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Submitted by brianthetruthspeaker (View user info) at 2005-09-05 09:30:40 EDT
By Ben Stein
A few truths, for those who have ears and eyes and care to know the truth:
1.) The hurricane that hit New Orleans and Mississippi and Alabama was an astonishing tragedy. The suffering and loss of life and peace of mind of the residents of those areas is acutely horrifying.
2.) George Bush did not cause the hurricane. Hurricanes have been happening for eons. George Bush did not create them or unleash this one.
3.) George Bush did not make this one worse than others. There have been far worse hurricanes than this before George Bush was born.
4.) There is no overwhelming evidence that global warming exists as a man-made phenomenon. There is no clear-cut evidence that global warming even exists. There is no clear evidence that if it does exist it makes hurricanes more powerful or makes them aim at cities with large numbers of poor people. If global warming is a real phenomenon, which it may well be, it started long before George Bush was inaugurated, and would not have been affected at all by the Kyoto treaty, considering that Kyoto does not cover the world's worst polluters -- China, India, and Brazil. In a word, George Bush had zero to do with causing this hurricane. To speculate otherwise is belief in sorcery.
5.) George Bush had nothing to do with the hurricane contingency plans for New Orleans. Those are drawn up by New Orleans and Louisiana. In any event, the plans were perfectly good: mandatory evacuation. It is in no way at all George Bush's fault that about 20 percent of New Orleans neglected to follow the plan. It is not his fault that many persons in New Orleans were too confused to realize how dangerous the hurricane would be. They were certainly warned. It's not George Bush's fault that there were sick people and old people and people without cars in New Orleans. His job description does not include making sure every adult in America has a car, is in good health, has good sense, and is mobile.
6.) George Bush did not cause gangsters to shoot at rescue helicopters taking people from rooftops, did not make gang bangers rape young girls in the Superdome, did not make looters steal hundreds of weapons, in short make New Orleans into a living hell.
7.) George Bush is the least racist President in mind and soul there has ever been and this is shown in his appointments over and over. To say otherwise is scandalously untrue.
8.) George Bush is rushing every bit of help he can to New Orleans and Mississippi and Alabama as soon as he can. He is not a magician. It takes time to organize huge convoys of food and now they are starting to arrive. That they get in at all considering the lawlessness of the city is a miracle of bravery and organization.
9.) There is not the slightest evidence at all that the war in Iraq has diminished the response of the government to the emergency. To say otherwise is pure slander.
10.) If the energy the news media puts into blaming Bush for an Act of God worsened by stupendous incompetence by the New Orleans city authorities and the malevolence of the criminals of the city were directed to helping the morale of the nation, we would all be a lot better off.
11.) New Orleans is a great city with many great people. It will recover and be greater than ever. Sticking pins into an effigy of George Bush that does not resemble him in the slightest will not speed the process by one day.
12.) The entire episode is a dramatic lesson in the breathtaking callousness of government officials at the ground level. Imagine if Hillary Clinton had gotten her way and they were in charge of your health care.
God bless all of those dear people who are suffering so much, and God bless those helping them, starting with George Bush.
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UPDATE: Sunday, Sept. 4, 2005, 2:13 p.m.:
More Mysteries of Katrina:
Why is it that the snipers who shot at emergency rescuers trying to save people in hospitals and shelters are never mentioned except in passing, and Mr. Bush, who is turning over heaven and earth to rescue the victims of the storm, is endlessly vilified?
What church does Rev. Al Sharpton belong to that believes in passing blame and singling out people by race for opprobrium and hate?
What special abilities does the media have for deciding how much blame goes to the federal government as opposed to the city government of New Orleans for the aftereffects of Katrina?
If able-bodied people refuse to obey a mandatory evacuation order for a city, have they not assumed the risk that ill effects will happen to them?
When the city government simply ignores its own sick and hospitalized and elderly people in its evacuation order, is Mr. Bush to blame for that?
Is there any problem in the world that is not Mr. Bush's fault, or have we reverted to a belief in a sort of witchcraft where we credit a mortal man with the ability to create terrifying storms and every other kind of ill wind?
Where did the idea come from that salvation comes from hatred and criticism and mockery instead of love and co-operation?
www.spectator.org . . .
User Reviews
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-09-06 12:45:03 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by wookie (user info) at 2005-09-06 09:29:34 EDT (#)
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Ben Stein was right in giving up his political career.
He should stick to movies, commercials, and hosting game shows.
Submitted by Unabonger (user info) at 2005-09-05 22:04:11 EDT (#)
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Submitted by AlwaysAnEagle (user info) at 2005-09-05 21:41:12 (#)
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Didn't you leave?
People who are accusing Bush of causing the hurricane, if there are any, are morons.
People accusing the federal government of responding in a piss poor manner, however, have more than one leg to stand on.
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And thorpe...i fucking love you man. touch me where i pee.
Submitted by AlwaysAnEagle (user info) at 2005-09-05 21:41:12 EDT (#)
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Didn't you leave?
People who are accusing Bush of causing the hurricane, if there are any, are morons.
People accusing the federal government of responding in a piss poor manner, however, have more than one leg to stand on.
Submitted by munkeypants (user info) at 2005-09-05 21:11:56 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by bob (user info) at 2005-09-05 19:24:43 EDT (#)
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ahahahahahhaahhahahha
i love this bullshit.
Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2005-09-05 17:32:12 EDT (#)
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Argh! Oh no! Stop!
Less truth please, my sorry liberal ass can't handle it!
Submitted by Auf-Der-Maur (user info) at 2005-09-05 17:02:01 EDT (#)
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Yeah, George Bush has done everyhtign in his power. He is truly a godlike person, who is handling things flawlessly. Lets not criticize when he deserves it, just because he is a good guy kinda trying kinda hard, and these are scary times we are in.
Oh, and -1 for #7. That is ridiculous. What about Lyndon B Johnson, or Bill Clinton?
Submitted by firefly (user info) at 2005-09-05 16:20:57 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Boon (user info) at 2005-09-05 16:20:03 EDT (#)
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Please learn how to do something other than quote right-wing propaganda.
Submitted by BLITZKREIG_BOB (user info) at 2005-09-05 16:07:28 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by dwr_budr (user info) at 2005-09-05 15:55:12 EDT (#)
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Ben Stein needs to stop sucking Dubya's dick.
Submitted by Bubba2341 (user info) at 2005-09-05 14:49:38 EDT (#)
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When it comes to caring about others, GWB wouldn't make
a wart on Jimmy Carter's ass. And I am not a Democrat.
New Orleans is a bad scene, but I still think Bush
coulda sent shit in sooner.
Submitted by Wallstreet (user info) at 2005-09-05 13:56:55 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2005-09-05 12:22:39 EDT (#)
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I'm a foreign motherfucker
Submitted by Stabkill (user info) at 2005-09-05 12:12:30 EDT (#)
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All the foreign mother fuckers hate you.
Submitted by earth_collapse (user info) at 2005-09-05 11:34:18 EDT (#)
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I love Ben Stein, but he and I are at a disagreement.
I think there is plenty that Bush could have done earlier to ease all the suffering.
He is the President of the United States. He has the power to help out a little.
But, +1 cause Ben Stein is the bomb diggity.
Submitted by forthewin (user info) at 2005-09-05 11:21:24 EDT (#)
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This is obviously an article by someone that blindly supports George Bush.
2.) George Bush did not cause the hurricane. Hurricanes have been happening for eons. George Bush did not create them or unleash this one.
The Federal Emergency Management Agency said it was inevitable for a hurricane to do exactly what it did, long before this happened. It was proposed to GWB that he take the proper precautions, and he didn't. Now don't give some shit about how he didn't "create" the hurricane. All that's doing is making anyone that says anything against Bush look like an idiot. No, GWB didn't create the hurricane, he just didn't prevent it when given the chance.
3.) George Bush did not make this one worse than others. There have been far worse hurricanes than this before George Bush was born.
Once again, see my answer to 2.
4.) There is no overwhelming evidence that global warming exists as a man-made phenomenon. There is no clear-cut evidence that global warming even exists. There is no clear evidence that if it does exist it makes hurricanes more powerful or makes them aim at cities with large numbers of poor people. If global warming is a real phenomenon, which it may well be, it started long before George Bush was inaugurated, and would not have been affected at all by the Kyoto treaty, considering that Kyoto does not cover the world's worst polluters -- China, India, and Brazil. In a word, George Bush had zero to do with causing this hurricane. To speculate otherwise is belief in sorcery.
What the hell is clear-cut evidence? I guess since it's getting warmer the more we screw up the environment, it's just coincidence. As for saying George Bush had "zero" to do with global warming, I'd say that is untrue. I'd say he had at least a very small percentage, considering that he butchered so many of the environmental laws since he got re-elected.
As for the rest of the list, it was just plain stupid to answer. E.G.
6.) George Bush did not cause gangsters to shoot at rescue helicopters taking people from rooftops, did not make gang bangers rape young girls in the Superdome, did not make looters steal hundreds of weapons, in short make New Orleans into a living hell.
REALLY??? You mean he didn't actually tell them to rape those people? Wow!
This list is just stupid.
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Submitted by Brianthetruthspeaker (user info) at 2005-09-05 09:50:42 (#)
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As true and simple as this post is the Bush haters don't care about the truth.
They will spin this anyway they can.
Their anti Bush web sites are filled with there own "truths"
and they have plenty of readers.
They will call the obvious ...lies
and tell you that you are brained washed.
When anyone can see that its them. Who are fooled by their own base
.but it's a waste of your time.
You can lead a horse to water but you cant make them drink.
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And what the bloody hell is this, Brian? This list is obviously based on this mans opinion, and no facts are mentioned. I guess opinion is now automatically considered truth. You don't need to "spin this" to argue against it, because it's a bunch of shit in the first place. All you need to do to counter this nonsense is simple facts. You don't need to "spin" anything.
You can lead a horse to water, but you can't make him drink if it's obvious to him that the water is shit.
Submitted by Sacrilicious (user info) at 2005-09-05 11:07:43 EDT (#)
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More truth please.
Submitted by hafguitarist6767 (user info) at 2005-09-05 11:04:34 EDT (#)
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i dont like bush but i definitly have to agree
Submitted by AlexorGM (user info) at 2005-09-05 10:45:29 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Chazzy (user info) at 2005-09-05 09:43:29 (#)
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2005-09-05 09:34:55 (#)
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1. Many of the points in this post are completely untrue.
2. Most of the others are blindingly obvious.
3. SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTT
Submitted by Richard_Whitely (user info) at 2005-09-05 10:34:52 EDT (#)
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Georgy porgy pudding and pie
fuck off
Submitted by Phallic_Cymbals (user info) at 2005-09-05 10:14:07 EDT (#)
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It doesnt matter how true this is, you just ripped it off someone else. You're not going to get a decent score for appropriated material.
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2005-09-05 10:13:33 EDT (#)
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it's pointless for brian to continue stealing our oxygen.
Submitted by swamp_donkey (user info) at 2005-09-05 10:10:05 EDT (#)
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Dude, it's pointless to try and argue sensible politics on this forum.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-09-05 10:05:49 EDT (#)
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All your base are belong to teh liberal conspiracy.
What exactly is the 'liberal agenda'?
Submitted by Barnymeinhoff (user info) at 2005-09-05 10:05:16 EDT (#)
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giggle
Submitted by Brianthetruthspeaker (user info) at 2005-09-05 09:50:42 EDT (#)
Ranking: 0
As true and simple as this post is the Bush haters don't care about the truth.
They will spin this anyway they can.
Their anti Bush web sites are filled with there own "truths"
and they have plenty of readers.
They will call the obvious ...lies
and tell you that you are brained washed.
When anyone can see that its them. Who are fooled by their own base
.but it's a waste of your time.
You can lead a horse to water but you cant make them drink.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-09-05 09:46:04 EDT (#)
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A whole bunch of questions and no answers, rather beneath you Brian. I expect better.
This however made me remember something some bloke in the pub told me:
12.) The entire episode is a dramatic lesson in the breathtaking callousness of government officials at the ground level. Imagine if Hillary Clinton had gotten her way and they were in charge of your health care.
Bloke in pub said that the reason the Clinton family (who it should be noted are on very freindly terms with family Bush) had an agreement not to oppose G.W. Bush during his elections and that in return they would not oppose Hilary Clinton in her run for office.
A female President who was the wife of my favourite president (US or otherwise). That'd be something to see, eh?
Submitted by Phallic_Cymbals (user info) at 2005-09-05 09:45:34 EDT (#)
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"7.) George Bush is the least racist President in mind and soul there has ever been and this is shown in his appointments over and over. To say otherwise is scandalously untrue"
Sometimes i need to remind myself why i don't read your posts.
Submitted by swamp_donkey (user info) at 2005-09-05 09:44:56 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Chazzy (user info) at 2005-09-05 09:43:29 EDT (#)
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Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2005-09-05 09:34:55 (#)
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1. Many of the points in this post are completely untrue.
2. Most of the others are blindingly obvious.
3. SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTT
Submitted by THX1138 (user info) at 2005-09-05 09:40:54 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by apollo88 (user info) at 2005-09-05 09:40:17 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by Phallic_Cymbals (user info) at 2005-09-05 09:37:54 EDT (#)
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Thanks, Brian.
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2005-09-05 09:34:55 EDT (#)
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1. Many of the points in this post are completely untrue.
2. Most of the others are blindingly obvious.
3. SHIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIIITTTTTTTTTTT
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2005-09-05 09:34:07 EDT (#)
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hey, this was actually quite comprehensible, and even reasonable....maybe you should cut and paste your posts more often.