Yet Another Reason the Religious Will Sink the Right (1013 hits)
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Submitted by Zoidberg (View user info) at 2005-08-23 02:45:11 EDT
Now we see the cracks. The republican party sold its soul to the religious right for the election, and now they'll slowly reap what they sowed.
Fuck Pat Robertson. Your only job is to get people to acknowledge G_d. Politics is none of your concern asshole, thats why no one voted for you when you ran for president.
Just stumbled on this...
http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2005-08-22-robertson-_x.htm
VIRGINIA BEACH (AP) — Religious broadcaster Pat Robertson called on Monday for the assassination of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez, calling him a "terrific danger" to the United States.
'We have the ability to take him (Chavez) out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability,' Robertson said.
By Gene Puskar, AP
Robertson, founder of the Christian Coalition of America and a former presidential candidate, said on "The 700 Club" it was the United States' duty to stop Chavez from making Venezuela a "launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism."
Chavez has emerged as one of the most outspoken critics of President Bush, accusing the United States of conspiring to topple his government and possibly backing plots to assassinate him. U.S. officials have called the accusations ridiculous.
"You know, I don't know about this doctrine of assassination, but if he thinks we're trying to assassinate him, I think that we really ought to go ahead and do it," Robertson said. "It's a whole lot cheaper than starting a war ... and I don't think any oil shipments will stop."
Electronic pages and a message to a Robertson spokeswoman were not immediately returned Monday evening.
Venezuela is the fifth largest oil exporter and a major supplier of oil to the United States. The CIA estimates that U.S. markets absorb almost 59% of Venezuela's total exports.
Venezuela's government has demanded in the past that the United States crack down on Cuban and Venezuelan "terrorists" in Florida who they say are conspiring against Chavez.
Robertson accused the United States of failing to act when Chavez was briefly overthrown in 2002.
"We have the ability to take him out, and I think the time has come that we exercise that ability," Robertson said.
"We don't need another $200 billion war to get rid of one, you know, strong-arm dictator," he continued. "It's a whole lot easier to have some of the covert operatives do the job and then get it over with."
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Submitted by whataefag (user info) at 2005-10-21 16:02:01 EDT (#)
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pay your fucking cellphone bill. please.
Submitted by whataefag (user info) at 2005-10-17 14:23:04 EDT (#)
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wow, zoid, you've gathered quite the slew of haters. nice work, bravo, etc.
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-10-14 02:58:08 EDT (#)
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blah
Submitted by tuesdaydelay (user info) at 2005-10-02 13:57:32 EDT (#)
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Eh? What are you on? Fucking spaz.
Submitted by d_prime (user info) at 2005-10-01 14:19:15 EDT (#)
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In my respect for the ideas of others (in this case yours) I've decided to start rating the poster, not the post.
Submitted by Captain_Lurk (user info) at 2005-09-28 22:22:46 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Barnymeinhoff (user info) at 2005-09-26 05:52:22 EDT (#)
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by way of an apology for the french millitary victories post.
I was drunk and I hadnt seen it before.
Submitted by jack11058 (user info) at 2005-09-23 14:48:41 EDT (#)
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Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-08-23 07:56:48 (#)
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What the fuck is a communist muslim anyway? It's oxymoronic. Unfortunately the christian listeners who take this shit seriously are the same. Minus the oxy.
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actually, in 1969, the Democratic Front for the Liberation of Palestine (DFLP) split from the People's Front for the Liberation of Palestine (PFLP) because the PFLP did not strongly enough embrace the principles of marxism. then, in 1971...
never mind.
Submitted by Phallic_Cymbals (user info) at 2005-09-11 09:06:08 EDT (#)
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YOU. USED. THE. WORD. SACCHARINE.
And, for, that, i'd be your catcher.
:-X
Let's discuss this when i'm sober.
Submitted by Chinaski (user info) at 2005-09-10 20:48:33 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2005-08-24 18:57:48 EDT (#)
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Brand new Shlongy!
Submitted by Foonbo (user info) at 2005-08-23 17:13:30 EDT (#)
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It's become embarrassing to be a Christian these days.
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2005-08-23 17:09:34 EDT (#)
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Chavez is now complaining that the US is a hypocrite for allowing this kind of thing while at the same time screaming about the war on terrorism or struggle against global extremism or do as I say not as I do or whatever they are calling it today.
Sad to say, the man has a point so thanks to Pat for that one.
Submitted by spamtrap50 (user info) at 2005-08-23 11:55:10 EDT (#)
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Fred Phelps and Pat Robertson will have their own special place in Hell.
Submitted by William_Q_Percy (user info) at 2005-08-23 11:21:27 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Teephphah (user info) at 2005-08-23 10:18:01 (#)
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Pat Robertson, acting on his own, has the same rights and responsibilities as you or anyone else.
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The problem is that people like Pat Robertson are quick to defend their rights without upholding their responsibilities, it seems.
By 'people like Pat Robertson' I mean people who are extreme and irrational in their beliefs.
Don't kid yourself, Teeph. Just because the man claims to be a beacon of moral justice does not make him a good leader, a good christian, or even a good person. You don't have to defend him just because he worships the same teachings as you do.
Submitted by Thanatos (user info) at 2005-08-23 11:09:32 EDT (#)
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That guy is a nutjob. My politics usually align with the conservative, but the religious right has made me incredibly angry lately. Justice Sunday(what happened to a day of rest?) was an attack on the Constitution itself, not just the judiciary branch.
I wonder when people will realize how extreme many of our leaders(political, religious, etc.) are becoming.
Anyway, Chavez isn't that cool either. He seems like a bit of a nut, and I would like to see Venezuela in the hands of someone else.
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2005-08-23 10:46:56 EDT (#)
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Well, she retired because of her husband's medical condition so maybe it would work to just pray for the spouses of the justices to get Alzheimer's.
must more christian that way
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-08-23 10:46:20 EDT (#)
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I am +2ing this because it is the obvious, popular thing to do because pat robertson obviously represents all religions, christianity in particlar, and is a war mongering hypocrite.
COnservatives = bad
Liberals = good
+2 +2 +2
Submitted by firefly (user info) at 2005-08-23 10:23:47 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Teephphah (user info) at 2005-08-23 10:18:01 EDT (#)
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"Pat Robertson" does not necessarily equal "the 700 Club" or whichever church he is currently alligned with.
Pat Robertson, acting on his own, has the same rights and responsibilities as you or anyone else.
Loki - Justice O'Connor didn't die, but she did retire. I think you're making some logical leaps that aren't quite supported in your "Robertson wants Justices to die" thing.
Submitted by William_Q_Percy (user info) at 2005-08-23 10:17:56 EDT (#)
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Hmmm... I guess I should read the reviews before I comment.
Loki and I just brought up the exact same point.
Submitted by William_Q_Percy (user info) at 2005-08-23 10:16:51 EDT (#)
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A Christian who publically calls for the death of another man cannot be taken seriously as a person of faith.
I remember seeing something on the news where this televangelist from the south was calling for a massive prayer for room to be made on the supreme court. Seeing as how that is a life long position, he was basically praying for the death of liberal judges.
Sweet.
I just wonder how people like this even have a voice. I mean, who listens to them and takes them seriously?
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-08-23 10:11:54 EDT (#)
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Submitted by loki (user info) at 2005-08-23 09:42:18 (#)
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In a court case from 2000, tax exempt status of a church was revoked due to the use of church funds to purchase newspaper advertising to denounce the reelection campaign of Bill Clinton. The church appealed claiming that their free speech rights had been violated. The appeal was denied by a three judge panel who concluded:
"Federal tax law exempts churches and other charitable organizations from taxation provided they do not engage in certain activities, including any political campaign on behalf of or in opposition to any candidate for public office. "
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Anyone know why Pat isn't getting burned by this? Is it because his adverts don't come directly out in support of Bush, and he just mentions it in his "preaching"?
Submitted by loki (user info) at 2005-08-23 09:42:18 EDT (#)
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In a court case from 2000, tax exempt status of a church was revoked due to the use of church funds to purchase newspaper advertising to denounce the reelection campaign of Bill Clinton. The church appealed claiming that their free speech rights had been violated. The appeal was denied by a three judge panel who concluded:
"Federal tax law exempts churches and other charitable organizations from taxation provided they do not engage in certain activities, including any political campaign on behalf of or in opposition to any candidate for public office. "
Is this the same guy who has been praying for vacancies on the Supreme Court? Considering that this is a lifetime appointment, essentially he is calling on his supporters to pray for some of the justices to die.
and by "some" I mean the liberal ones
odd that really considering that the kids claim to be followers of the Prince of Peace
Submitted by sublime (user info) at 2005-08-23 09:20:49 EDT (#)
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i'd give my rebuttal but i'm afraid you'd have sex with it
Submitted by indoninja (user info) at 2005-08-23 09:19:48 EDT (#)
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"Now we see the cracks. The republican party sold its soul to the religious right for the election, and now they'll slowly reap what they sowed. "
Not sure where you get this, yeah Pat Robertson supported Bush, but does that mean Bush is a vocal supporter of Pat's? I think he is going to have enough sencse to distance himself from Pat.
And by the way, I knew he was out there, but he has really gone off the deep end with this one.
Submitted by AlwaysAnEagle (user info) at 2005-08-23 09:14:55 EDT (#)
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It's the same thing as the fringe elements of the ACLU - whom I guess you could say are infecting the sane membership thereof, but either way - the nuts are the ones who really bring the crazy, and they are ALWAYS the loudest.
Submitted by jgreening (user info) at 2005-08-23 08:52:04 EDT (#)
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I'm non-practicing, but still religious.
Pat Robertson is still an idiot.
Seriously, he's a fucking tool.
Submitted by Teephphah (user info) at 2005-08-23 08:41:10 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2005-08-23 08:01:40 (#)
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If religious groups want to talk politics they should pay taxes
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That smacks a wee bit of censorship, to me.
Politician/tax-man/cop: "You just watch what you say up there, Padre. Ya got me? I'd hate to see your lovely little Church here lose it's tax-exempt status. What will the widows and orphans do if you can't remember to shut your mouth? Think about it."
501(3)(c) does not say that you cannot engage in political activity, it says that the political activity can't be what you're primarily about. There's a difference there. Not that you care, because compliance with the law isn't your objective. Silencing someone you don't agree with is. (Or are you just THAT much of a proponent for increased taxation?)
By the way, do you feel this way about ALL 501(3)(c) non profit groups, or just the "religious" ones?
You know, groups like the Red Cross, Planned Parenthood, Amnesty International? Groups like that should be made to pay taxes if they want to talk politics too, huh?
Fucking anti-religious hypocrits, the lot of ya. And just as blinded as the blind folks you love to hate.
Submitted by killradio (user info) at 2005-08-23 08:31:34 EDT (#)
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If Adam wants to talk politics he should get an education.
Submitted by Adamdidit2u (user info) at 2005-08-23 08:01:40 EDT (#)
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If religious groups want to talk politics they should pay taxes
Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-08-23 07:56:48 EDT (#)
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What the fuck is a communist muslim anyway? It's oxymoronic. Unfortunately the christian listeners who take this shit seriously are the same. Minus the oxy.
Submitted by Zoidberg (user info) at 2005-08-23 07:56:24 EDT (#)
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and sorry Rad. Shoulda let you do it, as I put 0 effort into it. But damn. Just amazed me when I read that
Submitted by Zoidberg (user info) at 2005-08-23 07:55:19 EDT (#)
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It's just another reminder that every country has its extremists. Only difference between us and Iran is that we don't get shot for laughing at Pat Robertson
Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2005-08-23 07:33:56 EDT (#)
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Chavez is quite the champ, from what I've read. And yeah, what zakalwe said. These guys can't comprehend anything other than an "us and them" situation.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-08-23 07:18:23 EDT (#)
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Fluff, I was wondering if there is anything you have ever +2ed.
Submitted by fluff (user info) at 2005-08-23 06:52:24 EDT (#)
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Religous fanatics frighten me...
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2005-08-23 06:37:49 EDT (#)
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communism AND islamic terrorism? wow. must be an interesting place.
Submitted by Merlina (user info) at 2005-08-23 06:21:43 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by forensicgirl3 (user info) at 2005-08-23 04:34:25 EDT (#)
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<sigh> those wacky zealots!!!
Never mind that the bible says that true christians should not "be a part of the world" (government).
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-08-23 04:11:34 EDT (#)
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Robertson, founder of the Christian Coalition of America and a former presidential candidate, said on "The 700 Club" it was the United States' duty to stop Chavez from making Venezuela a "launching pad for communist infiltration and Muslim extremism."
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That's the dumbest thing I've ever seen in print. Then again I haven't read the Daily Mail recently.
Submitted by killradio (user info) at 2005-08-23 03:45:24 EDT (#)
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That's the point. If you want to assassinate the leader of a country, you don't "call for it", you go do it yourself.
Submitted by Rasta (user info) at 2005-08-23 03:40:29 EDT (#)
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Uh. What happened to forgiveness and turning the other cheek. Not to mention a church making political statements. Yoiks.
He is pushing his personal opinion in the name of religion. He should be "taken out" for doing that. lol
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-08-23 03:38:01 EDT (#)
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Submitted by killradio (user info) at 2005-08-23 03:35:04 (#)
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I call for the assassination of Bush.
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and in walks the left's answer to Pat Robertson.
Submitted by killradio (user info) at 2005-08-23 03:35:04 EDT (#)
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I call for the assassination of Bush.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-08-23 03:18:35 EDT (#)
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It is a Jewish thing.
You aren't expected to understand.
Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-08-23 03:08:28 EDT (#)
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"G_d"
Why do people always write it like that? Is there a reason?
Submitted by Death_Metal_Dude (user info) at 2005-08-23 03:06:49 EDT (#)
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scumbag*
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-08-23 03:05:49 EDT (#)
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http://www.godhatesamerica.com/ghfmir/main/index.html
wow.
Submitted by Death_Metal_Dude (user info) at 2005-08-23 02:59:42 EDT (#)
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speaking of loony nutjob Christian conservatives (what other kind are there, PWND) I say that when Fred Phelps' wretched sumbag ass finally perishes, we all gather and protest at his funeral
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-08-23 02:50:51 EDT (#)
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ANywho, this idiot is soooo wrong on so many levels.
1. What does a religious leader have anything to do with foreign policy?
2. Is he actually advocating the US violate its own laws in order to carry out his warped view on world affairs?
3. Is his organization tax-exempt? If so, why? Tax-exemption should negate your ability to advocate a political position.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-08-23 02:47:06 EDT (#)
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FUCK YOU I WAS IN THE MIDDLE OF PREPARING A POST ABOUT THIS VERY THING
FUCK YOU FUCK YOU