Who hates religion (secular) more? (2088 hits)
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Submitted by brianthetruthspeaker (View user info) at 2005-09-10 14:43:24 EDT
I'm a Christian and I don't hate atheists..I pray for them
I don't hate agnostics I pity them
I don't hate "normal" Islamism because its non-extant (the truth is out about radical Islamic fundamentalists).
I don't hate Satanists because they are lost forever.
What's you opinions? The informed left call religion "only for the stupid" that people of fath are in some way handicapped.
If they don't Hate Religion then why do they try every way every day to try and remove symbols of secular religion.
Im sure some one will post some separation of church and state!! Rant I just wonder..have you read and understand what is said?
Anytime religion is mentioned within the confines of government today people cry, "Separation of Church and State". Many people think this statement appears in the first amendment of the U.S. Constitution and therefore must be strictly enforced. However, the words: "separation", "church", and "state" do not even appear in the first amendment. The first amendment reads, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
The statement about a wall of separation between church and state was made in a letter on January 1, 1802, by Thomas Jefferson to the Danbury Baptist Association of Connecticut. The congregation heard a widespread rumor that the Congregationalists, another denomination, were to become the national religion. This was very alarming to people who knew about religious persecution in England by the state established church. Jefferson made it clear in his letter to the Danbury Congregation that the separation was to be that government would not establish a national religion or dictate to men how to worship God. Jefferson's letter from which the phrase "separation of church and state" was taken affirmed first amendment rights. Jefferson wrote:
" I contemplate with solemn reverence that act of the whole American people which declared that their legislature should "make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof," thus building a wall of separation between Church and State."
The American people knew what would happen if the State established the Church like in England. Even though it was not recent history to them, they knew that England went so far as forbidding worship in private homes and sponsoring all church activities and keeping people under strict dictates. They were forced to go to the state established church and do things that were contrary to their conscience. No other churches were allowed, and mandatory attendance of the established church was compelled under the Conventicle Act of 1665. Failure to comply would result in imprisonment and torture.
The people did not want freedom from religion, but freedom of religion. The only real reason to separate the church from the state would be to instill a new morality and establish a new system of beliefs.
Our founding fathers were God-fearing men who understood that for a country to stand it must have a solid foundation; the Bible was the source of this foundation. They believed that God's ways were much higher than Man's ways and held firmly that the Bible was the absolute standard of truth and used the Bible as a source to form our government.
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Submitted by screamfeeder (user info) at 2005-09-14 21:14:04 EDT (#)
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Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-09-14 07:13:16 (#)
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I DON'T NEED AN ALTER TO EXPRESS MY WACKO POLITICAL LEANINGS.
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Quoted for Truth.
Love ya rad...
Submitted by johnhutch (user info) at 2005-09-14 13:13:56 EDT (#)
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This served no purpose other than to rile your enemies.
Submitted by missflibble (user info) at 2005-09-14 12:54:25 EDT (#)
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I'm an ordained minister of the universal life church. i dont pray for anybody. they wanna fuck themselves up, let 'em. nowt I can do about it.
Submitted by Foonbo (user info) at 2005-09-14 12:46:30 EDT (#)
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I don't hate you, I just wish for your slow, painful death (or what you'd call "martyrdom").
Submitted by Quint (user info) at 2005-09-14 12:33:50 EDT (#)
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Dude, the Bible was a book written by men to control people. Not to mention that Christianity is but one of many religions, both in the US and the rest of the world. The reason there is no single correct relgion is simple: all relgions have the right idea, but try to get there the wrong way. Be it radical terrorism, infringing on rights because of "moral autrhority" or telling their followers not to seek life-saving medical procedures, most religions create harm by tring to do good.
Submitted by firefly (user info) at 2005-09-14 10:15:59 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-09-14 07:13:16 EDT (#)
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I DON'T NEED AN ALTER TO EXPRESS MY WACKO POLITICAL LEANINGS.
Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-09-14 06:57:02 EDT (#)
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When the LORD your God brings you into the land you are about to enter and occupy, he will clear away many nations ahead of you: the Hittites, Girgashites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites, and Jebusites. These seven nations are all more powerful than you. When the LORD your God hands these nations over to you and you conquer them, you must completely destroy them. Make no treaties with them and show them no mercy. Do not intermarry with them, and don't let your daughters and sons marry their sons and daughters. They will lead your young people away from me to worship other gods. Then the anger of the LORD will burn against you, and he will destroy you. (Deuteronomy 7:1-4 NLT)
Hitler was a god, no doubt.
Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2005-09-14 06:40:39 EDT (#)
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I'm surprised this generated so much comment.
BRIANTHETRUTHSPEAKER IS A SHITTY ALTER
POSSIBLY RAD'S
BUT PROBABLY NOT
Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-09-14 06:05:39 EDT (#)
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http://www.infidels.org/library/modern/jim_meritt/bible-contradictions.html
http://www.greenwych.ca/bible-a.htm
http://www.huppi.com/kangaroo/L-bibleatrocities.html
http://www.religioustolerance.org/imm_bibl1.htm
http://www.religioustolerance.org/imm_bibl2.htm
http://www.evilbible.com/
Your god doesn't exist and if he did he's an arsehole.
Submitted by screamfeeder (user info) at 2005-09-14 05:20:15 EDT (#)
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"The informed left call religion "only for the stupid" that people of fath are in some way handicapped."
hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha
fath or fath.
abbr.
fathom.
fath·om
n. Abbr. fth. or fm.
tr.v. fath·omed, fath·om·ing, fath·oms
1. To penetrate to the meaning or nature of; comprehend.
2. To determine the depth of
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Submitted by Average_Dan (user info) at 2005-09-13 18:57:05 EDT (#)
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+2 robot arm
Dates fot Ubercon Greenville, SC '05-'06 are up!!
http://www.ubersite.com/m/75040
Submitted by Draqus (user info) at 2005-09-13 17:09:34 EDT (#)
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You may pity agnostics, but I pity people who can't think for themselves and gladly swallow everything that the fundamentalist right has ever spoon-fed them.
Your knowledge and understanding of the Bible is clearly lacking- your post makes this painfully obvious to me. Never be afraid to question how things really are, or how things appear to be, or any of that shit.
And stop being so downright fucking arrogant. You have no fucking right to run my fucking my life, or anyone's fucking life, so take your damned ignorant words away from anywhere where I can see them. What you partake in is discrimination, segregation, sectarianism, and generalised hate crimes. And you fucking sicken me, because that runs entirely contrary to everything the Bible says, and yet you claim the Bible backs you.
I am no Christian. *You* are exactly why I am not.
Congratulations. You have a total of -1 converts.
Submitted by jack0173 (user info) at 2005-09-13 13:06:54 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2005-09-13 09:07:58 EDT (#)
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Only for the stupid?
You have an invisible friend who has three personalities but is only one being, which makes him a skitzo (I can not spell) and although he never talks to you does anything or makes any apperances you know what he wants becasue of a copy of a very old book which someone (I assume your parents) have told you is his will. It often contradicts itself and reality (somesort of animal that has six legs only has four according to the bible), and says you will suffer eternal agony if you do a variety of things including but not limited to:
1.Sensible ones like kill people
2.Engage in homosexual activities (like becoming a priest presumably)
3.Eat shellfish
4.Wear clothes made from more than one type of cloth (like the pope)
There are also hints near the start that wearing clohtes for any reason other than protection is a sin.
I think that is stupidity.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-09-13 08:56:49 EDT (#)
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In the end I just couldn't be bothered to finish it.
Submitted by Berty (user info) at 2005-09-13 08:54:49 EDT (#)
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I hate religion so much I declared Jihad on it.
heh heh, now to read the post...
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2005-09-13 08:47:48 EDT (#)
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Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:10:41 (#)
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UNCHA-UNCHA-UNCHA-UNCHA-UNCHA-UNCHA
GOD....IS A DJ!
DUM DUM DUM...DUM-DUM DUM-DUM
WE COME 1 COME 1 COME 1 COME 1 COME....1
who would've thought faithless lyrics were more profound than a brianthetrurhspeaker post?
anyone who's read one.
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HEHEH
Submitted by DCWoody (user info) at 2005-09-13 08:45:27 EDT (#)
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Im gibving you a plus1 cos you've put a lot of effort into that gif, (or nabbed it) but what it actually says or the rest of the post, is bollocks.
In answer to the question you may or may not have asked (I wasn't paying attention),
I really really hate organised religion, the idea of persuading young people that they shouldn't do thia and should do that and if they dont they're going to be tortured for eternity, I find really sick.
Submitted by Whiplash (user info) at 2005-09-13 00:07:35 EDT (#)
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Uber isn't the place to convert people, Bud.
I understand your cause and all that but it's just the worst platform you can go on in situations like this. It's like preaching Racial tolerance to The Klan.
Want to save souls? Stay off the internet.
Submitted by AlwaysAnEagle (user info) at 2005-09-12 22:13:19 EDT (#)
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Brian, Brian, Brian.
You have to stop.
I know you put effort into your posts - most of the time - but every time I read one, my eyes gain a life of their own and start rolling so hard it creates a sonic boom.
Please.
The children who live down the street are all bleeding from the ears and I think their parents might be dead. Stop before the crushing waves of sonic doom reduce my whole city to crumbling ruin.
Submitted by Slighty_Obnoxious (user info) at 2005-09-12 18:03:30 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by congo (user info) at 2005-09-12 16:34:21 EDT (#)
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Brianthecrapspewer is always good for an entertaining set of responses, that's for damn sure.
Submitted by JonnyX (user info) at 2005-09-12 13:28:19 EDT (#)
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Yet another pathetic attempt to troll for flames...
Submitted by shitfuck (user info) at 2005-09-12 13:11:34 EDT (#)
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Absolute fucking garbage.
Submitted by Adereterial (user info) at 2005-09-12 12:28:53 EDT (#)
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I'm telling you this NOW - before I even read the rest of your post and before I even contemplate my proper response.
DO NOT PRAY FOR ME.
I have made my choice and I stick to it - I will not be swayed. You are as welcome to your faith as I am welcome to my lack of faith. I find your assumption that I need to be 'prayed for' insulting.
Submitted by TheSpook (user info) at 2005-09-12 09:56:45 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Death_Metal_Dude (user info) at 2005-09-10 20:22:04 (#)
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who hates religion most? smart people
Submitted by FartSmeller (user info) at 2005-09-12 09:09:35 EDT (#)
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Religion is a crutch.
Submitted by Phate (user info) at 2005-09-12 02:39:51 EDT (#)
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stfu biblethumper
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2005-09-12 01:31:33 EDT (#)
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I see you haven't bothered to respond in a while, you ignorant primate. Too busy praying to some big invisible man who lives in the sky to defend your post?
Submitted by Unabonger (user info) at 2005-09-11 22:32:48 EDT (#)
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ok i read it. I think the left State, instead of removing the mentioned items from the hands of the church, are instead removing them from the hads of parents. Everything listed in your flash under church should be parentally imbued upon our children not religiously imbued. Maybe, if religion took as great an impact on society as it did when nobody knew how to read, the state wouldn't have to educate about sex, drugs, and moral character. But the religious aspect isn't near as influencing on our children and parents just don't seem to give a fuck these days. What do we do?
Shit, if the state can get it done, why not let them? Fucking parents aren't doing it.
As far as religion is concerned, if it works for you, right on!
If it doesn't, right on!
Either way, there are certain moral lessons taught in the christian bible that anyone of any religion can respect. To not steal and not murder and not practice adultery and not steal...these aren't things that are only followed by members of specific religious circles. These are moral ways of evolved, civilized society. Those that don't follow them aren't lacking in religion, they are lacking in moral, civilized fiber.
I say castrate rapist on first offenses.
I say murder them second time.
I say assrape someone who steals.
Look at your local community's website and the list of sex offenders.
You go to jail for 6 months for smoking pot. You get 10 years probation for sexually assaulting a child. Something's wrong there.
Submitted by XICOHTENCATL-NELLI (user info) at 2005-09-11 22:22:18 EDT (#)
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Icarus1987 2008!
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2005-09-11 22:20:02 EDT (#)
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I'm still curious about this "secular religion" business.
Submitted by Unabonger (user info) at 2005-09-11 22:06:16 EDT (#)
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+2 for the flash.
i didn't read the post.
Submitted by lordofthedance (user info) at 2005-09-11 21:50:57 EDT (#)
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Submitted by fried-green-potatoes (user info) at 2005-09-10 21:32:20 (#)
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Theology... masquerading as political science... masquerading as Tetris.
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Hahahahaha....seriously. The comments were priceless.
Submitted by WellFedEthiopian (user info) at 2005-09-11 19:25:29 EDT (#)
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http://biblebabble.curbjaw.com/
Silly Christians...
Submitted by ConorJS (user info) at 2005-09-11 14:57:37 EDT (#)
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Fuckin' fascist. Just because Christianity has certain values that are approved of the world around doesn't mean that every government out there should base every law on the ten commandments. As an atheist, I think I speak for a good number of us when I say don't pray for me.
Submitted by Sphagnum (user info) at 2005-09-11 14:31:12 EDT (#)
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"That's fucking interesting, Man!"
Submitted by XICOHTENCATL-NELLI (user info) at 2005-09-11 14:28:36 EDT (#)
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Plus 2 for bang.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-09-11 13:27:28 EDT (#)
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OMG WHOOPS
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-09-11 13:27:16 EDT (#)
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banga is a fucking genius
Submitted by XICOHTENCATL-NELLI (user info) at 2005-09-11 13:05:38 EDT (#)
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Minus googolplex for this bible thumping church rat!
I'll give you a good reason for why god has no business in public education: Every day historians and archeologists prove that the bible is not very accurate. (i.e.) It's a crock of bullshit of biblical proportions. Teachers are basically people of science,and have the moral obligation of professing the truth. If people took the bible seriously chances are you would have never made it out of the birth canal. You beat the odds thanks to science and so will your kids. But there is no such thing as chance in nature,the nature that your version of god created. You are disobeying his will,by beating the odds this long. Only a lesser inteligence sees reality and ignores it. You are a lesser intelligence and are alive thanks to science,because according to god, you and your kind should be dead.
A thank you,credit and recognition is what you might want to show, when someone else down your gene pool beats the odds.
Submitted by icarus1987 (user info) at 2005-09-11 10:39:09 EDT (#)
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-2 for sheer lack of foresight and common sense.
>>The people did not want freedom from religion, but freedom of religion.<<
Do you know what *true freedom is? Anarchy. You want to put the ten commandments up in a courthouse? Fine. Then everyone else who pays for that courthouse, every taxpayer of every religion, should have the right to put their symbols up there beside it. The star of david, the crescent moon, upside down crosses for the reactionary Satanists, statues of Buddha, Kwan Yin, Vishnu, totem animals, Bubastis, Zeus, and you'd better believe the Pagans and New Agers are going to insist on all their individual gods/godesses/etc get represented. And what about placement?Everyone's going to want to be front and center, so who gets it? The religion with the most backing? Doesn't seem terribly fair. It would be rather like giving white folk the best parking spots. So who gets it, and moreover, how do you plan on directing foot traffic when your entryway is filled with over a thousand statues? Or perhaps we could cast them all in pewter miniatures (at the taxpayer's expense of course) and put them in a curio. When they no longer seem terribly relevant to the entryway as no one remembers WHY a thousand pewter miniatures were displayed in the entryway, they can move the curio to a basement or broom closet or museum of stupid ideas.
Freedom of religion, in the government sense, means freedom FROM religion. Religion, as you observed, serves many of mankind's more humane needs; welfare, education etc. So does any social institution that has evolved to work. The goal of any social institutions, whether it be a religious one or a governmental body, should be to unite its populous. This is where religion and politics differ. A religion's goal is not to unify all people. Catholics do not want to unite Protestants (though they would love to convert them). Jews do not want to unite Muslims. Buddhists do not want to unite Lutherans. They each want to unite their people to their dogma/beliefs/paradigms. Governments have entirely different goals. The Canadian government wants to unify ALL Canadians; to get them to work together; pay taxes; drive on the right side of the road. Same with the US, France, Britain, etc. I don't care if you're a Christian leader; as a leader, you are supposed to represent ALL your people. If you fail to do so, you have failed as a leader. If you use your power to place factional symbols or icons on government property, you are really nothing more than a marketer or salesman taking part in product placement. Same would hold true if you were going to use your political power to affect religious change.
Submitted by Nator (user info) at 2005-09-11 07:34:58 EDT (#)
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Ignorance! Gross generalization! Xenophobe!
Submitted by jeveuxgagner (user info) at 2005-09-11 06:30:29 EDT (#)
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goddam -2
I MEANT MINUS 2
Submitted by jeveuxgagner (user info) at 2005-09-11 06:29:57 EDT (#)
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you are a genuine nutter
Submitted by Chazzy (user info) at 2005-09-11 06:14:54 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Bob_Dole (user info) at 2005-09-11 06:11:20 EDT (#)
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Sorry- brianthetruthspeaker, You've won the "Bob Dole Rant o the Day", and another -2. The flash animation amlost won you a -1, but, the corss at the end screwed it up.
http://www.ubersite.com/m/74910
Submitted by fluff (user info) at 2005-09-11 05:55:32 EDT (#)
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Believe what you want. And be sure I'll do the same thing.
But STOP bothering us! I don't care about you and leave you alone. So do the same for me will ya?
Submitted by Banga3386 (user info) at 2005-09-11 04:53:49 EDT (#)
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Furthermore, these two comments sum up the basic sentiment for all of us who shouldn't let the ignorant get to us (as difficult as it may be):
Submitted by tinactin (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:07:02 (#)
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Oh, come on.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:18:48 (#)
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go away again please.
you make the rest of us conservatives look so so bad.
Submitted by Banga3386 (user info) at 2005-09-11 04:44:27 EDT (#)
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Why waste your time on us Atheists? We have no radical religiously motivated objectives, no crusades (yours were a gas by the way), and no rhetoric to speak of. We don't waste your time, so don't make up for it by wasting more of yours. Your time is better spent working for the NRA; protecting my right to carry a gun so I can protect myself from religious wingnuts like yourself.
Look: Atheists have people like me who will be funny and tell you the straight business whereas the rest of you have people like Pat Roberts, Jessie Jackson, and Usif Islam (Cat Stevens).
By the way, the Jews throw better parties, only slightly better than Mexicans and the Greek. Not sure what that has to do with anything but worth mentioning.
The Bang has spoken
Submitted by BattlePope (user info) at 2005-09-11 03:55:42 EDT (#)
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May i ask you one question? Do you think that your christian God is real and all the other gods worshipped by other religions aren't? Obviously you do, or you wouldn't have written this post, but why? I mean... you could argue that miracles do happen (and there would be a LOT to argue), but what if it wasnt Yaweh working them but Zeus... or Juno, Hermes, Satan, Shiva, vodoo spirits or tooth faeries??
(sorry for bad english and cranky writing.. i'm italian so gimme a break)
Submitted by Malachewaii (user info) at 2005-09-11 01:39:17 EDT (#)
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Brian, first and foremost, you were smarter, and I liked you more on Family Guy.
Secondly, it's that First Amendment you're picking apart that is allowing you
to post all of this shit without being persecuted, and lynched. Or worse yet..
(or better yet..) stoned. It's one thing to belive in something, and hold firm
to your own beliefs, and it's quite another to try to push your beliefs on others.
You're no better than Satan, trying to tempt people with something they're not willing
to accept.
Submitted by Sacrilicious (user info) at 2005-09-11 00:58:30 EDT (#)
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Brian, I question what your motives are on this site. Do you believe such polarization will win converts? All I ever infer is that you are self-righteous, judgmental, and intolerant. If this is not the case, you may want to consider a change it attitude toward your writing (when you aren't plagiarizing). I could write a book in response, but instead:
"However, the words: "separation", "church", and "state" do not even appear in the first amendment. The first amendment reads, "Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof..."
Try to follow me here: Congress=State. Make no law=separation. Religion=Church. Understand?
pity-Pronunciation: 'pi-tE Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural pit·ies
Etymology: Middle English pite, from Old French pité, from Latin pietat-, pietas piety, pity, from pius pious 1 a : sympathetic sorrow for one suffering, distressed, or unhappy
There are many agnostics who are not suffering, distressed, or unhappy. Pity for them is wasted.
Quotes from some of those Founding Fathers you refer to as Christians:
"Whenever we read the obscene stories, the voluptuous debaucheries, the cruel and torturous executions, the unrelenting vindictiveness, with which more than half the Bible is filled, it would be more consistent that we called it the word of a demon, than the word of God. It is a history of wickedness, that has served to corrupt and brutalize mankind." - Thomas Paine (The Age of Reason, 1794-1795.)
"Question with boldness even the existence of a god." - Thomas Jefferson (letter to Peter Carr, 10 August 1787)
"During almost fifteen centuries has the legal establishment of Christianity been on trial. What have been its fruits? More or less in all places, pride and indolence in the Clergy, ignorance and servility in the laity; in both, superstition, bigotry and persecution." - James Madison (Memorial and Remonstrance against Religious Assessments, 1785.)
"The Christian god can easily be pictured as virtually the same god as the many ancient gods of past civilizations. The Christian god is a three headed monster; cruel, vengeful and capricious. If one wishes to know more of this raging, three headed beast-like god, one only needs to look at the caliber of people who say they serve him. They are always of two classes; fools and hypocrites. To compel a man to furnish contributions of money for the propagation of opinions which he disbelieves and abhors, is sinful and tyrannical." -Thomas Jefferson
Submitted by ih8u2man (user info) at 2005-09-11 00:58:16 EDT (#)
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Revolution-airy....
but fucking lame bitch.
Submitted by A-Daamage (user info) at 2005-09-11 00:49:08 EDT (#)
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"We need more atheists, and nothing will get you there faster than reading the damn Bible." - Penn Jillette
Submitted by JinkyWilliams (user info) at 2005-09-11 00:24:09 EDT (#)
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Doh! Forgot something:
"...The whole "don't worry about what others think of you" is a largely misunderstood piece of Christian dogma. Yes, it is true that..."
Yes, it is true that one should not allow the perceptions and actions of others to dissuade you from doing that which you ought. However, there is much to be said for avoiding the appearance of evil. How is one able to be a sound proponent of a belief if one cannot live a life that draws people to desire that life?
If the Christian church was a marketing advisor firm, they'd be in the red before sundown. What a completely horrible job Christians in general have done in living a life that reflects the positives of a right relationship with God. Based on all the Christians you've run into, how many made you want to up and run to the nearest church and sign up?
Exactly.
And what kind of chance do these individuals have of speaking *anything* into anyone else's life?
Remember, Brian, that you, like all others who fly the banner of "Christian", have the responsibility of reflecting the principles that guided Jesus and being a right representative of the Christian God. Something that, frankly, this post and subsequent replies do not do.
Submitted by JinkyWilliams (user info) at 2005-09-11 00:14:51 EDT (#)
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Might I suggest a bit less of a "holier than thou" approach next time you decide to broach this subject? It raises the ire of those who don't share one's understanding of the world, and doesn't make them particularly more desirous to entertain your reasonings and conclusions and rationally consider your point of view.
Regardless of if you meant it to or not, I think a safe estimate is that the vast majority of your readers, based on your writings, consider you to be a self-righteous and pompous plaguriser with nothing relevant to say and no way to intelligently speak into their lives or provide them with anything useful. And that assessment isn't even including your responses, from which people likely derive additional negative characteristics that further alienate you from your target audience: Hot-headed, insecure, abraisive, immature.
I think you lost the respect of much of the readers at this statement: "I'm a Christian and I don't hate atheists..I pray for them". And it just keeps going downhill from there. This is regardless of what creed or understanding they are a proponent of.
You say "its good that you don't like me..I careless". Regardless of whether or not this is directed just at zakalwe or everyone in general... what does that prove? What good does that do for your case? How can you attempt to speak into the lives of another if you don't even care about how you portray yourself to others? The whole "don't worry about what others think of you" is a largely misunderstood piece of Christian dogma. Yes, it is true that
I have questions to ask of you: What was the purpose of this post? What were your intentions? Who was your target audience?
There is much wisdom to be found in the following words from the Bible: "A soft answer turns away wrath." and "A spoonful of honey will catch more flies than a gallon of vinegar." It is not enough to be right--one must also be righteous. Anyone can dispense truth if they have the facts. However, truth without love is useless.
No one likes a fire and brimstone preacher. Yes, there are times for it, but observe Jesus: How often did He do the "fire and brimstone" thing?
That said, Ubersite is an incredibly-difficult training ground, and highly critical of relgious posts at the best of times. If you can get to the point where people here respect your opinion, especially regarding Christianity, ya done good.
I leave you with John 7:18 "He who speaks on his own does so to gain honor for himself, but he who works for the honor of the one who sent him is a man of truth; there is nothing false about him."
Who's honor and glory do you wish to gain with what you say? Yours or His?
Stay orange.
--JW
Submitted by pizdets (user info) at 2005-09-11 00:06:01 EDT (#)
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My god could beat up your god.
Submitted by Insanethemind (user info) at 2005-09-10 23:50:14 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by thorpe (user info) at 2005-09-10 23:35:33 EDT (#)
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Grrrrrrrrggggzwirp boing
Submitted by Feijuada (user info) at 2005-09-10 23:16:38 EDT (#)
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I hope Satan steals your soul! :)
Submitted by fried-green-potatoes (user info) at 2005-09-10 21:32:20 EDT (#)
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Theology... masquerading as political science... masquerading as Tetris.
Submitted by Death_Metal_Dude (user info) at 2005-09-10 20:22:04 EDT (#)
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who hates religion most? smart people
Submitted by williamson (user info) at 2005-09-10 20:20:50 EDT (#)
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I hate Christians.
I'm not even one of those people who says "I can respect people to worship whatever they like". No. I can tolerate it. I can respect it as a right. But anyone who actually does it is an idiot.
Submitted by Zoidberg (user info) at 2005-09-10 20:00:28 EDT (#)
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Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2005-09-10 17:41:05 (#)
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Submitted by resignator (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:38:23 (#)
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Submitted by Zoidberg (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:09:36 (#)
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The text is yours huh?
"Thou shalt not bear false witness."
Lying cunt. The text isnt yours. Google gets you every time
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Christians sure do have a funny way of lying to themselves and believing it.
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He didn't CLAIM all of the text was his, doofus.
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Read the comments Tardboy. Here, I'll help
Submitted by Brianthetruthspeaker (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:00:56 (#)
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Zoidberg
I got the graphic from the web
the text is mine and constitutional law.
Submitted by bob (user info) at 2005-09-10 19:50:35 EDT (#)
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i miss old school republians, who only wanted to keep the rich, rich.
now they want to instill morals too.
for shame.
Submitted by Phallic_Cymbals (user info) at 2005-09-10 19:47:13 EDT (#)
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Christian male extremists mostly between the IQ's of 17 and 40.
Submitted by yeahthatme (user info) at 2005-09-10 19:22:17 EDT (#)
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Forgive me for the negative rating.
You have to, you're a Christian.
Hahahahahahahahahahahaha.
Submitted by Father_McKenzie (user info) at 2005-09-10 19:03:27 EDT (#)
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If you interperet this writing simply as it without attaching the ills of people like president Bush and other members of the Christian Right who, in my opinion, conduct un-American activities by forcing their belief on other people, you'll find the writing has many merits and is ultimately true. The state is doing far more than it needs to and doing it extremely inefficiently. The Church does wonderful things for people and communities and does it with more knowledge and incentive than the state. I absolutley agree with the opinions in this writing though it did come accross a bit strong.
Submitted by Xcuses (user info) at 2005-09-10 18:30:47 EDT (#)
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Will yo please change your name to Brianthereallyboringreligiousguy
Submitted by gabrielpm (user info) at 2005-09-10 18:19:06 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by cuberat (user info) at 2005-09-10 18:12:32 EDT (#)
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Oh, and I think you should change your name, you dont speak truth, you only spew crap.
Submitted by cuberat (user info) at 2005-09-10 18:11:49 EDT (#)
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Its not that religion should be abolished, its jus that we need to stop people like the president from forcing the morals of their religion on the rest of us.
What bush and the republicans are attempting to do is establish fundamentalist christian morality as the basis for our laws and society in this country. In case you haven't noticed, there are millions of us here who do not subscribe to these same tenats as they do. Therefore, they are in practice establishing their religion as the state religion.
It is supremely ironic that the puritans came to this country to escape religious persecution, however we now find their religion being forced upon all of us unwillingly.
Submitted by darkspoon (user info) at 2005-09-10 18:03:31 EDT (#)
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hare krishna
Submitted by chipolatte (user info) at 2005-09-10 17:56:11 EDT (#)
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Ironically, I think you're the anti-christ.
Submitted by Shlongy (user info) at 2005-09-10 17:45:26 EDT (#)
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I'm an atheist..an agnostic and an anarchist and I hate you.
Submitted by kaos-king (user info) at 2005-09-10 17:43:39 EDT (#)
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I've said it before and I'll say it again - Your religion is a disease and needs to be wiped from the Earth. I would kill you all to the last child if I could, all in the hope of a better tomorrow. Why? Because your kind would only do it to every other faith on the planet first if they had the chance. Zealotry is a sickness. Filth like you hate and fear those who aren't exactly like you. Save your prayers, Brian. Your pretend sky deity doesn't hear them...
Submitted by CaptainThorns (user info) at 2005-09-10 17:41:05 EDT (#)
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Submitted by resignator (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:38:23 (#)
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Submitted by Zoidberg (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:09:36 (#)
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The text is yours huh?
"Thou shalt not bear false witness."
Lying cunt. The text isnt yours. Google gets you every time
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Christians sure do have a funny way of lying to themselves and believing it.
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He didn't CLAIM all of the text was his, doofus.
Submitted by c1ndy (user info) at 2005-09-10 17:21:11 EDT (#)
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relegion is the cause/ excuse for many wars.
you can't have America as 'the great melting plot' and then insist that everyone follows Christinanity.
super job the church has done with all the things on the right there- no wonder the state had to step in!
Submitted by resignator (user info) at 2005-09-10 16:57:36 EDT (#)
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Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:39:01 (#)
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it's called "faith", resignator.
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Haha. You have to admit that it must be nice living in such a simple black and white world though.
Submitted by XFile (user info) at 2005-09-10 16:50:42 EDT (#)
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Do not pity me, do not pray for me. If I am lost, let me wander. For I intend to find my own truth.
Submitted by MANICMOTHER (user info) at 2005-09-10 16:25:34 EDT (#)
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Brian, does it bother you that Zakalwe and Caulaincourt are right?
Is that why you hide yourself in your cocoon of ignorance shunning the truth?
Open your mind man, see the world and humanity for what it is and not what you are told to see it as.
Submitted by bob (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:56:59 EDT (#)
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pathetic
Submitted by The_Yellow_Dart (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:52:12 EDT (#)
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You vomit inducing idiot that probably doesn't know how to tie your own shoes up.
Submitted by THX1138 (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:49:53 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by ajanssen (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:48:18 EDT (#)
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The truth is that the Buckeyes will choke tonight against the Longhorns and nothing else really matters.
HOOK 'EM HORNS MOTHERFUCKER!!!!!
Zakalwe, you shouldn't harbor so much anger. Unchecked, you will wind up being a bitter old man.
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:40:29 EDT (#)
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you certainly are careless Brian.
careless with the TRUTH.
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:39:01 EDT (#)
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it's called "faith", resignator.
Submitted by Brianthetruthspeaker (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:38:43 EDT (#)
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zakalwe
its good that you don't like me..I careless
your bullshit and lies have gone unchecked for to long.
and your only happy when the line of empty heads are nodding with +2 to your posts
if anyone has opposing view points to your crap you only know how to criticize condemn and complain.
why don't you pos ton Air America? the would love you..because your just like them
link post you crap on that page http://forums.therandirhodesshow.com/
Submitted by resignator (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:38:23 EDT (#)
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Submitted by Zoidberg (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:09:36 (#)
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The text is yours huh?
"Thou shalt not bear false witness."
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-15,GGLD:en&q=Anytime+religion+is+mentioned+within
go ahead and click the link everyone, and lets all revel in what a great constitutional scholar/original thinker/completely honest and following in Christ's teachings brianthetruthspeaker is.
Lying cunt. The text isnt yours. Google gets you every time
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Christians sure do have a funny way of lying to themselves and believing it.
Submitted by Kre8rix (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:35:22 EDT (#)
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The only people that need your prayers are people like you.
I'll type this using small words so you can keep up.
This
Pile
of
Shit
is
not
fact.
It
is
opinion.
You don't speak truth, you plagiarize propaganda.
Until you can actually come up with your own ideas and opinions, Shut the fuck up.
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:30:47 EDT (#)
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don't worry Brian, we all love you really.
after all, that's what the Bible tells us to do.
Submitted by resignator (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:29:43 EDT (#)
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I am so tired of christians making themselves out to be some persecuted minority. Oh, boo-fucking-hoo. You get much more talk time than any other religion in this country.
Take a look at Kansas and the creationists there. How would they feel if other religions got to teach their views in those schools as well?
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:27:16 EDT (#)
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hahahaha, I hadn't seen the big deliverance from Jesus at the end...hahahaha
good god, it must great living in such a simple world.
Submitted by Tom (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:26:02 EDT (#)
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No Comment
Submitted by ajanssen (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:24:01 EDT (#)
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This post was complete shit but Clemson just beat the Terps and Texas is getting ready to spank the Buckeyes so Im in a good mood. Take this 0 and blow it out your asshole.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:19:49 EDT (#)
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The law may fail to indict criminals sometimes, but at least they prosecute pedophiles, unlike the Church who harbors and protect them.
What do you make of that you repressed homo?
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:19:46 EDT (#)
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...and they've already got George Bush for that.
Submitted by rad1101 (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:18:48 EDT (#)
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go away again please.
you make the rest of us conservatives look so so bad.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:17:25 EDT (#)
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plus religion reigned for thousands of year and if you look at the record, it's not exactly pretty. you're attempt at enforcing your believes on others disgust me and you should be shot on sight.
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:15:42 EDT (#)
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I just watched that gif all the way through, and there are some disturbing homosexual overtones. clearly the state is anally raping the church, and then covers it in grey ejaculate, reducing the church to a lonely piss-stain in the corner. this kind of depraved material is sick and wrong, and I hope you are condemned to hell for all eternity for spreading this sodomy where it can be witnessed by THE CHILDREN.
sodomite.
Submitted by Caulaincourt (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:11:53 EDT (#)
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you say you don't hate anyone but you sure do sound like you think everyone's wrong and that you hold the truth.
you're a closed-minded stupid fuck who makes evolution weep.
Submitted by Brianthetruthspeaker (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:11:48 EDT (#)
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I said this
(I don't hate "normal" Islamism because its non-extant (the truth is out about radical Islamic fundamentalists). )
and this.
(] Islamists regard themselves as Muslims rather than Islamists, while moderate Muslims reject this notion.)
your saying this is the same?? (but Brian, you just said there was no such thing as a "moderate Muslim"?)
your words= moderate Muslim
My words= "normal" Islamism
Submitted by Sideburns (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:11:44 EDT (#)
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Faith
Arrogance
Good grief.
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:10:41 EDT (#)
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UNCHA-UNCHA-UNCHA-UNCHA-UNCHA-UNCHA
GOD....IS A DJ!
DUM DUM DUM...DUM-DUM DUM-DUM
WE COME 1 COME 1 COME 1 COME 1 COME....1
who would've thought faithless lyrics were more profound than a brianthetrurhspeaker post?
anyone who's read one.
Submitted by Zoidberg (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:09:36 EDT (#)
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The text is yours huh?
"Thou shalt not bear false witness."
http://www.google.com/search?sourceid=navclient&ie=UTF-8&rls=GGLD,GGLD:2004-15,GGLD:en&q=Anytime+religion+is+mentioned+within
go ahead and click the link everyone, and lets all revel in what a great constitutional scholar/original thinker/completely honest and following in Christ's teachings brianthetruthspeaker is.
Lying cunt. The text isnt yours. Google gets you every time
Submitted by tinactin (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:07:02 EDT (#)
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Oh, come on.
Submitted by downerSTAIN (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:06:34 EDT (#)
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"In religion, it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty Gods or no God."
-Thomas Jefferson
You pity agnostics? Why, because they've moved on from the notion that there's an invisible man in the sky watching us? Because they worry about things that are actually happening, not things that were written 2000+ years ago?
"I don't hate "normal" Islamism because its non-extant"
What? So, you see some radicals on the news, and think that there are no moderate Islamists left in the world? So, after I see Pat Robertson or John Hagee, can I assume that there are no moderate, well meaning Christians?
Maybe you should spend a little time outside of the church, in the real world.
Oh, and -2 for plagiarism. At least "informed leftists" can spew original bullshit.
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:05:19 EDT (#)
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but Brian, you just said there was no such thing as a "moderate Muslim"?
I'm confused!
does this mean you don't really speak the truth?
tell me it isn't so.
Submitted by Brianthetruthspeaker (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:02:45 EDT (#)
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Islamism refers to a set of political ideologies derived from conservative religious views of Muslim fundamentalism, which hold that Islam is not only a religion, but also a political system that governs the legal, economic and social imperatives of the state. Islamist movements seek to re-shape the state by implementing a conservative formulation of Sharia. [1] Islamists regard themselves as Muslims rather than Islamists, while moderate Muslims reject this notion.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islamism
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:02:29 EDT (#)
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so how often are your prayers answered?
Submitted by Brianthetruthspeaker (user info) at 2005-09-10 15:00:56 EDT (#)
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Zoidberg
I got the graphic from the web
the text is mine and constitutional law.
Submitted by TheGirlWithoutATitle (user info) at 2005-09-10 14:59:48 EDT (#)
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Islamism? Have another.
Submitted by MANICMOTHER (user info) at 2005-09-10 14:59:38 EDT (#)
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No one group is ever right.
Their beliefs blind them from perspectives other than that of their own doctrine.
There is never black and white, only shades of varying gray.
I pity you for your lack of understanding the human race.
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2005-09-10 14:59:02 EDT (#)
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"read what I wrote"??????
hold your horses Brian. I'm not surprised you "borrowed" the main body of this post.
in fact, it should really have been obvious from the fact that it was actually literate and even meaningful. unlike, for example your replies.
Submitted by TheGirlWithoutATitle (user info) at 2005-09-10 14:58:15 EDT (#)
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I do hate you because you're a typical Christian asshole that prays for people regardless of if they do not wish for you to. Here, I'll tell my local voodoo priestess to cast a spell on you, regardless of if you want her to or not. How's that?
Submitted by Brianthetruthspeaker (user info) at 2005-09-10 14:56:34 EDT (#)
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Oh im so sorry
I thought that you would be able to put together from my opening paragraph that
atheists
agnostics
Islamism
Satanists
Feel this way that (The informed left call religion "only for the stupid" that people of fath are in some way handicapped. )
and that after you read what I wrote you would tell me how YOU feel!
Submitted by Zoidberg (user info) at 2005-09-10 14:55:59 EDT (#)
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ha I especially like how the one website you do link to for that 3rd grade graphic also lists 4004 BC as the creation date.
http://www.seekfind.net/Amazing_Facts/History_Of_The_World.html
How can you stand such ignorance? Seriously, doesn't it make you gag just a little bit?
Submitted by Zoidberg (user info) at 2005-09-10 14:54:06 EDT (#)
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Oh wow, imagine that, plagiarized!!!
http://www.noapathy.org/tracts/mythofseparation.html
Doesnt the bible say something about "Thou shalt not steal"?
Typical hypocrite christian.
Submitted by zakalwe (user info) at 2005-09-10 14:51:45 EDT (#)
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so...what is "secular religion" again?
I don't pity you. I despise you.
choke on your own self-righteousness.
Submitted by Confuzitron (user info) at 2005-09-10 14:49:28 EDT (#)
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"What's you opinions?"
How do you mean?