Why I respect Israelis more than Americans and British (4167 hits)
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Submitted by Adam™ (View user info) at 2005-07-07 10:56:40 EDT
Because they have balls.
BIG FUCKING BALLS
They have resolve.
They don't make these stupid fucking speeches about "staying the course of freedom" or anything else cliché like that.
In case you have brain damage, and have been unable to discern what it is I'm talking about, it's terrorists.
After 9/11 here in this country, everything has become one incredible pain in the ass. I can no longer go to the terminal of the airport without 6 forms of picture ID and sample of my genetic code on DVD. I was at the airport just this past weekend, returning from Tampa, and let me tell you some of the things I noticed have changed.
A woman who was having trouble removing her shoes, because she was like seventy, set her purse down on a box that was directly next to where they were instructing her to do so. The TSA didn't help her, but they freaked the fuck out because apparently she had set it down on the super ultra sensitive bomb detection unit, which had some fancy acronym which I can't remember.
They pulled her off to the side, and killed her whole family, then had a crew of three hundred people cleaning the machine. Tell me why doesn't the thing have a cover? All it has to prevent things like that from happening is one 5" x 5" sticker pasted on the side.
Of course they made me open my toiletry kit, because as a close personal friend of James Bond, I have access to plastique that comes out of a shaving cream can.
I remembered to leave my nail clippers, because I'd hate to have the swat team repel off the roof and shatter all that glass on everyone again.
NEWS FLASH: If you can hijack a plane with nail clippers you are fucking awesome. You deserve to take the plane, hell they should give you a prize for it. Luckily they have also taken all the plastic knives off the planes too, I mean after all plastic ware was the weapon of choice for the Roman Empire for over a thousand years.
I swear if anyone threatened me with a plastic knife, I'd spork the shit out of them right on the spot. It's like paper-rock-scissors only I have fork and knife at the same time, so I'd HAVE to win.
I can remember when catching a plane wasn't an incredible pain in my dick. I can remember being allowed to go directly to the gate to either see some one off or greet someone when the disembark.
But the government has seen fit to put an end to that, and has consequentially invalidated countless endings to sappy classic movies.
I was reading about the new "Freedom Tower" (Way to go assholes, what a clever fucking name!) and it was talking about how it's going to have all these state of the art protection systems against terrorist attacks. Now this is just me, but if I were a terrorist, I wouldn't attack the same place twice, especially considering that they have designed the building around deflecting such attacks, and that there are only like 10,000 other buildings with no such protection left in the US.
The gods honest truth is we're not any safer than we were before 9/11. OK maybe we are based on the fact that our citizens are aware of what can happen with a terrorist attack, but the 78 layers of bureaucracy that we've added haven't really added anything other than a pain in my ass.
Now there is Britain.
What happened to you guys?
You used to be the most war mongering people on the fucking planet. Hell you're like the drunken stepdad who we learned from. There wasn't a continent or island on the planet you hadn't just shot the shit out of just because, and now look at you.
Terrorists bomb you and you're looking to bail the fuck out.
If it had been the French a hundred years ago, I'm pretty sure you'd have 3.5 million Englishmen clamoring on boats to get across the channel to open a can of whoop ass.
Yea, yea, whatever it's America's fault that the world hates us, and you for listening to us.
That's just plain retarded. You're big boys, you can make your own decisions.
Don't get pissed at indirect causes, get pissed at direct causes.
Which brings me to Israel.
BAD-ASS-MOTHER-FUCKER
No matter what gets thrown at them, they're always standing tall with one hand on their nuts the other proudly giving their Arab neighbors the finger.
You might be saying and eye for an eye and we all go blind, but I'd say if poke my eye out and I have a shitload of tanks and fighter jets, you can be damn sure it's not just your eye I'm going to put out.
I know, I know, war only causes more problems in the long run.
The line has to come up somewhere. The way of life in the US is forever changed. Spain has been relegated to a mute in the international community. If Britain follows suit and withdrawals, you can be sure that the rest of the "allies" will follow suit, and once you fall from power it's a LONG climb back to the top.
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Submitted by Life101 (user info) at 2006-07-26 17:01:18 EDT (#)
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+2 for post
-4 for political cartoon
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2006-07-26 16:49:38 EDT (#)
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Jews are kicking ass right now
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2006-06-01 14:18:22 EDT (#)
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Well the Israelies sure do know how to grow a cracking strawberry.
Submitted by SidewinderGunnar (user info) at 2006-06-01 14:14:49 EDT (#)
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This is serousley the funniest fuckin thing i have ever heard :D :D :D
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2006-06-01 13:58:49 EDT (#)
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i need Derkavision
Submitted by Axolotl (user info) at 2006-06-01 12:39:07 EDT (#)
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Nominated for best ever
http://www.ubersite.com/m/88623
Submitted by Avals (user info) at 2005-07-13 13:01:28 EDT (#)
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http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1121221096896
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The death toll in the bombing in Netanya rose to four on Wednesday after a fourth woman died of her wounds.
Three women were killed outright and 70 more wounded when an Islamic Jihad suicide bomber blew himself up outside a crowded Netanya mall Tuesday evening.
The blast shattered a relative lull in such attacks since the last Islamic Jihad bombing in February.
Anya Lifschitz, 50, died Wednesday at Laniado Hospital in Netanya of wounds suffered in the terror attack. Her daughter is in very serious but stable condition with multiple system injuries at the Rabin Medical Center-Beilinson Campus in Petah Tikva, while her three-a-and-half-year-old daughter, in serious but stable condition, is being treated for burns and wounds at nearby Schneider Children's Medical Center for Israel.
Submitted by Avals (user info) at 2005-07-13 01:47:35 EDT (#)
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http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1121135420405
http://www.jpost.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=JPost/JPArticle/ShowFull&cid=1121221095248
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Three people, all women, were killed and 90 more wounded when an Islamic Jihad suicide bomber blew himself up outside a crowded Netanya mall Tuesday evening. The blast shattered a relative lull in such attacks since the last Islamic Jihad bombing in February.
As of Wednesday morning none of the victims' names had been made public, although one woman was said to be 31 years old, while two were identified as 16-year-old Tel Aviv teenagers, according to Israel Radio.
On Wednesday morning, 39 people are still hospitalized, of them one is listed in critical condition while two others suffer from serious wounds. Among the wounded are a grandmother (52), her daughter (26) and her granddaughter (3).
An hour before the Netanya bomber struck, another Palestinian - possibly an unwilling bomber, since reports said he was a suspected collaborator who had been abducted and chained to the wheel of his vehicle - drove a pickup loaded with cooking gas canisters into the West Bank settlement of Shavei Shomron. The charge detonated and he sustained serious burns.
The Prime Minister's Office vowed a "heavy handed response" to the two terrorist attacks but would not specify when, or in what form, that response would take.
Israel's security barrier, which snakes primarily along the Green Line from the Jordan Valley to the city of Rosh Ha'ayin in Israel's center, was built specifically to prevent such attacks, and has hitherto been highly effective in the Netanya area.
The suicide bomber, 18-year-old Ahmed Sami Abu Halil from the village of Atil near Tulkarm, belonged to Islamic Jihad, a terrorist group that refused to sign on to Palestinian Authority Chairman Mahmoud Abbas's tahdiya (period of calm). Security sources believed the same Tulkarm-based cell was responsible for both of Tuesday's attacks and for the February bombing of the Stage nightclub in Tel Aviv.
The Netanya blast occurred on the crosswalk just outside the packed Sharon Shopping Mall at rush hour. The force of the blast popped hubcaps off nearby cars and sent razor-sharp shards of glass flying dozens of meters.
Two of the wounded were in critical condition, six sustained serious wounds and seven suffered moderate wounds, medics said. The wounded were evacuated to area hospitals Hillel Yaffe and Laniado.
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In response to Tuesday's suicide bombing in Netanya, which claimed the lives of three Israelis and wounded 95 others, IDF forces took control of the northern West Bank city of Tulkarm late Tuesday night, while senior Israeli officials promised Wednesday morning to hit the Islamic Jihad terrorist organization hard, Israel Radio reported.
Paratroopers, Nahal infantry units, elite troops and border policemen participated in the operation, while a general closure was placed on the West Bank and Gaza.
The operation included IDF activity in the village of Atil, which is under Israeli security control, and was the home of 18 year-old suicide bomber, Ahmed Sami Abu-Halil.
Senior Israeli officials said that the purpose of the operation was to destroy the Islamic Jihad infrastructure in the city and that the IDF would remain in control of Tulkarm "for as long as is needed." The city was handed over to Palestinian security control three months ago.
According to IDF sources, two soldiers were lightly wounded during an exchange of gunfire, while an armed Palestinian was killed and another was critically wounded.
The two wounded IDF soldiers were evacuated to Beilinson Hospital in Petah Tikva.
Palestinian sources said that the killed Palestinian belonged to a branch of the PA security services, which were taken by surprise by the IDF operation.
Normally, said the Palestinian source, the IDF informs the PA security services prior to similar operations, which was not the case Tuesday night.
In addition, five members of Islamic Jihad were apprehended and taken for questioning, and caches of weapons were uncovered.
Defense Minister Shaul Mofaz ordered a halt to any contacts with the PA until further notice. He also instructed the defense establishment to prepare a detailed plan to crack down on the Islamic Jihad.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2005-07-11 19:46:21 EDT (#)
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whoops
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2005-07-11 19:45:22 EDT (#)
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Shit my comment just dissapeared again...fucking ubersite.
OK lets type it again.
-2 for pic...When did you save us before and how are you saving us now?
+2 for simply being a well written non'get the fuck off of uber you cunt' type post
-1 for saying we're looking to pull out, are you nuts? spirit of the Blitz and all that, apart from losing parts of the Empire, we don't tend to quit.
Submitted by munkeypants (user info) at 2005-07-11 16:26:01 EDT (#)
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NEWS FLASH: If you can hijack a plane with nail clippers you are fucking awesome. You deserve to take the plane, hell they should give you a prize for it. Luckily they have also taken all the plastic knives off the planes too, I mean after all plastic ware was the weapon of choice for the Roman Empire for over a thousand years.
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+2 for that
Submitted by Naery (user info) at 2005-07-11 03:03:31 EDT (#)
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how about indymedia.org ?? ever been there? lots of good... uhm... goodness... there.
Submitted by Alaskanite (user info) at 2005-07-11 02:30:25 EDT (#)
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old old old old boring old seen it seen it
+1 for the pic
Submitted by AlwaysAnEagle (user info) at 2005-07-10 09:56:01 EDT (#)
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I'm giving this a plus two because it cracked my shit up.
This is one of those political things where I kind of agree and yet I also wouldn't want to see every country in the world just running around Israeling it up by whomping the shit out of everyone who pissed them off.
Submitted by Phallic_Cymbals (user info) at 2005-07-10 02:58:21 EDT (#)
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There were fathoms of +2 material in hyah.
Submitted by ScoobyDont (user info) at 2005-07-10 00:20:48 EDT (#)
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Dude, sweet pussy is the reason I admire Israel.
Submitted by WellFedEthiopian (user info) at 2005-07-10 00:09:47 EDT (#)
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"NEWS FLASH: If you can hijack a plane with nail clippers you are fucking awesome. You deserve to take the plane, hell they should give you a prize for it."
Classic.
Submitted by cheruboo (user info) at 2005-07-09 22:20:34 EDT (#)
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Submitted by stupidsexyflanders (user info) at 2005-07-09 20:27:23 EDT (#)
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Thanks for this informative piece of writing. I can tell you are extremely well educated in Arab-Israeli history and politics.
Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2005-07-09 17:00:28 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Method (user info) at 2005-07-09 10:04:56 (#)
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I think that if we sent Cindy to every muslim country to dance around with nothing but pasties on her gigundo funbags, we wouldn't be having these problems.
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I've never been to a Muslim country. I'll do thid for the good of mankind. ETS- please set up a paypal account for me to pay for the fare and that.
Submitted by fudgepacker (user info) at 2005-07-09 16:38:34 EDT (#)
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how did i miss this?
how?
you rock, dude.
and yes...they have huge fucking balls.
Submitted by mikethescottish (user info) at 2005-07-09 15:49:29 EDT (#)
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Hummm... good post, but holding Israel as a paragon of military virtue is a bit too much for me.
Submitted by Method (user info) at 2005-07-09 10:04:56 EDT (#)
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I think that if we sent Cindy to every muslim country to dance around with nothing but pasties on her gigundo funbags, we wouldn't be having these problems.
Submitted by jack0173 (user info) at 2005-07-09 03:43:20 EDT (#)
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Submitted by MrSparkle847 (user info) at 2005-07-08 21:12:11 EDT (#)
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My favorite lines from this:
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Of course they made me open my toiletry kit, because as a close personal friend of James Bond, I have access to plastique that comes out of a shaving cream can.
It's like paper-rock-scissors only I have fork and knife at the same time, so I'd HAVE to win.
You might be saying and eye for an eye and we all go blind, but I'd say if poke my eye out and I have a shitload of tanks and fighter jets, you can be damn sure it's not just your eye I'm going to put out.
Submitted by Revolutionman (user info) at 2005-07-08 17:09:04 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-07-08 13:52:45 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Unabonger (user info) at 2005-07-08 09:40:25 (#)
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only a moron eats up what's fed to him in any country when it comes to media. but the best source for news in a specific country, is the media sources for other countrys.
for instance, BBC is much better at relaying what's going on in America that CNN or Fox is.
BBC, CBC, News Now, EBN, and EU observer aren't affected by the political parties in America.
I haven't lived anywhere else so I don't know if this is a problem in every country, but our news is political crap. We hear what our political parties want us to hear...and then, to top it all off like someone out there is saying "IN YO FACE, BITCH!", we're told the news is 'unbiased' and 'you decide'.
well thanks, fuckhole. i'm glad you're giving me the opportunity to decide what to think after you feeding me swayed information.
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I see what you are saying, I just don't understand why people think America is worse at this than anywhere else. Different news stations here have different political leanings, just like with newspapers and magazines. Especially when it comes to Bush and this administration, they are just, if not more, critical of him then they were of Clinton. Nad it is incredably easy here to get BBC on cable, or to look up news from any source on the web.
Submitted by Unabonger (user info) at 2005-07-08 09:40:25 EDT (#)
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only a moron eats up what's fed to him in any country when it comes to media. but the best source for news in a specific country, is the media sources for other countrys.
for instance, BBC is much better at relaying what's going on in America that CNN or Fox is.
BBC, CBC, News Now, EBN, and EU observer aren't affected by the political parties in America.
I haven't lived anywhere else so I don't know if this is a problem in every country, but our news is political crap. We hear what our political parties want us to hear...and then, to top it all off like someone out there is saying "IN YO FACE, BITCH!", we're told the news is 'unbiased' and 'you decide'.
well thanks, fuckhole. i'm glad you're giving me the opportunity to decide what to think after you feeding me swayed information.
Submitted by Viciousriffs (user info) at 2005-07-07 23:18:54 EDT (#)
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Christ, I'm not reading all those ratings...
But I was with you all the way on this line of thought.
Submitted by Tokerson (user info) at 2005-07-07 17:57:07 EDT (#)
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I agree.
Submitted by Snark (user info) at 2005-07-07 17:13:54 EDT (#)
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Indoninja,
Bro,
How do you not see it then?
I see it just from comparing Canadian News to US News.
If you ever get a chance, I suggest you check out "The Fifth Estate" and "The Passionate Eye"
The Canuck versions of shows like 20/20.
Ok, I'm gonna stop camping now. Cheers for a worthwhile topic Adam.
Submitted by Snark (user info) at 2005-07-07 17:09:51 EDT (#)
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Oh yeah, Petra.
http://www.petra.gov.jo/Default.asp <-------- Not good for facts but good for an alternative point of view.
Fucking King owns it.
Submitted by Snark (user info) at 2005-07-07 17:05:35 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2005-07-07 16:19:04 (#)
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Here are the news links I have on my browser, this is where 90% of my info comes from:
If there are better sources, I'd love to see them.
(I have tried to read Al Jazeera, but just can't get into it)
http://www.cbc.ca/news/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/ (Local Paper)
http://today.reuters.com/news/default.aspx
http://www.nytimes.com (You may scream LIBERAL, but they still have excellent articles)
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About the same as I have. Al Jazeera is Al Crap
Here's some stuff to mix in that you might find useful:
http://service.spiegel.de/cache/international/0,1518,,00.html <--- Der Spiegel! Mein Strudel!
http://www.truthout.org/ <--- Really have to take it with a grain of salt but read between the lines and it's an interesting counterbalance to the regular stuff.
http://www.chomsky.info/ <---- Just his website. Pull what you want from his opinions. One of the most mezmerizing speakers I've ever seen.
http://www.ireland.com/ <-------- Kinda Useless
I have much more at home. This is the shit I remembered and was able to pull up at work.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-07-07 16:27:10 EDT (#)
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I am off for the day, so I am probably done here, but I wanted to mention a few things.
Snark, how can you say media is so bad because you have th einternet, doesn't that mean that anyone can look stuff up?
I have lived outside of the US for a while and the only difference in the Media that I noticed was that the US news often spends too much time on itself (at least for me). But I think foreign news spends too much time on the US though, so I can hardly blame media in the US for doing it.
Most people here who watch news have cable, most people who have cable also have CNN international, and probably have the internet. There are ample sources in the US to get news from other countries, so I am confused as to why a lot of people (especially people who have never left the US, or never been to the US) always seem to think there is a problem with the media here.
Anyway I am out.
Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2005-07-07 16:19:04 EDT (#)
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Here are the news links I have on my browser, this is where 90% of my info comes from:
If there are better sources, I'd love to see them.
(I have tried to read Al Jazeera, but just can't get into it)
http://www.cbc.ca/news/
http://news.bbc.co.uk/
http://www.sun-sentinel.com/ (Local Paper)
http://today.reuters.com/news/default.aspx
http://www.nytimes.com (You may scream LIBERAL, but they still have excellent articles)
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-07-07 16:14:14 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Snark (user info) at 2005-07-07 16:03:21 (#)
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Have you guys ever lived anywhere else?
Can you tell me why you think the news here is so skewed, even though you have no way to compare it?
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I do live somewhere else.
I have lived other places.
Also, there's this thing called the Intraweb....
Wake up.
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Please enlighten me and tell me why the media is so bad in the US then.
Oh yeah you have the interweb, so just like most people in the US who read the paper you have access to news from all over.
Submitted by Snark (user info) at 2005-07-07 16:03:21 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-07-07 16:02:18 (#)
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Submitted by Snark (user info) at 2005-07-07 15:54:03 (#)
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Submitted by Chinaski (user info) at 2005-07-07 15:46:50 (#)
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How do you know what the news tells you is the truth, you dumb lackey?
I don't see how you can even purport to have your own opinion when every truth is hidden behind layers of subterfuge and political lies.
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Haleluja for that.
US News, not just Fox, is scary.
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Have you guys ever lived anywhere else?
Can you tell me why you think the news here is so skewed, even though you have no way to compare it?
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I do live somewhere else.
I have lived other places.
Also, there's this thing called the Intraweb....
Wake up.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-07-07 16:02:18 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Snark (user info) at 2005-07-07 15:54:03 (#)
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Submitted by Chinaski (user info) at 2005-07-07 15:46:50 (#)
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How do you know what the news tells you is the truth, you dumb lackey?
I don't see how you can even purport to have your own opinion when every truth is hidden behind layers of subterfuge and political lies.
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Haleluja for that.
US News, not just Fox, is scary.
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Have you guys ever lived anywhere else?
Can you tell me why you think the news here is so skewed, even though you have no way to compare it?
Submitted by Snark (user info) at 2005-07-07 16:01:45 EDT (#)
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OMG UR SO RIGHT
I AM RETARDED CAUSE I DON'T GET THE SUPER SECRET BROADCASTS YOU GET!
Are you for real?
Go read what you typed, it's easily one of the stupidest things I've ever read. I make sure I inform myself (and not via cable news) about what is happening.
Unless you work for the UN as a top aide I doubt your info is any different than mine.
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Depends on where he's from actually.
For what it's worth. I'm taking it for granted that you read between the lines where the News is concerned.
I pretty much got that impression from your last couple of posts.
Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2005-07-07 15:59:21 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Chinaski (user info) at 2005-07-07 15:46:50 (#)
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How do you know what the news tells you is the truth, you dumb lackey?
I don't see how you can even purport to have your own opinion when every truth is hidden behind layers of subterfuge and political lies.
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OMG UR SO RIGHT
I AM RETARDED CAUSE I DON'T GET THE SUPER SECRET BROADCASTS YOU GET!
Are you for real?
Go read what you typed, it's easily one of the stupidest things I've ever read. I make sure I inform myself (and not via cable news) about what is happening.
Unless you work for the UN as a top aide I doubt your info is any different than mine.
Submitted by Snark (user info) at 2005-07-07 15:54:03 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Chinaski (user info) at 2005-07-07 15:46:50 (#)
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How do you know what the news tells you is the truth, you dumb lackey?
I don't see how you can even purport to have your own opinion when every truth is hidden behind layers of subterfuge and political lies.
======================
Haleluja for that.
US News, not just Fox, is scary.
Submitted by Chinaski (user info) at 2005-07-07 15:46:50 EDT (#)
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How do you know what the news tells you is the truth, you dumb lackey?
I don't see how you can even purport to have your own opinion when every truth is hidden behind layers of subterfuge and political lies.
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2005-07-07 15:23:14 EDT (#)
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no arguments here...Hey have you seen Red Dawn lately??
Submitted by Snark (user info) at 2005-07-07 15:09:42 EDT (#)
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You can't compare this to world war two.
WW2 = The enemy is over there, lets go kill them.
Terrorism = We better check the internet to see who just bombed us.
You want to compare this to something, compare it to Vietnam.
Most wars can be won but no one ever really figured out how to beat Vietnam.
It's easy to sit back and say the US lost because they pulled out too early, or because they didn't go into North Vietnam or didn't commit fully to the fight. The truth is, you don't know for sure.
There are no discernible lines of engagement here. There are only psychopaths hot with the doctrin of Radical Islam. They're being born in Syria and Jordan and Palestine and Chechnya etc etc etc.
They're the offspring of the offspring of US/NATO bombs (Political or otherwise).
Maybe Bush's approach is the only one (yeah right). Maybe we should be sending troops into any country that harbours terrorist, which is to say, we should go to war with the middle east. (Someting tells me China wouldn't like that much)
But then the governments of most of the countries involved there don't openly espouse known terrorist organizations and the majority of their populace follow a much less radical form of Islam, so then maybe if we do that, we're not really fighting the terrorists... but creating more...
Maybe we shouldn't stop there... maybe we should attack any country that unknowingly harbours Terrorist groups.
But then we would have to attack ourselves.
It's easy to say go to War, and easier to say don't give up.
Keep an eye on Israel if you like the idea of a war against Ahkmed and his brothers, 57 years of conflict is a long time.
Don't forget. It's war that creates men willing to strap himself into a bomb and drive into a tank.
You have to know your enemy to defeat him. Do we really know ours?
Understand him.
Find him.
Sympathize with him.
And then wipe him from the planet.
War comes last you assholes.
Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2005-07-07 14:17:34 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Unabonger (user info) at 2005-07-07 14:13:38 (#)
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after we spend billions on making our air traffic safe, they'll bomb something we hadn't thought of. We'll never be safe from terror. we never have been...we just know it now.
everyone else in the world has gotten fucked up at one point or another. everyone else knows they're not safe. we're just fucktards about it.
we think "OMFGlolz@!one! we got assraped! quick, throw money in a trash can and set fire to it! ahhhhhhhhh that's better!"
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This man is a genius, somebody fly him to Stokholm ASAP for his prize
This has got to be the best reply yet
Submitted by Unabonger (user info) at 2005-07-07 14:13:38 EDT (#)
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after we spend billions on making our air traffic safe, they'll bomb something we hadn't thought of. We'll never be safe from terror. we never have been...we just know it now.
everyone else in the world has gotten fucked up at one point or another. everyone else knows they're not safe. we're just fucktards about it.
we think "OMFGlolz@!one! we got assraped! quick, throw money in a trash can and set fire to it! ahhhhhhhhh that's better!"
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-07-07 14:10:55 EDT (#)
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ATTACK CHINA!!11 TAYOOOOOOOOOOOOOH!
Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2005-07-07 14:06:55 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Dead_0hi0_Sky (user info) at 2005-07-07 14:02:45 (#)
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sorry.
i've just never been this pissed. i mean, i've walked those streets, taken those shuttles before.
pardon the blind anger, but if this happened to people and places you cherish, you'd understand a bit more.
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Understandable, this was more about starting an intelligent debate about a response, rather then a "who's to blame" that I saw this morning.
Submitted by Dead_0hi0_Sky (user info) at 2005-07-07 14:02:45 EDT (#)
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sorry.
i've just never been this pissed. i mean, i've walked those streets, taken those shuttles before.
pardon the blind anger, but if this happened to people and places you cherish, you'd understand a bit more.
Submitted by Snark (user info) at 2005-07-07 14:01:27 EDT (#)
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Another very well stated post.
Problem is, Israel's approach to the problem hasn't helped them one iota.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-07-07 13:57:32 EDT (#)
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Submitted by HadToBeDone (user info) at 2005-07-07 13:30:41 (#)
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The nation of Israel would not exist except for the support of America and Europe. They would have been EASILY re-assimilated by their Arab neighbors. They have their own military technology now, but only because others propped them up to give them time to develop it.
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When the british Mandate gave them land they gave them almost no support. They made their own farms, factories, trade, and lives there. They were not backwards like the palestinians and since they were doing all of this with modern techniques they soon had very envious neighbors. at first they were fine with the local muslime because they both benefitted from the trade, but soon jealousy and preassure from other arab groups caused conflict. The Israeli's kicked ass. they kicked ass by themselves.
They built settlements and farms on hills, do you know what a pain in the ass that is. Do you know why they built them there? Upper ground, to fight off invaders. They were badasses before US help, and are now even more so.
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Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2005-07-07 13:54:36 (#)
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Knee Jerk reactions are exactly what they crave
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Then I say we give them what they want - a massive military knee jerk reaction, right in their stinking crotches.
Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2005-07-07 13:54:36 EDT (#)
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Submitted by The_Yellow_Dart (user info) at 2005-07-07 12:57:45 (#)
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Lets use an anaolgy (and sorry bout the yesterday typo, don't know where my brain is)
If you're in a busy market and a guy gets up from a large group at a cafe and trips someone then goes back and high fives his friends do you do nothing about it because your scared of the retribuiton of his freinds?
So another comes out and gut punches a kid.
Now do you do something?
No?
Now they see they are intimidating everyone.
Sure you and your friends can't take them on, but if all the folks in the market chrarged over there and whooped some ass, do you think they'd be back tomorrow to do the same thing. Sure they'd be pissed about getting their asses kicked.
Sure they'd want retribution, but if they knew that them conducting violence would bring about a rousing reaction, don't you think they'd probably think twice?
That's the problem, the western world has become a bunch of folks at the market who just want to buy a few things and go home in hopes they aren't next. They want to smile meekly and move along hoping they'll get tired and go home.
They won't
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Horrible analogy by the way. That has nothing to do with terrorism. I don't think you even grasp the concept of terrorism yet even though cindy explained it to you.
Saying that all arabs agree with, and are for, terrorism is like saying all white people supported the klu klux klan. Only a select few actually do, and they're hard to differentiate from the majority. In Iraq, if someone there hates America, it's more likely to be because they feel they're being punished by the Americans for something someone did in their society that they're in no way connected to, other than their skin colour, not because they're a terrorist. They probably feel the same way the British are feeling right now (or the Americans felt during 9/11) when an American bomb strays off course and kills their loved ones. Of course, retaliation runs through anyone's head who feels they've been wronged, but it's the way you handle those feelings that make some nations more able to live a life of civilization than others because they know that turning around and bombing back, like you think we should do adam, is not going to solve anything. Fuck, kindergarden students know that.
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Agreed it isn't a "great analogy" but also I wasn't grouping people together bu races either, if you see it as affiliations not white vs. brown it is a decent analogy of the situation.
Knee Jerk reactions are exactly what they crave
Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2005-07-07 13:52:50 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Dead_0hi0_Sky (user info) at 2005-07-07 13:43:13 (#)
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not funny, fucking asshole.
i didnt laugh when it happened to your country, why then are you laughing when it happens to mine?
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Who said anything about laughing?
It seems that your greif has blinded you, either that or just plain out didn't fucking read it.
Submitted by Dead_0hi0_Sky (user info) at 2005-07-07 13:43:13 EDT (#)
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not funny, fucking asshole.
i didnt laugh when it happened to your country, why then are you laughing when it happens to mine?
Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2005-07-07 13:39:57 EDT (#)
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Stabkill the IRA are Christian.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-07-07 13:37:24 EDT (#)
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Muslims are dirtbags... I hope there is a retaliation in the form of kicking their asses out of the country (revoking a bunch of visas) and general distrust and hatred of them in the population. When you see one of these scumbags with hate written all over their faces and you do not offer the same back, you are simply a fool.
I laugh when people say "radical islam" and put them in the same boat as christians... You know what? I dislike them both myself but there is only one of the groups out there planting bombs.
The way muslims treat women rocks too... Gotta love those backwards mussies and the wackjobs that defend these guys.
Thorpe and Wiggles are dancing in the streets of their prospective socialist heavens right now.
Submitted by HadToBeDone (user info) at 2005-07-07 13:30:41 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-07-07 13:05:58 (#)
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Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2005-07-07 12:56:09 (#)
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"Holding them back"? If it wasn't for the US funding their military, they'd still be tossing spears at eachother.
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The nation of Israel was formed without help from the US. They kicked ass out there on their own for a while. They do get a lot of military aid from the US now, but they still put the smack down on every country around them simultaneously. No easy feat.
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The nation of Israel would not exist except for the support of America and Europe. They would have been EASILY re-assimilated by their Arab neighbors. They have their own military technology now, but only because others propped them up to give them time to develop it.
Submitted by swamp_donkey (user info) at 2005-07-07 13:29:07 EDT (#)
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Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:03:38 (#)
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This is quite an insensitive post to post today Adam, particularly as most British people don't mind being laughed at- we know we are mainly crap.
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Thanks for clearing that up.
PS - You've got fat juicy tits.
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Swamp Donkey, that was coarse, ill-timed and really not appropriate.
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Hmmmm, that's strange. I found it smooth, right on time and strikingly delicious.
Submitted by The_Yellow_Dart (user info) at 2005-07-07 13:18:12 EDT (#)
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What time is this
To trade the handshake for the fist?
And so once again
Oh, America my friend
And so once again
You are fighting us all
And when we ask you why
You raise your sticks and cry and we fall
Oh, my friend
How did you come
To trade the fiddle for the drum
You say we have turned
Like the enemies you've earned
But we can remember
All the good things you are
And so we ask you please
Can we help you find the peace and the star
Oh my friend
We have all come
To fear the beating of your drum
Submitted by ILL34GL3 (user info) at 2005-07-07 13:17:42 EDT (#)
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That's a mighty inflammatory political cartoon you've found there scooter.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-07-07 13:05:58 EDT (#)
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Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2005-07-07 12:56:09 (#)
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"Holding them back"? If it wasn't for the US funding their military, they'd still be tossing spears at eachother.
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The nation of Israel was formed without help from the US. They kicked ass out there on their own for a while. They do get a lot of military aid from the US now, but they still put the smack down on every country around them simultaneously. No easy feat.
Submitted by yabbo (user info) at 2005-07-07 13:03:32 EDT (#)
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I disagree. I would suspect the US holds Isreal back. If Isreal was really allowed to open a can of whoop ass on the middle east I predict we could say goodbye to all of those oil fields
"Holding them back"? If it wasn't for the US funding their military, they'd still be tossing spears at eachother.
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Even if the US didn;t give them money I would gamble that Isreal would still be in good shape. Throughout history the Isrealis/Jews seems to be able to excel.
And I stand by the holding back. Isreal military technology , which they do develop, is second to noone and they have the guts to use it.
Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2005-07-07 13:03:12 EDT (#)
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The other way the USA and the UK can get terrorists to stop hating us is to revise our foreign policies. If you attack them they'll just ahte us and want to kill us more- if someone is a suicide bomber (they think they were today) it is very hard to legislate against them- if they are prepared to die for their cause then the death penalty is no deterrant. The whole scary reality of this kind of terrorism is that it's really small groups working alon, not an identifiable country whose "ass" you can "whop".
Should we nuke Ireland to get rid of the IRA too?
Submitted by The_Yellow_Dart (user info) at 2005-07-07 12:57:45 EDT (#)
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Lets use an anaolgy (and sorry bout the yesterday typo, don't know where my brain is)
If you're in a busy market and a guy gets up from a large group at a cafe and trips someone then goes back and high fives his friends do you do nothing about it because your scared of the retribuiton of his freinds?
So another comes out and gut punches a kid.
Now do you do something?
No?
Now they see they are intimidating everyone.
Sure you and your friends can't take them on, but if all the folks in the market chrarged over there and whooped some ass, do you think they'd be back tomorrow to do the same thing. Sure they'd be pissed about getting their asses kicked.
Sure they'd want retribution, but if they knew that them conducting violence would bring about a rousing reaction, don't you think they'd probably think twice?
That's the problem, the western world has become a bunch of folks at the market who just want to buy a few things and go home in hopes they aren't next. They want to smile meekly and move along hoping they'll get tired and go home.
They won't
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Horrible analogy by the way. That has nothing to do with terrorism. I don't think you even grasp the concept of terrorism yet even though cindy explained it to you.
Saying that all arabs agree with, and are for, terrorism is like saying all white people supported the klu klux klan. Only a select few actually do, and they're hard to differentiate from the majority. In Iraq, if someone there hates America, it's more likely to be because they feel they're being punished by the Americans for something someone did in their society that they're in no way connected to, other than their skin colour, not because they're a terrorist. They probably feel the same way the British are feeling right now (or the Americans felt during 9/11) when an American bomb strays off course and kills their loved ones. Of course, retaliation runs through anyone's head who feels they've been wronged, but it's the way you handle those feelings that make some nations more able to live a life of civilization than others because they know that turning around and bombing back, like you think we should do adam, is not going to solve anything. Fuck, kindergarden students know that.
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2005-07-07 12:56:09 EDT (#)
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Submitted by yabbo (user info) at 2005-07-07 12:46:56 (#)
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Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2005-07-07 12:43:48 (#)
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I agree with the first rant.
However, Israel has the whole US behind them. It's easy to stand up to someone with a 500 ton gorilla backing you.
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I disagree. I would suspect the US holds Isreal back. If Isreal was really allowed to open a can of whoop ass on the middle east I predict we could say goodbye to all of those oil fields
"Holding them back"? If it wasn't for the US funding their military, they'd still be tossing spears at eachother.
Submitted by yabbo (user info) at 2005-07-07 12:46:56 EDT (#)
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Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2005-07-07 12:43:48 (#)
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I agree with the first rant.
However, Israel has the whole US behind them. It's easy to stand up to someone with a 500 ton gorilla backing you.
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I disagree. I would suspect the US holds Isreal back. If Isreal was really allowed to open a can of whoop ass on the middle east I predict we could say goodbye to all of those oil fields
Submitted by Avals (user info) at 2005-07-07 12:43:55 EDT (#)
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Submitted by DeathJester (user info) at 2005-07-07 12:14:36 (#)
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I wear an IDF t-shirt I got from a friend in Isreal.
She owns her own gas mask in case of attack.
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Actually, the government hands out those gas masks. (Actually kits, since they include a syringe of Lydocaine or somesuch and I think other assorted bric-a-brac.)
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2005-07-07 12:43:48 EDT (#)
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I agree with the first rant.
However, Israel has the whole US behind them. It's easy to stand up to someone with a 500 ton gorilla backing you.
Submitted by jack11058 (user info) at 2005-07-07 12:40:30 EDT (#)
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This is definitely an Islamic extremist attack, AKA terrorism. We should call it what it is. This is ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS utilizing a "combat technique" called terrorism: inciting mass fear in the general population in order to generate awareness of a certain group's agenda in an attempt to meet certain goals. In this case, the ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS want to cause the UK to "pull a Spain" and prove to the world they are cowards.
I'm sure the ISLAMIC EXTREMISTS will be sorely disappointed. If history has shown us anything, it has shown us that Brits are determined and resilient. Anyone remember the Battle of Britain?
The current operational environment of Salafist (Al Qaeda belief system) ISLAMIC EXTREMIST terror organizations, particularly ones affiliated with AQ, presents particular difficulties when it comes to combating them.
In Europe, for example, most AQ "affiliated groups" have no direct connection to AQ itself. Rather, these cells seem to form spontaneously among members of the disenfranchised, poor, and/or criminal Muslim minority elements. Often, these subjects are indoctrinated at local Madrassa's (religious schools) and encouraged to begin a Jihad. The groups will form around a core of one or two key members, and take their beliefs from Salafism, and their inspiration from AQ. So while they consider themselves Al Qaeda, they have no direct connection to AQ.
Therefore, tracking and disassembling these groups is proving problematic. It's not like tracking one group that has cells everywhere. It's like tracking scores of cells at all consider themselves part of one group, but are not interrelated.
Rambling done.
To you in the UK. We will, of course, stand with you as you have stood with us. Best of luck.
Submitted by The_Yellow_Dart (user info) at 2005-07-07 12:38:48 EDT (#)
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Sorry adam, but I didn't like this.
Submitted by DeathJester (user info) at 2005-07-07 12:14:36 EDT (#)
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I wear an IDF t-shirt I got from a friend in Isreal.
She owns her own gas mask in case of attack.
Those people have solid fucking iron balls.
Even the chicks.
Submitted by Sphagnum (user info) at 2005-07-07 12:07:12 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2005-07-07 12:01:30 (#)
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Submitted by Sphagnum (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:59:10 (#)
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Indo- Why? what has Australia got to offer the US or UK that is worth them sending their troops to fight and die?
Loyalty is bullshit.
If they can get Australian exports cheaper through another regime that has taken over, they will be laughing. If they think these things are going to cost a hell of a lot more or won't be available at all anymore, THEN they may help.
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Indonesia is Muslim
US and UK would simply to keep a sphere of influence over there.
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I know they are majority Muslim. There are 300+ million of them and 20 million of us.
Why the fuck did we go and involve ourselves in this middle eastern war?
Our relationship with Indonesia is highly volatile at best and deciding to fight in a war AGAINST Islam is downright ridiculous. They would crush us in a heartbeat if they wanted. Their military personnel outnumber our entire population.
We'd all be fucked before the Americans or the Brits even found out about it.
Submitted by Sphagnum (user info) at 2005-07-07 12:01:31 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Lord_greg (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:55:39 (#)
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I agree with most of the people here i think that even today a country should stand up for itself and unfortunately Britain has become a pussy. first we go with the Americans no Questions asked then we think about pulling out because it suddenly hit on Blair they can hit anyone they wanna! but instead of saying they hit us now lets hit 'em harder ie. NUKE 'EM!!! we go 'oh dear we better pull out so they don't keep hitting us. but take a wild guess they still be kicking us for going with America in the first place especially if they think we're pussy enought to do what they want if they do.
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A nuclear strike is a stupid fucking idea.
If you think for a second that these terrorists don't have nuclear capabilities then you have rocks in your head.
Both teams are just waiting for the other to introduce Nukes, then it will be open slather.
Lets all hope that never happens.
Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2005-07-07 12:01:30 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Sphagnum (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:59:10 (#)
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Indo- Why? what has Australia got to offer the US or UK that is worth them sending their troops to fight and die?
Loyalty is bullshit.
If they can get Australian exports cheaper through another regime that has taken over, they will be laughing. If they think these things are going to cost a hell of a lot more or won't be available at all anymore, THEN they may help.
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Indonesia is Muslim
US and UK would simply to keep a sphere of influence over there.
Submitted by Sphagnum (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:59:10 EDT (#)
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Indo- Why? what has Australia got to offer the US or UK that is worth them sending their troops to fight and die?
Loyalty is bullshit.
If they can get Australian exports cheaper through another regime that has taken over, they will be laughing. If they think these things are going to cost a hell of a lot more or won't be available at all anymore, THEN they may help.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:55:52 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Sphagnum (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:48:19 (#)
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I think we would all be surprised at how quickly the Commonwealth countries became involved if the British declared war.
Why the fuck are there Australian troops in Iraq? We don't belong there. It's none of our business.
This fucking "Alliance" bullshit is unbelievable. Are we really naive enough to think that anyone is going to come to our rescue if Indonesia wants to take over? Un-fucking-likely.
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Indo wouldn't even try because we give them third rate weapon systems and hook the Aussie's up. and if they were even thinking about it, which of your allies would be a bigger detterrent UK or USA.
And yes we would be there in a heartbeat.
Submitted by Lord_greg (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:55:39 EDT (#)
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I agree with most of the people here i think that even today a country should stand up for itself and unfortunately Britain has become a pussy. first we go with the Americans no Questions asked then we think about pulling out because it suddenly hit on Blair they can hit anyone they wanna! but instead of saying they hit us now lets hit 'em harder ie. NUKE 'EM!!! we go 'oh dear we better pull out so they don't keep hitting us. but take a wild guess they still be kicking us for going with America in the first place especially if they think we're pussy enought to do what they want if they do.
Submitted by ess-arr (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:55:11 EDT (#)
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It seems your still on your soap box, you look good up there.
Submitted by Sphagnum (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:48:19 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:44:15 (#)
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Not only that but he would be dragging all of the Commonwealth countries into as well.. because we would have no choice. """
Only the Queen can do that. Even then, I think it only applies to Canada.
We're mostly all independant nations now. We're just called the Commonwealth just like the french have "La Francophonie".
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I think we would all be surprised at how quickly the Commonwealth countries became involved if the British declared war.
Why the fuck are there Australian troops in Iraq? We don't belong there. It's none of our business.
This fucking "Alliance" bullshit is unbelievable. Are we really naive enough to think that anyone is going to come to our rescue if Indonesia wants to take over? Un-fucking-likely.
Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:45:56 EDT (#)
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Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:38:47 (#)
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I don't think that civilised people should 'bomb a few cities for good measure' that's what the terrorists are doing. If you attack sovereign nations you will bond the people of that country together in hatred of you, and they might also make bombs and plant them on busses and trains. (familiar?)
And the people died today not yesterday- it all happened this morning. I still have plenty of friends colleagues and aquaintances who I haven't heard from yet.
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Lets use an anaolgy (and sorry bout the yesterday typo, don't know where my brain is)
If you're in a busy market and a guy gets up from a large group at a cafe and trips someone then goes back and high fives his friends do you do nothing about it because your scared of the retribuiton of his freinds?
So another comes out and gut punches a kid.
Now do you do something?
No?
Now they see they are intimidating everyone.
Sure you and your friends can't take them on, but if all the folks in the market chrarged over there and whooped some ass, do you think they'd be back tomorrow to do the same thing. Sure they'd be pissed about getting their asses kicked.
Sure they'd want retribution, but if they knew that them conducting violence would bring about a rousing reaction, don't you think they'd probably think twice?
That's the problem, the western world has become a bunch of folks at the market who just want to buy a few things and go home in hopes they aren't next. They want to smile meekly and move along hoping they'll get tired and go home.
They won't
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:44:15 EDT (#)
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Not only that but he would be dragging all of the Commonwealth countries into as well.. because we would have no choice. """
Only the Queen can do that. Even then, I think it only applies to Canada.
We're mostly all independant nations now. We're just called the Commonwealth just like the french have "La Francophonie".
Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:40:32 EDT (#)
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We should give the middle east to the Israelis.
Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:38:47 EDT (#)
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I don't think that civilised people should 'bomb a few cities for good measure' that's what the terrorists are doing. If you attack sovereign nations you will bond the people of that country together in hatred of you, and they might also make bombs and plant them on busses and trains. (familiar?)
And the people died today not yesterday- it all happened this morning. I still have plenty of friends colleagues and aquaintances who I haven't heard from yet.
Submitted by Sphagnum (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:36:19 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:05:49 (#)
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I don't know but arabs certainly have more resolve than we do. This is a showdown of will and the west already surrendered.
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That's because they can do what they want and their people just accept it.
The rest of us live in democratic societies where political power is oh so important. The leaders in our democratic societies don't call everyone to arms in situations like this because it would be very unpopular and would ultimately cost them their position of leadership.
The only person to buck the trend was George "W" because he had a plan to rig the election anyway so regardless of his popularity, he would still get to serve another term.(Either that or the public were stupid enough to vote him back into power again.) All the other leaders are shit scared to retaliate because the people would be against it.
If Tony Blair turned around tomorrow and said "Fuck it, that's the last straw. Lets take 90% of our troops into the Middle East and end this fucking bullshit once and for all." do you think the british public would stand for it? No fucking way. That isn't the way things are done in Western society anymore. Not only that but he would be dragging all of the Commonwealth countries into as well.. because we would have no choice.
The countries that these terrorists originate from aren't in the same boat. If people want to start a holy war or just stir the pot and kill a bunch of innocent people (for whatever reason, there are many) then they just go ahead and do it. THEIR government is too scared to intervene lest they and their family be the next target.
That is why they are so hard to stop. There really isn't anyone game enough to do it properly.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:35:53 EDT (#)
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Who cares about small-time terrorists!? ATTACK CHINA!!1 Alleeeeeeeeez!
Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:31:58 EDT (#)
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Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:17:25 (#)
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The whole point of Terrorism is that you can't stand up to it- you can't invade the country of Terrorism because any fucker can be a terrorist.
Remember that terrorists are as convinced that they are right as we are repulsed by their actions.
If there is a away to combat Terrorism- I'd love to see it- while there is massive injustice and imbalance in the world you are always going to get people fired up enough to kill for their cause.
You also have the religion issue- a lot of wars (generalisation, yes) occur in the name of "God"- how are you going to stop that?
WHY ALL THE CAPITAL LETTERS?
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You're right by sitting back and saying "Damn those terrorists, who only exist in ideology oh well, lets just be extra nice to everyone and hope we don't get attacked by anyone again. Just to be safe lets make everyday life here an inconveinece too."
The fact is we know terrorist organizations are present in other "soveriegn" countries, but we want to play nice.
It isn't about how amny people died yesterday, it isn't about how many people died in 9/11. The numbers are inconsequential. More people died of natural causes in the UK yesterday than did by any bomb. It's the ideal.
When an attack happens and you back up a millimeter, you can be sure more are to come. Spain proved that thier tactics can be effective, and all I'm saying is that if the UK follows suit you can be sure that it will ensure an escalation in terrorism.
I'm all for making this a true war on terrorism.
Fuck the bullshit.
9/11 was a intro, the fact it continues to happen is bullshit.
Especially in reference to the fact we let foriegn fighters pour over the borders in Iraq. That should be our first priority. If a country isn't willing to stop people from leaving it's borders it should be held responsible.
If Germany had found out that Swiss fighters were pouring out to conduct terrorist attacks in Nazi Germany, do you think they wouldn't have bombed a few cities for good measure. You're goddamn right they would have.
Submitted by mbstateside (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:30:13 EDT (#)
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Fookin brilliant!
You made a few good and legitimate points and were amusing too. Well done sire.
Submitted by ellsmall (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:28:56 EDT (#)
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Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:17:25 (#)
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"Remember that terrorists are as convinced that they are right as we are repulsed by their actions."
The Nazis were "convinced" they were the master race and tho' it took a few years we cleared their heads of that idea. We need a policy of conducting the same sort of clarification for anyone who even thinks about supporting terrorist action.
Submitted by Stin (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:28:12 EDT (#)
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Submitted by swamp_donkey (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:06:15 (#)
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Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:03:38 (#)
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This is quite an insensitive post to post today Adam, particularly as most British people don't mind being laughed at- we know we are mainly crap.
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Thanks for clearing that up.
PS - You've got fat juicy tits.
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Swamp Donkey, that was coarse, ill-timed and really not appropriate.
To an extent, the UK is now suffering because of our involvement with US policy, but Tony Blair is a big boy. He went merrily off to war despite the feelings of his electorate, and it is he who now holds the responsibility for what we as a country do next.
Submitted by Teephphah (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:27:38 EDT (#)
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C1ndy -
No, you can't invade the country of Terrorism, but you CAN change the face of the society that fosters it. Massive injustice and imbalance in the world are exactly what the US AND the UK (among others) are trying to combat in Iraq right now. By setting up a free and democratic society, where ALL of the people are able to a) express their own opinions; and b) keep the money they are able to earn, we hope to change the entire way they view the world. We hope to give them . . . hope for a better future. When you're living in shit, with no hope of things getting better, it doesn't take much to get you to strap a bomb to yourself and blow up a bunch of infidels if you think that it is a sure shot to get you and your family into Nirvana (where things are better than they are here).
However we all got into this mess, for better or worse, THAT is the goal now. It can work, but it will TAKE work. And blood. And sweat. And tears. But, in the past "freedom" (and all the cynics scoff appropriately) has always been worth that much.
Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:22:53 EDT (#)
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Adam, stop reviewing. I disagree with you but the post was funny enough to +2.
Submitted by Falco (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:22:07 EDT (#)
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faggot
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:21:31 EDT (#)
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I say give 'em a body bag.
Submitted by Mike00295 (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:21:27 EDT (#)
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Well put. Even though this attack does not even come CLOSE to the severity of 9/11, it is still tragic. I hope there is no one associated with this sight that was or had any family members hurt or injured. Cowards deserve the worst payback.
Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:17:25 EDT (#)
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The whole point of Terrorism is that you can't stand up to it- you can't invade the country of Terrorism because any fucker can be a terrorist.
Remember that terrorists are as convinced that they are right as we are repulsed by their actions.
If there is a away to combat Terrorism- I'd love to see it- while there is massive injustice and imbalance in the world you are always going to get people fired up enough to kill for their cause.
You also have the religion issue- a lot of wars (generalisation, yes) occur in the name of "God"- how are you going to stop that?
WHY ALL THE CAPITAL LETTERS?
Submitted by Avals (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:15:02 EDT (#)
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This was just, like, SUPER MEGA insensitive.
Then again, it WAS funny, and you DID call us bad-ass.
Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:10:30 EDT (#)
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Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:03:38 (#)
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This is quite an insensitive post to post today Adam, particularly as most British people don't mind being laughed at- we know we are mainly crap.
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It was in direct response to a comment by missflibble who pretty much equated the UK being attacked because of the US's policies and thier following them.
It's bullshit. STAND THE FUCK UP.
Shifting blame will never accomplish ANYTHING.
ACTION always will.
Like Teephah said TOTAL VICTORY will always put a period on the sentence that ends a chapter in history. After Japan and Germany's defeat there might have been some rumblings, but thats pretty much the extent.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:09:04 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:05:49 (#)
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I don't know but arabs certainly have more resolve than we do. This is a showdown of will and the west already surrendered.
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Some in the West have. Some it remains to be seen.
Submitted by MyNameIsTim (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:07:50 EDT (#)
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well said.
Submitted by Fabit (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:06:37 EDT (#)
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Knowing us mate, we won't pull out, we'll dive back in, i reckon there a british soldiers who are packing their bags ready to dly out for some ass whooping.
Blair is too strong to just slump into the background.
We're too cool.
I can't believe we totally used to own a quarter of the globe. we rock.
Submitted by DonkeyOnTheEdge (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:06:35 EDT (#)
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WWIII up in this bitch. I'll bring the nukes. <grabs nuts, gives finger to Canada>
Submitted by swamp_donkey (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:06:15 EDT (#)
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Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:03:38 (#)
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This is quite an insensitive post to post today Adam, particularly as most British people don't mind being laughed at- we know we are mainly crap.
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Thanks for clearing that up.
PS - You've got fat juicy tits.
Submitted by Xcuses (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:05:50 EDT (#)
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Go Isreal
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:05:49 EDT (#)
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I don't know but arabs certainly have more resolve than we do. This is a showdown of will and the west already surrendered.
Submitted by doctorj24 (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:04:29 EDT (#)
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I like.
I especially like the picture.
Submitted by jack11058 (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:04:17 EDT (#)
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BIG FUCKING BALLS
Pound for pound, the Mossad is the best intelligence agency in the world. And it's 60% female.
Pound for pound, the toughest fighters and most experience soldiers, although we are catching up on them in the experience department.
Something about a country that will steal a terrorists' cell phone, plant a tiny bomb in it, and get it back undetected into his secure compound on to his desk where he left in three hours before, then, when he gets back to his office, CALLS the cellphone, he answers, they say: goodbye, asshole; and blow his head off.
that's badass.
Submitted by egadz (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:04:10 EDT (#)
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"WE defeated terror."
--The entire united states of shit.
Yeah right.
They won, because now we have to have uber-security.
You rock for posting about it.
Submitted by Teephphah (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:03:55 EDT (#)
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"I know, I know, war only causes more problems in the long run."
Yeah, that's what we've learned from both Germany and Japan. It might be true if you say "not finishing a war" only causes more problems, but my my reckoning, total victory, complete defeat of an enemy, showing them that they WILL NOT win, has done pretty well for us.
Submitted by ess-arr (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:03:45 EDT (#)
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I took a plane from MTL to London, Christmas 2001 right after september 11th. The security was insane, we had to be there 4 hours before, shoes, everything electronic and what not checked, I was quite hammered so all was good, plus I got bumped up to first class and had lobster for dinner but that's be side the point. My mother just got back from England and she said it took maybe 20 minutes to get through security , yeah its not christmas time but four tyears later and its like we're back to the way it was, maybe thats just canada.
Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:03:38 EDT (#)
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This is quite an insensitive post to post today Adam, particularly as most British people don't mind being laughed at- we know we are mainly crap.
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:03:01 EDT (#)
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Thanks Adam it's a little chilly in here today, the heat will be welcome.
oh and an announcement to Uber *ALL CLAIMS TO BADASSISM MUST BE CLEARED BY ME* That said you're right Isreal is badass.
*****BADASS SEAL OF APPROVAL*****
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:02:59 EDT (#)
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I think it is a little early for a post like this, and it is probably going to piss some people off because of that.
It is probably going to piss some people off because of what it said.
But despite that, I liked it.
Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:02:26 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Awko (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:01:12 EDT (#)
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"I swear if anyone threatened me with a plastic knife, I'd spork the shit out of them right on the spot. It's like paper-rock-scissors only I have fork and knife at the same time, so I'd HAVE to win."
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This line got you a +2.
Submitted by swamp_donkey (user info) at 2005-07-07 11:01:10 EDT (#)
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My favorite quote from an Israeli: "We will retaliate one-thousand fold."
That's the way it should be. Fuck peace talks, fuck turning the other cheek.
Peace through superior firepower. Test it, reap it.
CHECK YOURSELF BEFORE YOU WRECK YOURSELF, BEYATCH!!