at 2005-07-03 15:21:13 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
hadtobegay is on quite the faggy little rampage today. I think his mommy took away his gay porn collection and his boyfriend forgot the reach around.
Submitted by Supreme_Overlord (user info) at 2005-07-03 15:15:57 EDT (#)
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I've built more computers than you have looked at porn on, and (with the exception of hardcore gamers) it is no longer WORTH building your own. There is no longer a real price advantage, and you end up with no warranty. And given the quality of parts these days, no warranty is a BAD idea.
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There is a price advantage still, maybe not as dramatic as in the past, but very real. It is WORTH it if you consider knowing something about the inside of your computer worth it. And the ability to upgrade components individually (although pre-built systems are allowing this more lately). Oh, and no warranty? You still have a warranty on all the parts you buy, and if a part is defective you can return it for a replacement. Are you sure that you've built computers before?
Submitted by HadToBeDone (user info) at 2005-07-03 15:02:02 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
If this weren't the case though, I would be running Linux right now (package computers with Windows bundled are for pussies; be a man, build your own computer).
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I've built more computers than you have looked at porn on, and (with the exception of hardcore gamers) it is no longer WORTH building your own. There is no longer a real price advantage, and you end up with no warranty. And given the quality of parts these days, no warranty is a BAD idea.
Jesus, you're a fuckin poser.
Submitted by Avals (user info) at 2005-07-03 14:40:04 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
What, are you suggesting the music companies actually get with the times and use the new medium to their advantage, instead of trying to sue everyone's asses off like some kind of modern crusade? Why, that's preposterous!
Fuckers should take a cue from Iron Maiden. I mean, these guys tell you straight up: 'You go ahead and download our shit'. Why? Because they trust their fans to buy it and support the group if they like the music. And guess what? I've got a couple of original Maiden CDs sitting on the shelf by me, despite the fact that I had their entire discography in MP3 form way before I bought these.
Shit, maybe they are on to something here?
Submitted by Pr0j3ct (user info) at 2005-07-03 14:15:47 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
"Not a bad post, but the disclaimer at the end is kind of homosexual."
^^^HAHAHAHAHAHAHA^^^^^
Submitted by jack0173 (user info) at 2005-07-03 13:55:36 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Submitted by jimthefiend (user info) at 2005-07-03 13:45:29 (#)
Ranking: -2
You DID in fact steal half of that, your writing sucks and you're a beligerent child.
THAT'S why you got the initial +/- 0.
And don't give me any bullshit claiming that wasn't a spiteful -2. I'm not stupid.
Now pull your fucking pants up wigger, no one wants to see your underwear.
P.s. Eminem is a fucking no talent scrawny little cunt and you suck for wasting your mommys money buying his cds. His crap isn't WORTH the 2 cents of plastic that the drivel gets recorded onto.
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Honest to God, that was not spiteful. IF YOU HAD -2ED ME MAYBE I WOULD HAVE A REASON, BUT YOU DIDN'T SO I DIDN'T.
YOUR POST WAS FUCKING SHIT. I went and had a look a at a bunch of your other posts just out of curiosity and you're fucking lucky I didn't -2 them: not out of spite but BECAUSE THEY FUCKING SUCK.
Unlike you though, I'm not a petty peice of shit.
And fuck you, if you can think you're a pirate (do I hear Maddox rip-off?) I can listen to Eminem.
My article has completely different reasons for countering music industry arguments than Maddox's does. His isn't even about piracy for fuck's sake.
PS You have a small cock too. Goddamn I should have -2ed that one.
Submitted by jimthefiend (user info) at 2005-07-03 13:45:29 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
You DID in fact steal half of that, your writing sucks and you're a beligerent child.
THAT'S why you got the initial +/- 0.
And don't give me any bullshit claiming that wasn't a spiteful -2. I'm not stupid.
Now pull your fucking pants up wigger, no one wants to see your underwear.
P.s. Eminem is a fucking no talent scrawny little cunt and you suck for wasting your mommys money buying his cds. His crap isn't WORTH the 2 cents of plastic that the drivel gets recorded onto.
Submitted by jack0173 (user info) at 2005-07-03 13:38:55 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Submitted by jimthefiend (user info) at 2005-07-03 13:25:59 (#)
Ranking: -2
Since you had to run over like a bitch and -2 me, here's one for you.
There will be LOTS more from me in your future.
Grow the fuck up.
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Um what? I don't look at names, just articles. I posted mine, then started reading other people's. I mean you didn't even -2 me, why would I do it to you? Your fucking photo was JUST NOT FUNNY. It took ages to load and it was fucking shit. -2 the hell out of me, I don't give a fuck about ratings, I just like to see what other people think about issues that interest me.
When I rate posts I think did it entertain/amuse/interest me? If yes positive rating and vice versa.
You fat cunt.
Submitted by jack0173 (user info) at 2005-07-03 13:26:48 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
Submitted by ICO (user info) at 2005-07-03 13:19:16 (#)
Ranking: 1
You pirated the first half of this article from Maddox. He elaborates cost of printing cd's and stuff, and you just ramble on. Not a bad post, but the disclaimer at the end is kind of homosexual. Afraid of the rozzers nabbing you by the sack?
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But then doesn't he talk about how they cost more than cassettes? I think my article has a completely different thrust to his. And I don't think you can say I pirated this article because of three lines of statistics we both share.
And:
Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2005-07-03 12:54:51 (#)
Ranking: 1
I love the disclaimer at the end!
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I thought it was funny(ish).
Submitted by jimthefiend (user info) at 2005-07-03 13:25:59 EDT (#)
Ranking: -2
Since you had to run over like a bitch and -2 me, here's one for you.
There will be LOTS more from me in your future.
Grow the fuck up.
Submitted by Circe (user info) at 2005-07-03 13:24:00 EDT (#)
Ranking: 2
Jesus people are harsh.
I liked the post.
I listen to Eminem. AND I LIKE IT.
You now know my secret shame.
Submitted by ICO (user info) at 2005-07-03 13:19:16 EDT (#)
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You pirated the first half of this article from Maddox. He elaborates cost of printing cd's and stuff, and you just ramble on. Not a bad post, but the disclaimer at the end is kind of homosexual. Afraid of the rozzers nabbing you by the sack?
Submitted by jack0173 (user info) at 2005-07-03 13:01:08 EDT (#)
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Submitted by jimthefiend (user info) at 2005-07-03 12:57:38 (#)
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"Submitted by JACK0173 (View user info) at 2005-07-03 12:51:55
I mean Eminem is a good artist and all, "
And that's where I stopped reading.
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Your loss.
Submitted by jimthefiend (user info) at 2005-07-03 12:57:38 EDT (#)
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"Submitted by JACK0173 (View user info) at 2005-07-03 12:51:55
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I mean Eminem is a good artist and all, "
And that's where I stopped reading.
Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2005-07-03 12:54:51 EDT (#)
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I love the disclaimer at the end!