"Hey NAFTA, FUCK YOU" U.S. ambassador to Canada, David Wilkins (1351 hits)
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Submitted by BobLobla (View user info) at 2005-08-18 13:41:48 EDT
*Disclaimer*
This is in NO WAY an anti-US rant, I like my neighbours to the south, my g/f is American and you guys, in general, rock out with your cocks out.
*/Disclaimer*
I would just like to start off by saying a big FUCK YOU to the U.S. ambassador to Canada David Wilkins. Fuck you and your shitty foreign policy.
There, now I have said it and I feel a little better, this is the reason for the big FUCK YOU:
http://cfcn.ctv.ca/servlet/ArticleNews/scfcn/CTVNews/20050818/canadaAM_wilkins_20050818/Canada/story
"Reschedule softwood talks, U.S. envoy urges"
I will paraphrase:
U.S: Canadians are making too much money importing their lumber to our country; let's tax the fuck out of them
Canada: But...
U.S.: But nothing, we can do whatever the fuck we want.
Canada: What about NAFTA?
U.S.: FUCK NAFTA
NAFTA: Ummmm, hey guys, Canada kinda has a point.
U.S.: I'm sorry, you must not have been listening, FUCK NAFTA.
**Fast Forward 3 years and 5 billion dollars in unnecessary tariffs later**
NAFTA: Ummm, Yeah, I'm gonna have to go ahead and ask you to stop taxing Canada
U.S.: **Puffs out chest and winds up to punch NAFTA in the balls**
NAFTA: **cringes**
U.S.: HA, 2 for flinching **smokes NAFTA in the arm**
NAFTA: Fuck man, that hurt, seriously, you need to stop this shit, remember that you signed me.
U.S.: Yeah, about that, I really want to and to be honest you can't make me.
Canada: Hey man, what the fuck, that's not fair.
U.S.: Fuck you, want some of this too?
Canada: **Storms away from table**
U.S.: Awwwwwww, come on, quit being a baby.
Canada: **under breath** I hope you enjoy expensive oil...
There have been a series of rulings in favour of the Canadian stance on this situation and I think that it is fucking bull shit that the U.S. won't comply with the rulings NAFTA.
I mean, the U.S. signed the fucking agreement, when it works in another countries favour you can't just go and ignore it.
I just don't get it.
GO FLAMES
And now, a picture of some nice bud...
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Submitted by marginwalker (user info) at 2006-07-26 11:42:01 EDT (#)
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Yeah - Nafta fucked us pretty bad man. The scariest part is, companies operating under NAFTA laws have no responsibilites to the public. In short - say for example an American fertilizer company sets up shop in Alberta somewhere, and is operating near a main water source for a community. It's discovered a couple years later a chemical in the fertilizer is polluting the drinking water, posing potentially serious threats to public health. Here's what happens:
1. Canadian Government says "Stop - this is not in the best interest of Canadians, and is potentially dangerous to their health"
2. US Company says "Fuck you - Under Nafta, if you try and shut us down you're infringing on our productive capacity. You can't make us"
3. Canadian government has to either:
a) Pay them out to protect the ensure the health of the citizens isn't at risk;
~OR~
b) Decide the amount the US Company wants is too much without conclusive, scientitific evidence people are getting sick (which usually isn't really even needed in a case like this where people start getting sick AFTER the company shows up. It buys time though), and lets em' go on polluting.
Either way - the public does not have access to the information. The Companies involved can share information on their own free will, but have no obligations. And you can bet your ass this isn't the kind of information companies release to members of the surrounding community.
Kinda makes you wonder what's safe to put in your body.....and what ever happened to governing in the best interest of the majority....
Check out this link - it's chalk full of cases heard/to be heard under the NAFTA Tribunal.
http://www.citizen.org/documents/Chapter%2011%20Report%20Final.pdf
It talks about everything from water to soft lumber issues.
Submitted by rob_berg (user info) at 2006-07-25 21:11:19 EDT (#)
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FUCK!
See? This is fucking funny- and far more interesting than just randomly shitting on posts.
Why be such a negative cunt? You are obviously someone who can contribute a lot more to the conversation.
Even if you DON'T like the way I say things- I am fully willing to listen to why you think that way. I may not agree- in fact I probably won't, but I think we have far more things in common than not.
But if you want to continue being an asshole, that's fine. I just think its a shame.
r.
Submitted by Ditka (user info) at 2006-01-09 09:45:18 EST (#)
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Can't not +2 that picture.
Submitted by HighVoltage900 (user info) at 2006-01-09 09:39:39 EST (#)
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That was funny. I like the US's portrayal as that guy I knew in high school.
I hated that fucker.
Submitted by ess-arr (user info) at 2006-01-09 09:28:41 EST (#)
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snowball the dolphin
Submitted by podium (user info) at 2005-09-14 20:55:31 EDT (#)
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PS I may be from Eastern Canada but I've always been a HUGE Oilers fan and Edmonton's gonna kick yer ass
Submitted by podium (user info) at 2005-09-14 20:54:23 EDT (#)
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I liked the rant.
PS. How's the weather in Calgary?
Podium
(Hull)
Submitted by d_prime (user info) at 2005-08-18 21:44:32 EDT (#)
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Submitted by dodahdave (user info) at 2005-08-18 15:11:19 (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-08-18 14:49:57 (#)
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The US is by far the biggest of the two partners, so just like in bed, they will be the one doing the ass-fucking. We can cry, we can moan but nothing's gonna change it, it's life.
WE need to stop being prostitutes. WE need to diversy our economy and find new partners instead of being a huge wasteland with lots of ressources to drain. WE need to stop with this socialist utopia ("free" healthcare my ass). And as much as I hate to admit it, us frogs need to stop dragging this country down with political unrest. Among other things. Anyway, my point is, no complaining will change the fact that America has way more leverage so maybe it's time we ameliorate our situation and stop acting like breast-fed whiners.
"I'm sorry we burnt down your White House during the War of 1812. I see you've rebuilt it! It's very nice."
This is fucking dumb. The White House was burned by the British. Also, none of us was there so why take credit for it? It's as stupid as when 16 years old clueless americans say "We saved Europe's ass" when they haven't fought there or pay tax to contribute to the Marshall Plan.
Bragging about beer or beating someone at hockey (like they give a fuck) is even more retarded.
On behalf of all Canadians, except you, please don't embarass us with this apology/lame joke.
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The truth shall set us all free.
Submitted by CoreaPeekay (user info) at 2005-08-18 21:25:35 EDT (#)
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Bragging about beer or beating someone at hockey (like they give a fuck) is even more retarded.
On behalf of all Canadians, except you, please don't embarass us with this apology/lame joke.
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We have some pretty awesome beer brewed in the northwest USA, Its suprisingly good compaired to the rest of the american pisswater. That statement is coming from a lifelong northwesterner. For some reason I feel a strong brotherhood yet a strong disdain as well towards my canadian neighbors.
Submitted by Fungah (user info) at 2005-08-18 20:47:03 EDT (#)
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YES!
Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-08-18 19:45:38 EDT (#)
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Sounds about right.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-08-18 17:55:56 EDT (#)
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I should mention, if Canada does subsidize their logging industry...then the tax is justified. If they do not, then the Americans are wrong...
We, however, do the same thing. There are some real BS laws out there that are under scrutiny and people know they are wrong and yet congress refuses to act to prolong the inevitable.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-08-18 17:47:55 EDT (#)
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A big +2...Free trade isn't always fair trade and this guy is a dick.
There are always people (both democrat and republican) who think it is wise to "protect" our industries by giving them subsidies and taxing the shit out of other countries...of course, this protects a FEW people and harms the majority of Americans. Unfortunately, those few people have all the money and power (lobbyists) who cry to their appropriate congressman that is in their pocket.
Pathetic... I support free trade 100%, so the subsidies and taxing bullshit have got to go. Either our industry must do stuff to boost itself up, or go ahead and close shop. It is capitalism at its best... (Fuck corporate bailouts too)
Submitted by mles76 (user info) at 2005-08-18 17:31:46 EDT (#)
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I hear ya. It's such a kick in the nuts, fustrating.
Submitted by sideshow (user info) at 2005-08-18 16:25:50 EDT (#)
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That bud looks like 3 buds all side-by-side. Either way, still nice. Now if the US doesn't stop over taxing our lumber, we should start raising the prices on the great British Columbia weed that we sell them. BC bud is, by far, the best there is, and if we just raise the prices, or choose to not sell any to the states, I bet that would fuck shit up. After all, marijuana is the biggest export in BC, followed by the logging industry.
Submitted by dodahdave (user info) at 2005-08-18 15:11:19 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-08-18 14:49:57 (#)
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The US is by far the biggest of the two partners, so just like in bed, they will be the one doing the ass-fucking. We can cry, we can moan but nothing's gonna change it, it's life.
WE need to stop being prostitutes. WE need to diversy our economy and find new partners instead of being a huge wasteland with lots of ressources to drain. WE need to stop with this socialist utopia ("free" healthcare my ass). And as much as I hate to admit it, us frogs need to stop dragging this country down with political unrest. Among other things. Anyway, my point is, no complaining will change the fact that America has way more leverage so maybe it's time we ameliorate our situation and stop acting like breast-fed whiners.
"I'm sorry we burnt down your White House during the War of 1812. I see you've rebuilt it! It's very nice."
This is fucking dumb. The White House was burned by the British. Also, none of us was there so why take credit for it? It's as stupid as when 16 years old clueless americans say "We saved Europe's ass" when they haven't fought there or pay tax to contribute to the Marshall Plan.
Bragging about beer or beating someone at hockey (like they give a fuck) is even more retarded.
On behalf of all Canadians, except you, please don't embarass us with this apology/lame joke.
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The truth shall set us all free.
Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2005-08-18 15:10:54 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by d_prime (user info) at 2005-08-18 15:06:51 EDT (#)
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+2 for Free Trade
Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2005-08-18 15:04:02 EDT (#)
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Spuds002, thats fair, I generally like the 22 minutes stuff but the Apologizing to America segment always pissed me off...
Submitted by Spuds002 (user info) at 2005-08-18 14:58:36 EDT (#)
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hey i diden't write it. but i thought it was pretty funny. also i was just gonna use the part about the trees, because thats what this post is all about, but i figured if im gonna steal it i might as well take it all.
Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2005-08-18 14:54:02 EDT (#)
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And dont ever apologize for Shania, EVER.
That would be like the US apologizing for Faith Hill, why would they do that, she is smoking fucking hot and makes decent music, not my style but it is popular...
sorry for Shania, fuck.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-08-18 14:49:57 EDT (#)
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The US is by far the biggest of the two partners, so just like in bed, they will be the one doing the ass-fucking. We can cry, we can moan but nothing's gonna change it, it's life.
WE need to stop being prostitutes. WE need to diversy our economy and find new partners instead of being a huge wasteland with lots of ressources to drain. WE need to stop with this socialist utopia ("free" healthcare my ass). And as much as I hate to admit it, us frogs need to stop dragging this country down with political unrest. Among other things. Anyway, my point is, no complaining will change the fact that America has way more leverage so maybe it's time we ameliorate our situation and stop acting like breast-fed whiners.
"I'm sorry we burnt down your White House during the War of 1812. I see you've rebuilt it! It's very nice."
This is fucking dumb. The White House was burned by the British. Also, none of us was there so why take credit for it? It's as stupid as when 16 years old clueless americans say "We saved Europe's ass" when they haven't fought there or pay tax to contribute to the Marshall Plan.
Bragging about beer or beating someone at hockey (like they give a fuck) is even more retarded.
On behalf of all Canadians, except you, please don't embarass us with this apology/lame joke.
Submitted by Spuds002 (user info) at 2005-08-18 14:28:18 EDT (#)
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An Apology to Americans
From This Hour has 22 Minutes
By Reporter 'Anthony St. George' (Performed by Colin Mochrie)
Hello. I'm Anthony St. George on location here in Washington.
On behalf of Canadians everywhere I'd like to offer an apology to the United States of America. We haven't been getting along very well recently and for that, I am truly sorry. I'm sorry we called George Bush a moron. He is a moron, but it wasn't nice of us to point it out. If it's any consolation, the fact that he's a moron shouldn't reflect poorly on the people of America. After all, it's not like you actually elected him.
I'm sorry about our softwood lumber. Just because we have more trees than you, doesn't give us the right to sell you lumber that's cheaper and better than your own. It would be like if, well, say you had ten times the television audeince we did and you flood our market with great shows, cheaper than we could produce. I know you'd never do that.
I'm sorry we beat you in Olympic hockey. In our defence I guess our excuse would be that our team was much, much, much, much better than yours. As word of apology, please accept all of our NHL teams which, one by one, are going out of business and moving to your fine country.
I'm sorry about our waffling on Iraq. I mean, when you're going up against a crazed dictator, you want to have your friends by your side. I realize it took more than two years before you guys pitched in against Hitler, but that was different. Everyone knew he had weapons.
I'm sorry we burnt down your White House during the War of 1812. I see you've rebuilt it! It's very nice.
I'm sorry for Alan Thicke, Shania Twain, Celine Dion, Loverboy, that song from Seriff that ends with a really high-pitched long note. Your beer. I know we had nothing to do with your beer, but we feel your pain.
And finally on behalf of all Canadians, I'm sorry that we're constantly apologizing for things in a passive-aggressive way which is really a thinly veiled criticism. I sincerely hope that you're not upset over this. Because we've seen what you do to countries you get upset with.
For 22 minutes, I'm Anthony St. George, and I'm sorry.
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yes i stole it, but i think it fits here.
Submitted by cheruboo (user info) at 2005-08-18 14:08:37 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-08-18 14:05:59 EDT (#)
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Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2005-08-18 13:58:10 (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-08-18 13:54:09 (#)
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It is a little more complex then that, but I liked your analogy. Canadian wood is subsidised, this puts it out of the scope of NAFTA.
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"In the U.S., producers have long complained that government policy effectively subsidizes the cost of Canadian wood.
Ottawa has steadfastly disagreed, and in the face of a series of favourable trade panel rulings -- all of which have gone unheeded by the U.S. -- it has threatened to escalate reaction."
That is the line that the US is using but both Canada AND the NAFTA panel (whoever that is) disagree.
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Do you know who the NAFTA Panel is? Before you can go into the validity of the claims then you have to know who is making them (I don't know either).
And those rulings were on the 2002 NAFTA agreement not the current 2004 agreement. I am pretty much talking out of my ass here, and I assume you are too. Who knew NFTA had changing rules?
Anyway my point is on trade negotiations like these it is rarely (if ever) really about one product. I am sure cnaada is over taxing something of ours, and the article really didn't give enough background into everything that is going on with this.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-08-18 14:02:02 EDT (#)
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True but the US tax prevents us a little from raping our forest. Right now, they are cutting tiny tundra trees 300 fucking kilometers north of my hometown because there aren't any left. Also, the WTO did recognize that Canada had to go easy on its huge federal subsidies to forest corporations. Like americans once said, we're flooding their markets with "soviet-like" policies.
I'm not saying the US tax is fair. I'm not all happy about it. It litteraly choked my home region before they lowered it a bit. But we do have to review the way we work. If the US tax won't slow us down, a recent report (Rapport Coulombe) will - in Québec anyway.
The Scandinavians are known to be 20 years ahead of us. They preserve their forest and yet, they exploit more out of them. We should take advantage of this slump to adjust, I think.
Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2005-08-18 13:58:10 EDT (#)
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Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-08-18 13:54:09 (#)
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It is a little more complex then that, but I liked your analogy. Canadian wood is subsidised, this puts it out of the scope of NAFTA.
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"In the U.S., producers have long complained that government policy effectively subsidizes the cost of Canadian wood.
Ottawa has steadfastly disagreed, and in the face of a series of favourable trade panel rulings -- all of which have gone unheeded by the U.S. -- it has threatened to escalate reaction."
That is the line that the US is using but both Canada AND the NAFTA panel (whoever that is) disagree.
Submitted by WhatTheHell (user info) at 2005-08-18 13:58:05 EDT (#)
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I like hotdogs
Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2005-08-18 13:55:03 EDT (#)
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mbstateside - The British Steel thing is completely different and I have no problems with countries taxing the fuck out of overseas imports. It just pisses me off when it is our economy is getting fucked in the ass. The lumber isnt even as bad as the fucking cattle.
I know alot of people who are out alot of money because of this whole BSE thing and it doesn't only fuck up our shit. There were alot of American packing plants that almost shut down because the had no cattle to process.
R-CALF and similar lobby groups just fuck shit up.
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-08-18 13:54:09 EDT (#)
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It is a little more complex then that, but I liked your analogy. Canadian wood is subsidised, this puts it out of the scope of NAFTA.
Submitted by m0ke34 (user info) at 2005-08-18 13:51:26 EDT (#)
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that isn't fair. (+1)
you -2ed yourself for a typo(+2)--- I'm all about that kind of self-abusive discipline. I'd let a guy like you fuck my sister.
Submitted by mbstateside (user info) at 2005-08-18 13:49:19 EDT (#)
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This was funny and polictical well done John Stewart would be proud.
I both respect and hate the U.S for this type of shit, they did the same thing to British steel. I have to have some respect for a country that will protect it's own industry by making it difficult for foreign competitors. What I hate is the hypocracy and the doing what the fuck it likes when it likes regardless of what it has agreed to in the past.
Your analogy is quite accurate the country does somtimes act like a playground bully.
*Disclaimer*
Please don't get all pissy Americans I love this country and it's people (on the whole) but no where is perfect
Submitted by Dead_0hi0_Sky (user info) at 2005-08-18 13:48:47 EDT (#)
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that guy has alge growing on his face.
Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2005-08-18 13:47:38 EDT (#)
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Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2005-08-18 13:43:58 (#)
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Yeah, and we should abrogate the agreement.
Think NAFTA would have any chance in hell of passing today? NO.
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Fuck man, I hope you do, you are the ones who need our oil/lumber/water. It benifits both of our countires immensely, unless you don't follow it.
Submitted by badassmofo (user info) at 2005-08-18 13:47:15 EDT (#)
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squick
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ah shit who am I kidding I was done after the second squick
mmmmm bud!
Submitted by GlassBowl (user info) at 2005-08-18 13:46:41 EDT (#)
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+2 nice buds
Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2005-08-18 13:45:39 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2005-08-18 13:44:15 (#)
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If I got a boner looking at that picture do I have a problem?
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Not at all.
Submitted by BobLobla (user info) at 2005-08-18 13:45:10 EDT (#)
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"U.S.: Yeah, about that, I really want to and to be honest you can't make me. "
FUCK, stupid typo, should read "I DONT really want to"
Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2005-08-18 13:44:15 EDT (#)
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If I got a boner looking at that picture do I have a problem?
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2005-08-18 13:43:58 EDT (#)
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Yeah, and we should abrogate the agreement.
Think NAFTA would have any chance in hell of passing today? NO.