My Opinion on Gun Control (704 hits)
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Submitted by Lunch_Pail (View user info) at 2005-08-19 22:33:13 EDT
this is in response to this post: http://www.ubersite.com/m/73496
OK, you forgot one very important statistic- how many people were knifed to death in the UK during this time? I bet it's a much higher ratio than the US has. Why? Because, if someone wants to kill, not having a gun is not going to stop them.
Guns don't kill people, people kill people. Blaming a gun for a murder is as stupid as blaming a pen for someone's shitty writing. Or blaming my keyboard for my shitty typing and my computer for not having easier access to spell check. See what I mean?
Ok world, I don't know if you know this but, 38 of the 50 states have CCW permits. A CCW permit allows the average Joe to walk around with a hand gun. That's right- a loaded hand gun on his hip. The thing is this- outlawing guns is not going to stop a criminal from getting one. Do you think an outlaw gives a fuck if a gun is illegal?? HES A FUCKING OUTLAW AND DOES NOT CARE ABOUT LAWS!!! DUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHH!! This may have worked in the UK because there are far less guns there. In the US there is an insane amount of guns especially illegal guns. One of my best friends is a convicted felon and is not allowed to own guns. Does he own guns?? YES. If guns were illegal would he get rid of them?? No fucking way!
Outlawing guns only hurts the people who obey the laws, the people that aren't the problem in the first place. Now, our justice system is a joke. Everybody knows that. We fill our jails with people that smoke dope and commit other victimless crimes. This leads to overcrowded prisons that always let people out early. SO, if a criminal breaks into my house and I'm fortunate enough for the cops to get here before he harms me or my family then he spends a couple months in jail for the umpteenth time in his life. Now, in all actuality if someone breaks into my house he's getting filled with 40 caliber hydrashoks before he has the chance to harm me or my family. What's he going to remember more, his umpteenth time in jail for a couple of months or getting filled with hot lead? What's going to deter him more from committing this crime again? EXACTLY!! It generally takes the police 5 minutes or more to arrive at a call- more than enough time for me or my family to be murdered. It takes me 2.5 seconds to pull my pistol and end the crime right then and there.
Since states have enacted CCW permits crime has GONE DOWN. That's right, GONE DOWN!! Why you ask?? How is that possible, you wonder. It's because the criminal has to consider that someone may be packing before they rob the diner. They now think twice. "Holy shit, if I rob this place someone who is LEGALLY carrying a gun may just fuck me up." Again, its deterrence. Spend a couple months in jail or get lit the fuck up by a gun. Which one would you chose?
Obviously, I own guns. I will never give up my guns. If the government wants my guns they will have to pry them from my cold dead hands.
Heres a picture of my favorite gun for all of you! 40 caliber Springfield XD
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Submitted by RandytheHelpfulPineapple (user info) at 2005-08-20 17:35:40 EDT (#)
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"well, like any debate about politics, if there was an easy way to sway another to your line of thinking we wouldn't be a country seperated a million times by ideals. I appreciate your views and opinions, regardless of how the contradict my own.
I think we can agree on one thing: Take all the money and manhours put into the war on drugs and, instead, put them towards cracking down on home-grown, violent crimes...much better results."
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Word.
Submitted by Maddog (user info) at 2005-08-20 17:23:43 EDT (#)
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You are a fucking idiot. A mis-informed idiot at that. I am amazed that you could copy all that text from the NRA manifesto, as I imagine that reading is quite the task. Go shoot yourself and save that extra oxygen for the rest of us.
Submitted by Unabonger (user info) at 2005-08-20 17:17:26 EDT (#)
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well, like any debate about politics, if there was an easy way to sway another to your line of thinking we wouldn't be a country seperated a million times by ideals. I appreciate your views and opinions, regardless of how the contradict my own.
I think we can agree on one thing: Take all the money and manhours put into the war on drugs and, instead, put them towards cracking down on home-grown, violent crimes...much better results.
Submitted by RandytheHelpfulPineapple (user info) at 2005-08-20 17:07:15 EDT (#)
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are you crazy? a gun is a gun. there is no deterent there. if you're a crackhead you don't care if such and such might have a gun. you just care if you can get more money for more crack.
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Crackheads are smart enough to run when they hear a shotgun being pumped. That is a deterrent.
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"1 in 134 housholds is burglarized each year (on average). since you ignored the last reviewer's question: "how many of you have ever had to weild a gun on an intruder" i'm sure you know that statistic. Nobody is going to break into your house. you don't need a fucking sword of damocles. when you factor in that most crime is an urban problem, you can assume if you're living in the 'burbs, that you have a better chance at randomly getting assaulted with a rubber chicken than running into a burgler."
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1 in 134 is good enough for me. I myself have been lucky enough to not be put in that situation. Do you know the reason why people don't rob when people are at home? Because they could have a gun in the house.
With most crime being urban, as you stated, I don't feel I need a gun --so I don't own one. I'm not saying that EVERYONE should have a gun, or carry one with them at all times; I'm saying that they should have the right to protect themselves and their loved ones, in a responsible manner, with a firearm.
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"if you're nervous get a security system. loud sirens are more frightening than the possiblity that you might have a gun on your premises."
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I agree that a security system is probably the best solution to deter home invasion, but not all crime happens in your home. Not everyone in the ghetto can afford a security system either.
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"another point on the determined criminals having weapons still:
if the only weapons available were ones that had to be illegally brought into the States, the price for those guns would increase exponentially due to the risk involved in attaining one. Marijuana is less expensive than other drugs because more pot is grown in america than, say, cocain. Also, we get alot of pot from areas of Canada and Mexico, two nations that I doubt would have a strong footing in exporting illegal weapons in the States."
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I'm pretty anti-"war on drugs" for the same reason I'm against banning weapons from this country. I agree with everything you've said here, but the implications of gun running need to be explained.
The thing with fighting any illegal item is that it makes the price soar. The soaring prices make it a better market to get into. If I'm Juan Doe and I can get a crate of weapons thirty miles from the border for thirty thousand dollars, and can unload them in the newly inflated black market in California for one hundred thousand dollars, wouldn't it be worth the run compared to selling a crate for thirty-two thousand in a country where they are legal?
This is the biggest problem I have with the War on Drugs right now. We are spending billions to line the pockets of gangsters with high profit margins. High profits leads to territory fights, and crime. It's just a whole lot of nastiness that I don't think I want to add guns to.
As for assistance from our fellow countries; Canada would probably crack down with us, but Mexico's government is a joke.
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"Certainly it's easier to illegally import drugs than arms. I'm not saying it's impossible, because it's not, but I'd imagine that most of the illegal guns on the streets came from previous owners who legally bought them or illegaly stole them from those people. Sure, guns would still come into America but the numbers would definately decrease if we stopped producing them in the States."
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Agreed.
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"The fact that everyone in the ghetto has a gun doesn't mean people are afraid to use them in the ghetto. Quite the contrary, we see more deaths in poverty-stricken areas of society than in suburban ones...could it be because everyone there has a gun?"
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Sure, these guns are the instrument that the killers are using, but the problem is that the people behind them are killers.
I'm for severe punishment for gun crimes (I mean, I have no remorse with locking them up for ten years on their first offense), and liscencing for concealed carry. The problem is not the guns, it's getting them mixed in with idiots.
Do I think that guns can and are used for improper purposes? HELL YES I DO! Am I willing to waive my right to protect myself from danger? No.
I think some action needs to be taken to remove this cancer (gun crimes) off of this nation, but I do not think that banning them is the right move. The right thing to do is to crack down on the idiots using them, and those that are getting them to the idiots.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2005-08-20 14:36:18 EDT (#)
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I agree with most of what you say unabonga, but those amazingly accurate bows you're talking about?
They already make them, they're called guns.
Submitted by Unabonger (user info) at 2005-08-20 14:18:36 EDT (#)
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"You forget that manufacturers produce guns outside of the United States as well. Importing guns illegally would be just as easy as importing drugs illegally. Would the overall number of guns diminish? Sure. Would determined criminals still have guns? Of course they would. It doesn't matter what type of rule you put into law, because crooks obviously don't care about laws. The only people it hurts are the law abiding citizens."
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another point on the determined criminals having weapons still:
if the only weapons available were ones that had to be illegally brought into the States, the price for those guns would increase exponentially due to the risk involved in attaining one. Marijuana is less expensive than other drugs because more pot is grown in america than, say, cocain. Also, we get alot of pot from areas of Canada and Mexico, two nations that I doubt would have a strong footing in exporting illegal weapons in the States.
Submitted by Unabonger (user info) at 2005-08-20 14:12:23 EDT (#)
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"You forget that manufacturers produce guns outside of the United States as well. Importing guns illegally would be just as easy as importing drugs illegally. Would the overall number of guns diminish? Sure. Would determined criminals still have guns? Of course they would. It doesn't matter what type of rule you put into law, because crooks obviously don't care about laws. The only people it hurts are the law abiding citizens."
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Certainly it's easier to illegally import drugs than arms. I'm not saying it's impossible, because it's not, but I'd imagine that most of the illegal guns on the streets came from previous owners who legally bought them or illegaly stole them from those people. Sure, guns would still come into America but the numbers would definately decrease if we stopped producing them in the States.
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"Pulling a gun on an intruder is a last action someone takes. When you hear someone break into your house you are supposed to gather your family, and hide in a locked room. Your gun is for the absolute last line of protection, should they wish you harm. A responsible person doesn't wish to kill anyone, and uses a gun with absolute prudeness.
A gun is meant to kill, but it does more than that. It is a Sword of Damocles to anyone that wishes you ill. Think about the cold war when both the USA and the USSR had a huge supply of nukes; no one fired on the other for fear of mutual assured destruction. The possibility of death deters pretty much anyone, which makes a gun a deterrent rather than a killing machine in the hands of a law abiding citizen."
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The fact that everyone in the ghetto has a gun doesn't mean people are afraid to use them in the ghetto. Quite the contrary, we see more deaths in poverty-stricken areas of society than in suburban ones...could it be because everyone there has a gun?
And I ask again, how many times has your house been broken into while you were there? I've had my house robbed twice in my life but I was never home when it happened. I'd say three quarters of home robberies happen when the culprit knows the victim and knows when the home owner isn't there.
and I appreciate you coming up with semi-valid points and speaking like an adult on the subject...more than I can say for most people that argue about this shit on uber.
Submitted by pen_name (user info) at 2005-08-20 13:29:18 EDT (#)
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"A gun is meant to kill, but it does more than that. It is a Sword of Damocles to anyone that wishes you ill."
randy...etc
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are you crazy? a gun is a gun. there is no deterent there. if you're a crackhead you don't care if such and such might have a gun. you just care if you can get more money for more crack.
1 in 134 housholds is burglarized each year (on average). since you ignored the last reviewer's question: "how many of you have ever had to weild a gun on an intruder" i'm sure you know that statistic. Nobody is going to break into your house. you don't need a fucking sword of damocles. when you factor in that most crime is an urban problem, you can assume if you're living in the 'burbs, that you have a better chance at randomly getting assaulted with a rubber chicken than running into a burgler.
if you're nervous get a security system. loud sirens are more frightening than the possiblity that you might have a gun on your premises.
Submitted by RandytheHelpfulPineapple (user info) at 2005-08-20 12:09:25 EDT (#)
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"But the police are taking illegal and legal (through means of restraining orders) guns off the streets every year. If the distributors of such weapons and the manufacturers of these weapons stopped making them, that's less being put on the streets, less available for sale on a black market, less legal guns having the serial numbers scratched off, and less guns being put into the hands of people that would mis-use them.
EVENTUALLY (I want you to consider this word...it means a look ahead into the future instead of begging for an immediate solution) the amount of guns on the streets will diminish."
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You forget that manufacturers produce guns outside of the United States as well. Importing guns illegally would be just as easy as importing drugs illegally. Would the overall number of guns diminish? Sure. Would determined criminals still have guns? Of course they would. It doesn't matter what type of rule you put into law, because crooks obviously don't care about laws. The only people it hurts are the law abiding citizens.
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"And I'd be interested to know just how many people on this website that own guns actually have ever had to use it on an intruder. I doubt that number is high. Even if you HAD to pull your gun out on an intruder, have you EVER had to fire one at a person?? Ignore that 'i wanna feel like billy badass with a gun' feeling and think about what your pistol is really for...killing people."
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Pulling a gun on an intruder is a last action someone takes. When you hear someone break into your house you are supposed to gather your family, and hide in a locked room. Your gun is for the absolute last line of protection, should they wish you harm. A responsible person doesn't wish to kill anyone, and uses a gun with absolute prudeness.
A gun is meant to kill, but it does more than that. It is a Sword of Damocles to anyone that wishes you ill. Think about the cold war when both the USA and the USSR had a huge supply of nukes; no one fired on the other for fear of mutual assured destruction. The possibility of death deters pretty much anyone, which makes a gun a deterrent rather than a killing machine in the hands of a law abiding citizen.
Submitted by Unabonger (user info) at 2005-08-20 11:15:53 EDT (#)
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I hate the tired argument of "if you outlaw guns criminals will still get them!! HAR HAR I R TEH SAMRT!!"
this argument is usually orchestrated by someone lacking the intelligence and understanding to comprehend any forth-coming argument. I'll try anyway:
If you outlaw guns, the next day you will find your argument supported. Amazingly, just as many criminals will still have guns. Good for you. I'm glad you are a thinker.
But the police are taking illegal and legal (through means of restraining orders) guns off the streets every year. If the distributors of such weapons and the manufacturers of these weapons stopped making them, that's less being put on the streets, less available for sale on a black market, less legal guns having the serial numbers scratched off, and less guns being put into the hands of people that would mis-use them.
EVENTUALLY (I want you to consider this word...it means a look ahead into the future instead of begging for an immediate solution) the amount of guns on the streets will diminish.
So, maybe the solution proposed isn't a quick one, but hardly any solutions are quick when you talk about a quarter of a billion people in a society, but it certainly is a step in the right direction.
And I'd be interested to know just how many people on this website that own guns actually have ever had to use it on an intruder. I doubt that number is high. Even if you HAD to pull your gun out on an intruder, have you EVER had to fire one at a person?? Ignore that 'i wanna feel like billy badass with a gun' feeling and think about what your pistol is really for...killing people.
"But, unabonger, people will still kill with other weapons!!!"
True, but it sure does take alot of strength and determination to kill someone with a knife. It's not as easy as pulling a trigger. It requires thought, precision, and ability to over-power someone. And someone can outrun someone with a knife. Nobody can outrun a bullet. It gives a chance to the victims to get away. Plus, I think the police should have guns...and I think they'd be in a better position to enforce the law if criminals aren't shooting back.
"But, unabonger, guns don't kill people, people kill people!!"
Guns make it easier. Sure, we can't blame your keyboard for your shitty typing but without that keyboard, you'd stfu. I don't blame gun violence on the guns...or the gun companies. It's the people. But it takes more determination to kill when it's not as simple as the pull of a trigger.
"But, unabonger, what about hunting?? Rifles aren't that bad!"
True. Rifles aren't as bad as, let's say, a semi-automatic assault weapon. But why not try and kill a deer with a bow? They make amazingly accurate, easy to use bows now and it puts more of a sport back into hunting. It's easy to kill a deer with a rifle. This turns it into a skill, something that everyone that bow-hunts could agree with. And, if they wanted to only sell hunting rifles, that'd be a step in the right direction that would surely appease alot of anti-gun lobbyists. Strap on a pair and try to hunt with a real weapon...something that gives the animal even the slightest bit more of a chance and gives you some kind of challenge.
"DONT TAEK MY GUNZ0RZ!OMG!!!11!I NEED TEM 4 TEH INTRUDERS!!!1"
Submitted by Natsukau (user info) at 2005-08-20 10:29:38 EDT (#)
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My opinon on you: You are a fucking retard.
Submitted by pfizzledizzle16 (user info) at 2005-08-20 09:15:47 EDT (#)
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Nice hat Eminem.
Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-08-20 08:56:13 EDT (#)
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Guns don't kill people. The American temprement does.
You guys can't handle guns.
Submitted by fluff (user info) at 2005-08-20 08:33:02 EDT (#)
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Arm everyone! makes the world better. DUHHHH! stupid redneck
Submitted by MrSparkle847 (user info) at 2005-08-20 08:27:23 EDT (#)
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HOw the hell did you befriend a convicted felon?
Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2005-08-20 08:16:14 EDT (#)
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Horrible.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2005-08-20 07:58:49 EDT (#)
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If you think as many people are killed with knives in the Uk as are with guns in the US then you should be shot.
Oe stabbed.
Or both.
-2 for being stupid
+1 for trying
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2005-08-20 06:58:47 EDT (#)
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"OK, you forgot one very important statistic- how many people were knifed to death in the UK during this time? I bet it's a much higher ratio than the US has. Why? Because, if someone wants to kill, not having a gun is not going to stop them."
uh, no.
on both counts.
Submitted by joedaddy (user info) at 2005-08-20 06:37:56 EDT (#)
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dont drnk wile arned ether
Submitted by funk_boy (user info) at 2005-08-20 06:18:06 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by funk_boy (user info) at 2005-08-20 06:17:54 EDT (#)
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OK, you forgot one very important statistic- how many people were knifed to death in the UK during this time? I bet it's a much higher ratio than the US has.
Erm.. er, hmmm. Great statistical argument there!
you bet. that's it. you. bet??
Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2005-08-20 04:05:39 EDT (#)
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you haven't done the research. In the uk we have far fewer crimes involving knives too, plus people tend to recover from knife wounds quicker and more frequently than if they get shot in the head.
Submitted by pen_name (user info) at 2005-08-20 02:37:58 EDT (#)
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thanks joe...i'm totally digging that site.
Canada
Murders: 489 (2000)
(per capita): 0.01 per 1000 people
Murders with firearms: 165 (1999)
(per capita): 0.00 per 1000 people
U.K.
Murders: 850 (2000)
(per capita): 0.01 per 1000 people
Murders with firearms: 62 (1999)
(per capita): 0.00 per 1000 people
U.S.
Murders: 12,658 (1999)
(per capita): 0.04 per 1000 people
Murders with firearms:8,259 (1999)
(per capita): 0.02 per 1000 people
Submitted by pen_name (user info) at 2005-08-20 02:21:56 EDT (#)
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Submitted by joedaddy (user info) at 2005-08-20 01:35:27 (#)
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pen_name, they also have less than 1/5th of our population.
The #'s aren't as skewed as you might tend to believe, or have been taught to believe.
http://www.nationmaster.com/
learn something
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i checked it out. you're right. let's say 1/6th because the numbers are closer to that. ok...850 x 6 = 5100.
so, factoring population in, the u.s. only has twice as much murder as the u.k.
Submitted by maiorano84 (user info) at 2005-08-20 02:13:16 EDT (#)
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http://www.ubersite.com/m/66322
Submitted by JusWes (user info) at 2005-08-20 01:44:37 EDT (#)
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I received my permit in Alabama when i was 18. All it took was me going to the sheriff, telling him i wanted a permit, waited 5 days and then went and picked my permit up. I could not LEGALLY buy a pistol but, i could carry one concealed. Strange eh? I didnt complain, just made it legal for me to carry my pistol, but i also live in the redneck ville USA, lots of crazy fucks around here and also rattlesnakes ect. Overall i wished every single state had a CCW permit program. But, also make it not as easy as i was to get mine.
Submitted by joedaddy (user info) at 2005-08-20 01:35:27 EDT (#)
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pen_name, they also have less than 1/5th of our population.
The #'s aren't as skewed as you might tend to believe, or have been taught to believe.
http://www.nationmaster.com/
learn something
Submitted by WellFedEthiopian (user info) at 2005-08-20 00:50:07 EDT (#)
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Guns don't kill people, it's the bullets you silly.
Submitted by pen_name (user info) at 2005-08-20 00:28:07 EDT (#)
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randy, i never tried to ban guns. just pointing out a stupid assertion LP was making. If we were goign to get into a grand discussion, you couldn't even compare the uk to the u.s. they just don't kill people there. they had 850 in '99.we had 13,000. we have a nation of fucking idiots. just like school, where the assholes had to have extra rules because they were no good. so does america.
besides, if you read the rest of that review you quote, all i do is ask for stricter laws. all good, god fearing, permited people can still keep their guns.
Submitted by pen_name (user info) at 2005-08-20 00:18:31 EDT (#)
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Man, fuck you. i read your post; giving me your shitty quotes again only upsets my eyes.
it seems like you're saying "criminals will do whatever they want, so fuck it." gun possession laws are way too lenient. in mass, where it is considered one of the strictest states, you get a year for illegal transportation. that isn't a good enough deterent. right now, you get less time getting caught with gun in hand, than if you got caught with two pounds of grass. that's just ridiculous.
the answer isn't going back to the old west. sure that puts fear in criminals it also puts fear in normal people. if you don't have a gun, you're always going to be in an inferior position in regards to any argument/discussion. that's bullshit.
Submitted by RandytheHelpfulPineapple (user info) at 2005-08-20 00:17:37 EDT (#)
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people don't kill people as often when they don't have guns, buddy. a chicken shit isn't going to take a chance at knifing the guy who called him an shithead, because he might actually get hurt. but if he had a gun he might think, "gooly, gee, i can kill him from way back here! what a great idea!"
-pen name
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Let's role play here for a second pen name. Let's say that guns are banned here. John and Jane are sleeping in their bed, when the sound of a window breaking awakens them. The footsteps are moving towards the staircase, and his family. John, trying to protect his family from a prowler, reaches for his knife, and runs to head the crook off before he reaches his daughter's room. The crook hears John running towards him and shoots him dead.
The problem is that even though guns are illegal, only the law abiding citizens complied with the law. Criminals that do not fear breaking and entering, also do not fear carrying an illegal firearm.
Before you say that banning firearms will get them off the streets, let me ask you something. When was the last time you saw someone smoking marijuana, or admit smoking marijuana, or smoked it yourself? Despite it being illegal for nearly 70 years, people still get their hands on it. Guns would be no different from any other illegal item that there is a demand for in the US.
The main issue that you addressed was that guns have a conveinience factor to them compared to a knife for hot heads. Idiots will always have access to guns if they want to, the problem with banning firearms is that you take them away from law abiding citizens --making them impotent to attacks from idiots.
Submitted by Wiggles (user info) at 2005-08-20 00:10:20 EDT (#)
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Dude!
Gay!
Submitted by joedaddy (user info) at 2005-08-19 23:51:33 EDT (#)
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Rad, you forgot to say, where you live, you also need an appointment.
Submitted by joedaddy (user info) at 2005-08-19 23:47:13 EDT (#)
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California: CCW's are issued by a sheriff or head of a muni police dept.
What's required?
Completion of a course of training
be of: Good Moral Character
and since that one excludes most people, you then add...
Where Good Cause Exists
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2005-08-19 23:45:41 EDT (#)
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yeah, well stupid people don't care about reasonable arguments because they are fucking idiots.
doesn't mean reason is a bad thing.
Submitted by Lunch_Pail (user info) at 2005-08-19 23:39:59 EDT (#)
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Pen name please remove your head from your ass when reviewing posts in the future:
Ok world, I don't know if you know this but, 38 of the 50 states have CCW permits. A CCW permit allows the average Joe to walk around with a hand gun. That's right- a loaded hand gun on his hip. The thing is this- outlawing guns is not going to stop a criminal from getting one. Do you think an outlaw gives a fuck if a gun is illegal?? HES A FUCKING OUTLAW AND DOES NOT CARE ABOUT LAWS!!! DUUUUUUHHHHHHHHHH!! This may have worked in the UK because there are far less guns there. In the US there is an insane amount of guns especially illegal guns. One of my best friends is a convicted felon and is not allowed to own guns. Does he own guns?? YES. If guns were illegal would he get rid of them?? No fucking way!
CRIMINALS DONT CARE ABOUT LAWS THATS WHY THEYRE CRIMINALS!!!!!!!!!!
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-08-19 23:28:01 EDT (#)
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Getting your CCW in Nevada consists of taking a gun safety course (11 hours) and passing a firing exam.
Submitted by pen_name (user info) at 2005-08-19 23:27:03 EDT (#)
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people don't kill people as often when they don't have guns, buddy. a chicken shit isn't going to take a chance at knifing the guy who called him an shithead, because he might actually get hurt. but if he had a gun he might think, "gooly, gee, i can kill him from way back here! what a great idea!"
if you ignore that simple fact you're fooling yourself. knifings in the u.k? are you serious? how many drive by knifings could there be? How many school knifings, where one bullied kid decides to gut all his classmates with his mommy's butter knife? get real.
and while i'm on a rant...
*how about a psych test for anyone buying a gun, including one testing maturity.
*How about 50 years madatory for being in possession without a permit (with the exception of a gun club, or under the supervision of another owner [i.e. parent teaching kid to hunt)
*how about if you ever get caught fucking around with your gun, where you're shooting into the air, aiming it at people (empty or otherwise), or popping your neighbors peekanese, you not only get your gun taken away, but get sodomized in public by a big chinese guy named, wang.
Submitted by RandytheHelpfulPineapple (user info) at 2005-08-19 23:18:05 EDT (#)
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I'm not the type that sees the need to own a gun, but I completely agree.
I side with most "gun nuts" as they are called by the idiot Chicago State Senators.
I think that most all gun owners are responsible enough to concealed carry their weapons; I'd even vote for it if it ever came up in Illinois (even though it won't ever). I would, however, see the need to get these concealed carry owners some sort of test (consisting of simple rules of shooting safely and accurately and the implications of using a firearm incorrectly, like a driver's exam).
I think the answer to gun crime is teaching owners how to use their firearms properly, while punishing people that use them improperly with greater harshness. I totally disagree with the premise of banning them in any situation.
Submitted by shitfuck (user info) at 2005-08-19 23:03:36 EDT (#)
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I fucked your sister.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-08-19 23:00:16 EDT (#)
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cold dead fingers and all that rot.
Submitted by Spuds002 (user info) at 2005-08-19 22:57:48 EDT (#)
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is that you in the pic. cause if it is you are shooting all wrong. bring the weapon level with your eyes, not your eyes level with the weapon.
but then again if it works for you , who gives a shit.
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2005-08-19 22:47:58 EDT (#)
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better give everyone a tactical nuke, so we can all be super safe!
Submitted by knucklesnelson (user info) at 2005-08-19 22:44:34 EDT (#)
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Guns are good!
Submitted by Phallic_Cymbals (user info) at 2005-08-19 22:42:04 EDT (#)
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By your logic everyone should be walking around with 5 grenades and an M-16.
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